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Belfry 35 Pikeville 21
#31
(09-21-2024, 02:15 AM)RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote:
(09-21-2024, 12:58 AM)jetpilot Wrote:
(09-21-2024, 12:28 AM)Belichick Wrote: Both these teams will likely be in hunt for a state championship. Both teams played hard. Pikeville dominated first half and should have been up 2 scores.  Coaching and flags cost them. That’s as nice as anyone can say it. Belfry dominated 2nd half. Special teams were a disaster for Pikeville. Looked like they never practice. Belfry killed them with the option in 2nd half on offense. They struggled to run between the tackles. The Belfry passing game was much ado about nothing. Pikeville should be passing and won’t. They did have several kids out with injury but that didn’t beat them. Pikeville may have had more penalty yardage than Belfry yards gained.

Agreed. Loved the intensity from the Panthers tonight. Look out Class A. Campbellsville is the only team that can knock them off and if Pikeville cleans up their issues it's a 4-peat.
Whatever Mr 27 th in the RPI. You guys are killing Paintsville’s RPI.
Why ya gotta bring Paintsville in to this for HAM?
Notre Dame Football…GO IRISH
#32
watchin the game back and cayden varney played a GREAT football game as well all around
#33
(09-20-2024, 11:29 PM)RAMDAD50 Wrote: I watched this one. This was like watching Assland play. The announcers cried every play wanting a flag throw on Belfry for something. I turned the volume down at one point so I did t have to listen to these grown men cry. On the flip side…..o was very surprised how Belfry acted on the field as time wound down. You would think that a program like Belfry’s would know how to act when they had the lead in a football game. It doesn’t get better next week for Pikeville! Good luck with Ironton
No Ironton is in two weeks   Next week Pikeville plays Harlan Co. at Harlan Co.
#34
(09-21-2024, 02:48 AM)Redneck Wrote:
(09-21-2024, 02:15 AM)RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote:
(09-21-2024, 12:58 AM)jetpilot Wrote:
(09-21-2024, 12:28 AM)Belichick Wrote: Both these teams will likely be in hunt for a state championship. Both teams played hard. Pikeville dominated first half and should have been up 2 scores.  Coaching and flags cost them. That’s as nice as anyone can say it. Belfry dominated 2nd half. Special teams were a disaster for Pikeville. Looked like they never practice. Belfry killed them with the option in 2nd half on offense. They struggled to run between the tackles. The Belfry passing game was much ado about nothing. Pikeville should be passing and won’t. They did have several kids out with injury but that didn’t beat them. Pikeville may have had more penalty yardage than Belfry yards gained.

Agreed. Loved the intensity from the Panthers tonight. Look out Class A. Campbellsville is the only team that can knock them off and if Pikeville cleans up their issues it's a 4-peat.
Whatever Mr 27 th in the RPI. You guys are killing Paintsville’s RPI.
Why ya gotta bring Paintsville in to this for HAM?
Because you are above the mountain putty tats in RPI. If they would just win a few games the tigers RPI would go up.

(09-21-2024, 08:19 AM)Grand Am Fan Wrote:
(09-20-2024, 11:29 PM)RAMDAD50 Wrote: I watched this one. This was like watching Assland play. The announcers cried every play wanting a flag throw on Belfry for something. I turned the volume down at one point so I did t have to listen to these grown men cry. On the flip side…..o was very surprised how Belfry acted on the field as time wound down. You would think that a program like Belfry’s would know how to act when they had the lead in a football game. It doesn’t get better next week for Pikeville! Good luck with Ironton
No Ironton is in two weeks   Next week Pikeville plays Harlan Co. at Harlan Co.
Doesn’t matter. they are gonna get majorly smacked. If the Ironton coach is true to his normal identity he will try to embarrass Pikeville in their own field. He’s a jackass
#35
(09-21-2024, 12:29 AM)jetpilot Wrote:
(09-20-2024, 11:59 PM)BCF4L Wrote: I understand having a tough schedule to prepare you for postseason but 1-4 can’t be good for morale. Not sure how that will affect them down the road.

Prestonsburg mindset 
Running it up on East Ridge is the way to to championships
Good luck against Floyd Central
Yea you’re absolutely right! Getting it handed to ya every Friday night is definitely the key to building momentum! Another wise post from JP!

We keep hearing “only Campbellsville can knock off Pikeville this year”. How are so many people in 1A looking clean over Hazard? Hazard definitely looks to have more than enough to be at the top spot of 1A.
#36
After losses last night by both Pikeville and Raceland in the KHSAA great RPI ranking they are now ranked #23 (Raceland) and #26 (Pikeville). lol

That should tell you all you need to know about how bad the RPI the KHSAA uses actually is!!
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#37
But Fairview just keeps winning so had all better be ware
#38
(09-21-2024, 02:34 PM)ArmChairHC Wrote: But Fairview just keeps winning so had all better be ware
And Raceland is killing the eagles RPI! If we could win a game Fairview would probably be #1
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#40
Anyone know why MTS hasn’t got this game up on its app yet? Looking to go back and watch this one.
#41
(09-20-2024, 11:29 PM)RAMDAD50 Wrote: I watched this one. This was like watching Assland play. The announcers cried every play wanting a flag throw on Belfry for something. I turned the volume down at one point so I did t have to listen to these grown men cry. On the flip side…..o was very surprised how Belfry acted on the field as time wound down. You would think that a program like Belfry’s would know how to act when they had the lead in a football game. It doesn’t get better next week for Pikeville! Good luck with Ironton
they play Harlan next week and then Ironton week after
#42
(09-21-2024, 03:30 PM)Bull got out! Wrote: New Account needs to check your private message before your post can be approved.

I'd say for good reason, might be a few not so proud moments on the tape from the Pikeville sidelines.....

(09-22-2024, 01:05 AM)bac2369 Wrote: Anyone know why MTS hasn’t got this game up on its app yet? Looking to go back and watch this one.

I'd say for good reason, might be a few not so proud moments on the tape from the Pikeville sidelines.....
#43
The game is posted on MTS. If only there were sideline and on field audio too. Not an excuse for any coaches behavior because they have to be an example for the kids to follow but some on both sides might be surprised by what their little darlings are saying during the game. So, be careful throwing stones from either side. Enjoy the competition and stop with the holier than thou stuff I’ve seen circulating. All involved on both sides need to do better.
#44
(09-22-2024, 10:29 PM)Belichick Wrote: The game is posted on MTS. If only there were sideline and on field audio too. Not an excuse for any coaches behavior because they have to be an example for the kids to follow but some on both sides might be surprised by what their little darlings are saying during the game. So, be careful throwing stones from either side. Enjoy the competition and stop with the holier than thou stuff I’ve seen circulating. All involved on both sides need to do better.
 
I didn't throw any stones, just shocked to see a coach act in such a manner. Kids also should do better, but I'm sure emotions were high in a game Pikeville hated to lose. But the better team won.
#45
What happened on the Pikeville sidelines?
#46
(09-22-2024, 11:47 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: What happened on the Pikeville sidelines?
Pikeville coach gave the bird to our players
#47
(09-22-2024, 11:12 PM)East KY All Stars Wrote:
(09-22-2024, 10:29 PM)Belichick Wrote: The game is posted on MTS. If only there were sideline and on field audio too. Not an excuse for any coaches behavior because they have to be an example for the kids to follow but some on both sides might be surprised by what their little darlings are saying during the game. So, be careful throwing stones from either side. Enjoy the competition and stop with the holier than thou stuff I’ve seen circulating. All involved on both sides need to do better.
 
I didn't throw any stones, just shocked to see a coach act in such a manner. Kids also should do better, but I'm sure emotions were high in a game Pikeville hated to lose. But the better team won.
I think Belfry is the better team this year but Pikeville outplayed them the majority of that game. Special teams and some play calls were not great for Pikeville. For a long period of time, Belfry had more yards gained from penalties on Pikeville than they actually had on offense. Both will have a chance to win a state title this year but they also have some things to clean up and Pikeville has to get healthy.
#48
(09-22-2024, 11:12 PM)East KY All Stars Wrote:
(09-22-2024, 10:29 PM)Belichick Wrote: The game is posted on MTS. If only there were sideline and on field audio too. Not an excuse for any coaches behavior because they have to be an example for the kids to follow but some on both sides might be surprised by what their little darlings are saying during the game. So, be careful throwing stones from either side. Enjoy the competition and stop with the holier than thou stuff I’ve seen circulating. All involved on both sides need to do better.
 
I didn't throw any stones, just shocked to see a coach act in such a manner. Kids also should do better, but I'm sure emotions were high in a game Pikeville hated to lose. But the better team won.

189
Rushing Yards
164
Rushing Yards Allowed
95
Passing Yards
42
Passing Yards Allowed


Pikeville more rushing yards and more passing yards. Anthony who rushed for 206 yds and 3 TDs against Belfry last year limited to 4 carries on offense due to injury. That and shooting themselves in the foot 10+ times. Pikeville cleans up all the mistakes and gets healthy I'll take them all night long.
#49
(09-23-2024, 01:14 AM)jetpilot Wrote:
(09-22-2024, 11:12 PM)East KY All Stars Wrote:
(09-22-2024, 10:29 PM)Belichick Wrote: The game is posted on MTS. If only there were sideline and on field audio too. Not an excuse for any coaches behavior because they have to be an example for the kids to follow but some on both sides might be surprised by what their little darlings are saying during the game. So, be careful throwing stones from either side. Enjoy the competition and stop with the holier than thou stuff I’ve seen circulating. All involved on both sides need to do better.
 
I didn't throw any stones, just shocked to see a coach act in such a manner. Kids also should do better, but I'm sure emotions were high in a game Pikeville hated to lose. But the better team won.

189
Rushing Yards
164
Rushing Yards Allowed
95
Passing Yards
42
Passing Yards Allowed


Pikeville more rushing yards and more passing yards. Anthony who rushed for 206 yds and 3 TDs against Belfry last year limited to 4 carries on offense due to injury. That and shooting themselves in the foot 10+ times. Pikeville cleans up all the mistakes and gets healthy I'll take them all night long.
I watched the smallest kid on the field put it on Pikeville. Special teams really matter.
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#50
I didn’t see anyone put it on someone in that game. Winning a rep isn’t dominating. The dominant line for Belfry really wasn’t so dominant Friday night. They had a new passing attack until they didn’t. Belfry won the game and that is what matters. But if you look at it, Pikeville’s offense and defense performed better. Offensive play calling for Pikeville, injuries, turnovers, and special teams won the game for Belfry. They had some good plays. The option hurt Pikeville when they had some guys out on defense and Belfry exploited that. That’s how it played out. I thought Belfry outcoached Pikeville by a comfortable margin Friday night. I would like to know the penalty yardage on both teams. I think time of possession second half is fairly lopsided.
#51
(09-23-2024, 08:14 AM)Belichick Wrote: I didn’t see anyone put it on someone in that game. Winning a rep isn’t dominating. The dominant line for Belfry really wasn’t so dominant Friday night. They had a new passing attack until they didn’t. Belfry won the game and that is what matters. But if you look at it, Pikeville’s offense and defense performed better. Offensive play calling for Pikeville, injuries, turnovers, and special teams won the game for Belfry. They had some good plays. The option hurt Pikeville when they had some guys out on defense and Belfry exploited that. That’s how it played out. I thought Belfry outcoached Pikeville by a comfortable margin Friday night. I would like to know the penalty yardage on both teams. I think time of possession second half is fairly lopsided.

Excuses, excuses, excuses!!
#52
Belfry started slow but belfry is the better team and wins 7!out of 10 times period.
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#53
(09-23-2024, 08:26 AM)Belfry_99 Wrote:
(09-23-2024, 08:14 AM)Belichick Wrote: I didn’t see anyone put it on someone in that game. Winning a rep isn’t dominating. The dominant line for Belfry really wasn’t so dominant Friday night. They had a new passing attack until they didn’t. Belfry won the game and that is what matters. But if you look at it, Pikeville’s offense and defense performed better. Offensive play calling for Pikeville, injuries, turnovers, and special teams won the game for Belfry. They had some good plays. The option hurt Pikeville when they had some guys out on defense and Belfry exploited that. That’s how it played out. I thought Belfry outcoached Pikeville by a comfortable margin Friday night. I would like to know the penalty yardage on both teams. I think time of possession second half is fairly lopsided.

Excuses, excuses, excuses!!
What was an excuse? I like both teams and have watched both all year. If you read other posts, I said I think Belfry is the better team this year and picked them to win. But, the game played out how I wrote. That isn’t excuses. That’s what happened. Look at the stats.  Stats don’t win ballgames but they do tell a story. Injuries and special teams are part of the game. Pikeville had 4 defensive starters on the sideline with injuries or cramping on a series. Belfry was right to take advantage of that. Belfry won. No excuses. Just how the game played out. If you watched the game and thought Belfry dominated, you watched something different than reality.
#54
(09-23-2024, 08:44 AM)Belichick Wrote:
(09-23-2024, 08:26 AM)Belfry_99 Wrote:
(09-23-2024, 08:14 AM)Belichick Wrote: I didn’t see anyone put it on someone in that game. Winning a rep isn’t dominating. The dominant line for Belfry really wasn’t so dominant Friday night. They had a new passing attack until they didn’t. Belfry won the game and that is what matters. But if you look at it, Pikeville’s offense and defense performed better. Offensive play calling for Pikeville, injuries, turnovers, and special teams won the game for Belfry. They had some good plays. The option hurt Pikeville when they had some guys out on defense and Belfry exploited that. That’s how it played out. I thought Belfry outcoached Pikeville by a comfortable margin Friday night. I would like to know the penalty yardage on both teams. I think time of possession second half is fairly lopsided.

Excuses, excuses, excuses!!
What was an excuse? I like both teams and have watched both all year. If you read other posts, I said I think Belfry is the better team this year and picked them to win. But, the game played out how I wrote. That isn’t excuses. That’s what happened. Look at the stats.  Stats don’t win ballgames but they do tell a story. Injuries and special teams are part of the game. Pikeville had 4 defensive starters on the sideline with injuries or cramping on a series. Belfry was right to take advantage of that. Belfry won. No excuses. Just how the game played out. If you watched the game and thought Belfry dominated, you watched something different than reality.
Belichick, you're right. If you just look at the rushing and passing stats posted on here, you would think Pikeville won. But, that punt return by "little" No. 7 was fun to watch. "It" (the punt return) was "put on" Pikeville. Those stats have to be taken into account also. Pikeville's skilled players looked big on TV. Belfry's skilled players looked small. Size won the battle, but bad snaps and punts (by Pikeville) and good punt and kick returns (by Belfry's little guys) helped Belfry win the war. Pikeville will win another state championship in 1A. It will be hard for Belfry to win another championship in 3A, but not impossible. Both teams need to improve.
#55
What allowed Belfry to have sustained success running the ball in the 2nd Half vs. the First Half?

To me that was the story of the game along with Special Teams.

Belfry had less than 50 total yards in the First Half and could sustain no success between the tackles, but in the 2nd Half Belfry feasted on Pikeville between the tackles and when Pikeville needed stops Belfry rode the fullback regularly for chunks of yardage.

Pikeville should still be the favorite in 1A but if there is a year they would be vulnerable I think this is the year. Obviously a fully healthy Anthony makes them immediately more dangerous (although Isaiah Stanley was far from chopped liver, he played a great game at RB and LB and I am not sure Anthony adds much to what Stanley did most of the game, but having a fresh set of legs doing that every down the entirety of the game is definitely a big plus).

Here is what I will critique about Pikeville:
- I have never seen them look that rough on Special Teams under Coach Mac. In year's past, Pikeville's Special Teams actually was a positive that helped them beat Belfry. Kicking game, kick return game, and kick coverage game all looked very young and very green.

- I think Pikeville's starting OLine and DLine are still pretty solid, but for the first time in a long time they looked like a really good small school line and not a really good line regardless of class. I was surprised at the level of penetration and pressure Belfry's front was able to generate.

I don't see the depth on Pikeville's OLine like they have had in the past.

IMHO, the line of scrimmage has been the spot Pikeville has utilized to take a stranglehold of Class 1A. I still think if they stay healthy they have enough horses to still win the LOS against all other 1A teams, but for the first time in several years I think Pikeville is an injury or two away at the wrong time from saying they enter a game with a "wash" in that department or having a "bad night" when the other team plays their best game.

It is simply worth noting because for the better part of the last five years if you asked me if Pikeville's starting defense would give up 14 points in a playoff game I would take the under every single time and be proven right.
#56
As far as who was the better team, tonight it was Belfry but I feel like this would go back and forth if they played multiple times. When the season started I assumed Pikeville would be the better team, then after watching Belfry and JC I thought Belfry would beat Pikeville. But all in all they looked like a good matchup and every game they play each other will be entertaining. Pikeville looked better out of the gate and was making long sustained drives on the ground. When Belfry had to start drives on their side of the field Pikeville usually held them and made them punt. Pikeville's special teams was not good. They didn't cover one punt good and Belfry runs it down to like the 5 yard line and that's a easy score. They had 2 different punts where they had bad snaps and the punter had to just grab the ball and kick it somewhere. I feel like Belfry started both of those drives around the Pikeville 20 yard line. I feel like Belfry returned a kick off pretty deep in Pikeville territory also but I could be wrong on that. But when you let a good team like Belfry start drives in the red zone it makes it near impossible on your defense. I think if Pikeville cleaned up there special teams play their defense makes enough stops to win. Pikeville looked good running the ball and on their first drive they marched straight down and scored and then second possession they threw 3 incomplete passes and had to punt. I didn't really understand that logic. Belfry players seemed to be taunting the Pikeville players at the end when it was pretty much in hand and I didn't care for that because for one you didn't dominate them by any means and Pikeville had won the last 5 meetings I think they said. I know some don't like all the streaming but I have to say it allows me to watch more football so I am a fan. Not sure what the environment was like at this game but Imagine both teams had a large fan section. It was a fun game to watch. Good luck to both teams moving forward.
#57
Just noticed Anthony not credited with a single tackle (since he wasn't out there) on D after being credited with 18 the week before at Raceland. Just as big or bigger than being limited to 4 carries on offense. Clean up the sloppiness and get everybody healthy and Pikeville will look like Pikeville again (4-peat).
#58
After watching this game in person and on replay, Pikeville has some serious issues

1) special teams were bad. I’d hate to be the coach in charge of that
2) offensive play calling wasn’t good with loads of time wasted at the end of the game. Almost like they quit.
3) penalties. Too many men on the field multiple times
4) qb struggles with anything down field. Our db was burnt multiple times and he couldn’t connect
5). Pass selection. Seems like an is locked on one receiver coming out of huddle. Threw into four or five man coverage.

Great win by our pirates but not too happy about some of the antics we displayed. Coach Haywood may be losing it. Teams of the past acted like we were supposed to win. I saw multiple occasions of our boys acting up at the end of the game. I know Pikeville wasn’t innocent but this game went to far. We should act like a winning program and when we beat little brother like we did act like we have some class. Yea I know I’ll catch some heat from the Pirate faithful but it is what it is.

And the coach who flipped the bird to the player shouldn’t have reacted to a kid. The refs let this one get out of control. Glad we came away injury free

(09-23-2024, 12:39 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Just noticed Anthony not credited with a single tackle (since he wasn't out there) on D after being credited with 18 the week before at Raceland. Just as big or bigger than being limited to 4 carries on offense. Clean up the sloppiness and get everybody healthy and Pikeville will look like Pikeville again (4-peat).
Anthony being out did hurt but that’s an excuse like us complaining the Isaac Dixon didn’t play years ago.   Both teams should just move on.   Tired of the antics from the fans.  Social media has made a joke of this rivalry

(09-23-2024, 10:47 AM)Jim Brown Fan Wrote:
(09-23-2024, 08:44 AM)Belichick Wrote:
(09-23-2024, 08:26 AM)Belfry_99 Wrote:
(09-23-2024, 08:14 AM)Belichick Wrote: I didn’t see anyone put it on someone in that game. Winning a rep isn’t dominating. The dominant line for Belfry really wasn’t so dominant Friday night. They had a new passing attack until they didn’t. Belfry won the game and that is what matters. But if you look at it, Pikeville’s offense and defense performed better. Offensive play calling for Pikeville, injuries, turnovers, and special teams won the game for Belfry. They had some good plays. The option hurt Pikeville when they had some guys out on defense and Belfry exploited that. That’s how it played out. I thought Belfry outcoached Pikeville by a comfortable margin Friday night. I would like to know the penalty yardage on both teams. I think time of possession second half is fairly lopsided.

Excuses, excuses, excuses!!
What was an excuse? I like both teams and have watched both all year. If you read other posts, I said I think Belfry is the better team this year and picked them to win. But, the game played out how I wrote. That isn’t excuses. That’s what happened. Look at the stats.  Stats don’t win ballgames but they do tell a story. Injuries and special teams are part of the game. Pikeville had 4 defensive starters on the sideline with injuries or cramping on a series. Belfry was right to take advantage of that. Belfry won. No excuses. Just how the game played out. If you watched the game and thought Belfry dominated, you watched something different than reality.
Belichick, you're right. If you just look at the rushing and passing stats posted on here, you would think Pikeville won. But, that punt return by "little" No. 7 was fun to watch. "It" (the punt return) was "put on" Pikeville. Those stats have to be taken into account also. Pikeville's skilled players looked big on TV. Belfry's skilled players looked small. Size won the battle, but bad snaps and punts (by Pikeville) and good punt and kick returns (by Belfry's little guys) helped Belfry win the war. Pikeville will win another state championship in 1A. It will be hard for Belfry to win another championship in 3A, but not impossible. Both teams need to improve.
Yes Clyde,   Both Caudills played well and aren’t forgotten. Two tough kids
#59
(09-23-2024, 12:39 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Just noticed Anthony not credited with a single tackle (since he wasn't out there) on D after being credited with 18 the week before at Raceland. Just as big or bigger than being limited to 4 carries on offense. Clean up the sloppiness and get everybody healthy and Pikeville will look like Pikeville again (4-peat).
Anthony played the entire game on defense. If he come out it wasn’t very much.
#60
(09-23-2024, 01:12 PM)HatfieldMccoy Wrote: After watching this game in person and on replay, Pikeville has some serious issues

1) special teams were bad.  I’d hate to be the coach in charge of that
2) offensive play calling wasn’t good with loads of time wasted at the end of the game.  Almost like they quit. 
3) penalties.  Too many men on the field multiple times
4) qb struggles with anything down field.  Our db was burnt multiple times and he couldn’t connect
5). Pass selection.  Seems like an is locked on one receiver coming out of huddle.  Threw into four or five man coverage. 

Great win by our pirates but not too happy about some of the antics we displayed.  Coach Haywood may be losing it.  Teams of the past acted like we were supposed to win.  I saw multiple occasions of our boys acting up at the end of the game.  I know Pikeville wasn’t innocent but this game went to far.  We should act like a winning program and when we beat little brother like we did act like we have some class.  Yea I know I’ll catch some heat from the Pirate faithful but it is what it is. 

And the coach who flipped the bird to the player shouldn’t have reacted to a kid.  The refs let this one get out of control.  Glad we came away injury free

(09-23-2024, 12:39 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Just noticed Anthony not credited with a single tackle (since he wasn't out there) on D after being credited with 18 the week before at Raceland. Just as big or bigger than being limited to 4 carries on offense. Clean up the sloppiness and get everybody healthy and Pikeville will look like Pikeville again (4-peat).
Anthony being out did hurt but that’s an excuse like us complaining the Isaac Dixon didn’t play years ago.   Both teams should just move on.   Tired of the antics from the fans.  Social media has made a joke of this rivalry

You make some good points but lol at "little brother"
Pikeville has as many or more kids on the roster nowadays and Belfry just got their first win since September of 2018. 
I don't think either is bigger I just think of Belfry as our country cousins.

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