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Open Job: Paintsville
#61
Haven’t heard anything. I don’t think the job has been posted on KHSAA yet. At least I didn’t see it on there Friday.
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#62
With that said, I would love to see my old teammate Brian Melvin get the job. The kids love him, the community loves him. With him I believe you’ll get alot of players who have quit, come back out. I believe some that have mentioned transferring will stay if Melvin gets it. I believe you’ll get back a couple of former good assistants that were on the staff under Chirico.
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#63
(11-26-2024, 03:35 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: You have to believe that the current leader for the job right out of the gate has to be Scotty McCoy. He has head coaching experience, he’s currently on the JC staff, and his dad Chester was just hired as the high school principal.
Don’t see it happening that Scotty will be there he happy being the DC at JC

(11-26-2024, 03:35 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote: You have to believe that the current leader for the job right out of the gate has to be Scotty McCoy. He has head coaching experience, he’s currently on the JC staff, and his dad Chester was just hired as the high school principal.
Don’t see it happening that Scotty will be there he happy being the DC at JC
#64
(11-29-2024, 01:58 AM)billymoore8123 Wrote: I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact
#65
has relentlessly chasing a former assistant under a previously winning staff ever worked out for anyone
#66
(12-03-2024, 12:27 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(11-29-2024, 01:58 AM)billymoore8123 Wrote: I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact
I’d hate to see him leave. That would be a huge pickup for Prestonsburg if he did transfer though.
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#67
(12-03-2024, 12:27 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(11-29-2024, 01:58 AM)billymoore8123 Wrote: I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact
“Tour” lol. So are they offering him NIL also?
#68
(12-03-2024, 10:09 AM)papabear02 Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 12:27 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(11-29-2024, 01:58 AM)billymoore8123 Wrote: I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact
“Tour” lol. So are they offering him NIL also?
A Deal with Pops Chevrolet is the hold up.
#69
The Paintsville situation kind of reminds of Danville. It isn't exactly the same because Danville has way more talent in the system than Paintsville. You replace Joe Chirico who was extremely successful with someone (who while is a solid young offensive coach) has no connection to Paintsville and the community. It reminds me of Danville replacing Clevinger with Mark Peach who was a solid coach but wasn't able to generate excitement in the community or the school. I have no idea how well Brian Melvin would do but it's worth considering because like someone said earlier, I think you would get him plus 2-3 really solid assistant coaches back. That type of coaching staff would get a lot of support from community and probably get a lot of kids out on the field. I think it will be really hard to ever get back to the level of the Chirico era, but they could be more competitive. Because of the inherent limitations at Paintsville if they don't get this hire right, they could fall off a steep cliff.
#70
(11-27-2024, 09:17 AM)ROTC Wrote: Brad Allen would be a great choice!
Absolutely! Great guy with a good football IQ. Heard he doesn't like to pass the pigskin but I'm sure he would for the Tigers.
#71
im fairly certain that if you try to hire another teams coordinator and theyre hoping you do that means you probably should not want that coach lol
#72
(12-03-2024, 11:14 AM)BullyDogs97 Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 09:17 AM)ROTC Wrote: Brad Allen would be a great choice!
Absolutely! Great guy with a good football IQ. Heard he doesn't like to pass the pigskin but I'm sure he would for the Tigers.
Agree 100% and I love Brad, we played in college together. Like I said earlier, I just don’t see him leaving his administration position at Pikeville High School.
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#73
As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
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#74
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
You heard wrong. Brad’s little brother Casey has inquired about the job. Casey coaches the Oline at Breathitt County.
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#75
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
Run right into a wall as a program yeah
#76
(12-03-2024, 05:30 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
Run right into a wall as a program yeah


Not sure where your animosity is coming from. Brad is a quality high school football coach with a strong pedigree of accomplishments. He has won everywhere he has been. Breathitt County, Pikeville College, Belfry, East Ridge, and Pikeville. Like others have mentioned, not sure why he might leave being an administrator at Pikeville for Paintsville....Unsure if there is trouble in paradise, but I always say, I'd rather drive straight to Hell than Pikeville. 

When it comes to the Paintsville program, how far back are they? 12 years ago they lost to Jenkins...Did Hoskins not replenish the pantry after Chirico? Has Johnson Central stockpiled the local talent....Does Martin County and Prestonsburg have anything to do with it? If the trend holds....Could we argue that Paintsville would falter with Chirico had Prestonburg and Martin not have been dumpster fires?
#77
(12-04-2024, 11:30 AM)Real Badman Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 05:30 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
Run right into a wall as a program yeah


Not sure where your animosity is coming from. Brad is a quality high school football coach with a strong pedigree of accomplishments. He has won everywhere he has been. Breathitt County, Pikeville College, Belfry, East Ridge, and Pikeville. Like others have mentioned, not sure why he might leave being an administrator at Pikeville for Paintsville....Unsure if there is trouble in paradise, but I always say, I'd rather drive straight to Hell than Pikeville. 

When it comes to the Paintsville program, how far back are they? 12 years ago they lost to Jenkins...Did Hoskins not replenish the pantry after Chirico? Has Johnson Central stockpiled the local talent....Does Martin County and Prestonsburg have anything to do with it? If the trend holds....Could we argue that Paintsville would falter with Chirico had Prestonburg and Martin not have been dumpster fires?
he has won what
Brad Allen is definitely the reason for all of those wins at belfry and pikeville. poverty programs before he came along honestly….. and winning is definitely what he does I remember him racking up all those wins at East ridge I’m sure there were some quality wins in there……….. not. ill deep dive in it if you want… while I understand it isn’t a good program he probably won less games than David jones did at Phelps and nobody is tripping over themselves to offer him a good job

fact is pikeville wins in spite of him he has consistently had running backs like Birchfield, Anthony, Raines etc… when Anthony wasn’t himself this year he was lost

if play callin gets anymore complicated than running power or inside zone then it all goes to heck for him 

the fact is Paintsville has a chance to be a premiere 1A program alongside pikeville and raceland with the right hire……. Every pikeville fan I know wants Paintsville to hire brad Allen and that should tell you all you need to know………
#78
(12-04-2024, 02:57 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-04-2024, 11:30 AM)Real Badman Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 05:30 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
Run right into a wall as a program yeah


Not sure where your animosity is coming from. Brad is a quality high school football coach with a strong pedigree of accomplishments. He has won everywhere he has been. Breathitt County, Pikeville College, Belfry, East Ridge, and Pikeville. Like others have mentioned, not sure why he might leave being an administrator at Pikeville for Paintsville....Unsure if there is trouble in paradise, but I always say, I'd rather drive straight to Hell than Pikeville. 

When it comes to the Paintsville program, how far back are they? 12 years ago they lost to Jenkins...Did Hoskins not replenish the pantry after Chirico? Has Johnson Central stockpiled the local talent....Does Martin County and Prestonsburg have anything to do with it? If the trend holds....Could we argue that Paintsville would falter with Chirico had Prestonburg and Martin not have been dumpster fires?
he has won what
Brad Allen is definitely the reason for all of those wins at belfry and pikeville. poverty programs before he came along honestly….. and winning is definitely what he does I remember him racking up all those wins at East ridge I’m sure there were some quality wins in there……….. not. ill deep dive in it if you want… while I understand it isn’t a good program he probably won less games than David jones did at Phelps and nobody is tripping over themselves to offer him a good job

fact is pikeville wins in spite of him he has consistently had running backs like Birchfield, Anthony, Raines etc… when Anthony wasn’t himself this year he was lost

if play callin gets anymore complicated than running power or inside zone then it all goes to heck for him 

the fact is Paintsville has a chance to be a premiere 1A program alongside pikeville and raceland with the right hire……. Every pikeville fan I know wants Paintsville to hire brad Allen and that should tell you all you need to know………

Well shoot....Go ahead and send your resume. Lukas surely has some school stipends or booster funds he could throw your way. Matter of fact, why don't you form a committee and replace the whole staff. As you mentioned, the coach doesn't make the program...Which makes total sense because I forgot all about Mac's championships at Pike Central. I recall Sheldon Clark and Harlan and even South Floyd beating Pikeville. How many times did they run IZ or Power? Are you sure it wasn't Duo? Mid Zone? Stretch? Did they run it to the 3t or the 1t? Was it out of 22p, 21p, 11p? What coverage skeleton was primarily shown on P&10? The only "fact is" is that Pikeville got accustomed to winning, and then they didn't. Boyle County effect. Quit crying. Donate more to the Pikeville NIL fund. Maybe all the Pikeville fans could attend some community meetings so there would be more economic development before UPike and Pikeville Methodist Hospital buy the entire city. You would be really sad if kids are forced to attend Central or Valley. 

As for Paintsville, I'd argue they are tanking once more. It might be sometime before they can recoup...Betsy Layne, Johnson Central, Prestonsburg, and Martin County are going to spread that talent even more.
#79
Seems like Real Badman loves him some Pikeville
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(12-04-2024, 03:26 PM)Belichick Wrote: Seems like Real Badman loves him some Pikeville
I lack the ability to love    Confused
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#81
(12-04-2024, 03:17 PM)Real Badman Wrote: Well shoot....Go ahead and send your resume. Lukas surely has some school stipends or booster funds he could throw your way. Matter of fact, why don't you form a committee and replace the whole staff. As you mentioned, the coach doesn't make the program...Which makes total sense because I forgot all about Mac's championships at Pike Central. I recall Sheldon Clark and Harlan and even South Floyd beating Pikeville. How many times did they run IZ or Power? Are you sure it wasn't Duo? Mid Zone? Stretch? Did they run it to the 3t or the 1t? Was it out of 22p, 21p, 11p? What coverage skeleton was primarily shown on P&10? The only "fact is" is that Pikeville got accustomed to winning, and then they didn't. Boyle County effect. Quit crying. Donate more to the Pikeville NIL fund. Maybe all the Pikeville fans could attend some community meetings so there would be more economic development before UPike and Pikeville Methodist Hospital buy the entire city. You would be really sad if kids are forced to attend Central or Valley. 

As for Paintsville, I'd argue they are tanking once more. It might be sometime before they can recoup...Betsy Layne, Johnson Central, Prestonsburg, and Martin County are going to spread that talent even more
i might send my resume to paintsville if they make the right hire...... as far as replacing the whole staff at pikeville if it were up to me i would replace the whole staff with elves because i am from belfry. trust me i want brad allen to remain the offensive coordinator!!! mac definitely struggled at pike central and in his first stint at pikeville but he came back and established that program for 4-5 years and won at least one championship before brad took over as offensive coordinator. good to see you play madden and can name some run concepts too!!! could be any of those but im not sure brad ever felt the need to go that deep in the bag.... i was giving him credit naming two! they ran it at whatever d-line technique they wanted because they have had dudes that can just flat out run it...... lets talk about this year..... did pikeville ever run mesh to try and get braxton or hall into space or a smash concept for easy yards?? i remember a few screens.... once again, extended handoffs..... because theres no concepts that get guys open aside from getting them the ball and letting them make the play. AND I GET IT!!!!!!! youve got talent use it........ but the overwhelming truth is for the last 6 years is that pikeville only wins the games when theyre flat out better than the other team and their guys go make plays.... find me one example of the run game being stifled but brad allen has dialed up passing concepts and schemed out a win and ill gladly change my mind i havent watched every game admittedly but i dont recall a time that has happened?? its been a simple approach hand it to raines hand it to birchfield hand it to anthony and again if it isnt broke dont fix it but any offensive coordinator could do that when the rubber hits the road and the run game isnt dominating it is OVER for the panthers...... anthony wasnt himself this year and pikeville scores 6 points against sayre!!!!!! with a 3 or 4 year starter at quarterback i believe????

lets talk about head coach brad allen while we're here........ head coach at east ridge from 2008-2013, went to belfry as an assistant in 2014 and won a state title as an assistant, then head coach 2015-2017..... in those 9 years youd think a team lead by a winner would win some decent games right??? 29 wins in 9 years (thats 3 per year btw) 65 losses (that's 7 per year)...... 3 seasons of 1 or less wins, 1 season over .500 (6-4), and of those 29 wins NOT A SINGLE ONE came over a team over .500 from kentucky EVER!!!! in 9 whole seasons!! the one season that he went to belfry east ridge went .500 that means in a 10 year stretch they had just as many .500 seasons without brad allen then they did with him and he was the head coach for 9....... never once did he upset a team who was over .500...... never won a single playoff game either.... now again i understand it is hard to win at east ridge and ultimately i do think he did a good job there but to say hes a "winner" is a little crazy he never did anything awe inspiring his best parts of his resume are joining already established programs and winning an assistant and theres nothing wrong with that but youre giving him way too much credit.... i will also add i think his best addition to the pikeville program has been as the o line coach he does well at that he just cant call plays

as for paintsville i think if you hire the right coach you can be competitive in two years..... the tigers went 3-8 in 2013.... then 8-4 in 2014 and 10-3 in 2015 it doesnt take that long.... if brad allen can take the job and do that ill eat my words but i think you have a chance to go out and hire a guy who can excited the program and maybe even take kids from johnson central who isnt exactly setting the world on fire with the jesse peck era (speaking of hiring a guy who had mediocre success at a bad program and thinking being an assistant at a good program would change him.........) 

ill conclude with this...... have you seen a single pikeville fan parent player or coach in any thread clamoring to not lose brad allen? when one of them does maybe ill change my course..... i have no personal anomosity towards brad ive only met him a handful of times in my life but he seems like a VERY nice guy this is is purely from the perspective of a guy who likes football and is cheering for paintsville..... i dont think brad allen is a very good offensive play caller and his head coaching resume is not inspiring for a program who needs a shot in the arm like paintsville but has proven a shot in its arm can change their trajectory.......... again if im wrong ill gladly eat my words.......... but if im the tigers the coordinator at pikeville im throwing my money at IS NOT the offensive one
#82
(12-04-2024, 02:57 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-04-2024, 11:30 AM)Real Badman Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 05:30 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
Run right into a wall as a program yeah


Not sure where your animosity is coming from. Brad is a quality high school football coach with a strong pedigree of accomplishments. He has won everywhere he has been. Breathitt County, Pikeville College, Belfry, East Ridge, and Pikeville. Like others have mentioned, not sure why he might leave being an administrator at Pikeville for Paintsville....Unsure if there is trouble in paradise, but I always say, I'd rather drive straight to Hell than Pikeville. 

When it comes to the Paintsville program, how far back are they? 12 years ago they lost to Jenkins...Did Hoskins not replenish the pantry after Chirico? Has Johnson Central stockpiled the local talent....Does Martin County and Prestonsburg have anything to do with it? If the trend holds....Could we argue that Paintsville would falter with Chirico had Prestonburg and Martin not have been dumpster fires?
he has won what
Brad Allen is definitely the reason for all of those wins at belfry and pikeville. poverty programs before he came along honestly….. and winning is definitely what he does I remember him racking up all those wins at East ridge I’m sure there were some quality wins in there……….. not. ill deep dive in it if you want… while I understand it isn’t a good program he probably won less games than David jones did at Phelps and nobody is tripping over themselves to offer him a good job

fact is pikeville wins in spite of him he has consistently had running backs like Birchfield, Anthony, Raines etc… when Anthony wasn’t himself this year he was lost

if play callin gets anymore complicated than running power or inside zone then it all goes to heck for him 

the fact is Paintsville has a chance to be a premiere 1A program alongside pikeville and raceland with the right hire……. Every pikeville fan I know wants Paintsville to hire brad Allen and that should tell you all you need to know………
You’re obviously from Pikeville and know a lot more people than I do. I did play at Pikeville College with Brad, and I know alot of people in Pikeville myself, I even have family there, but some of you guys on here on BGR are the Pikeville people I know that want Brad to leave. He’s not going anywhere. He may step down from coaching, who knows, but he ain’t leaving his administration position at Pikeville High School. 

Back to the original topic please.
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#83
(12-04-2024, 04:36 PM)Redneck Wrote: You’re obviously from Pikeville and know a lot more people than I do. I did play at Pikeville College with Brad, and I know alot of people in Pikeville myself, I even have family there, but some of you guys on here on BGR are the Pikeville people I know that want Brad to leave. He’s not going anywhere. He may step down from coaching, who knows, but he ain’t leaving his administration position at Pikeville High School. 

Back to the original topic please.
im not from pikeville and we are discussing a candidate that has been talked about for the paintsville job this isnt off topic at all lol
#84
(12-04-2024, 04:38 PM)Khalisimo Wrote:
(12-04-2024, 04:36 PM)Redneck Wrote: You’re obviously from Pikeville and know a lot more people than I do. I did play at Pikeville College with Brad, and I know alot of people in Pikeville myself, I even have family there, but some of you guys on here on BGR are the Pikeville people I know that want Brad to leave. He’s not going anywhere. He may step down from coaching, who knows, but he ain’t leaving his administration position at Pikeville High School. 

Back to the original topic please.
im not from pikeville and we are discussing a candidate that has been talked about for the paintsville job this isnt off topic at all lol
But he’s not a candidate lol. He hasn’t applied for the job and Paintsville hasn’t reached out to him to come take the job. And for someone who ain’t from Pikeville, you sure know an awful lot about them and what they’ve done in every game since Brad became that OC.
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#85
(12-04-2024, 04:46 PM)Redneck Wrote: But he’s not a candidate lol. He hasn’t applied for the job and Paintsville hasn’t reached out to him to come take the job. And for someone who ain’t from Pikeville, you sure know an awful lot about them and what they’ve done in every game since Brad became that OC.
for one the internet and the khsaa app are free it isnt hard to find stats
for two belfry and pikeville are not that far apart so i do know people there
for three who doesnt keep up with their rivals lol

with that said i understand you are saying you dont believe he is going to take the job but some speculated here that he might and i said i didnt think that would be a good hire for paintsville....... btw if i was a pikeville fan who hated brad wouldnt i be saying i thought he should take the job???? lol
#86
(12-03-2024, 05:20 PM)Redneck Wrote:
(12-03-2024, 04:17 PM)mascot05 Wrote: As soon as the school year is over I hear that Brad Allen is locked in for HC job at Paintsville. He has to finish out his year as assistant principal at Pikeville. He has coached all over the mountains. Paintsville better get a good running back if he is hired. Because they’ll run, run, and run some more.
You heard wrong. Brad’s little brother Casey has inquired about the job. Casey coaches the Oline at Breathitt County.
This is what i heard. Casey is looking for the Paintsville HC job. Just wonder if his older brother will follow and maybe even be the HC himself.
#87
(11-26-2024, 02:57 PM)hchs fan Wrote: any names floating around or being told or said frontrunners for the job
Brian Melvin Seems to be the front runner
#88
(12-04-2024, 03:26 PM)Belichick Wrote: Seems like Real Badman loves him some Pikeville
rbm has always had a stiff one for Pikeville and PHS fans. Must be where PHS always beat up on is team when he lived in Pike Co. Poor little thing.
#89
(12-03-2024, 12:27 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(11-29-2024, 01:58 AM)billymoore8123 Wrote: I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact
I don't know about a tour, but he has been interested in possibly transferring to Prestonsburg since last year. I have always heard he would prefer to be a running back, and a backfield with him and Patton would be one of 2A's best.
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(12-05-2024, 12:14 PM)Big Five-0- Wrote:
(12-04-2024, 03:26 PM)Belichick Wrote: Seems like Real Badman loves him some Pikeville
rbm has always had a stiff one for Pikeville and PHS fans. Must be where PHS always beat up on is team when he lived in Pike Co. Poor little thing.


Oof don't give the Panthers that much credit. I hate a lot of things.

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