[RunItUpTheGut]

Anybody that pays taxes and has a job is thinking the same thing Romney said.
I couldnt agree more that the freeloaders of society are mostly democrats, and theres nothing that repubs can do to get these votes.

End welfare, let em die out, make people be responsible for themselves, and we'll get out of this debt.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

Romney told the truth. But, alas, the truth is rarely politically correct.

Most on welfare only work up a sweat while procreating. Thus, they apparently sweat quite often. They certainly have plenty of time to produce those new "government checks". Kardashian and his philosophy encourage this outcome. And, if you think we who actually work and pay income taxes are hurting now, just wait and see what he has in store for the next four years.

[SKINNYPIG]

Romney may have made a mistake when he spoke the truth and was politically incorrect. Most people (especially libs) can't handle/understand truth. If this statement loses votes or the election for Romney, we don't stand a chance anyway.

[WideRight05]

It'll blow over. It is the truth, and it CAN'T be any worse than "you didn't build that," "the private sector is doing fine," etc.

[TheRealThing]

It'll blow over. It is the truth, and it CAN'T be any worse than "you didn't build that," "the private sector is doing fine," etc.

When you look at the text of Romney's remarks all he's really talking about are those on the government dole. That doesn't mean the upright folks that have worked their whole lives and are drawing government pensions and social security. I don't know a soul who even remotely feels this is a type of welfare. Folks who worked their whole lives looked forward to these government payouts from the days of their youth. I earned my social security and my conscience is quite clear on the matter, thank you very much.

Everybody knows the dems are engaging in a vote buying scheme. Using the tax dollars of solid Americans to buy the votes needed to keep themselves in office. Government handouts for votes in perpetuity. We have 47 million folks permanently on food stamps. Permanently on everything from housing, utilities, cell phones, medical, you name it. No, Romney is just facing reality, albeit with some measure of angst. The folks the dems have been brainwashing and spoon feeding for generations will likely never vote their conscience, all they care about is their monthly checks and food stamps. Patriotism, country, honor and integrity are the attributes of those that work. They can afford an opionion.

They're calling this whole deal 'tape gate'. Obama has been caught on tape in 1998 affirming his notions of redistribution of wealth. Which of course, he now calls paying your fair share. Code for forced taxation at burdensome and unfairly high levels so that government may then (according to Obama) "pool resources, and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution"

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-red...ney-2012-9

There is so much bad stuff out there on Obama to concern any thinking citizen, I really don't know why he is within ten points of Romney in the polls. Leave the liberal religion out of it, if our country is under threat all the argument is moot anyway.

[More Cowbell]

Romney told the truth. But, alas, the truth is rarely politically correct.

Most on welfare only work up a sweat while procreating. Thus, they apparently sweat quite often. They certainly have plenty of time to produce those new "government checks". Kardashian and his philosophy encourage this outcome. And, if you think we who actually work and pay income taxes are hurting now, just wait and see what he has in store for the next four years.

:worthy:

Dude, that's one of the best lines I've read on here in some time. Kudos.

[WideMiddle03]

romney blew it on that one he will drop five or more percent in the polls just plain stupid and people actually expect this guy to be our president if he can't control his mouth

[tvtimeout]

Anybody that pays taxes and has a job is thinking the same thing Romney said.
I couldnt agree more that the freeloaders of society are mostly democrats, and theres nothing that repubs can do to get these votes.End welfare, let em die out, make people be responsible for themselves, and we'll get out of this debt.

You live in Whitley Co. How many free loaders are there? ( I know I used to live there) Are they Republican or Democrat in that county?

Your logic is flawed when it comes to local counties. McCreary Co is in the same boat. By the way did you know McCreary Co is one of the top 50 poorest counties in the nation?

Most Republicans will claim Christianity as their bases for faith. Is that a christian attitude?

Interesting tidbit... don't get me wrong freeloaders bother me, but exactly what is a freeloader?

[tvtimeout]

It'll blow over. It is the truth, and it CAN'T be any worse than "you didn't build that," "the private sector is doing fine," etc.

The winner for the quote taken mostly out of context is.... WideRight05 has it right!

[tvtimeout]

When you look at the text of Romney's remarks all he's really talking about are those on the government dole. That doesn't mean the upright folks that have worked their whole lives and are drawing government pensions and social security. I don't know a soul who even remotely feels this is a type of welfare. Folks who worked their whole lives looked forward to these government payouts from the days of their youth. I earned my social security and my conscience is quite clear on the matter, thank you very much.

Everybody knows the dems are engaging in a vote buying scheme. Using the tax dollars of solid Americans to buy the votes needed to keep themselves in office. Government handouts for votes in perpetuity. We have 47 million folks permanently on food stamps. Permanently on everything from housing, utilities, cell phones, medical, you name it. No, Romney is just facing reality, albeit with some measure of angst. The folks the dems have been brainwashing and spoon feeding for generations will likely never vote their conscience, all they care about is their monthly checks and food stamps. Patriotism, country, honor and integrity are the attributes of those that work. They can afford an opionion.

They're calling this whole deal 'tape gate'. Obama has been caught on tape in 1998 affirming his notions of redistribution of wealth. Which of course, he now calls paying your fair share. Code for forced taxation at burdensome and unfairly high levels so that government may then (according to Obama) "pool resources, and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution"

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-red...ney-2012-9

There is so much bad stuff out there on Obama to concern any thinking citizen, I really don't know why he is within ten points of Romney in the polls. Leave the liberal religion out of it, if our country is under threat all the argument is moot anyway.

Republicans never buy votes...what the heck? The military industrial complex doesn't come to mind does it. Funny thing is Bush spent us out of a surplus but the Republicans were fine, Obama does it, and the world is ending... so sad but true.

[Joker]

I teach a business class at a fairly large college in Kentucky. Today, I asked my students to identify Christopher Stevens, the ambassador murdered in Libya. Not one student could identify the ambassador- even when extra credit was offered.

These students are symbolic of the great majority of people. They are ignorant and they have no interest in current events- and they vote. These parasites will reelect Obama.

By the way, every student was present today which is unheard of. When I mentioned attendance to the class, I was informed that they were there because today is the day that their excess student aid money is credited to their individual accounts. In other words, the aid more than covered their college costs so the balance is given to them to be used for whatever suits their fancy. Now there is another example of the waste of your tax dollars.

I'm glad you were not one of my PROFESSORS' calling students ignorant and parasites. Way to get them involved keep putting them down.

[TheRealThing]

Republicans never buy votes...what the heck? The military industrial complex doesn't come to mind does it. Funny thing is Bush spent us out of a surplus but the Republicans were fine, Obama does it, and the world is ending... so sad but true.

For an elementary school teacher, and a cutting edge renewable energy inventor/pioneer, who owns two seperate businesses you have a decided short fall when it comes to understanding finance. Under George W on Nov 15, 2007 America's gnp was 14.4 trillion and our national debt was 9 trillion. Which means we could demonstrate that our nation at that time, had a little over 5 trillion dollars worth of assets and treasure more than we owed in the form of our national debt, got it? Conversely, your boy Obama's numbers on Nov 15, 2011 went like this, the national debt was 14.7 trillion and we owed 15.3 trillion. Which means that for the first time in the history of this great land we found ourselves owing more than we were worth. Let me simplify that again for you. Under George W. we were worth 5 trillion more than we owed and under Obama we owe over a trillion more than wer're worth. And of course, that upside down financial picture will only get worse under Obama's leadership and policy debacles. 6.4 trillion worse, actually under a second Obama term.

Put another way, even a person sitting on top of a career in education, renewable energy investments and patents, and the owner of two companies couldn't get a loan from the bank if he owed more than he was worth.

Bush spent us out of a surplus? Here's a list of the loans Billy Boy made to make himself look like we had a surplus; how Clinton managed to claim a surplus was that while the general operating budgets ran deficits, Clinton borrowed from numerous off budget funds, to make the on budget fund, a surplus. Clinton ran a budget deficit every year of his 8 year presidency.

For example, in 2000, Clinton claimed a $230B surplus, but Clinton borrowed
$152.3B from Social Security
$30.9B from Civil Service Retirement Fund
$18.5B from Federal Supplementary Medical insurance Trust Fund
$15.0B from Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund
$9.0B from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund
$8.2B from Military Retirement Fund
$3.8B from Transportation Trust Funds
$1.8B from Employee Life Insurance & Retirement fund
$7.0B from others

Total borrowed from off budget funds $246.5B, meaning that his $230B surplus is actually a $16.5B deficit.
($246.5B borrowed - $230B claimed surplus = $16.5B actual deficit).

And no, republicans don't buy votes and your military industrial complex argument is a moot topic, not to mention the fact it's so passe it's moldy, in the face of redistribution of wealth, socialism and social justice.

[vector]

When you look at the text of Romney's remarks all he's really talking about are those on the government dole. That doesn't mean the upright folks that have worked their whole lives and are drawing government pensions and social security. I don't know a soul who even remotely feels this is a type of welfare. Folks who worked their whole lives looked forward to these government payouts from the days of their youth. I earned my social security and my conscience is quite clear on the matter, thank you very much.

Everybody knows the dems are engaging in a vote buying scheme. Using the tax dollars of solid Americans to buy the votes needed to keep themselves in office. Government handouts for votes in perpetuity. We have 47 million folks permanently on food stamps. Permanently on everything from housing, utilities, cell phones, medical, you name it. No, Romney is just facing reality, albeit with some measure of angst. The folks the dems have been brainwashing and spoon feeding for generations will likely never vote their conscience, all they care about is their monthly checks and food stamps. Patriotism, country, honor and integrity are the attributes of those that work. They can afford an opionion.

They're calling this whole deal 'tape gate'. Obama has been caught on tape in 1998 affirming his notions of redistribution of wealth. Which of course, he now calls paying your fair share. Code for forced taxation at burdensome and unfairly high levels so that government may then (according to Obama) "pool resources, and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution"

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-red...ney-2012-9

There is so much bad stuff out there on Obama to concern any thinking citizen, I really don't know why he is within ten points of Romney in the polls. Leave the liberal religion out of it, if our country is under threat all the argument is moot anyway.

what part of 47% you do not understand?

[TheRealThing]

what part of 47% you do not understand?

Romney will win, what part of that do you not understand? Do you pay income taxes?

[vector]

Romney will win, what part of that do you not understand? Do you pay income taxes?

yell last year about 28000 fed taxs how about you?

[TheRealThing]

yell last year about 28000 fed taxs how about you?

A little sensitive aren't we? I'm not about to post on the web what my taxes are or were. Suffice to say, I pay a boatload.

Bob Beckel is on TV right now, extolling to the high heavens about how Romney has turned his back of 47% of America. It's a ridiculous argument, put forth by desperate and concerned liberal dems. You might not want to hear this but, a lot of dems are scared to death of your boy and well, should they be. I can tell you all right now that ex-service types don't take offense to Romney's statement. Neither does anybody else, even though dems are hoping they will. Folks that work and qualify for tax breaks don't care and I can assure you that the ones who are on welfare couldn't possibly care less.

All Romney was saying is that people who depend on the government for their substance are considered safe votes for the dems. Heck, they said that at the DNC, LOL. I know you guys are hoping against hope that Romney will get hit by that golden BB and go down in flames. It ain't going to happen, so just calm down. This thing's going to go down to the end, one way or the other. Conservatives and thinking folks of all stripe couldn't be talked into voting for Obama for any reason, much less the near invisible baloney you guys have come up with so far. nicker:

Now, if you catch him cutting a side deal on national security with a Russian president, or failing to take action to protect Americans overseas in spite of repeated warnings, then you'll have something. :lame:

[Bob Seger]

what part of 47% you do not understand?

What part of the questions that I asked you last week do you not understand?


Am I assuming that you are not going to answer them?:popcorn:

[Bob Seger]

A little sensitive aren't we? I'm not about to post on the web what my taxes are or were. Suffice to say, I pay a boatload.

Bob Beckel is on TV right now, extolling to the high heavens about how Romney has turned his back of 47% of America. It's a ridiculous argument, put forth by desperate and concerned liberal dems. You might not want to hear this but, a lot of dems are scared to death of your boy and well, should they be. I can tell you all right now that ex-service types don't take offense to Romney's statement. Neither does anybody else, even though dems are hoping they will. Folks that work and qualify for tax breaks don't care and I can assure you that the ones who are on welfare couldn't possibly care less.

All Romney was saying is that people who depend on the government for their substance are considered safe votes for the dems. Heck, they said that at the DNC, LOL. I know you guys are hoping against hope that Romney will get hit by that golden BB and go down in flames. It ain't going to happen, so just calm down. This thing's going to go down to the end, one way or the other. Conservatives and thinking folks of all stripe couldn't be talked into voting for Obama for any reason, much less the near invisible baloney you guys have come up with so far. nicker:

Now, if you catch him cutting a side deal on national security with a Russian president, or failing to take action to protect Americans overseas in spite of repeated warnings, then you'll have something. :lame:

Ah, sometimes he gets that way TRT.:biggrin: This is the way he operates.

When you flat get him nailed down to right , he just flat out refuses to answer or acknowledge anything. Ah yeah, ole vector , our resident piece of work.nicker:

[WideRight05]

The winner for the quote taken mostly out of context is.... WideRight05 has it right!

What are you on? Did you not hear the quote? I suggest you look it up on youtube.

[TheRealVille]

Electoral Map


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...e_map.html

[TheRealThing]

The only map I'm going to get all het up over is coming on Nov 6th

[vector]

The only map I'm going to get all het up over is coming on Nov 6th

karl rowe :worthy:

[vector]

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[TheRealVille]

The only map I'm going to get all het up over is coming on Nov 6th

Karl Rove nicker:

[TheRealThing]

Karl Rove

Vector, at least Karl Rove can tell you what the national deficit is at present. Last night on David Letterman, one of Obama's notoriously soft venues, your pres said he didn't know what the deficit is. Letterman threw out 10 trillion, which of course was the debt when George W left office. Anybody with a brain knows Obama is keenly aware of the debt, and that it rolled past 16 trillion during the DNC this past month. As I said, the debt is over 16 trillion now, and we are literally within months of facing the grim reaper because of this astronomic debt total. Some economists are saying we will begin to suffer within 6 months to be exact.

All Obama and liberal dems care about is getting him reelected though. If you get your wish and amature hour is extended for 4 more years, you won't need to worry about ever paying $28,000 in federal taxes again. The coal industry will be all but shut down, and you will be at the house, thanks to the sky is falling delirium environmentalists suffer from. If Obama and his liberal friends succeed this November, you can expect to have every facet of your life regulated. From how much electricity your house is allowed to use, how much natural gas, how much water, including the length of your shower in the morning. Does voting democrat really mean that much to you guys?

[RunItUpTheGut]

You live in Whitley Co. How many free loaders are there? ( I know I used to live there) Are they Republican or Democrat in that county?

Your logic is flawed when it comes to local counties. McCreary Co is in the same boat. By the way did you know McCreary Co is one of the top 50 poorest counties in the nation?

Most Republicans will claim Christianity as their bases for faith. Is that a christian attitude?

Interesting tidbit... don't get me wrong freeloaders bother me, but exactly what is a freeloader?

First off, yes i do live in Whitley County.
Secondly, i stand behind food stamp rejects everyday at the local store here by my house.
I dont know if there Repubs or Dems, and ive never admitted to being one or the other either, although my views mostly side with repubs. I find it amazing that people healthy, and young have decided to rely on someone else to take care of them. What happens when we end up having everyone get that attitude? Then theres no taxes to pay for these lazy asses. JMO....

I dont talk much about religion on here. Just as an athiest has his rights, i also have mine and my rights are to not talk about what church i attend or what i believe. I attend church about half of the time that i should, however, it does not persuade my political beliefs one way or another...

I know nothing of Mccreary County other than ive been there a few times. IMO, the biggest problem with Mccreary Co. is it's leaders. They have brought nothing to those towns in Pine Knot and Whitley City, and theres nothing there. I was surprised to see an Arbys. I dont know if there elected leaders are Repubs or Dems, but whoever it is is failing, and party affiliation has nothing to do with the fact that there are no jobs over there.

I dont get off by slamming repubs or dems, because IMO, there all career politicans just trying to get there agendas across. Until we limit terms to congress members like we do our Pres, things will not change.
I just look at our recent history and can see that Obama has failed miserably, and is doing nothing for the part of the country for where we live, other than trying to shut out biggest industry down. Romney may be worse, he may be better, but ive seen enough of Obama to know id like to try something new.

As far as the election goes, IF Romney can capture Florida, Ohio, and Virginia, he wins. Simple as that. If he loses one of them, he has to run the table on the rest including missouri, iowa, and wisconsin.
The polls are ignorant to look at and irrelevant until after the debates, which is something Romney better work on.

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
Oh BTW, a freeloader, by my definition, is someone who is able to work, yet insist on living off of food stamps, or has kids every year for bigger government checks. I believe that it the clearest answer you can have.

If i was president, you'd have to have a job in order to have a kid. Spay and Neutering of Adults would be legal nicker:

[TheRealThing]

^
Oh BTW, a freeloader, by my definition, is someone who is able to work, yet insist on living off of food stamps, or has kids every year for bigger government checks. I believe that it the clearest answer you can have.

If i was president, you'd have to have a job in order to have a kid. Spay and Neutering of Adults would be legal nicker:

Both posts appreciated! Just to hit on the freeloader thing. These people really don't think it's a bad thing to get food stamps. To them, everybody's doing it and it's part of life. I really think that most of these kind of people who even bother to vote at all do vote democrat but, their interest is just a glancing blow. Somebody told them that dems are the ones that keep the goodies coming, and that is literally as deep as they get into it. From a political standpoint, well, they have no political standpoint.

I know some folks that won't work. You'll see the 'rent to own' truck backed up to their abode a lot. Big screens and PS 3's or XBox is their whole life. Other than their girl friend and the resultant progeny, LOL. Drink of choice? Mountain Dew. Diet? McDonald's and junk food. Outlook on life? IDK.

To say these folks are shallow is somewhat of an understatement. They will not work for any extended time. They'll get a job almost to prove there isn't a job they can't be fired from. Until we shut off the entiltlements, there will be no change, except the next generation will be even worse. Bleeding hearts don't buy into the reality. To them, everybody is a potential Steve Jobs. We need a leader who understands giving folks free stuff isn't the answer, it's the problem. Believe me, Obama will never latch onto that one.

[tvtimeout]

No one commenting on the military industrial complex, or corporate wel-fare, very interesting.

Now for a few other thoughts...
Whitley Co, also where I was born is proud republicans and so is McCreary Co. In fact the school that I attended in high school got all of its money from federal monies. I would argue that we have one of the prettiest campuses in Kentucky. Most of my teachers were paid by Title I money, a federal program, we didn't have much of a tax base, even though our county is huge.

I say all of that to point out not all government is bad. Could you imagine what would happen if we didn't have that money to go to our school?

I am not saying all military is bad either, but I would rather spend my tax monies at home on people than across the sea rebuilding countries, keeping up military bases and etc.

Now if we could magically take away all food stamps, where would people work in my former county? What would the coal miner that just got laid off do? Do you believe that you would get to 100% employment rate? Let the rest die is the answer for some of you.

Would you think that would cause unrest in the U.S.? Therefore, the powers that we give the government in exchange for rest, protecton of rights would have been violated, therefore, revolution. I guess for some that is what they want.

I agree with the term limit idea on both state and federal public service officals.