[TheRealThing]

As long as you misrepresent facts, I'll call you out on it, the same as I would anybody else. You just happen to do a lot more misrepresenting of facts than most on here.

Well, I'm glad you said MOST because you're hard to clean after in that department. And FTR, I never lie. The truth speaks for itself, YOU my friend are the only guy on here that has ever called me a liar or in any way insinuated I have misrepresented a thing. The one and only time I got close to it, was when I didn't research the deal with estate taxes very well. That one I got wrong but, I still posted the article I used to make the point.

What I've saw is some things out of a couple of different departments, and a republican "witch hunt" over Benghazi. I wouldn't say he's been the most productive President, but I give him slack on that because republican in Washington block every move he tries. Except for the IRS deal, a lot of the other stuff is "mole hills". He is as mad about the IRS as you are, and the appropriate actions are being taken.

BENGHAZI
Again, self delusion is requisite to being a good liberal. The record of distortions is clear. Even if we didn't have General Officers in separate branches of the armed services and the testimony of Gregory Hicks before the Senate, we still have the presidential denials before the UN on the 25th of Sept. 2012. Soon, it will have been a full year of the characteristic stonewalling on the matter.

IRS
:lame: Yeah that's why "the Internal Revenue Service official in charge of the tax-exempt organizations at the time when the unit targeted tea party groups now runs the IRS office responsible for the health care legislation.

Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...re-office/

[TheRealVille]

Well, I'm glad you said MOST because you're hard to clean after in that department. And FTR, I never lie. The truth speaks for itself, YOU my friend are the only guy on here that has ever called me a liar or in any way insinuated I have misrepresented a thing. The one and only time I got close to it, was when I didn't research the deal with estate taxes very well. That one I got wrong but, I still posted the article I used to make the point.








BENGHAZI
Again, self delusion is requisite to being a good liberal. The record of distortions is clear. Even if we didn't have General Officers in separate branches of the armed services and the testimony of Gregory Hicks before the Senate, we still have the presidential denials before the UN on the 25th of Sept. 2012. Soon, it will have been a full year of the characteristic stonewalling on the matter.

IRS
:lame: Yeah that's why "the Internal Revenue Service official in charge of the tax-exempt organizations at the time when the unit targeted tea party groups now runs the IRS office responsible for the health care legislation.

Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/201...re-office/

You've lied twice in just the last couple of days. Diplomat deaths, and a red/blue chart that you said represented that a majority of Americans don't favor gay marriage.

[TheRealVille]

^Now, if you want to back up and say you didn't mean it the way it came out, I'll do the man thing, and apologize.

[TheRealThing]

You've lied twice in just the last couple of days. Diplomat deaths, and a red/blue chart that you said represented that a majority of Americans don't favor gay marriage.

I said the majority of Americans oppose gay marriage. And I posted the map which shows where the freeloader liberals mostly hang out in the blue areas and the red areas show where those that still work and pay taxes mostly live. Everybody that voted democrat doesn't approve of gay marriage I know for sure. Many church going folks voted for Obama, evidently thinking you can vote for whoever you want and not be held accountable. So, Obama got a lot of votes from people who oppose gay marriage and abortion. It's ridiculous, but it happens.

This whole thing is just a smoke screen your blowing anyway. You're running from God. Having gone to church in your early years you now seek to justify your rebellion by judging people who are saved in an attempt to prove they're no better than you. That's demonstrably true but, it means nothing. Jesus died on the cross for all men but, most men will reject that simple truth choosing instead to believe a lie and following the way that "seems right unto them." Proverbs 12:15 (KJV)
15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

You can claim I'm a liar with your dying breath and it would mean less than nothing. You will stand before Him and give an account of YOUR life, not mine.

[TheRealThing]

^Now, if you want to back up and say you didn't mean it the way it came out, I'll do the man thing, and apologize.

I'll not join with you to help you delude yourself. Believe what you want cause we both know that you will continue to call everything that contradicts the liberal spew a lie.

[TheRealVille]

I said the majority of Americans oppose gay marriage. And I posted the map which shows where the freeloader liberals mostly hang out in the blue areas and the red areas show where those that still work and pay taxes mostly live. Everybody that voted democrat doesn't approve of gay marriage I know for sure. Many church going folks voted for Obama, evidently thinking you can vote for whoever you want and not be held accountable. So, Obama got a lot of votes from people who oppose gay marriage and abortion. It's ridiculous, but it happens.

This whole thing is just a smoke screen your blowing anyway. You're running from God. Having gone to church in your early years you now seek to justify your rebellion by judging people who are saved in an attempt to prove they're no better than you. That's demonstrably true but, it means nothing. Jesus died on the cross for all men but, most men will reject that simple truth choosing instead to believe a lie and following the way that "seems right unto them." Proverbs 12:15 (KJV)
15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

You can claim I'm a liar with your dying breath and it would mean less than nothing. You will stand before Him and give an account of YOUR life, not mine.

You got any proof of that, since all we have to go by is polls that say otherwise? Surely if you say it, you have concrete proof? Did you pull that knowledge out of thin air? Or, did you come up with that knowledge from polling people in KENTUCKY? By the same token you mentioned above, about democrats against it, there were republicans that voted for Romney that favor gay marriage. I am just so curious as to where your enlightenment on the issue of Americans, for/or against, comes from.

Did you know that Louis L'Amour was a man that wrote books also? Some pretty good books, I might add, but still fiction.

[TheRealVille]

Spin it anyway you want, but you guys that say "the majority of Americans are against same sex marriage" are delusional. Your being against it doesn't negate how America is going on the subject.


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Dark Blue - Recent polls or ballot votes that show a majority of that state's population supports same-sex marriage.
Light Blue - Recent polls that show less than a majority of that state's population opposes same-sex marriage.
Red - Recent polls or ballot votes that show a majority of that state's population opposes same-sex marriage.

Polls in 2012 [edit]
A November 26–29 Gallup poll found that 53% of Americans support same-sex marriage while 46% do not.[16]
A November 16–19 CBS News poll found that 51% of Americans support same-sex marriage while 40% do not.[17]
A November 7–11 ABC News/Washington Post poll found 51% of respondents support same-sex marriage while 47% are opposed.[18]
A June 6 CNN/ORC International poll showed that a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage being legalized at 54%, while 42% are opposed.[19]
A May 22 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll showed that 54% of Americans would support a law in their state making same-sex marriage legal, with 40% opposed.[20]
A May 17–20 ABC News/Washington Post poll showed that 53% believe same-sex marriage should be legal, with only 39% opposed, a low point for opposition in any national poll so far.[21][22]
A May 10 USA Today/Gallup Poll, taken one day after Barack Obama became the first sitting President to express support for same-sex marriage,[23] showed 51% of Americans agreed with the President's endorsement, while 45% disagreed.[24] A May 8 Gallup Poll showed plurality support for same-sex marriage nationwide, with 50% in favor and 48% opposed.[25]
An April Pew Research Center poll showed support for same-sex marriage at 48%, while opposition fell to 44%.[26]
A March 7–10 ABC News/Washington Post poll found 52% of adults thought it should be legal for same-sex couples to get married, while 42% disagreed and 5% were unsure.[27] A March survey by the Public Religion Research Institute found 52% of Americans supported allowing same-sex couples to marry, while 44% opposed.[28]
A February 29 – March 3 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found 49% of adults supported allowing same-sex couples to marry, while 40% opposed.[29

Polls in 2011 [edit]
Public support for same-sex marriage continued to grow in 2011. In February and March, a Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey found about as many adults favored (45%) as opposed (46%) allowing same-sex couples to marry legally, compared to a 2009 Pew Research survey that found just 37% backed same-sex marriage while 54% opposed.[30] In March and April, polls by Gallup,[5] ABC News/Washington Post,[6] and CNN/Opinion Research[7] all showed that a majority of Americans approved of same-sex marriage.
As had been the case since 1996, there remained a wide partisan division. In March, Pew reported that 57% of Democrats favored legal recognition for same-sex marriage, and 51% of independents agreed, but only 23% of Republicans agreed.[30] An April CNN/Opinion Research Poll showed majority support including 64% of Democrats and 55% of independents, but only 27% of Republicans.[7]
In March 2011, Democracy Corps conducted a survey of 1,000 likely 2012 election voters in 50 congressional districts considered political battlegrounds. It asked respondents to rate their feelings on the same-sex marriage issue on a 0–100 scale, with 100 being "very warm" or favorable feelings, and 0 being "very cold" or unfavorable feelings. 42% were on the "cool" or unfavorable side, and 35% were on the "warm" or favorable side.[31]
A May 2011 Gallup Poll also showed majority support for same-sex marriage, 53% in favor to 45% opposed. Gallup measured a 9-point increase in support, from 44% to 53%, indicating that support increased faster than in any previous year.[5]
Polls in 2010 [edit]
In 2010, national polls began to show majority support for same-sex marriage.
An August Associated Press/National Constitution Center poll found 52% agreed that the federal government should give legal recognition to marriages between couples of the same sex, an increase from 46% in 2009. 46% disagreed, compared to 53% in 2009.[4]
An August CNN/Opinion Research Poll showed that 49% of respondents thought gays and lesbians do have a constitutional right to get married and have their marriage recognized by law as valid, and 52% thought gays and lesbians should have that right.[32]
Earlier polls in February and May found opinion divided within the margin of error, but with a consistent trend of increasing support and decreasing opposition compared to prior years.[33][34] One August poll found majority opposition,[35][36] and a November exit poll of 17,504 voters by CNN during the 2010 midterm elections found 53% opposition with 41% support.[37]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opin...ted_States
http://www.google.com/search?client=safa...8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.google.com/search?client=safa...8&oe=UTF-8

[WideMiddle03]

Spin it anyway you want, but you guys that say "the majority of Americans are against same sex marriage" are delusional. Your being against it doesn't negate how America is going on the subject.


[Image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...te.svg.png]
Dark Blue - Recent polls or ballot votes that show a majority of that state's population supports same-sex marriage.
Light Blue - Recent polls that show less than a majority of that state's population opposes same-sex marriage.
Red - Recent polls or ballot votes that show a majority of that state's population opposes same-sex marriage.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opin...ted_States
http://www.google.com/search?client=safa...8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.google.com/search?client=safa...8&oe=UTF-8

do you read this stuff b4 u post
the PEOPLE of california voted 52% 4 prop 8 da

wikipedia :biglmao:

[WideMiddle03]

What I've saw is some things out of a couple of different departments, and a republican "witch hunt" over Benghazi. I wouldn't say he's been the most productive President, but I give him slack on that because republican in Washington block every move he tries. Except for the IRS deal, a lot of the other stuff is "mole hills". He is as mad about the IRS as you are, and the appropriate actions are being taken.

then what about reagan and clinton
had both house and senate w/ opposite party during most of their terms
yet things still got accomplished
y should obama be exempt
especially when he doesnt have nearly as many opponents as reagan and clinton did

[TheRealVille]

then what about reagan and clinton
had both house and senate w/ opposite party during most of their terms
yet things still got accomplished
y should obama be exempt
especially when he doesnt have nearly as many opponents as reagan and clinton did

You tell me. He can't force people to work with him, and not block him at every move.

[WideMiddle03]

You tell me. He can't force people to work with him, and not block him at every move.

dodge the ? :biglmao:
u didnt read my post i can tell
hooked on phonics
read the parts about reagan and clinton

[TheRealVille]

dodge the ? :biglmao:
u didnt read my post i can tell
hooked on phonics
read the parts about reagan and clinton

The answer is there. Personally, I think the republicans in Washington can't stand having a black man in the big seat, but that's JMO. It is "the angry, middle aged, white mans" club.

[TheRealVille]

do you read this stuff b4 u post
the PEOPLE of california voted 52% 4 prop 8 da

wikipedia :biglmao:

And, they say they regret it, and hope the court overturns it. 79% have changed their view in the last 2 years.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/03...verturned/
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollPrin...33b3f9&d=0

As the Supreme Court hears oral arguments today on California’s Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage, a new SurveyUSA poll shows that 67 percent of Californians believe same-sex couples deserve the legal benefits of marriage. Only 30 percent believe those benefits should be limited to “a man and a woman.”
Conservatives have argued that if the Court rules against Prop 8, it will somehow invalidate the will of the voters who supported the ballot initiative. Not only do voters not have the power to undermine the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution, but it’s clear that the anti-gay animus that motivated Prop 8′s passage no longer represents the majority of California values.
Further proof of this today comes from 25 California mayors, who have urged the Supreme Court to rule Prop 8 unconstitutional. Thousands also rallied Monday night in San Francisco showing their support for marriage equality. Here’s a video of some scenes from the march and rally:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/26...osition-8/

[WideMiddle03]

And, they say they regret it, and hope the court overturns it. 79% have changed their view in the last 2 years.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/03...verturned/
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollPrin...33b3f9&d=0
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/26...osition-8/

more liberal bs from liberal bs sources
are you that naive or just unaware

[WideMiddle03]

The answer is there. Personally, I think the republicans in Washington can't stand having a black man in the big seat, but that's JMO. It is "the angry, middle aged, white mans" club.

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[TheRealVille]

^ Any media is liberal that doesn't agree with republicans.

[TheRealVille]

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollPrin...33b3f9&d=0

[WideMiddle03]

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