[kywldcat01]

Pretty sure Jon Hood's team was WELL below average.

Hood was the best ALL AROUND PLAYER in the state last year in that senior class and it wasn't even close. He was a 6''7 wing that could play anywhere on the floor. He averaged 29 ppg, 13 rpg, 3 apg, and 3 bpg as a senior.

18 double doubles out of 22 games and it wasn't like his Madisonville North Hopkins team were playing a cupcake schedule. MNH played in the two biggest tournaments in Kentucky last year, King of the Bluegrass and the Lexcath Tourney. They also played regular season games against Christian Co, South Laurel, and Centennial, TN.

Hood won the award because he proved himself through the exposure he received from a tough schedule.

[rojas]

Since King Kelly Coleman won the first Mr. Basketball award in 1956, NO PRIVATE SCHOOL has ever had a winner of Mr. Basketball. I think this fact shows how much head coaches think of private schools!

1962 Mike Silliman, St. Xavier

[BlackcatAlum]

Hood was the best ALL AROUND PLAYER in the state last year in that senior class and it wasn't even close. He was a 6''7 wing that could play anywhere on the floor. He averaged 29 ppg, 13 rpg, 3 apg, and 3 bpg as a senior.

18 double doubles out of 22 games and it wasn't like his Madisonville North Hopkins team were playing a cupcake schedule. MNH played in the two biggest tournaments in Kentucky last year, King of the Bluegrass and the Lexcath Tourney. They also played regular season games against Christian Co, South Laurel, and Centennial, TN.

Hood won the award because he proved himself through the exposure he received from a tough schedule.

They also played in the Marshall County Hoopfest, which is well known throughout the country.

[trufan]

Hood was the best ALL AROUND PLAYER in the state last year in that senior class and it wasn't even close. He was a 6''7 wing that could play anywhere on the floor. He averaged 29 ppg, 13 rpg, 3 apg, and 3 bpg as a senior.

18 double doubles out of 22 games and it wasn't like his Madisonville North Hopkins team were playing a cupcake schedule. MNH played in the two biggest tournaments in Kentucky last year, King of the Bluegrass and the Lexcath Tourney. They also played regular season games against Christian Co, South Laurel, and Centennial, TN.

Hood won the award because he proved himself through the exposure he received from a tough schedule.

You keep harping on the importance of playing BIG tournaments in the state of Kentucky and then downing teams for playing in tournaments outside of the state that contain major talent from across a wider area than this state. I think your credentials are drastically dropping in my book.

[mountainguy]

Justice is a good player, him going to UofL even as a walk-on is a great thing for a mountain kid since UK will not be taking any walk-ons under cal. Point is Justice is the best in the Mountains maybe not by as quite a margin as some say, but he is the best. Is he the best in the state? Its hard to say without seeing him go against "better" competition nightly...

Well, he can't play nightly against "better" competetion, being in the 15th region. You have to remember this is high school basketball, they can't drive to the northen part of the state 2-3 times a week to play basketball. The kid has to compete againt what is in the 15th region. He proved himself last year in the state tournament againt elliot county, having 25 of 69 points, 4 assists, and one steal. The kid is an amazing ball player, but he cant do it all himself. He doesn't get any rest time on the bench, and still comes up wtih great numbers.
And as for the CC game the other night, anyone who watched knows that elisha was double-teamed almost the entire game, and kept on blowing by the defense to get the lay-up or get the ball to the open man. I know you all strongly disagree, but I dont think hickey showed me anything all that impressive. Yes, he shot the 3 ball on key, and yes he is incredibly fast, but his ball control is kind of wild, and he didnt impress me with his leaping ability. It is also obvious that EJ is physically stronger.
I have to say, CC did play great as a team, but I dont think hickey was everything that people made him out to be. Given valley's unusual low FG %, and the fact that 2 starters were not 100%, I think that Valley could outplay this team on most any night. Just IMO, no pun intended toward hickey or CC. I do also think that valley's weak schedule has made them somewhat 'lazy' if you will, not watching the court and taking precautions that you have to with higher caliber schools

[uhavenoidea]

Well, he can't play nightly against "better" competetion, being in the 15th region. You have to remember this is high school basketball, they can't drive to the northen part of the state 2-3 times a week to play basketball. The kid has to compete againt what is in the 15th region. He proved himself last year in the state tournament againt elliot county, having 25 of 69 points, 4 assists, and one steal. The kid is an amazing ball player, but he cant do it all himself. He doesn't get any rest time on the bench, and still comes up wtih great numbers.
And as for the CC game the other night, anyone who watched knows that elisha was double-teamed almost the entire game, and kept on blowing by the defense to get the lay-up or get the ball to the open man. I know you all strongly disagree, but I dont think hickey showed me anything all that impressive. Yes, he shot the 3 ball on key, and yes he is incredibly fast, but his ball control is kind of wild, and he didnt impress me with his leaping ability. It is also obvious that EJ is physically stronger.
I have to say, CC did play great as a team, but I dont think hickey was everything that people made him out to be. Given valley's unusual low FG %, and the fact that 2 starters were not 100%, I think that Valley could outplay this team on most any night. Just IMO, no pun intended toward hickey or CC. I do also think that valley's weak schedule has made them somewhat 'lazy' if you will, not watching the court and taking precautions that you have to with higher caliber schools

Justice is top notch.

But, he was something like 9/28 shooting that game.

CC is 1-0 against Valley (@Valley), who had previously won 50+ straight at home. You could also say Wilson from CC wasn't 100% yet.

Fact is, Valley still had a chance to tie and/or win. But, Justice couldn't connect on some big time FT's, which you expect big time players to make especially at home.

Once, again Valley is top 10 in state and Justice is a top level player in the state.

Justice is Top 10 in Mr. Basketball consideration, which for a mountain boy is great.

Congrats.

[uhavenoidea]

You keep harping on the importance of playing BIG tournaments in the state of Kentucky and then downing teams for playing in tournaments outside of the state that contain major talent from across a wider area than this state. I think your credentials are drastically dropping in my book.

Fact is, If someone dont see you, but once maybe twice, how can they vote for you?

The more exposure you get state wide the better.

Josh Sewell has to be the frontrunner for MR. Basketball. MVP in the 3 biggest tournaments in the state.

[kywldcat01]

You keep harping on the importance of playing BIG tournaments in the state of Kentucky and then downing teams for playing in tournaments outside of the state that contain major talent from across a wider area than this state. I think your credentials are drastically dropping in my book.

And how does your performance in an out of state tournament where NO VOTERS see you help you in Mr. Basketball consideration?

And I never said it was important to play in the big tournaments, but you can't just stay in your own region and win Mr. Basketball. Why do you think the top teams usually play everywhere around the state?

You obviously don't understand what kind of exposure you need or the factors that go in to winning the Mr. Basketball award. Voters could care less how you do against talent from other states because in the end you aren't beating those players or teams for state titles.

[PC_You_Know]

And how does your performance in an out of state tournament where NO VOTERS see you help you in Mr. Basketball consideration?

And I never said it was important to play in the big tournaments, but you can't just stay in your own region and win Mr. Basketball. Why do you think the top teams usually play everywhere around the state?

You obviously don't understand what kind of exposure you need or the factors that go in to winning the Mr. Basketball award. Voters could care less how you do against talent from other states because in the end you aren't beating those players or teams for state titles.

Ever think SV isn't a selfish team and Booher isn't just trying to get Elisha all this amazing exposure and garner votes for Mr. Basketball? Maybe he wants his boys to have a good time, go to Florida and hang out on the beach between games, maybe that's something some of the boys on the team wouldn't get to do had it not been for being on the ball team.

[uhavenoidea]

Ever think SV isn't a selfish team and Booher isn't just trying to get Elisha all this amazing exposure and garner votes for Mr. Basketball? Maybe he wants his boys to have a good time, go to Florida and hang out on the beach between games, maybe that's something some of the boys on the team wouldn't get to do had it not been for being on the ball team.

He didn't mean SV was a selfish team I'm sure. All he meant was in order to get respect throughout the state for your team/Mr. Basketball Candidate is to play in the big tournaments (AKA The Big 3).

Your right, most of the those kids wouldn't get to go to a beach in their life probably. But, it has nothing to do with SV being in the higher eshlon in-state tournaments and gaining recognition for themselves and Justice.

Just think of, what could it have done for Valley to play in one or 2 of those tourneys and faired well in doing so. Maybe even pulling out a title and Justice an MVP?

[inspiron]

How about whoever goes to the University of Kentucky gets Mr. Basketball. If Cal sees no one worthy then they will give it to who should of went to Kentucky. lol Usually works like that IMO.

[trufan]

And how does your performance in an out of state tournament where NO VOTERS see you help you in Mr. Basketball consideration?

And I never said it was important to play in the big tournaments, but you can't just stay in your own region and win Mr. Basketball. Why do you think the top teams usually play everywhere around the state?

You obviously don't understand what kind of exposure you need or the factors that go in to winning the Mr. Basketball award. Voters could care less how you do against talent from other states because in the end you aren't beating those players or teams for state titles.

I understand perfectly what it takes to win Mr. Basketball in the state of Kentucky, I played with a Mr. Basketball, Todd May from Virgie, who have you played with or against? Justice gets plenty of exposure in the All A and he will in the state tournament.

[trufan]

Just to throw out a few stats for Elisha Justice through 17 games:


20. 5 points per game
4.1 rebounds per game
7.3 assists per game
4.2 steals per game

As of 1-26, Justice has 472 steals, the state record is 499, he needs 28 steals to break the state record.

[dortonite]

Just to throw out a few stats for Elisha Justice through 17 games:


20. 5 points per game
4.1 rebounds per game
7.3 assists per game
4.2 steals per game

As of 1-26, Justice has 472 steals, the state record is 499, he needs 28 steals to break the state record.

Thanks for the steals information on Justice. It also should be a stat that Elisha Justice has separated himself from all of the competition for Mr.Basketball and this recent comparing Hickey and Justice. Just curious, how many steals does Hickey have in his career? Before someone says steals aren't important, they usually result in fast break points and can decide a close game. Also, playing with Scott May had to have been one heck of an experience and will stay with you for a lifetime. Could you possible keep the steal totals going in these post game comments, steal info is not usually given, only the scoring totals?

[mama cat]

This young man has a 4.0 GPA, has a solid Christian background, will represent EKY basketball and the State of KY well, and also has pretty good numbers to back up his being considered Mr. Basketball. I am saddened to see him being constantly degraded and berated. Win this award or lose, he is my MR.BASKETBALL.[/QUOTE]

Excellent post! I totally agree! Elisha is one of the most precious young men you could ever hope to meet! In my heart he will always be Mr. Basketball, win or lose! This is a young man that shows up to practice an hour early and stays late to improve himself. This is a young man that loves God and others! He is always kind and loving! He would go out of his way to help anyone. He loves and respects his teammates and coaches and tries to help them all that he can. If you knew Elisha personally you couldn't help but fall in love with him. He is definetly one of God's special angels upon this earth! I guess that is why the Valley fans are so sensitive when we hear anyone talk in a negative way about him. It is just very hurtful and hard to hear about someone you love and respect so much! I would hope that all of the other candidates would have fans that feel the same way about them. I would never try to point out their weaknesses or say anything negative about them. These are just kids and I wish them all the best of luck!
Go Valley! (The above description of Elisha pretty much describes the whole valley team, they are all precious young men, we are very blessed to have them!)

[BlackcatAlum]

Sure didn't take this thread long to become an Elisha Justice thread.

I can finally see why everyone outside of Pike County is tired of seeing his name on this board.

[TrinitySID]

A letter to the editor from this morning's Louisville Courier-Journal

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2...osh+Sewell

January 26, 2010

Reader Letter | Impressed by Trinity star Josh Sewell

I have loved the game of basketball my entire life, and the life lessons one can learn from this great game are too numerous to list. Being a basketball junkie, I have always paid more attention to the subtle things about the game and those who play and coach it. There is nothing more pure than high school ball, and I was at the St Xavier-Trinity game Friday night and left Freedom Hall with many thoughts.

From time to time, we have the good fortune to watch something so pure in the game that it just makes one forget about anything negative we see in our overhyped sports world. Unfortunately, the press, fans, coaches and players tend to focus on the negative and surreal, and along that journey we miss things that are special. I watched a young man who made me proud to have been in that gym Friday night. On numerous occasions this young man showed class, poise, grace, toughness and joy — and he also happened to be the game's big star.

My point here is simple. Men and women who participate in athletics are looked up to by a significant percentage of our youths. They are role models no matter what Charles Barkley says, and their actions are copied no matter what Ron Artest thinks, and the way they act and treat people affect lives no matter what Rick Pitino and John Calipari believe.

I watched Trinity's Josh Sewell embrace an opposing player before the game who accidentally backed into him at half-court, pick up an opposing player whom he had knocked down on a charge, try to calm down and reason with an opposing player who had an altercation with one of his teammates, express his joy to his student body when he put an exclamation point on his team's victory and keep his cool the entire night when our best player consistently shadowed him all over the court doing a great job minimizing his effect at times. He did this with a smile and the steely eye of a talented competitor while leading his teammates. Not once did I see him do anything outside the thought process of playing to “honor the game.”

I have known Josh for five years, have seen him on several occasions, but by no means have I been close to him. On each occasion Josh has come up, extended his hand, had nice words to say with a smile. When I saw him at a high school summer tourney this year at Hanover, I congratulated him on his commitment to Miami of Ohio and he embraced me and said, “Mr. Raque, I will not play in the NBA most likely, and I am blessed with this opportunity to get a great education at a great school.”

I have seen all of the high-ranked players in this year's loaded senior class. No player has lifted his team higher and played better than Josh Sewell. I hope our coaches honor him with our highest award, Mr. Basketball. He deserves it at this point and would do our state very proud as our basketball ambassador no matter how many points he may score. The thousands of youths that saw that game Friday night and will watch it on TV are positively influenced by young men like Josh Sewell.

RICK RAQUE

Louisville 40213

[kywldcat01]

Ever think SV isn't a selfish team and Booher isn't just trying to get Elisha all this amazing exposure and garner votes for Mr. Basketball? Maybe he wants his boys to have a good time, go to Florida and hang out on the beach between games, maybe that's something some of the boys on the team wouldn't get to do had it not been for being on the ball team.

And it's posts like this why people criticize SV and their players at times. Not once did I ever mention SV or EJ in my post and you automatically ASSUME that's who I'm speaking about and get defensive.

My post was referring to what it takes to win Mr. Basketball. That post could apply to ANY team or player in the state.

Again, don't get so defensive. You're way too sensitive when it comes to Elisha. Next time take a deep breath, take your medicine, and relax. Nobody is saying anything bad about him and I especially didn't in my last post that you quoted.

I understand perfectly what it takes to win Mr. Basketball in the state of Kentucky, I played with a Mr. Basketball, Todd May from Virgie, who have you played with or against? Justice gets plenty of exposure in the All A and he will in the state tournament.

I've played against my fair share of talented players...most notably Bill Walker when he was at North College Hill with OJ Mayo and Keenan Ellis. I believe Bill is playing for the Celtics now and I GUESS Oj Mayo was an alright ball player himself.

Just to throw out a few stats for Elisha Justice through 17 games:


20. 5 points per game
4.1 rebounds per game
7.3 assists per game
4.2 steals per game

As of 1-26, Justice has 472 steals, the state record is 499, he needs 28 steals to break the state record.

Impressive numbers.

The reason I bolded the above though, how many of those steals have come against teams outside of the 15th region? Not trying to take away from this accompliship, but do you think he'd still be close to that record if he were playing in the 7th region? or one of the top 5 or 6 regions in the state?

Again, not bashing the kid...just asking a simple question so nobody jump of the deep end and say I'm bashing him. Take a deep breath and relax before you click on the little quote button in the bottom right hand corner.

[kywldcat01]

Sure didn't take this thread long to become an Elisha Justice thread.

I can finally see why everyone outside of Pike County is tired of seeing his name on this board.

:notworthy:Thumbs:

[PC_You_Know]

And it's posts like this why people criticize SV and their players at times. Not once did I ever mention SV or EJ in my post and you automatically ASSUME that's who I'm speaking about and get defensive.

My post was referring to what it takes to win Mr. Basketball. That post could apply to ANY team or player in the state.

Again, don't get so defensive. You're way too sensitive when it comes to Elisha. Next time take a deep breath, take your medicine, and relax. Nobody is saying anything bad about him and I especially didn't in my last post that you quoted.



I've played against my fair share of talented players...most notably Bill Walker when he was at North College Hill with OJ Mayo and Keenan Ellis. I believe Bill is playing for the Celtics now and I GUESS Oj Mayo was an alright ball player himself.



Impressive numbers.

The reason I bolded the above though, how many of those steals have come against teams outside of the 15th region? Not trying to take away from this accompliship, but do you think he'd still be close to that record if he were playing in the 7th region? or one of the top 5 or 6 regions in the state?

Again, not bashing the kid...just asking a simple question so nobody jump of the deep end and say I'm bashing him. Take a deep breath and relax before you click on the little quote button in the bottom right hand corner.

Will you lay your hand on the bible or whatever holy book you follow by and say that you were not referring to SV and Elisha Justice with that post?

Hostility much? Continuously taking shots at me. You really do crack me up.

Well I guess you need to go back, find out who the person that holds the record got his steals against, and take away the ones against bad teams. Since ONLY game against good teams count. I guess SV should just not even play in the Region tournament and just got straight to state.

[mama cat]

Sure didn't take this thread long to become an Elisha Justice thread.

I can finally see why everyone outside of Pike County is tired of seeing his name on this board.

My bad, I thought this discussion was about candidates for Mr. Basketball????? I really don't know about any other candidates except for Elisha since he plays with my son. I guess it would have been okay if I had been discussing someone else! I thought this was an open forum? Again, your dislike and jealousy is soooo very evident. It feels like the majority of people on here can't stand to hear anyone say anything nice about Elisha!

That was a very impressive letter about Josh, he sounds like an awesome young man also! Good luck to Josh and all the other candidates!

[dortonite]

A letter to the editor from this morning's Louisville Courier-Journal

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2...osh+Sewell

I think this is a very nice comment about Josh Sewell and his qualifications for Mr. Basketball, and totally agree. My choice happens to be Elisha Justice. It is nice to think it should be one of these two.

[dortonite]

Sure didn't take this thread long to become an Elisha Justice thread.

I can finally see why everyone outside of Pike County is tired of seeing his name on this board.

As an administrator on this site do you think these two comments are appropriate, and from someone from Prestonsburg? I think I will cancel our family reunion at Jenny Wiley because of you, ha ha. The topic is Mr.Basketball, by Mr.Wildcat and you don't like SV fans showing our support? Of the 82 comments so far, Wildcat has posted 13 against 8 for PC You Know, our most ardent poster and you agree with Wildcat SV posters are overboard, ha ha. I have followed Dorton and now SV basketball for 55 years and have a family member that has been a fan for over 60, Elisha is the best player from Dorton, ever, in our opinion, and you are tired of us saying so to people outside of Pike County. What is the old saying"Success breeds comtempt", maybe a better word is jealousy? I didn't want to stoop to that low but you asked for it,LOL!

[outdoorsman43]

This is Josh Sewell's award to lose. It would be nice for a Mountain boy to win the award but I just don't see it -- and rightfully so, Sewell is the most deserving as of right now.

[outdoorsman43]

As an administrator on this site do you think these two comments are appropriate, and from someone from Prestonsburg? I think I will cancel our family reunion at Jenny Wiley because of you, ha ha. The topic is Mr.Basketball, by Mr.Wildcat and you don't like SV fans showing our support? Of the 82 comments so far, Wildcat has posted 13 against 8 for PC You Know, our most ardent poster and you agree with Wildcat SV posters are overboard, ha ha. I have followed Dorton and now SV basketball for 55 years and have a family member that has been a fan for over 60, Elisha is the best player from Dorton, ever, in our opinion, and you are tired of us saying so to people outside of Pike County. What is the old saying"Success breeds comtempt", maybe a better word is jealousy? I didn't want to stoop to that low but you asked for it,LOL!

Nothing wrong with showing support for EJ and Shelby Valley but some people take it way too far. I am a big fan of Justice myself and love watching him play. I'll tell you right now that he isn't overrated and deserves the attention that he gets. But when beyond-biased posters get on here and talk about how he is hands down the best player in the state and a lock for Mr. Basketball just gets a little old. Why does that get old? Because it's just plain biased. Justice is one of the most talented players in the state, but is he a lock for Mr. Basketball? No way. He has too many things against him to make him a lock. Is he a realistic candidate? Absolutely. He has put up some very impressive numbers this season, but against what kind of competition?

Josh Sewell is the most deserving favorite. Why? He is the best player on the best team in the state right now. He has made game winners, put up big numbers (close to 20 points per game), and been an absolute stud to date. He has lead the Trinity Shamrocks to a 18-2 record (9-1 in the 7th region). He competes against the toughest competition in the state night in and night out. How can you beat out what Sewell has going for him right now? You can't.

Mr. Basketball has Sewell's name on it right now.

[mama cat]

Nothing wrong with showing support for EJ and Shelby Valley but some people take it way too far. I am a big fan of Justice myself and love watching him play. I'll tell you right now that he isn't overrated and deserves the attention that he gets. But when beyond-biased posters get on here and talk about how he is hands down the best player in the state and a lock for Mr. Basketball just gets a little old. Why does that get old? Because it's just plain biased. Justice is one of the most talented players in the state, but is he a lock for Mr. Basketball? No way. He has too many things against him to make him a lock. Is he a realistic candidate? Absolutely. He has put up some very impressive numbers this season, but against what kind of competition?

Josh Sewell is the most deserving favorite. Why? He is the best player on the best team in the state right now. He has made game winners, put up big numbers (close to 20 points per game), and been an absolute stud to date. He has lead the Trinity Shamrocks to a 18-2 record (9-1 in the 7th region). He competes against the toughest competition in the state night in and night out. How can you beat out what Sewell has going for him right now? You can't.

Mr. Basketball has Sewell's name on it right now.

So let me get this straight, we can't believe that Elisha is deserving but you can believe that Josh is? I haven't seen one place anywhere on here where someone said that Elisha was a lockin!!!! If someone did it was probably a child! You seem pretty arrogant in your statements above yet I haven't seen one post on here that bold about Elisha, yet I don't see anyone bashing you for believing in Josh! Please stop bashing Elisha's supporters and putting words in our mouths that we don't even say! We love and respect him and of course we want him to win, just like other supporters want their candidates to win! You don't see any SV fans trying to downplay them! It seems like a constant thing on here for people to be downplaying Elisha and he sooooo doesn't deserve that in any way!

[BlackcatAlum]

My bad, I thought this discussion was about candidates for Mr. Basketball????? I really don't know about any other candidates except for Elisha since he plays with my son. I guess it would have been okay if I had been discussing someone else! I thought this was an open forum? Again, your dislike and jealousy is soooo very evident. It feels like the majority of people on here can't stand to hear anyone say anything nice about Elisha!

That was a very impressive letter about Josh, he sounds like an awesome young man also! Good luck to Josh and all the other candidates!

As an administrator on this site do you think these two comments are appropriate, and from someone from Prestonsburg? I think I will cancel our family reunion at Jenny Wiley because of you, ha ha. The topic is Mr.Basketball, by Mr.Wildcat and you don't like SV fans showing our support? Of the 82 comments so far, Wildcat has posted 13 against 8 for PC You Know, our most ardent poster and you agree with Wildcat SV posters are overboard, ha ha. I have followed Dorton and now SV basketball for 55 years and have a family member that has been a fan for over 60, Elisha is the best player from Dorton, ever, in our opinion, and you are tired of us saying so to people outside of Pike County. What is the old saying"Success breeds comtempt", maybe a better word is jealousy? I didn't want to stoop to that low but you asked for it,LOL!

See what I mean? Every time someone speaks out about Shelby Valley/Elisha Justice it turns into a negative thing. Elisha Justice is my favorite player to watch in this state and I would take him over anyone, but fact is the overall bias on this site is starting to really show. And me being an administrator has nothing to do with anything, my job as an administrator is to make sure that everyone follows the rules and help the site grow, does that mean I cannot express my opinion while its within' the rules? I understand that some want to see Elisha get a shot at this prestigious award (which he will) and that they are very excited about the opportunity SV has to have a All "A" state championship, Mr. Basketball award winner, and a KHSAA state championship. But I mean do the Wildcat faithful have to turn every thread into a Elisha Justice or Shelby Valley thread, no they do not. Their are many more players/teams out there just as good if not better than Elisha and Shelby Valley and when someone puts them above SV or Elisha near chaos takes place it seems.

Again I have no problem with SV or Elisha. Like I said, I'm a big fan of both and sported a SV shirt at the Sweet16 last season when everyone else around me was rooting for Elliott County. So there's no point in anyone trying to play the I dislike SV/Elisha card.

Nothing wrong with showing support for EJ and Shelby Valley but some people take it way too far. I am a big fan of Justice myself and love watching him play. I'll tell you right now that he isn't overrated and deserves the attention that he gets. But when beyond-biased posters get on here and talk about how he is hands down the best player in the state and a lock for Mr. Basketball just gets a little old. Why does that get old? Because it's just plain biased. Justice is one of the most talented players in the state, but is he a lock for Mr. Basketball? No way. He has too many things against him to make him a lock. Is he a realistic candidate? Absolutely. He has put up some very impressive numbers this season, but against what kind of competition?

My thoughts exactly.

[outdoorsman43]

So let me get this straight, we can't believe that Elisha is deserving but you can believe that Josh is? I haven't seen one place anywhere on here where someone said that Elisha was a lockin!!!! If someone did it was probably a child! You seem pretty arrogant in your statements above yet I haven't seen one post on here that bold about Elisha, yet I don't see anyone bashing you for believing in Josh! Please stop bashing Elisha's supporters and putting words in our mouths that we don't even say! We love and respect him and of course we want him to win, just like other supporters want their candidates to win! You don't see any SV fans trying to downplay them! It seems like a constant thing on here for people to be downplaying Elisha and he sooooo doesn't deserve that in any way!

Well if you would read my whole my post you would find that I say he is a very realistic candidate and there is nothing wrong with showing support for Elisha. Why get so worked up about that post?

Was my post directed toward you? I haven't even read your posts on this thread yet. They may share my thoughts exactly. Who knows?

If something isn't wholeheartedly said to compliment Justice don't take it out of proportion next time.

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. I absolutely love the way Elisha Justice plays, have watched him for many years, am a big fan of him, and may even have some red and white pom poms for him when he's playing for Pitino. But like BCA said, I can see why posters from NKY and other areas get tired of hearing his name.

[BlackcatAlum]

So let me get this straight, we can't believe that Elisha is deserving but you can believe that Josh is? I haven't seen one place anywhere on here where someone said that Elisha was a lockin!!!! If someone did it was probably a child! You seem pretty arrogant in your statements above yet I haven't seen one post on here that bold about Elisha, yet I don't see anyone bashing you for believing in Josh! Please stop bashing Elisha's supporters and putting words in our mouths that we don't even say! We love and respect him and of course we want him to win, just like other supporters want their candidates to win! You don't see any SV fans trying to downplay them! It seems like a constant thing on here for people to be downplaying Elisha and he sooooo doesn't deserve that in any way!

I'm sorry, but anytime someone says speaks out about Shelby Valley or Elisha you better bet that several SV supporters are going to attack this member. I see it in just about every SV thread.

And no one said that there is anything wrong with anyone expressing their opinion about who the support. Its just that a lot of us are being turned against a lot of SV supporters because of the comments they make when someone criticizes SV or picks against them in a prediction thread.

[outdoorsman43]

I'm sorry, but anytime someone says speaks out about Shelby Valley or Elisha you better bet that several SV supporters are going to attack this member. I see it in just about every SV thread.

And no one said that there is anything wrong with anyone expressing their opinion about who the support. Its just that a lot of us are being turned against a lot of SV supporters because of the comments they make when someone criticizes SV or picks against them in a prediction thread.

:Thumbs: Agreed.