02-10-2024, 06:46 AM
(02-09-2024, 04:20 PM)Belichick Wrote: Here’s some truth for you. There is a lot of garbage in this thread you shouldn’t trust. I’ll start with that. Nothing is decided. A great offer has been made that is financially enticing. That’s it. To say he wants the job or wants to be there is a stretch. He wants to be a head coach. He wants to be at Pikeville. There is no clarity when that may be available. That’s the only reason this is a remote possibility. Not being mean but would you want your kids to go to Pikeville or Prestonsburg? What opportunities are available at each place? There is a clear difference. That’s just honest. If it’s about money or he likes the challenge of building a program because that is what it will be, a rebuild, he will go to Prestonsburg and it will take some time. They would be immediately better and competitive but to win bigger games, meaningful deeper playoff games, it will take some time. Remember, LCA, Mayfield and Beechwood are in that class. Zero chance for a long time at a title and maybe never. If he is given any clue that he is the next head coach at Pikeville and that is relatively soon, even 3-5 years, he isn’t going anywhere. I do believe he has asked a few people about being on staff if he were to accept.
If I am Prestonsburg and he doesn’t accept, I have wasted a lot of time and now my next choice is going to know he wasn’t the pick of the litter. They will also have to overpay for someone they didn’t want and the excitement won’t be the same as it would be if Sullivan somehow accepted. If he doesn’t accept, huge letdown. It would be a suck the air out of the room kind of letdown because they truly think they are in a good position.
If Sullivan truly “wanted” to be there, he would have accepted already because the offer is good. I do think he is struggling with a decision. That is why the wait continues. Is Prestonsburg being leveraged? If some clarity becomes available in Pikeville, this would come to a close quickly and he would likely be staying put. I do believe Sullivan would likely bring some good coaches and possibly some talent with him from surrounding schools if he decided to leave and even Pikeville could take a hit. The rumors I have heard ranges from a big hit if some kids follow or could be no more than losing a great defensive coordinator. Those are simply rumors and would remain to be seen but the beat will go on for Pikeville. They are loaded for the next 2-3 years and have a younger group coming along who are strong as well. This is really interesting though if you are a high school football fan in the area.
This is a great post, one of the best I've ever seen on here. But, if any player would leave Pikeville which is going for a 4-peat with more championships coming to go to Prestonsburg and try to beat Betsy Layne, Floyd Central and Shelby Valley, I must be living in some alternative universe. Also, just being realistic here, Prestonsburg is not beating the 3 headed monster of Beechwood, Mayfield and LCA to win a state championship in Sullivan's lifetime or any other.
I'm going to stop short of saying just take the job or not already.
02-10-2024, 01:32 PM
I know times and circumstances have change, but I think Pburg can win a state championship against Beechwood, Mayfield, or Lexington Christian. It will take some time, but IMO it can be done. They were one holding penalty away from beating Mayfield in the state championship game back in 1993. I could also see why Sullivan may be interested. Who knows how much longer he is going to have to wait for the Pikeville head coach position. He could possibly take over at Pburg now and build the program up the way he sees fit. The major draw back is, as I have mentioned before, the FCSS and what appears to be the toxic environment currently at the school which would make the build all the more difficult. Also, I played against both schools back in the day. When I think of Pikeville, I think of class. When I think of Pburg, I think of classless. Pikeville is the classiest program I ever played against. Prestonsburg is one of two of the most classless programs I ever played against along with MC Napier. That might be why those two teams had a bench clearing brawl that lasted several minutes back in the day.
02-10-2024, 03:08 PM
The possibilities at Prestonsburg are there. Pburg has been to state twice. 1993 & 2001. If they had today’s classification they would most certainly have at least 3+ rings. The 2020 Paintsville team that won state had 15 Prestonsburg kids. Pikeville has also benefited from having a few Prestonsburg kids.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
02-10-2024, 03:22 PM
(02-10-2024, 03:08 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: The possibilities at Prestonsburg are there. Pburg has been to state twice. 1993 & 2001. If they had today’s classification they would most certainly have at least 3+ rings. The 2020 Paintsville team that won state had 15 Prestonsburg kids. Pikeville has also benefited from having a few Prestonsburg kids.This reminds me of the Chirico hire at Paintsville. They were awful when he was hired. Like winning 1-2 games a year bad and he comes in and they immediately started winning. And within 3 years I believe they were a top 3 team in 1A and even beating Pikeville. He was at Pburg for many years before becoming a head coach at Paintsville.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
02-10-2024, 03:43 PM
(02-10-2024, 03:08 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: The possibilities at Prestonsburg are there. Pburg has been to state twice. 1993 & 2001. If they had today’s classification they would most certainly have at least 3+ rings. The 2020 Paintsville team that won state had 15 Prestonsburg kids. Pikeville has also benefited from having a few Prestonsburg kids.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
Put down the pipe and step away
02-10-2024, 04:00 PM
(02-10-2024, 03:43 PM)jetpilot Wrote:Come have a hit with me, Jet.(02-10-2024, 03:08 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: The possibilities at Prestonsburg are there. Pburg has been to state twice. 1993 & 2001. If they had today’s classification they would most certainly have at least 3+ rings. The 2020 Paintsville team that won state had 15 Prestonsburg kids. Pikeville has also benefited from having a few Prestonsburg kids.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
Put down the pipe and step away
02-10-2024, 04:01 PM
(02-10-2024, 03:22 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:Chirico hire at Paintsville is a perfect example of what hiring the right person can do for a program and school.(02-10-2024, 03:08 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: The possibilities at Prestonsburg are there. Pburg has been to state twice. 1993 & 2001. If they had today’s classification they would most certainly have at least 3+ rings. The 2020 Paintsville team that won state had 15 Prestonsburg kids. Pikeville has also benefited from having a few Prestonsburg kids.This reminds me of the Chirico hire at Paintsville. They were awful when he was hired. Like winning 1-2 games a year bad and he comes in and they immediately started winning. And within 3 years I believe they were a top 3 team in 1A and even beating Pikeville. He was at Pburg for many years before becoming a head coach at Paintsville.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
02-10-2024, 04:12 PM
Chirco had a good base of kids and got 15 from Prestonsburg like you said and as soon as they were gone he left. Where is Prestonsburg goin get those 15 kids? Also there JV team last year was very weak and Paul knows that because he help coach that game.
02-10-2024, 04:33 PM
Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.
02-10-2024, 05:25 PM
(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
02-10-2024, 05:59 PM
(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:Please. Total red herring. Pikeville is selfish because they have one of the top coaching staffs in the state and they are dodging a Class they aren’t in or supposed to be in won’t fly. Doesn’t even pass the smell test. I get it this hire is huge but no…(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
02-10-2024, 07:14 PM
(02-10-2024, 06:16 PM)jetpilot Wrote:Pikeville has every right to be selfish in wanting to keep their staff intact. I’d feel the same way.(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:Please. Total red herring. Pikeville is selfish because they have one of the top coaching staffs in the state and they are dodging a Class they aren’t in or supposed to be in won’t fly. Doesn’t even pass the smell test. I get it this hire is huge but no…(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
It’s Sullivan’s time. He can’t wait around forever, especially when there will be others who will want that job when Mac is ready to hang it up.
I respect you, Jet. I respect Pikeville and always will. Pikeville will forever be fine as long as they’re in class A with or without Sullivan.
02-10-2024, 07:17 PM
Black cat Mac is leaving in 2-3 yrs and everyone at Pikeville knows it. Paul will get the job if he stays. If he leaves I’d say his chances are about 10% to come back.
02-10-2024, 07:58 PM
(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:Ok. But you want their coach because they’re scared to move up? Have you looked at Pikeville’s schedule and who they play? Look at next year’s schedule or the last several years. Pikeville beat Beechwood for a title in 2015 and save a Jackson Hensley injury in the title game would have beat them again the next time they faced off. Play LCA yearly and waxed them 2 years ago. By the way, the 1A teams they play would smoke Prestonsburg especially Campbellsville and Raceland from last year. Heck, Middlesboro would have embarrassed them. I was being nice with twisted. I think it’s a mistake for him to go there. Maybe another situation but that’s not it. I have no inside info but I presume he’s next in line for head coach at Pikeville and he would want to go there??? If he does, it’s the money.(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
02-10-2024, 08:10 PM
(02-10-2024, 03:08 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: The possibilities at Prestonsburg are there. Pburg has been to state twice. 1993 & 2001. If they had today’s classification they would most certainly have at least 3+ rings. The 2020 Paintsville team that won state had 15 Prestonsburg kids. Pikeville has also benefited from having a few Prestonsburg kids.
Prestonsburg just needs the right man to come in and build this thing back. We believe Paul Sullivan is that man. He’s been an assistant long enough at Pikeville. It’s selfish of that program to continue to expect a man that is that talented of a coach continue to be an assistant. He has a great opportunity to do his own thing now and do it his way. He deserves that. He will get the support. Trust me on that.
(02-10-2024, 07:58 PM)Belichick Wrote:(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:Ok. But you want their coach because they’re scared to move up? Have you looked at Pikeville’s schedule and who they play? Look at next year’s schedule or the last several years. Pikeville beat Beechwood for a title in 2015 and save a Jackson Hensley injury in the title game would have beat them again the next time they faced off. Play LCA yearly and waxed them 2 years ago. By the way, the 1A teams they play would smoke Prestonsburg especially Campbellsville and Raceland from last year. Heck, Middlesboro would have embarrassed them. I was being nice with twisted. I think it’s a mistake for him to go there. Maybe another situation but that’s not it. I have no inside info but I presume he’s next in line for head coach at Pikeville and he would want to go there??? If he does, it’s the money.(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
I think it would be a huge mistake as well.
02-10-2024, 09:06 PM
(02-10-2024, 07:58 PM)Belichick Wrote:I never said they were scared to move up. I know Pikeville can compete in 2A, but it’s MUCH tougher competition. Pikeville is rarely touched in 1A. You know it. Credit their staff, admin, players, etc. They have it going on, like I’ve said time and time again.(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:Ok. But you want their coach because they’re scared to move up? Have you looked at Pikeville’s schedule and who they play? Look at next year’s schedule or the last several years. Pikeville beat Beechwood for a title in 2015 and save a Jackson Hensley injury in the title game would have beat them again the next time they faced off. Play LCA yearly and waxed them 2 years ago. By the way, the 1A teams they play would smoke Prestonsburg especially Campbellsville and Raceland from last year. Heck, Middlesboro would have embarrassed them. I was being nice with twisted. I think it’s a mistake for him to go there. Maybe another situation but that’s not it. I have no inside info but I presume he’s next in line for head coach at Pikeville and he would want to go there??? If he does, it’s the money.(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
Prestonsburg wants Sullivan because they want to bring in someone from that culture in hopes they can restore what’s been lost. Just like when Pikeville rehired McNamee and just like when Paintsville hired Chirico.
I get many Pikeville folks (not all) want to look down on us poor Prestonsburg folks and our pitiful school and football program, but Pikeville was at a low just 12-13 years ago. Went through 3 coaches and got waxed by Prestonsburg a few times. But it’s twisted to believe that maybe Prestonsburg can be restored back to its winning ways? Please.
02-10-2024, 09:28 PM
Black cat Alum I agree it can be done at any school but where are the kids gonna come from??? No coach can do it without the kids and there isn’t enough kids combined in all the schools right now in Floyd county to do it with. I watched plenty of games this year of all the county teams and the talent just isnt there right now.
02-10-2024, 09:35 PM
Everyone keeps saying if he does take the job it’ll be for the money….as someone who’s been around for a long while.. there is no money in Floyd County Athletics or Floyd County period for that matter…I don’t know who they will hire and honestly don’t care, I just hate that those kids are the ones being hurt by the entire situation..seems like folks counted their chickens before they hatched
#Go Jags
#Go Jags
02-10-2024, 09:48 PM
I just heard not long ago that Sullivan turned it down. It came down to his children.
02-10-2024, 10:01 PM
Yes, I can confirm he has turned the Prestonsburg offer down.
This thread shall continue…
This thread shall continue…
02-10-2024, 10:05 PM
(02-10-2024, 10:01 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: Yes, I can confirm he has turned the Prestonsburg offer down.So what was the real offer he had on the table? Hard decision for him but don’t think he could make a wrong one. No knowledge but assume he knows Mcnamee will be gone by the time his kids are in high school and could be Pikeville’s HC by then. Anyone know how old his kids are? I’m sure they already had friends and relationships they didn’t want to leave and that played a big factor
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02-10-2024, 10:15 PM
Thats a shame and I hate it and I understand completely doing what is best for your kids. That said, and I mean this in a "tough love" kinda way... I hope the folks at Pburg realize that their drama and sense of entitlement is not helping anyone. Its only hurting the program and the kids.. We all know that this negative mojo surrounding the school is affecting the search for qualified applicants... I went to school there and played sports there so I think I have earned the right to say that..
02-10-2024, 10:15 PM
Pirate his son is in 6th grade and that group just won the state 6th grade championship this fall.
02-10-2024, 10:16 PM
March 15
02-10-2024, 10:27 PM
(02-10-2024, 10:05 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:Prestonsburg offered him everything they had. He visited and interviewed Wednesday. Told Pburg he would give them an answer in a few days. Here we are.(02-10-2024, 10:01 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: Yes, I can confirm he has turned the Prestonsburg offer down.So what was the real offer he had on the table? Hard decision for him but don’t think he could make a wrong one. No knowledge but assume he knows Mcnamee will be gone by the time his kids are in high school and could be Pikeville’s HC by then. Anyone know how old his kids are? I’m sure they already had friends and relationships they didn’t want to leave and that played a big factor
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Family comes first though. Can’t blame him. Pikeville is great also. They have a fine man running that defense.
I honestly don’t know what’s next. I’m gonna assume they’re going to conduct interviews now and make some more calls to see who might be interested. Maybe even make a call to Jarrell?
Hate it for our boys, hopefully the right decision is made.
02-10-2024, 10:48 PM
My prediction (completely just my opinion with no inside scoop whatsoever) is that they’ll offer it to Newsome now that Sullivan said no. I think Newsome has been the safe, fallback pick through this whole process.
He will do OK, but it’ll be a lot of the same thing we’ve had for the last 6 years.
I hate it for those kids. They have a talented team coming back next year that will struggle.
I imagine you’ll see some of those players leave in the next couple of years.
He will do OK, but it’ll be a lot of the same thing we’ve had for the last 6 years.
I hate it for those kids. They have a talented team coming back next year that will struggle.
I imagine you’ll see some of those players leave in the next couple of years.
02-10-2024, 11:13 PM
(02-10-2024, 10:48 PM)Red and Black Wrote: My prediction (completely just my opinion with no inside scoop whatsoever) is that they’ll offer it to Newsome now that Sullivan said no. I think Newsome has been the safe, fallback pick through this whole process.Welp, where do we go from here?
He will do OK, but it’ll be a lot of the same thing we’ve had for the last 6 years.
I hate it for those kids. They have a talented team coming back next year that will struggle.
I imagine you’ll see some of those players leave in the next couple of years.
I do think players will start leaving now, I know a few were waiting on the Sullivan decision.
I know they better make a decision and I heard from a few people from Pburg that Kevin Woods was making a push to get that job. Like I said before, he would be a great hire in my opinion but I do believe they would go with Newsome but get the same results.
this is a total mess, who cares who it is now…get someone in there. Hell call the national guard, call someone.
02-10-2024, 11:14 PM
(02-10-2024, 09:06 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:No, I think they can be and should be better but there was a ton of misinformation here. It was a great offer. And people who say it wasn’t about money don’t know the offer and how money is funneled to get who you want. I think he wanted to stay at Pikeville all along and wants to be the coach there someday. He wanted his kids to be there. My guess is some clarity came along.(02-10-2024, 07:58 PM)Belichick Wrote:I never said they were scared to move up. I know Pikeville can compete in 2A, but it’s MUCH tougher competition. Pikeville is rarely touched in 1A. You know it. Credit their staff, admin, players, etc. They have it going on, like I’ve said time and time again.(02-10-2024, 05:25 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:Ok. But you want their coach because they’re scared to move up? Have you looked at Pikeville’s schedule and who they play? Look at next year’s schedule or the last several years. Pikeville beat Beechwood for a title in 2015 and save a Jackson Hensley injury in the title game would have beat them again the next time they faced off. Play LCA yearly and waxed them 2 years ago. By the way, the 1A teams they play would smoke Prestonsburg especially Campbellsville and Raceland from last year. Heck, Middlesboro would have embarrassed them. I was being nice with twisted. I think it’s a mistake for him to go there. Maybe another situation but that’s not it. I have no inside info but I presume he’s next in line for head coach at Pikeville and he would want to go there??? If he does, it’s the money.(02-10-2024, 04:33 PM)Belichick Wrote: Pikeville still did well against Paintsville during their “run” with Chirico. They wouldn’t have that last ring had Pikeville not laid a major egg in the playoffs against a Hazard team they bludgeoned on their home field earlier that year. He got out of there at a good time. He saw the train on the tracks. Pburg isn’t winning a title anytime soon and maybe ever. I think Sullivan is a fantastic coach and those Pikeville players like to play for him but it will take more than him. It takes good players who work hard year in and year out. Programs don’t happen overnight. Years. They could get the best players in Floyd County and not be able to compete with the top of 2A currently. That’s what he would be facing. Don’t forget the other juggernaut down the road Johnson Central. They have a new school and facilities on the way that will likely be fantastic. They are going to get some players. It comes down to money or what his future is at Pikeville. He is going to do what is best for his family and he should. Don’t get it twisted.Nothing is twisted.
It would take a VERY special team to win state currently in 2A. That’s why Pikeville has no interest in ever moving up.
Prestonsburg wants Sullivan because they want to bring in someone from that culture in hopes they can restore what’s been lost. Just like when Pikeville rehired McNamee and just like when Paintsville hired Chirico.
I get many Pikeville folks (not all) want to look down on us poor Prestonsburg folks and our pitiful school and football program, but Pikeville was at a low just 12-13 years ago. Went through 3 coaches and got waxed by Prestonsburg a few times. But it’s twisted to believe that maybe Prestonsburg can be restored back to its winning ways? Please.
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