Pikeville Panthers 2009 Schedule

**jetpilot** · 05-05-2009, 06:22 AM

Salimander Wrote:Pikeville should worry about getting a decent win as well...Don't recall a decent win last year..they should worry about becoming a decent team as well....Pikeville IS the farthest thing from their mind because (a) they just aren't important anymore and (b) They are afraid to play either team !

All you do is post about Pikeville while your team has a long history of sucking. :zzz:

**Panther Thunder** · 05-05-2009, 12:14 PM

Think about it, if you are a player do you want to play an average team from around here, or an average team from another part of the state? Playing teams you don't see play a lot is more fun and interesting, it can be a measuring stick to see how you stack up in that area of the state. The PCB is a chance to get that exposure to other areas. Then I know for sure I would rather have Boyle County, Blefry, Prestonsburg (year-in and year-out), and Sheldon Clark on the schedule than Shelby Valley. No offense, but it just isn't a big attration to many fans.

Big Five-0- · 05-05-2009, 04:44 PM

Panther Thunder Wrote:Think about it, if you are a player do you want to play an average team from around here, or an average team from another part of the state? Playing teams you don't see play a lot is more fun and interesting, it can be a measuring stick to see how you stack up in that area of the state. The PCB is a chance to get that exposure to other areas. Then I know for sure I would rather have Boyle County, Blefry, Prestonsburg (year-in and year-out), and Sheldon Clark on the schedule than Shelby Valley. No offense, but it just isn't a big attration to many fans.

Well said! What it is, is what it is.:notworthy

Big Five-0- · 05-05-2009, 04:50 PM

Hilbily Wrote:Word brother man. Gitter done then undone and done again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very good!:Thumbs:

Big Five-0- · 05-05-2009, 05:15 PM

Any word on scrimmages yet??

**cougarpride08** · 05-05-2009, 06:27 PM

wonder if ben and hilliard will get together and scrimmage. That would be cool.

**jetpilot** · 05-05-2009, 08:32 PM

^^That is a great idea and would help Pikeville in many ways!!!

Big Five-0- · 05-05-2009, 11:46 PM

I agree. Would be a win--win situation for both teams.imo!

SportsKing · 05-08-2009, 12:29 AM

jetpilot Wrote:Not to people who know anything about football. Pretty sure the trophy cases are full to the brim at PHS. Go look at all of them sometime and hope you can grow up to be like that.:Thumbs:

Pikeville's glory days are gone and some people need to start accepting that fact. The 80's are gone. The talent pool is just not there and if people don't see it, then they are looking through maroon colored glasses. That is a fact that you can't dispute. You can try but you won't be able to. This season will be the best year for at least the next 5-6 years. They can't pull kids in anymore, in fact they keep losing kids of all ages to other schools.

Big Five-0- · 05-09-2009, 11:16 PM

Yes, the 80s are gone, the glory days are gone, and nobody is living in the past. We need to focus on this year's team and the future; but try to tell me that your Bell County, Belfry, Breathitts, or any other team in the state of Kentucky that has won at least one state title will not be talking about it 20 years from now with a lot of pride. The teams of 87, 88, and 89 established themselves as a measuring stick for any Pikeville team after that and what else would be better to use. GO PANTHERS!!!

**jetpilot** · 05-10-2009, 02:53 AM

SportsKing Wrote:Pikeville's glory days are gone and some people need to start accepting that fact. The 80's are gone. The talent pool is just not there and if people don't see it, then they are looking through maroon colored glasses. That is a fact that you can't dispute. You can try but you won't be able to. This season will be the best year for at least the next 5-6 years. They can't pull kids in anymore, in fact they keep losing kids of all ages to other schools.

Watch and see what a good coach does for them. What's gone are the days of making a bunch of excuses. Pikeville has been saddled with bad coaching recently and those days are gone as well.:Thumbs: Pikeville has had plenty of good teams before the 80s and since, something else you seem to be in the dark about...

HAIL PIKEVILLE! · 05-10-2009, 05:30 AM

SportsKing Wrote:Pikeville's glory days are gone and some people need to start accepting that fact. The 80's are gone. The talent pool is just not there and if people don't see it, then they are looking through maroon colored glasses. That is a fact that you can't dispute. You can try but you won't be able to. This season will be the best year for at least the next 5-6 years. They can't pull kids in anymore, in fact they keep losing kids of all ages to other schools.

So what youre saying is we should just except mediocrity? When has that attitude ever helped anything?
Answer: Never

Big Five-0- · 05-10-2009, 10:50 PM

:Thumbs:

HAIL PIKEVILLE! Wrote:So what youre saying is we should just except mediocrity? When has that attitude ever helped anything?
Answer: Never

VERY--well said!!

Big Five-0- · 05-10-2009, 10:55 PM

jetpilot Wrote:Watch and see what a good coach does for them. What's gone are the days of making a bunch of excuses. Pikeville has been saddled with bad coaching recently and those days are gone as well.:Thumbs: Pikeville has had plenty of good teams before the 80s and since, something else you seem to be in the dark about...

Couldn't have said it better!!:notworthy

SportsKing · 05-11-2009, 02:18 PM

jetpilot Wrote:Watch and see what a good coach does for them. What's gone are the days of making a bunch of excuses. Pikeville has been saddled with bad coaching recently and those days are gone as well.:Thumbs: Pikeville has had plenty of good teams before the 80s and since, something else you seem to be in the dark about...

I agree that Howard and McNamee will do a good job. My point was that they're not going to get the quality of kids that use to be there. Now, they are still some good players there and they will have to develop them, but they're not ever going to have 4-5 D1 players on one team like the 80's, it's never going to be that way again. I'm not saying that Pikeville fans should accept mediocrity, but they should reallize that Pikeville's best days are behind them. It doesn't matter if Urban Meyer is their coach, you have to have the horses to run in the big races. The local teams with the best talent will prevail most of the time.

**jetpilot** · 05-11-2009, 03:19 PM

SportsKing Wrote:I agree that Howard and McNamee will do a good job. My point was that they're not going to get the quality of kids that use to be there. Now, they are still some good players there and they will have to develop them, but they're not ever going to have 4-5 D1 players on one team like the 80's, it's never going to be that way again. I'm not saying that Pikeville fans should accept mediocrity, but they should reallize that Pikeville's best days are behind them. It doesn't matter if Urban Meyer is their coach, you have to have the horses to run in the big races. The local teams with the best talent will prevail most of the time.

I'm glad we have gotten rid of the people who think that way! Anyone who has the mindset that Pikeville can never win another title doesn't know what Pikeville is all about. Didn't have 4 or 5 D-1 players on the title teams either - get your facts straight.:zzz:

HAIL PIKEVILLE! · 05-12-2009, 10:03 AM

SportsKing Wrote:I'm not saying that Pikeville fans should accept mediocrity, but they should reallize that Pikeville's best days are behind them.

Which is the very definition of excepting mediocrity!

Big Five-0- · 05-12-2009, 02:21 PM

HAIL PIKEVILLE! Wrote:Which is the very definition of excepting mediocrity!

I agree. And that is something that this program cannot & will not accept; Never has, & never will.!!

i know, right? · 05-12-2009, 02:24 PM

Big Five-0- Wrote:I agree. And that is something that this program cannot & will not accept; Never has, & never will.!!

EXACTLY!!

~~If...Then~~ · 05-12-2009, 04:07 PM

I still cant figure out why they dont play Pike Central. Its across the dag gone road. Paintsville and Johnson Central play why cant we? They have the Apple Bowl, PC and PHS can have the Hillbilly Bowl.

Anyone agree?

Big Five-0- · 05-13-2009, 01:44 AM

Suggestion; Lets explore the diff. between playing them (Central) , & Valley. ----Input---- ??????

**jetpilot** · 05-13-2009, 02:07 AM

Big Five-0- Wrote:Suggestion; Lets explore the diff. between playing them (Central) , & Valley. ----Input---- ??????

The difference is one is a waste of time and the other is a waste of time.:biggrin::dontthink

Big Five-0- · 05-13-2009, 12:13 PM

That's it exactly! The question we've got to ask ourselves is, how is it going to benefit both programs? Wouldn't it be the same situation with S.V. that was previously ask? The one & only benefit i see would be for the fans . I.M.O. a Danville, or a Lex. Christian or some program of this caliber would be more of a benefit to either that would schedule. I think Central has some great things in the future if Chapman stays. But for now i see no benefit. I.M.O.

**Panther Thunder** · 05-13-2009, 12:27 PM

If...Then Wrote:I still cant figure out why they dont play Pike Central. Its across the dag gone road. Paintsville and Johnson Central play why cant we? They have the Apple Bowl, PC and PHS can have the Hillbilly Bowl.

Anyone agree?

Answer me this, who would you rather play---- Phelps, Magoffin, Valley, East Ridge OR Danville, Boyle County, Mayfield, LCA, Dunbar, Holmes, etc.... The district competition is enough low-caliber teams from eastern kentucky. If you want to compete in the state you have to do exactly that, play teams from the state. If you don't have a measuring stick, you don't know what you need to improve on in specific areas. These higher caliber teams from central and western Kentucky give you a better read on the type of teams you will be facing in the latter rounds of the post-season.

And I don't want the typical, "The glory days are gone" response from some people. The simple fact is at Pikeville the goal should be and is a state title. Even if it seems uinlikely to win one right at the moment, these games will pay off in the future when you get sick of letting those higher caliber teams beat you, and you master those type teams enough to formulate a game plan and win. You cannot fault Pikeville for trying to make the program like that of a Beechwood or Lexington Catholic. You don't see these two programs shy away from competition on the non-district scehdule.
This tough schedule, and future schedules will only help. Taking away a good team to just get a local game for a "good gate" or an "easy win" will only be a setback or a pause in the progression. This means no offense to any of the programs listed, but this is a business for the coaches. If they don't produce any make thier teams better they will be fired.

So, don't take offense to it. If Pike Central or Shelby Valley become a high caliber program, the games will come with it.
And I would be glad to see those two and other programs in EKY to become strong programs. So the East can be like that of NKY.

SportsKing · 05-13-2009, 01:55 PM

jetpilot Wrote:I'm glad we have gotten rid of the people who think that way! Anyone who has the mindset that Pikeville can never win another title doesn't know what Pikeville is all about. Didn't have 4 or 5 D-1 players on the title teams either - get your facts straight.:zzz:

I don't think Bobby Deramus or Tim Honaker even played college football, but both were D-1 caliber kids. Mickey Webster had some D-1 offers. Greg Hackney was a D-1 caliber kid and had some D-1 offers. There's 4, and not to mention Roop and Neeley. Just because these players didn't play D-1, doesn't meen they weren't D-1 caliber type kids.

SportsKing · 05-13-2009, 02:15 PM

HAIL PIKEVILLE! Wrote:Which is the very definition of excepting mediocrity!

Just because Pikeville's teams of today doesn't reach the bar set by the 80"s teams, don't mean they are mediocre as long as they do the best they can with the talent they have. My point is that expectations should be to do the best they can with the talent they have to work with, and I know you don't believe for one minute that they have near the talent coming through the system that used to be there.

Big Five-0- · 05-13-2009, 04:37 PM

Salimander Wrote:Because Pikeville is afraid it wil be a "no" win against Shelby.

Afraid??????. If Pikeville was afraid to schedule Valley, then why would we schedule the likes of Boyle Co., Belfry, P.burg, & Sheldon Clark.?? What rock have you been living under Salamander???

**Panther Thunder** · 05-13-2009, 04:45 PM

Big Five-0- Wrote:Afraid??????. If Pikeville was afraid to schedule Valley, then why would we schedule the likes of Boyle Co., Belfry, P.burg, & Sheldon Clark.?? What rock have you been living under Salamander???

Just let it die, everyone wants to see this game now, but where were they 5-6 years ago? The simple fact is they want in on a Pikeville program that is down. There are reasons to support both sides of the argument, but no one is going to be able to force either to agree to disagree.

SportsKing · 05-13-2009, 04:50 PM

From what I've been hearing, the conversation about why Pikeville and S.V. don't play each other in football, will be irrelevant before long anyway. Shelby Valley is trying to get into 1A, and if that happens, Pikeville and S.V. would more than likely have to play each other for district.

**Panther Thunder** · 05-13-2009, 04:55 PM

SportsKing Wrote:From what I've been hearing, the conversation about why Pikeville and S.V. don't play each other in football, will be irrelevant before long anyway. Shelby Valley is trying to get into 1A, and if that happens, Pikeville and S.V. would more than likely have to play each other for district.

Lol, what are they going to do? Kick kids out of school to get enrollment down?