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10-14-2024, 07:28 AM
Class 1A
1. Pikeville (2-5)
2. Raceland (4-3)
3. Campbellsville (7-0)
4. Sayre (7-0)
5. Hazard (5-3)
6. Bethlehem (5-2)
7. Kentucky County Day (5-2)
8. Newport Central Catholic (4-3)
9. Bishop Brossart (6-1)
10. Caverna (5-2)
Paris, Newport, Ludlow, Frankfort
RPI
1 Campbellsville 1A 2 7 - 0 7 1.20581 .55134 .56966 .78590
2 Bethlehem 1A 2 5 - 2 7 .98423 .63400 .55433 .73268
3 Sayre 1A 5 7 - 0 7 1.06738 .44427 .52945 .68791
4 Bishop Brossart 1A 4 6 - 1 7 .87852 .50583 .61966 .67042
5 Caverna 1A 1 5 - 2 7 .86395 .59407 .50858 .66288
6 Frankfort 1A 5 3 - 3 6 .91786 .46465 .55993 .65186
7 Newport Central Catholic 1A 3 4 - 3 7 .74571 .60704 .58520 .64902
8 Paris 1A 6 4 - 3 7 .67833 .71731 .52255 .64524
9 Kentucky Country Day 1A 2 5 - 2 7 .87734 .46809 .57511 .64343
10 Newport 1A 3 4 - 2 6 .90300 .45963 .55425 .64319
11 Raceland 1A 6 4 - 3 7 .64572 .65926 .57232 .62844
12 Hazard 1A 8 5 - 3 8 .80225 .48871 .57545 .62447
13 Ludlow 1A 4 5 - 2 7 .76029 .54283 .47302 .59800
14 Williamsburg 1A 7 4 - 1 5 .96841 .25007 .53835 .58797
15 Eminence 1A 5 3 - 3 6 .50000 .72276 .47535 .57057
16 Holy Cross (Louisville) 1A 2 3 - 4 7 .65144 .52302 .50323 .56203
17 Nicholas County 1A 6 4 - 4 8 .62075 .54956 .48231 .55430
18 Bellevue 1A 3 4 - 2 6 .72033 .34893 .55398 .54044
19 Pikeville 1A 8 2 - 5 7 .43008 .65898 .52150 .53762
20 Fairview 1A 6 3 - 4 7 .45589 .55274 .45749 .49027
21 Lynn Camp 1A 7 3 - 3 6 .47821 .56293 .38524 .47997
22 Middlesboro 1A 7 4 - 3 7 .57143 .33073 .53484 .47621
23 Ballard Memorial 1A 1 3 - 4 7 .47457 .46808 .48377 .47506
24 Russellville 1A 1 3 - 4 7 .49595 .43573 .46637 .46600
25 Holy Cross (Covington) 1A 4 2 - 5 7 .26703 .66614 .41072 .44983
26 Paintsville 1A 8 2 - 6 8 .28741 .55003 .48981 .44005
27 Fulton County 1A 1 1 - 4 5 .30401 .47461 .51414 .42676
28 Dayton 1A 3 1 - 6 7 .16424 .53813 .45919 .38359
29 Pineville 1A 7 0 - 7 7 .00000 .61953 .47020 .35790
30 Harlan 1A 7 1 - 6 7 .14286 .43149 .43056 .33019
31 Berea 1A 5 0 - 7 7 .00000 .58094 .40223 .32400
32 Trimble County 1A 4 0 - 7 7 .00000 .52034 .45323 .31809
https://khsaa.org/rpi
1. Pikeville (2-5)
2. Raceland (4-3)
3. Campbellsville (7-0)
4. Sayre (7-0)
5. Hazard (5-3)
6. Bethlehem (5-2)
7. Kentucky County Day (5-2)
8. Newport Central Catholic (4-3)
9. Bishop Brossart (6-1)
10. Caverna (5-2)
Paris, Newport, Ludlow, Frankfort
RPI
1 Campbellsville 1A 2 7 - 0 7 1.20581 .55134 .56966 .78590
2 Bethlehem 1A 2 5 - 2 7 .98423 .63400 .55433 .73268
3 Sayre 1A 5 7 - 0 7 1.06738 .44427 .52945 .68791
4 Bishop Brossart 1A 4 6 - 1 7 .87852 .50583 .61966 .67042
5 Caverna 1A 1 5 - 2 7 .86395 .59407 .50858 .66288
6 Frankfort 1A 5 3 - 3 6 .91786 .46465 .55993 .65186
7 Newport Central Catholic 1A 3 4 - 3 7 .74571 .60704 .58520 .64902
8 Paris 1A 6 4 - 3 7 .67833 .71731 .52255 .64524
9 Kentucky Country Day 1A 2 5 - 2 7 .87734 .46809 .57511 .64343
10 Newport 1A 3 4 - 2 6 .90300 .45963 .55425 .64319
11 Raceland 1A 6 4 - 3 7 .64572 .65926 .57232 .62844
12 Hazard 1A 8 5 - 3 8 .80225 .48871 .57545 .62447
13 Ludlow 1A 4 5 - 2 7 .76029 .54283 .47302 .59800
14 Williamsburg 1A 7 4 - 1 5 .96841 .25007 .53835 .58797
15 Eminence 1A 5 3 - 3 6 .50000 .72276 .47535 .57057
16 Holy Cross (Louisville) 1A 2 3 - 4 7 .65144 .52302 .50323 .56203
17 Nicholas County 1A 6 4 - 4 8 .62075 .54956 .48231 .55430
18 Bellevue 1A 3 4 - 2 6 .72033 .34893 .55398 .54044
19 Pikeville 1A 8 2 - 5 7 .43008 .65898 .52150 .53762
20 Fairview 1A 6 3 - 4 7 .45589 .55274 .45749 .49027
21 Lynn Camp 1A 7 3 - 3 6 .47821 .56293 .38524 .47997
22 Middlesboro 1A 7 4 - 3 7 .57143 .33073 .53484 .47621
23 Ballard Memorial 1A 1 3 - 4 7 .47457 .46808 .48377 .47506
24 Russellville 1A 1 3 - 4 7 .49595 .43573 .46637 .46600
25 Holy Cross (Covington) 1A 4 2 - 5 7 .26703 .66614 .41072 .44983
26 Paintsville 1A 8 2 - 6 8 .28741 .55003 .48981 .44005
27 Fulton County 1A 1 1 - 4 5 .30401 .47461 .51414 .42676
28 Dayton 1A 3 1 - 6 7 .16424 .53813 .45919 .38359
29 Pineville 1A 7 0 - 7 7 .00000 .61953 .47020 .35790
30 Harlan 1A 7 1 - 6 7 .14286 .43149 .43056 .33019
31 Berea 1A 5 0 - 7 7 .00000 .58094 .40223 .32400
32 Trimble County 1A 4 0 - 7 7 .00000 .52034 .45323 .31809
https://khsaa.org/rpi
10-14-2024, 07:36 AM
I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
10-14-2024, 08:11 AM
(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
Here is my philosophy....... If you are going to be the man, you got to beat the man... I know what you mean Patriot1!! Great Post!
[Video: http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s]
10-14-2024, 09:06 AM
Top heavy in those first 3. Sayre a notch below and then the rest. Agree with Bull that Campbellsville is going to have to beat Raceland and/or Pikeville to show they belong up there. Beating up on weaker teams doesn’t help you much. They have looked sloppy at times even doing that. They definitely have the talent and the coaching to be there but they are going to have to beat somebody. They get a test last game of the regular season against Hart County. The playoffs will be interesting because of how the RPI could shake out. Raceland and Pikeville all but assured of being on the road in the semis and maybe even the quarters. Pikeville has the best team especially when healthy but losing their best WR hurt. They still have plenty of talent to get it done but speaking of sloppy, they have plenty to clean up themselves.
10-14-2024, 09:08 AM
(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinionI agree with Bull just based off competition alone. Raceland and Pikeville have played an entirely different kind of schedule than anyone else in class A. You could flop Raceland and Cville if you wanted but you can’t put Cville at number one because all they’ve proven is they can go unbeaten playing a weak schedule. I’d say it’s Pikeville then Raceland, Cville and Sayer battling it out for 2-4 then there is nobody else
10-14-2024, 09:18 AM
New Cath has a 4-3 record to edit that change in there.
10-14-2024, 09:40 AM
10-14-2024, 09:41 AM
(10-14-2024, 08:11 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
Here is my philosophy....... If you are going to be the man, you got to beat the man... I know what you mean Patriot1!! Great Post!
[Video: http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s]
If Campbellsville wasnt #1 in RPI you might have a point, but they do so....................
10-14-2024, 09:45 AM
(10-14-2024, 09:41 AM)plantmanky Wrote:(10-14-2024, 08:11 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
Here is my philosophy....... If you are going to be the man, you got to beat the man... I know what you mean Patriot1!! Great Post!
[Video: http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s]
If Campbellsville wasnt #1 in RPI you might have a point, but they do so....................
RPI and strength of schedule 2 different things. Campbellsville has played all horrible teams + a decent Somerset team.
10-14-2024, 10:02 AM
(10-14-2024, 09:41 AM)plantmanky Wrote:(10-14-2024, 08:11 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
Here is my philosophy....... If you are going to be the man, you got to beat the man... I know what you mean Patriot1!! Great Post!
[Video: http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s]
If Campbellsville wasnt #1 in RPI you might have a point, but they do so....................
In Class 3A Rockcastle was number 1 up to this week in RPI and now dropped to #2 this week in RPI, who you taking Rockcastle over Central, Lex Catholic, and Week 1-7 CAL, Belfry and Bell County??????? I can't, I have to look past the RPI who rewards teams for manipulated scheduling but come playoffs are like fall leaves...Thats how I look at it. Campbellsville is a legit top 3 team and arguably may be the top team but I'll hold to the view that until they beat one of the top 2 teams in 1A and if it plays out, they will have a chance to do so. So will Rockcastle in 3A. They will have a chance to validate their RPI ranking before long. Pikeville schedules tuff for a 1A team and therefor because of all the non-rewarding points in the win column for tuff schedules gets you nothing with RPI. Lexington Catholic is another 3A team who gets drilled with a tuff schedule and so does Central. Ashland is another team that comes to mind in Class 4A that has to beat Johnson Central before you can put them over Johnson Central. They will have a chance in the last game of regular season to prove if they are better. I see your RPI point though, but sometimes RPI is a false representation of who is actually the top team.
10-14-2024, 11:18 AM
I would put Campbellsville no lower than 2.
10-14-2024, 11:46 AM
Had Raceland and Pikeville been able to win one of their tougher games, (excluding their head to head match up), Campbellsville wouldn’t even be in the conversation for the number 1 spot, imo. That being said they played the same schedule last year and then played Pikeville closer than anyone else in the playoffs. So there is definitely an argument for them to be at the number two spot. But, no one in 1A has beaten Pikeville since Raceland did in the regular season match up last year. So imo, Pikeville is the #1 team and Raceland and Cville are 2A and 2B. Sayre struggled to stop the run against a mediocre Bracken County team. So I don’t think they have the defensive ability to keep from either of the top 3 from dominating TOP. Until they can run the ball and stop the run effectively, they are a few scores behind those 3. These district games don’t really tell us much either as I expect the top three to run through their districts. The regular season ends with Raceland at LCA and Cville at Hart Co. I don’t expect the Boyd/Pikeville game to be super competitive beyond 2 quarters. So from here on out, it’s hard for me to put anyone above Pikeville until they have a bad loss or bad game against a single A opponent moving forward. As for the RPI…as bad as it is and as much as it sucks that good teams get punished by playing hard schedules, the last 3 years it has had the top 3 or 4 teams in the semis, imo. And at the end of the day, they don’t give RPI championship trophies.
10-14-2024, 11:51 AM
(10-14-2024, 10:02 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:I disagree about Ashland. I believe that a good case can be made for ranking Ashland above Johnson Central. I consider Johnson Central's win over Ashland last season an upset. Ashland has lost only one game this season to a very good Harvest Prep team from Ohio and they will be playing Johnson Central at home to end the regular season. The fact that Johnson Central upset Ashland last season will have no bearing on this season's game. The two teams have beaten common opponents by similar scores. JC has a very good chance of winning the game against Ashland, but a win by the Tomcats should not shock anybody.(10-14-2024, 09:41 AM)plantmanky Wrote:(10-14-2024, 08:11 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
Here is my philosophy....... If you are going to be the man, you got to beat the man... I know what you mean Patriot1!! Great Post!
[Video: http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s]
If Campbellsville wasnt #1 in RPI you might have a point, but they do so....................
In Class 3A Rockcastle was number 1 up to this week in RPI and now dropped to #2 this week in RPI, who you taking Rockcastle over Central, Lex Catholic, and Week 1-7 CAL, Belfry and Bell County??????? I can't, I have to look past the RPI who rewards teams for manipulated scheduling but come playoffs are like fall leaves...Thats how I look at it. Campbellsville is a legit top 3 team and arguably may be the top team but I'll hold to the view that until they beat one of the top 2 teams in 1A and if it plays out, they will have a chance to do so. So will Rockcastle in 3A. They will have a chance to validate their RPI ranking before long. Pikeville schedules tuff for a 1A team and therefor because of all the non-rewarding points in the win column for tuff schedules gets you nothing with RPI. Lexington Catholic is another 3A team who gets drilled with a tuff schedule and so does Central. Ashland is another team that comes to mind in Class 4A that has to beat Johnson Central before you can put them over Johnson Central. They will have a chance in the last game of regular season to prove if they are better. I see your RPI point though, but sometimes RPI is a false representation of who is actually the top team.
I can see a good case either way, but I would probably rank Ashland above Johnson Central at this point in the season because they have one fewer losses and the winning margins over common opponents is a wash.
10-14-2024, 12:17 PM
(10-14-2024, 11:51 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(10-14-2024, 10:02 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:I disagree about Ashland. I believe that a good case can be made for ranking Ashland above Johnson Central. I consider Johnson Central's win over Ashland last season an upset. Ashland has lost only one game this season to a very good Harvest Prep team from Ohio and they will be playing Johnson Central at home to end the regular season. The fact that Johnson Central upset Ashland last season will have no bearing on this season's game. The two teams have beaten common opponents by similar scores. JC has a very good chance of winning the game against Ashland, but a win by the Tomcats should not shock anybody.(10-14-2024, 09:41 AM)plantmanky Wrote:(10-14-2024, 08:11 AM)Bull got out! Wrote:(10-14-2024, 07:36 AM)Patriot1 Wrote: I hate to second guess Bull because of his knowledge and understanding of football but personally I would put Campbellsville at #1 hope it don’t work out that way but just my opinion
Here is my philosophy....... If you are going to be the man, you got to beat the man... I know what you mean Patriot1!! Great Post!
[Video: http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s]
If Campbellsville wasnt #1 in RPI you might have a point, but they do so....................
In Class 3A Rockcastle was number 1 up to this week in RPI and now dropped to #2 this week in RPI, who you taking Rockcastle over Central, Lex Catholic, and Week 1-7 CAL, Belfry and Bell County??????? I can't, I have to look past the RPI who rewards teams for manipulated scheduling but come playoffs are like fall leaves...Thats how I look at it. Campbellsville is a legit top 3 team and arguably may be the top team but I'll hold to the view that until they beat one of the top 2 teams in 1A and if it plays out, they will have a chance to do so. So will Rockcastle in 3A. They will have a chance to validate their RPI ranking before long. Pikeville schedules tuff for a 1A team and therefor because of all the non-rewarding points in the win column for tuff schedules gets you nothing with RPI. Lexington Catholic is another 3A team who gets drilled with a tuff schedule and so does Central. Ashland is another team that comes to mind in Class 4A that has to beat Johnson Central before you can put them over Johnson Central. They will have a chance in the last game of regular season to prove if they are better. I see your RPI point though, but sometimes RPI is a false representation of who is actually the top team.
I can see a good case either way, but I would probably rank Ashland above Johnson Central at this point in the season because they have one fewer losses and the winning margins over common opponents is a wash.
McCoart back this year means JC should win again. JC's pass defense against Ashland last year was atrocious. JC run game will be dominant, can the defense get stops on Strader? Should be a great game.
10-14-2024, 01:45 PM
Ashland is a great team but when I watch them on film, they look small on the lines. I think they’ll have a very difficult time stopping JC. On the flip side, Ashland does have a good QB and some solid weapons on offense to move the ball against JC through the air. But Ashland isn’t Corbin. JC wins if they are somewhat healthy and don’t cough it up several times.
Since this is 1A post, I would be fine with Campbellsville at 1. Good team but I agree with Bull. Gotta beat someone with a pulse in the playoffs. Rankings at this point are just for us to argue about and the best team doesn’t always win. That’s why they play them all on the field instead of on paper.
Since this is 1A post, I would be fine with Campbellsville at 1. Good team but I agree with Bull. Gotta beat someone with a pulse in the playoffs. Rankings at this point are just for us to argue about and the best team doesn’t always win. That’s why they play them all on the field instead of on paper.
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