[SSDD]

I've never seen so many crybabies like I have from Pikeville...You all need to move on and dont let this loss get the best of ya like it seems to be...Clevenger didnt have 27 btw, he had 24...Thank you

This loss hasn't gotten the best of anyone. If anything, this loss (by a much smaller margin than predicted) served its purpose and Pikeville will learn from this game. Considering this was only Pikeville's second game this year against the Region's predicted favorite, I'd say they are looking forward to improving with each game played. BTW, thanks for the three point clarification on Clevenger.
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[WildcatFan08]

Geez , misread a post and that makes someone a crybaby? Or was it the bragging on the other teams shooting that did it? I don't see where any of Pikeville's players are being cry babies.

Well u misread another partner...In no way did I say Pikeville's players r crybabies..They play very hard...I said the people from Pikeville...Like the ones on here and the ones in the crowd..

[Panther#42]

Paintsville was called for 16 fouls while Pikeville was whistled for 15.
Did you even see this game or was it through maroon colored glasses??

Hm all I can remember now that I think about it is Pikeville having alot of foul's called against them in the second half of the game, yes I watched the game and don't give me that maroon colored glasses crap.
Pikeville did have a good number of foul's called on them in the 4th if I rememer correctly. Could you get the stat's for foul's called on them in the 3rd and 4th?

[BasketBallonlyfan]

The refs didnt have anything to do with Pikeville losing this game. Pikeville hit a slow spot at the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Pikeville missing free throws was the biggest reason for the loss. The refs did miss some calls, made some they might not should have, but that went both ways. Overall it was a good called game. They called what they seen.

[Panther#42]

The refs didnt have anything to do with Pikeville losing this game. Pikeville hit a slow spot at the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Pikeville missing free throws was the biggest reason for the loss. The refs did miss some calls, made some they might not should have, but that went both ways. Overall it was a good called game. They called what they seen.

IDK how many times i've said this, but, i'll say it again, I never said the ref's play calling cost Pikeville the game. Never did I say "had the ref's not called a crap game Pikeville would have won"
I just said it may have turned out differently, like a closer game where ethier one of the teams could have won by a point or two

[Redneck]

IDK how many times i've said this, but, i'll say it again, I never said the ref's play calling cost Pikeville the game. Never did I say "had the ref's not called a crap game Pikeville would have won"
I just said it may have turned out differently, like a closer game where ethier one of the teams could have won by a point or two

It was a closer game than what the score showed, remember Paintsville hit free throws down the stretch when Pikeville was forced to foul them (that's why Pikeville was called for more fouls in the 4th).

[Panther#42]

It was a closer game than what the score showed, remember Paintsville hit free throws down the stretch when Pikeville was forced to foul them (that's why Pikeville was called for more fouls in the 4th).

Yes Pikeville had some trouble with free-throw shooting, and I know 2-3 foul's late in the fourth was on purpose by Pikeville

[EKY Sportster]

I don't know why everyone thinks Paintsville is supposed to be some super power or something. They are a very talented team, but small and sometimes come out flat. Yes, they are the region favs IMO and if they play their best should be able to beat any 15th Region team. But that doesn't make them invincible. Yes, they could come out pumped and on fire and beat Pikeville 20+ points on a given night. But they could also come out flat and possibly lose to Pikeville on another night. The key thing to remember is that just because they are the most talented team doesn't mean that they will blow everyone out. I expect them to have close games this year and lose some as well. Most teams play their best against them and Paintsville (for whatever reason) sometimes is flat. And if they go and play the way the did last year in the Region, they won't be going to Rupp.

To put everything in perspective, Paintsville should be the favorite in every game they play in the 15th this year. It doesn't mean they will win them all and it doesn't mean that they will blow everyone out either. And lastly, it doesn't mean that they will go to Rupp. The Region champ will have to earn it just like they do every year.

[Redneck]

I don't know why everyone thinks Paintsville is supposed to be some super power or something. They are a very talented team, but small and sometimes come out flat. Yes, they are the region favs IMO and if they play their best should be able to beat any 15th Region team. But that doesn't make them invincible. Yes, they could come out pumped and on fire and beat Pikeville 20+ points on a given night. But they could also come out flat and possibly lose to Pikeville on another night. The key thing to remember is that just because they are the most talented team doesn't mean that they will blow everyone out. I expect them to have close games this year and lose some as well. Most teams play their best against them and Paintsville (for whatever reason) sometimes is flat. And if they go and play the way the did last year in the Region, they won't be going to Rupp.

To put everything in perspective, Paintsville should be the favorite in every game they play in the 15th this year. It doesn't mean they will win them all and it doesn't mean that they will blow everyone out either. And lastly, it doesn't mean that they will go to Rupp. The Region champ will have to earn it just like they do every year.

:High5: Hi-Five man, great post.

[Larry Legend]

I don't know why everyone thinks Paintsville is supposed to be some super power or something. They are a very talented team, but small and sometimes come out flat. Yes, they are the region favs IMO and if they play their best should be able to beat any 15th Region team. But that doesn't make them invincible. Yes, they could come out pumped and on fire and beat Pikeville 20+ points on a given night. But they could also come out flat and possibly lose to Pikeville on another night. The key thing to remember is that just because they are the most talented team doesn't mean that they will blow everyone out. I expect them to have close games this year and lose some as well. Most teams play their best against them and Paintsville (for whatever reason) sometimes is flat. And if they go and play the way the did last year in the Region, they won't be going to Rupp.

To put everything in perspective, Paintsville should be the favorite in every game they play in the 15th this year. It doesn't mean they will win them all and it doesn't mean that they will blow everyone out either. And lastly, it doesn't mean that they will go to Rupp. The Region champ will have to earn it just like they do every year.

I think all the teams at the top of the 15th get the middle of the packs best shot its always like that. To say Paintsville came out flat is a sorry excuse, give Pikeville some credit. Paintsville beat a top 5 team in the region, they should be happy with that alone. I don't know who is going to Rupp all I can do is give my opinions on who the best appears to be so far. Now that I have watched almost all the top teams in the region play I think I know about how they fall as of now. I have seen Paintsville, Pikeville, Belfry, Lawrence, SV, Johnson Central, Betsy Layne, Magoffin, East Ridge, and Sheldon Clark so far.

[3Sportfun]

If the ball had been put in Harmon's hands more often, the outcome of the ballgame might have been different. Not enough team players. IMO.

[TRAIN85]

Hm all I can remember now that I think about it is Pikeville having alot of foul's called against them in the second half of the game, yes I watched the game and don't give me that maroon colored glasses crap.
Pikeville did have a good number of foul's called on them in the 4th if I rememer correctly. Could you get the stat's for foul's called on them in the 3rd and 4th?

Every one of your posts on this thread have said something about the refs making bad calls. Quit with the excuses. Pikeville didn't play good enough to win plain and simple. We can't make excuses and expect people to take us seriously in anything. Let Paintsville think they won by 20 then next time it might be closer. Pikeville held it's own with Paintsville after no one outside of Pikeville gave them a chance. I also don't won't to hear any crap about Paintsville not playing a good game. They have played alot of good competition early and should have been ready. So here is the conclusion: 1) Paintsville/Pikeville wasn't ready to play. 2) Paintsville isn't as good as THEY think they are. 3) Pikeville may be a little better than what people think. NO MORE EXCUSES. Everybody just need to grow up.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

Paintsville plays to the competition, meaning if they play a weaker team they play weak, when they play better teams they play better. It was obvious Paintsville wasn't ready to play, they weren't pumped up or excited like Pikeville was, makes alot of difference. I would say this game was more impressive then a 50+ point victory by Shelby Valley against the worst team in Virginia. :thumpsup:

You say Paintsville played down to Pikeville? Even though the last time they played Paintsville won by 1 point with no time on the clock? A foul was called right at the buzzer, Paintsville got two free throws, made the first then the game was over. It seems like that would be a team to play down to. With the way they played the first half, both teams that is, it seems Paintsville would have been pumped up more for the second half than the first. You dont think they knew at halftime or even at the end of the 1st quarter they was going to be in a war?

[Redneck]

Every one of your posts on this thread have said something about the refs making bad calls. Quit with the excuses. Pikeville didn't play good enough to win plain and simple. We can't make excuses and expect people to take us seriously in anything. Let Paintsville think they won by 20 then next time it might be closer. Pikeville held it's own with Paintsville after no one outside of Pikeville gave them a chance. I also don't won't to hear any crap about Paintsville not playing a good game. They have played alot of good competition early and should have been ready. So here is the conclusion: 1) Paintsville/Pikeville wasn't ready to play. 2) Paintsville isn't as good as THEY think they are. 3) Pikeville may be a little better than what people think. NO MORE EXCUSES. Everybody just need to grow up.

TRAIN, of all people you should know what its like playing a weaker team. You mean to tell me that when you were in high school you actually got pumped up and excited about playing teams like Jenkins, Allen Central etc. (Not saying Pikeville basketball is like Jenkins football) Game's you and everyone else knows you SHOULD win fairly easy are hard to get ready for, especially when you haven't seen them play or know who their main players are.

????Paintsville isn't as good as THEY think they are. I believe the first two games showed how good they are, heck they could have won both of those game had it not been for the big cold streak in both games. Bottom line is, when you are preseason ranked #1 in your region and everyone picks you as the favorite to win it, it's hard to get pumped up and excited for games unless it's a rivalry (JC, Shelby Valley as of late).

I'm not doggin Pikeville, they got some athletes and alot of potential, Bart Williams will have that team locked and loaded ready to pull the trigger come tourney time.

[TRAIN85]

TRAIN, of all people you should know what its like playing a weaker team. You mean to tell me that when you were in high school you actually got pumped up and excited about playing teams like Jenkins, Allen Central etc. (Not saying Pikeville basketball is like Jenkins football) Game's you and everyone else knows you SHOULD win fairly easy are hard to get ready for, especially when you haven't seen them play or know who their main players are.

????Paintsville isn't as good as THEY think they are. I believe the first two games showed how good they are, heck they could have won both of those game had it not been for the big cold streak in both games. Bottom line is, when you are preseason ranked #1 in your region and everyone picks you as the favorite to win it, it's hard to get pumped up and excited for games unless it's a rivalry (JC, Shelby Valley as of late).

I'm not doggin Pikeville, they got some athletes and alot of potential, Bart Williams will have that team locked and loaded ready to pull the trigger come tourney time.

I got up for every game no matter who we played. I didn't care if it was Beechwood or Paintsville or anyone in between. I played hard so I could play half of the game and get the younger kids in to play. Pikeville gave Paintsville all they wanted end of story. No more excuses from either side. The games over and the better team that night won. But don't blame it on not playing hard because it's Pikeville basketball, or because the refs are really mean and wanted to feel in control of the game. i don't want to hear the petty BS excuses that everyone makes. That's why kids now a days aren't as tough as they used to be even 4-5 years ago. For the love of God quit the whining and take the win or the loss for what it is.

[NYY10]

Congrats 2 Paintsville again

[BasketBallonlyfan]

...Paintsville isn't as good as THEY think they are. I believe the first two games showed how good they are, heck they could have won both of those game had it not been for the big cold streak in both games. Bottom line is, when you are preseason ranked #1 in your region and everyone picks you as the favorite to win it, it's hard to get pumped up and excited for games unless it's a rivalry (JC, Shelby Valley as of late)...

That theory might pan out but for the fact that this is the 2nd or 3rd year in a row they have been ranked preseason number 1. The last two years they went home early while someone else went to the big show. Seems like that would make them realize that preseason number 1 really doesnt mean much. Paintsville won because they did play good the whole game where Pikeville had a little lapse and also missed free throws. Paintsville isnt the dominate team that they and the Paintsville fans think they are. That is true this year like it was last year and the year before that. They also should realize that over time, the preseason number 1 team isnt the one who wins the region. So why would they take any team lightly? That includes a team that played them right down to the wire the last time they met on the court. It seems like they would have wanted to prove the last meeting was a fluke

[Big Jim]

Never discount a couple of things here. I didn't see the game, but I know it. I know Paintsville will get everybodies' best shot in the mountains for obvious reasons, and they might not always get as up for these guys as they do them. It's not right, but it happens. In turn, when Paintsville goes up to Lex ready to show something, they aren't taken serious and surprise some people with the fact that they are pretty good.

Pikeville is a very well coached team and Paintsville played on Pikeville's floor. When I say Pikeville is well coached, I mean he's as good as you'll find at the high school level. I really didn't see any of these things talked about and they are true and worth mentioning. that's not to say they decided the game, merely like I said, they can't be discounted.

Oh yeah, one other thing, the refs, lol.

[Hoops Lover]

Think possibly Paintsville is tired of all the hype and pressure that they have to deal with everyday??? They may be mentally fatigued. Looked to me like they were just going thru the motions at Pikeville.

[Larry Legend]

Why is this group so hyped after all? I mean they are good but they don't even have a regional title under their belt. You would think they were three or four time defending champs. I think you should have to win one before everybody bows down to you. Bottom line is Pikeville is about 7 points behind Paintsville at this point. If they played ten times Paintsville will probably win by about that most of the time. Its not because they were flat, no outside factors other than their own fans want them to be dominate, and quite frankly they aren't.

[Big Jim]

Is that all because you say so?

[kyballer]

yeah they are a good team but a bit overated

[Larry Legend]

Why should they be considered world beaters? Because they lost by single digits to a ranked team and double digits to another ranked team? What have they proved, besides that they aren't much better than Pikeville?

[kyballer]

I still dont see how they only won by 7

[Big Jim]

Why should they be considered world beaters? Because they lost by single digits to a ranked team and double digits to another ranked team? What have they proved, besides that they aren't much better than Pikeville?

Did you answer my question with 3 questions? I figured another question was only appropriate.

Furthermore, I could only find the term "world beaters" being used to describe Paintsville in your post.

These guys have officially entered upper classmen status for the first time. They know they have to win. I'm sure they felt like they could've easily made the Sweet 16 last year. However, they didn't and that's the idea this year. Regardless of all that, to a man they have the most talented basketball team in the region this year. That doesn't neccessarily mean they'll win anything, and often times the most talented group doesn't win. If you don't know that...well.

[Larry Legend]

Who has the most talent is debatable its not a certainty, I said earlier I just wasn't very impressed, and thats strictly my opinion. I was just curious as to the reason everyone thinks that Paintsville must have played bad if Pikeville hung with them.

[Panther#42]

Who has the most talent is debatable its not a certainty, I said earlier I just wasn't very impressed, and thats strictly my opinion. I was just curious as to the reason everyone thinks that Paintsville must have played bad if Pikeville hung with them.

Proably because Pikeville's basketball team hasn't been that good as of recent years and maybe this Paintsville team isn't as good as what everyone think's they are

[Big Jim]

Who has the most talent is debatable its not a certainty, I said earlier I just wasn't very impressed, and thats strictly my opinion. I was just curious as to the reason everyone thinks that Paintsville must have played bad if Pikeville hung with them.

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What other team would you debate has more talent top to bottom than Paintsville and why?

That last part is completely different than (paraphrasing) why is paintsville treated like 4 time champion world beaters.

To give a logical possible answer to your new question. How about a road game against a traditional rival? That would explain plenty of close scores in these games and be true. Or, Pikeville's better than many thought? I said some other things in a previous post, as well.

I contend those to be more reasonable than Paintsville not being very good. I could be wrong...I doubt it.

[BasketBallonlyfan]

I have got to ask this. I think Pikeville and Paintsville will meet again in the All A. If the score is like this one or even closer, will the Paintsville fans be saying they played down to Pikeville again?

[The King]

To get into this discussion between Larry Legend and Big Jim... I think you are talking about Paintsville vs. Shelby Valley, and which team is more talented. I know that BasketBallonlyfan has now had a chance to see both teams play (Paintsville vs. Pikeville, and Shelby Valley vs. Powell County). Not saying these were anywhere near equal opponents, but I'd like to hear the opinon of BasketBallonlyfan about which team has more talent between Paintsville and SV and why...