[Football Widow]

I think Phelps will make playoffs because the kids will play hard and they want it more.

What type of insturment or tool are you using to measure the amount of "want" in a team?

[The Sandman]

What is Phelps schedule?
The teams I know of they can beat.
East Ridge W
Betsy Layne (definate win)
Allen Cent. W
Estill (???? who knows)
South Floyd (possible win)
I think they'll be Ok as hard as they're working from what I saw.

i disagree with this big time. if they play hard and dont give up i think they could beat SF. betsy lane maybe, they are no definate wins.. none what so ever

[Grand Slam]

who are good phelps players????

[rallo316]

What type of insturment or tool are you using to measure the amount of "want" in a team?

well they are probaly the smallest 1A school in the state and they are pretty much to themselves they could mail it in ever year but they don't if half the schools had that heart they do Pikeville and Belfry might have some competion and look at the Phelps dance team one of the best in the state maybe even nation.

[finepoint]

well they are probaly the smallest 1A school in the state and they are pretty much to themselves they could mail it in ever year but they don't if half the schools had that heart they do Pikeville and Belfry might have some competion and look at the Phelps dance team one of the best in the state maybe even nation.

As far as class A Ball goes, they are about the middle of the road. I think they are real close to Pikeville in the average that the khsaa used to classify schools.

So if a Belfry player and a Phelps player were nose to nose, the Phelps kid "wants" it (to win) more than the Belfry kid simply because his school is smaller?

[phs1986]

As far as class A Ball goes, they are about the middle of the road. I think they are real close to Pikeville in the average that the khsaa used to classify schools.

So if a Belfry player and a Phelps player were nose to nose, the Phelps kid "wants" it (to win) more than the Belfry kid simply because his school is smaller?

finepoint.... the way I took it is that Phelps players don't have the "advantages" that larger schools do... Granted... ALL the kids probably want to win or they wouldn't be bustin their tails in the heat everyday practicing.... and by ALL I mean any kid who plays extracurricular activities in ANY school in the county. Phelps has some awesome athletes as do other schools in the county but they just don't have the numbers (enrollment) or the facilities that other schools in the county have. I personally can NOT compare 1 child to another as they are all special...... to be able to get out there and dedicate themselves not only to getting an education but to working their butt off on the field or court for that matter only makes them shine very brightly in my eyes!!

[scavanger]

personaly i played with phelps last year i meen against them and the had some good play..

[TRAIN85]

How many kids does Phelps have out? I heard that they had a few quit on them. Seems like a lot of kids are quitting now a days.

[Another Asssist]

I assume Charlie hunt no longer plays football since the car accident? can someone answer that for me ?

[Football Widow]

well they are probaly the smallest 1A school in the state and they are pretty much to themselves they could mail it in ever year but they don't if half the schools had that heart they do Pikeville and Belfry might have some competion and look at the Phelps dance team one of the best in the state maybe even nation.

All I'm saying is there is no such thing as a "want-o-meter" out there that can measure if one school wants to win more than another. Just like you can't measure who has more heart. ALL schools want to win and ALL schools think they have more heart than anyone else. I wish the hornets all the best and hope that they can pull together this season and show us what their made of. By the way this is a football forum, not here to talk about dance teams.

[FOX SPORTS]

well they are probaly the smallest 1A school in the state .

Actually, they are not even close to the smallest Class A school.
Here's just a few smaller football plaing schools and a link to enrollment figures:

http://www.khsaa.org/reports/2006and2007...enroll.pdf

School Avg Enrollment 04-06
Phelps 204
Fairview 202
Bethlehem 200
Bellevue 187
Paintsville 167
Harlan 154
Williamsburg 154
Jenkins 147

Again that is just a sampling of small Class A schools.
Here are a couple of more enrollment numbers I thought were interesting:

Beechwood 231
Raceland 224
Hazard 220

[phs1986]

Actually, they are not even close to the smallest Class A school.
Here's just a few smaller football plaing schools and a link to enrollment figures:

http://www.khsaa.org/reports/2006and2007...enroll.pdf

School Avg Enrollment 04-06
Phelps 204
Fairview 202
Bethlehem 200
Bellevue 187
Paintsville 167
Harlan 154
Williamsburg 154
Jenkins 147

Again that is just a sampling of small Class A schools.
Here are a couple of more enrollment numbers I thought were interesting:

Beechwood 231
Raceland 224
Hazard 220

Nice numbers BUT..... you have to understand that Phelps numbers include grades 7 and 8 which CAN NOT play with the high school..... they are the Jr. High which plays in the middle school level....

[The Sandman]

Nice numbers BUT..... you have to understand that Phelps numbers include grades 7 and 8 which CAN NOT play with the high school..... they are the Jr. High which plays in the middle school level....

umm.. lol well jenkins is also 7th-12th.... and i thought we had about 250 in the whole school but i guess not.

[phs1986]

umm.. lol well jenkins is also 7th-12th.... and i thought we had about 250 in the whole school but i guess not.

Sounds as if your in the same shape as Phelps.....

[FOX SPORTS]

Nice numbers BUT..... you have to understand that Phelps numbers include grades 7 and 8 which CAN NOT play with the high school..... they are the Jr. High which plays in the middle school level....

Not according to the KHSAA, the numbers quoted are directly from the KHSAA for grades 10-12, as reported by the individual schools.

[VHSL-helper]

OK, time for a neutral observer to mediate this.

I looked in the Handbook and couldn't find anything about how the numbers are collected / manipulated (VA's handbook explains it). So, I pulled up some of the KHSAA .pdf files and went through them.

/reports/20062007schoolenrollmenttotalsbyenroll has a column labeled C-boys, and /reports/2006and2007averanegschoolenrollmentbyenroll has a column labeled CY4Boy. These are the same thing - the number of boys in grades 9-12 for the 2006-2007 school year (no averages - actual numbers). Phelps had 172. Now, add in 141 girls in grades 9-12 and their total ACTUAL enrollment was 313, which was 7 less than Raceland and 2 more than Holy Cross. (Jenkins had 211)

So the 20062007schoolenrollmenttotalsbyenroll page has schools in order by total enrollment last year of all kids in grades 9-12... I counted 66 schools with fewer students than Phelps.

So, like I told somebody down in Gate City a few months ago, it doesn't matter how many bodies are in the building (theirs is 10-12), what matters is how many the rules say are to be counted.

http://www.khsaa.org/reports/20062007sch...enroll.pdf

[FOX SPORTS]

OK, time for a neutral observer to mediate this.

Nope, I'm neutral also.
You're not the only one with no dog in the fight.

[The Sandman]

OK, time for a neutral observer to mediate this.

I looked in the Handbook and couldn't find anything about how the numbers are collected / manipulated (VA's handbook explains it). So, I pulled up some of the KHSAA .pdf files and went through them.

/reports/20062007schoolenrollmenttotalsbyenroll has a column labeled C-boys, and /reports/2006and2007averanegschoolenrollmentbyenroll has a column labeled CY4Boy. These are the same thing - the number of boys in grades 9-12 for the 2006-2007 school year (no averages - actual numbers). Phelps had 172. Now, add in 141 girls in grades 9-12 and their total ACTUAL enrollment was 313, which was 7 less than Raceland and 2 more than Holy Cross. (Jenkins had 211)

So the 20062007schoolenrollmenttotalsbyenroll page has schools in order by total enrollment last year of all kids in grades 9-12... I counted 66 schools with fewer students than Phelps.

So, like I told somebody down in Gate City a few months ago, it doesn't matter how many bodies are in the building (theirs is 10-12), what matters is how many the rules say are to be counted.

http://www.khsaa.org/reports/20062007sch...enroll.pdf

if you wouldnt mind could u post how many schools had fewer number then jenkins?

[VHSL-helper]

At 211, Jenkins is 40th smallest. Remember, this is ALL schools, Academies & Christians included.

[phs1986]

Ya know... I think that it's not really the numbers(enrollment) that hurt Phelps but it's the amount of kids that come out to play. There is just not a lot of kids who are interested in playing football. Basketball and dance is another story...

[bigpun]

How have Phelps' scrimmages went so far?

[The Sandman]

Ya know... I think that it's not really the numbers(enrollment) that hurt Phelps but it's the amount of kids that come out to play. There is just not a lot of kids who are interested in playing football. Basketball and dance is another story...

well theres really no way of tellin who wants to play and who dosent want to play. unless u were to survey every 1A school in KY.

[phs1986]

well theres really no way of tellin who wants to play and who dosent want to play. unless u were to survey every 1A school in KY.

UH..... its EVIDENT that they don't want to play AT PHELPS... (I was talking about NO other school FYI) when they don't show up at a practice or sign up to play. I did mean individual players at an individual school NOT the entire 1A school system.... (Hoope that cleared that up for you sandman....).

[All-American Lineman]

personaly i played with phelps last year i meen against them and the had some good play..

They we're decent last year

[qb destroyer]

coach jones was a definate assesst to the phelps football program. he is a great guy and a awesome coach. good luck to the team and coach jones.

[warriorpride]

what was the score between them and pound today?

[Hands]

I think Phelps' 1st team came first and let the 2nd team play a series against the 1st team pound defense.
The score was like 26-14?

[qb destroyer]

coach jones is a great coach and is a awesome asset to the phelps football program. he will definately bring out the best in the football players good luck to all.

[qb destroyer]

coach jones is a great coach and a great assest to the team. he will bring out the best in the players. good luck coach and players.

[qb destroyer]

good luck to coach and all the team. coach jones is a great guy and a awesome coach.