[jetpilot]

I don't think Bobby Deramus or Tim Honaker even played college football, but both were D-1 caliber kids. Mickey Webster had some D-1 offers. Greg Hackney was a D-1 caliber kid and had some D-1 offers. There's 4, and not to mention Roop and Neeley. Just because these players didn't play D-1, doesn't meen they weren't D-1 caliber type kids.

A D-1 kid is a kid who played D-1 football!!! Anything else is just an opinion. How many players from Pikeville's championship team played D-1 football? If you want to speculate I can speculate that Pikeville had several D-1 "caliber players" on the last several underachieving teams.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you aren't from Pikeville and/or were connected to one of the recent failed coaching staffs...

Pikeville has had several players since the championship teams that are as good as players on those teams...all we were lacking is coaching and that problem has been solved in a big way.

Watch and see how different things will be VERY QUICKLY. And if you don't think Pikeville can ever win another title you are dead wrong. Sit back and watch!hh::HitWall::flame:

[Big Five-0-]

Just let it die, everyone wants to see this game now, but where were they 5-6 years ago? The simple fact is they want in on a Pikeville program that is down. There are reasons to support both sides of the argument, but no one is going to be able to force either to agree to disagree.

Your' right. People in general it seems, believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts.

[Big Five-0-]

I don't think Bobby Deramus or Tim Honaker even played college football, but both were D-1 caliber kids. Mickey Webster had some D-1 offers. Greg Hackney was a D-1 caliber kid and had some D-1 offers. There's 4, and not to mention Roop and Neeley. Just because these players didn't play D-1, doesn't meen they weren't D-1 caliber type kids.

Permit me, if you will to go back to the 80's ---just for a moment--- to share this w/ you. Mickey Webster went on to U.K. to play football (0n scholarship), but had a severe knee injury and was unable to finish . He did however, earned his degree in law. Last i heard he's practicing law in Lex.

[SportsKing]

A D-1 kid is a kid who played D-1 football!!! Anything else is just an opinion. How many players from Pikeville's championship team played D-1 football? If you want to speculate I can speculate that Pikeville had several D-1 "caliber players" on the last several underachieving teams.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you aren't from Pikeville and/or were connected to one of the recent failed coaching staffs...

Pikeville has had several players since the championship teams that are as good as players on those teams...all we were lacking is coaching and that problem has been solved in a big way.

Watch and see how different things will be VERY QUICKLY. And if you don't think Pikeville can ever win another title you are dead wrong. Sit back and watch!hh::HitWall::flame:

Honaker and Deramus didn't play D-1 because of off-the field reasons. Hackney could have played D-1 if he had wanted to go in that direction. Steve Bailey was probably the best running back to ever wear the maroon, played at Marshall

I'm going to go a little further out on that limb and say that you have never been involved in coaching, that's obvious. Just have another drink!!!:dontthink ...and yes you would be guessing! So if you're trying to attack me personally or trying to imply that I was part of something that you have no idea about, then I would love to discuss it or settle it any other way, outside of BGR. Just postmail me with your contact info.

Some players in the 90's(Powers, Akers, Coleman) may have been close to some of those players, but not many others. Since 2001, Ted Honaker would be the the only player to compare to those guys.

I've said it before and I'll say it one more time, Pikeville should have a very good team this year, but not state title contenders............and by the way, what kind of talent has been coming through the middle grades as of late.

Pikeville will have some good regular season win/loss records coming up because after this year I would say we could expect some easier schedules in order to drum up some wins. I've been hearing that the new coach was trying to get out of some of the contracts with teams on this years schedule. What have you heard?

[SportsKing]

Permit me, if you will to go back to the 80's ---just for a moment--- to share this w/ you. Mickey Webster went on to U.K. to play football (0n scholarship), but had a severe knee injury and was unable to finish . He did however, earned his degree in law. Last i heard he's practicing law in Lex.

Exactly, I even think Stanford gave him an offer.

[SportsKing]

Lol, what are they going to do? Kick kids out of school to get enrollment down?

I have know idea how. I thought they were way over the limit but I could be wrong. The last I heard was that they were trying to do something with the 9th grade, maybe make it part of the middle school or something......I don't know. I'll see if I can find out anything else.

[jetpilot]

Honaker and Deramus didn't play D-1 because of off-the field reasons. Hackney could have played D-1 if he had wanted to go in that direction. Steve Bailey was probably the best running back to ever wear the maroon, played at Marshall

I'm going to go a little further out on that limb and say that you have never been involved in coaching, that's obvious. Just have another drink!!!:dontthink ...and yes you would be guessing! So if you're trying to attack me personally or trying to imply that I was part of something that you have no idea about, then I would love to discuss it or settle it any other way, outside of BGR. Just postmail me with your contact info.

Some players in the 90's(Powers, Akers, Coleman) may have been close to some of those players, but not many others. Since 2001, Ted Honaker would be the the only player to compare to those guys.

I've said it before and I'll say it one more time, Pikeville should have a very good team this year, but not state title contenders............and by the way, what kind of talent has been coming through the middle grades as of late.

Pikeville will have some good regular season win/loss records coming up because after this year I would say we could expect some easier schedules in order to drum up some wins. I've been hearing that the new coach was trying to get out of some of the contracts with teams on this years schedule. What have you heard?

LOL talk about making a bunch of assumptions. I'll be glad to bring the booze if you'll bring some of whatever you are smoking, lol...Keep on saying how Pikeville's best days are over and making excuses all the time and people who know better and know what Pikeville is all about will just keep rolling their eyes at you and being glad we have people in there now who can get the job done.hh:

[The Sports Pup]

Good Luck, I Hope They Can Re-build

[jetpilot]

Also, haven't heard about the coach trying to get out of any games - but I wouldn't blame him for seeing if the Corbin people can find someone else to play Boyle Co. Don't see how that can help Pikeville. I doubt he is trying to get out of playing Belfry, SC or Prestonsburg...just my guess...

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Just because Pikeville's teams of today doesn't reach the bar set by the 80"s teams, don't mean they are mediocre as long as they do the best they can with the talent they have. My point is that expectations should be to do the best they can with the talent they have to work with, and I know you don't believe for one minute that they have near the talent coming through the system that used to be there.

But they havent reached their potential with the talent they had in the last few years because our 2 recent coaches before Ben never used the talent they had properly and, therefore, ran off alot of potential talent that we are just now getting back.

[Big Five-0-]

Also, haven't heard about the coach trying to get out of any games - but I wouldn't blame him for seeing if the Corbin people can find someone else to play Boyle Co. Don't see how that can help Pikeville. I doubt he is trying to get out of playing Belfry, SC or Prestonsburg...just my guess...

Just give Ben a little time & we will be more able to compete w/ the likes of the Boyle Co.'s of this state.The talent is there & Ben will make the best use of it. GO PANTHERS!!

[Big Five-0-]

But they havent reached their potential with the talent they had in the last few years because our 2 recent coaches before Ben never used the talent they had properly and, therefore, ran off alot of potential talent that we are just now getting back.

Agree!

[jetpilot]

Two points: 1 - Pikeville doesn't even need to be as good as the 80s championship teams to contend for a state championship. Those teams were head and shoulders above the rest of Class A. 2 - If there aren't plenty of good athletes at PHS, how has the baseball team beat a 5A school with a great baseball program like Johnson Central twice this year?

I am out of the discussion of can Pikeville contend for championships in football. I know the answer and people who don't believe it won't admit it until they see it for themselves. So...let's all just sit back and watch.:popcorn:

[jetpilot]

Just give Ben a little time & we will be more able to compete w/ the likes of the Boyle Co.'s of this state.The talent is there & Ben will make the best use of it. GO PANTHERS!!

:notworthy

[Big Five-0-]

Two points: 1 - Pikeville doesn't even need to be as good as the 80s championship teams to contend for a state championship. Those teams were head and shoulders above the rest of Class A. 2 - If there aren't plenty of good athletes at PHS, how has the baseball team beat a 5A school with a great baseball program like Johnson Central twice this year?

I am out of the discussion of can Pikeville contend for championships in football. I know the answer and people who don't believe it won't admit it until they see it for themselves. So...let's all just sit back and watch.:popcorn:

I'm with you on this one ! What it is is what it is.:Thumbs:

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Also, haven't heard about the coach trying to get out of any games - but I wouldn't blame him for seeing if the Corbin people can find someone else to play Boyle Co. Don't see how that can help Pikeville. I doubt he is trying to get out of playing Belfry, SC or Prestonsburg...just my guess...

From what I was told we had a way out but the school wanted to honor the commitment and therefore wouldnt let them get out of it. I wonder what the motivation was there? $$$$$$$.

[Big Five-0-]

From what I was told we had a way out but the school wanted to honor the commitment and therefore wouldnt let them get out of it. I wonder what the motivation was there? $$$$$$$.

HHMMM!!!:popcorn:

[The Sports Pup]

Looks like they will have a hard year, Good luck to all

[MYSPACE][/MYSPACE]

:thanks:

[i know, right?]

I dont see them struggling

[Big Five-0-]

I don't see them struggling either.However,the schedule will be tough in the early going, especially the 1st few games & Belfry during the mid season. i.m.o. .This team will be a little better than some may think especially in the post season.

[i know, right?]

I don't see them struggling either.However,the schedule will be tough in the early going, especially the 1st few games & Belfry during the mid season. i.m.o. .This team will be a little better than some may think especially in the post season.

GOOD POST!
I agree with this the first few games are going to be the test

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

I still cant figure out why they dont play Pike Central. Its across the dag gone road. Paintsville and Johnson Central play why cant we? They have the Apple Bowl, PC and PHS can have the Hillbilly Bowl.

Anyone agree?

Maybe if Coach Chapman can build up the program over there then I wouldnt mind seeing it in the future. But that remains to be seen. Chapman is a great coach but I just dont think he will be given the community support that great coaches and programs need to be successful. Just FYI the Apple Bowl doesnt exist anymore.

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IMO Pikeville will approach Hazard in Region again

As we all know PHS is a running-based team, I think spread offense in the program wont have a clean take off but as the season rolls it will begin to pick up in time for the post season

Maybe if Coach Chapman can build up the program over there then I wouldnt mind seeing it in the future. But that remains to be seen. Chapman is a great coach but I just dont think he will be given the community support that great coaches and programs need to be successful. Just FYI the Apple Bowl doesnt exist anymore.

Starting this year?

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

IMO Pikeville will approach Hazard in Region again

As we all know PHS is a running-based team, I think spread offense in the program wont have a clean take off but as the season rolls it will begin to pick up in time for the post season




Starting this year?

Yeah starting this year.

[sportsman]

class a football in ky is pitiful. beechwood reloads every year and wins it easily. pikevilles talent pool is getting smaller not bigger. i see some average years ahead mainly becausw class a is so weak.

[Big Five-0-]

So how is the weight lifting coming along?? Got very many showing up??

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

class a football in ky is pitiful. beechwood reloads every year and wins it easily. pikevilles talent pool is getting smaller not bigger. i see some average years ahead mainly becausw class a is so weak.

Really? When was the last time youve been to a JV or little league game. There is quite a bit of talent coming through Pikeville in the next few years. Our incoming Sophpomore class might be one of the most talented groups this school has seen in a while. And now IMO we have a coach who knows how to utilize that talent.

[kentucyblue4ever]

possibly 4 loses there in the regular season

6 loses this year pikeville has some work to do

[kentucyblue4ever]

I think Pikeville will lose 3 games with the possibility of a 4th loss. They will probably lose to Boyle, Belfry, and SC. Covington Holy Cross is a fairly new program with several returning starters from last year, but they are no powerhouse team.
Prestonsburg loses just about everything and will be a rebuilding year for them, so Pikeville should win that game easily.
Paintsville won't be able to play with Pikeville this year even with the return of Dohderer(spelling).
Allen Central, well it's Allen Central. Game shouldn't even be close. Remember their playoff game against Harlan!
This will be Pikeville's year with all the players they have returning. The young skill that got alot of playing time and experience last year, along with an older and experienced line on both sides of the ball should make for a very good team. People seem to forget how young they were last year. The only players they will have a hard time replacing will be Harmon at DB and Baker at wide receiver.

As soon as pikeville wakes up and gets with times they can win this 2009 not 1989 they need to be able to throw the ball