[allthewayhome]

Who went to the NBA and who didnt

hahahahahahahaha yeah i guess rondo went to the nba i think i said that but neither of them should of went to the nba early unless you average a double double but i still think morris is way better than rondo

[tomcatfan722000]

UK Being the NATIONS top program recruits the best players In the NATION now with that being said there is some very good talent in ky and as far as tubby not liking Ky boys anyone remember Antoine Barber (not sure if i spelled that right)

[OffTheHook]

UK Being the NATIONS top program recruits the best players In the NATION now with that being said there is some very good talent in ky and as far as tubby not liking Ky boys anyone remember Antoine Barber (not sure if i spelled that right)

Dumber than a rock! LOL! That's why he had to go JUCO before going D-1.

[tomcatfan722000]

First of all insulting a mans intelligence isnt needed and the point was that he was a ky boy that played for the big blue

[Tree_8]

What I get sick of is the recruiting of out of state boys who are permanent bench riders (ie Shegari Alleyene and others). Why not give scholarships to KY boys---even if they ride the bench they are still getting a scholarship to attend their state university. And I bet that wearing the blue and white might mean something to them!!!! Some of them might even turn out to be more than "bench riders". When I think of deserving KY boys who got passed over in the Tubby era it makes me sick!!!

could not have put it better myself....

[formerallamerican11]

I think it's Antwaun Barbour and he struggle at Kentucky. He could have went with Dan Langi from Western Ky who played at Vandy. I believe he was all SEC 2 or 3 years. Also don't get me wrong here but Scott Hundley also was a scrapper who would have played hard as H*ll in a UK uniform. Not an all american but would have game you the same effort as Ravi Moss. He could also hit his free throws.

[Doc Holliday]

ttt

[formerallamerican11]

Im not saying that its true but that is the way many college coachs feel.

I guess you have talked to all the coaches around the country. Do they really all feel this way about Ky boys?

[nasticus]

Here is the last 10 Mr. Basketball's, with the exception of Lofton (and who would have recruited him with Rondo, Crawford and Bradley coming) which ones could have made a big impact at Kentucky. That is why we don't recruit KY boys.
1996 Daymeon Fishback (Greenwood)
1997 Brandon Davenport (Owensboro)
1998 J. R. VanHoose (Paintsville)
1999 Rick Jones (Scott Co.)
2000 Scott Hundley (Scott Co.)
2001 Josh Carrier (Bowling Green)
2002 Brandon Stockton (Glasgow)
2003 Ross Neltner (Highlands)
2004 Chris Lofton (Mason County)
2005 Dominic Tilford (Jeffersontown)

[Subway Eater]

JR VanHoose and Scott Hundley both should have went to UK not Brandon Stockton

[nasticus]

JR VanHoose and Scott Hundley both should have went to UK not Brandon Stockton

I agree but the question is could they have been started and made an impact. I agree the prolly would have fit and been good role players.

[OffTheHook]

Here is the last 10 Mr. Basketball's, with the exception of Lofton (and who would have recruited him with Rondo, Crawford and Bradley coming) which ones could have made a big impact at Kentucky. That is why we don't recruit KY boys.
1996 Daymeon Fishback (Greenwood)
1997 Brandon Davenport (Owensboro)
1998 J. R. VanHoose (Paintsville)
1999 Rick Jones (Scott Co.)
2000 Scott Hundley (Scott Co.)
2001 Josh Carrier (Bowling Green)
2002 Brandon Stockton (Glasgow)
2003 Ross Neltner (Highlands)
2004 Chris Lofton (Mason County)
2005 Dominic Tilford (Jeffersontown)

No one is talking about the making a big impact. What we are all saying is put a few of them on the team. The impact you get is from their heart, desire and pride. They also remind the out of state boys what it means to wear that UNI they have on their backs. I would have taken VanHoose over any other big man they have had since 1998. Here is some food for thought:

If Kentucky would have taken VanHoose in 1998 for the 98-99 season. They could have Redshirted him due to his knee and talent that they already had at his position. Here are the guys UK had at the same position and near his size on those rosters:

98-99
Padgett - SR
Magloire -JR
Bradley - Transferred Following season
Camara - FR
(VanHoose REDSHIRTED) This is my senario

99-00
Stone -We all know thye deal with him
Camara - FR
Knight - ???
VanHoose - FR

00-01
Stone
Camara - SO
Parker -??
VanHoose - SO
Estill - FR - Good Player

01-02
Stone - I think he was in the proccess of going to UL this season.
E. Daniels - JR
Camara - JR
VanHoose - JR
Estill - SO

02-03
Camara - SR
E. Daniels - SR
Estill - JR
VanHoose - SR

I see no reason why he couldn't play with these guys.

[nasticus]

OK I'll concede you are right. Since you put it like that J.R. prolly would have not only played but maybe played alot.

[happyface]

The president of the school or the athletic director should step in because, when the coach is not from KY than he won't feel that KY feeling either, he won't understand what it means to a kid to wear the blue. So a coach not from KY will never factor that in, he'll only get KY players because he is being pressured and most players want to be wanted by UK and not taken because someone is doing them a favor.

[J. R. VanHoose]

Thanks for the compliments guys, I really appreciate it. Some food for thought here, when I played against Kentucky my senior season at Marshall, 2002, I had 16 points and 12 rebounds in a 90-73 loss (it was the 40th double-double of my career). In that game I was guarded by Stone, Camara, Estill, and Hayes. When I got taken out of the game with about 15 seconds in the game I got a standing ovation from the crowd! I guess I could have played there huh?

[nasticus]

The president of the school or the athletic director should step in because, when the coach is not from KY than he won't feel that KY feeling either, he won't understand what it means to a kid to wear the blue. So a coach not from KY will never factor that in, he'll only get KY players because he is being pressured and most players want to be wanted by UK and not taken because someone is doing them a favor.

Well if this is the case I think we may be out of luck, since barnhardt is not from KY, he prolly doesn't have KY in his heart. However I think that the next coach at Kentucky may be Travis Ford or John Pelphrey. Or maybe this is just my wishful thinking

[happyface]

Well if this is the case I think we may be out of luck, since barnhardt is not from KY, he prolly doesn't have KY in his heart. However I think that the next coach at Kentucky may be Travis Ford or John Pelphrey. Or maybe this is just my wishful thinking

If it is one of those guys maybe they will look harder at out top 10 to 15 players in the state. How tall is JR?

[nasticus]

I dunno. How tall are ya J.R.

[nasticus]

If it is one of those guys maybe they will look harder at out top 10 to 15 players in the state. How tall is JR?

I actually think he is bout 6"10 or so. Does anyone know what he is doing now, I know he was trying the developmental league. I have not heard anything after that.?

[OffTheHook]

Thanks for the compliments guys, I really appreciate it. Some food for thought here, when I played against Kentucky my senior season at Marshall, 2002, I had 16 points and 12 rebounds in a 90-73 loss (it was the 40th double-double of my career). In that game I was guarded by Stone, Camara, Estill, and Hayes. When I got taken out of the game with about 15 seconds in the game I got a standing ovation from the crowd! I guess I could have played there huh?

I know you could have. If you would have came in and Redshirted and got yourself healthy, I think you would have been a big part of that team. Once Padgett and them boys left, they have been weak at those positions since.

Also, You know why you got that standing "O"? Everybody in that gym knew you should have been wearing BLUE and they were just letting you know and letting Tubby know it too!:Thumbs:

[J. R. VanHoose]

I dunno. How tall are ya J.R.

6'9" in my gym shoes, 6'10" in my lugz casual shoes. I guess you could say 6'9" since I don't play ball in my lugz (there are too heavy - size 17!!)

[J. R. VanHoose]

I actually think he is bout 6"10 or so. Does anyone know what he is doing now, I know he was trying the developmental league. I have not heard anything after that.?

I played in the D-League in 2002, got cut and beacme a teacher. Started playing professional again in the International Basketball League (IBL) last season (2006) and re-signed with my team (West Virginia Wild) again for the upcoming season (2007). Last season I averaged 26.8 ppg (finished 6th in the league in scoring), 15.5 rpg, was named an IBL Eastern Conference All-Star, and one of ProBasketballNews.com's Top 20 Minor League Players in the United States during the Spring/Summer Season (#18). If you would like to know more about the league and my team check out the IBL's Offical Website at:

http://www.iblhoopsonline.com/

[J. R. VanHoose]

Also, You know why you got that standing "O"? Everybody in that gym knew you should have been wearing BLUE and they were just letting you know and letting Tubby know it too!:Thumbs:

Thanks, it is a great memory and I got some good pictures from it too!!!

[OffTheHook]

Anymore news on a game in Paintsville?

[BIGBLACK]

Here are some quick facts I saw on the Wild's website about JR. http://www.westvirginiawildhoops.com

Position PF ·C Height 6' 9" Weight 265 Home Town Paintsville, KY Year 2nd Year

Formally the Kentucky player of the year.
Also a former Marshall University star. J.R, last played in N. Charleston, SC in the NBA minor league. J.R. was the second player in Marshall history to have 1000 points and 1000 rebounds.
Most career Double Doubles in the nation since 1995.
4-time all Mid- American Conference

Those stats speak for themselves. No doubt in my mind that JR could've played for UK.

[pikevillepanther#11]

Tubby hasent done a good job with recruiting in a couple of years like when he got Shagari Allene hes failin so he was no help to the wildcata

[Estaban Esteves]

wow..interestin dont keep up much on that but yea they should..ive seen some good individuals from Ky

[J. R. VanHoose]

You guys know I love stats so here are some more to think about on this subject:

Daymeon Fishback (Auburn): KY Mr. Basketball 1996, last played professional ball in the NBDL in 2001.

Dan Langhi (Vanderbilt): 1st Team All-State 1996, played three seasons (I think) in the NBA, currently playing this season in Japan.

Lamont Barnes (Temple): 1st Team All-State 1996, played last season in Bulgaria.

Isiah Victor (Tennessee): 1st Team All-State 1996, currently playing this season in Italy.

Jaron Brown (Pitt): 1st Team All-State 1998, last played pro ball in 2005 in the CBA.

David Graves (Notre Dame): 1st Team All-State 1998, last played pro ball in 2005 in Spain.

Harold Swanagan (Notre Dame): 1st Team All-State 1998, currently playing in the same pro league I play in, the IBL.

Derek Robinson (Western Kentucky): Class of 1998, currently playing pro ball in Germany.

I am sure that there others and if I have time I will check, but I thought these were pretty good to go to college elsewhere!!!!

[BIGBLACK]

Swanagan was a beast. He was very physical and strong as an ox. During the championship game of the 1998 All "A" he broke the rim at EKU on one of his dunks. Coming out of high school I thought he was more physically ready to compete than the Estill boy. Estill sat out his first year at UK coming off of foot surgery and trying to get him into shape because he was overweight by UK's standards.

[Hamburger]

JR must not have been that good since Tubby didnt get him.