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Final 

Reed Shepherd 45pts an became the all time leading scorer in 13th

[Old School Hound]

Embarrassing. If Clay is going to be at the top of the region next year like some suggested , this region is in the sh!tter !!!!

[fansville]

Embarrassing.  If Clay is going to be at the top of the region next year like some suggested , this region is in the sh!tter !!!!

I could be wrong but I don’t see them even being in the top 3 to 5 of the region next year let alone top dog.

[Old School Hound]

Embarrassing.  If Clay is going to be at the top of the region next year like some suggested , this region is in the sh!tter !!!!

I could be wrong but I don’t see them even being in the top 3 to 5 of the region next year let alone top dog.

I tend to think the same thing but a couple of folks mentioned they were headed to the top. At least they are better thn last season. I think Redbird was the only team they were better than last seaason. To be fair, though, North is just on another level than the rest of the region this year.  Still, a 47 pt-loss in the district finals is highly embarrassing.  Bob Keith rolled over tonight.

[Playcaller66]

Embarrassing.  If Clay is going to be at the top of the region next year like some suggested , this region is in the sh!tter !!!!

I could be wrong but I don’t see them even being in the top 3 to 5 of the region next year let alone top dog.

I tend to think the same thing but a couple of folks mentioned they were headed to the top. At least they are better thn last season. I think Redbird was the only team they were better than last seaason. To be fair, though, North is just on another level than the rest of the region this year.  Still, a 47 pt-loss in the district finals is highly embarrassing.  Bob Keith rolled over tonight.

A loss is a loss and the Hounds got another one tonight when it counted. Someone should mention that Bo Roaden is available and I know without a doubt he can sit in a chair every bit as good as the others. The Hounds are loaded so WHATS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE?

[DukeBoy]

Bobby Keith would be recruiting some players after he rolled over.

[Spoozer12]

Nothing will change at Clay until changes are made and it's going to need to be a whole lot more than a gym renovation, it's got to be an attitude and outlook renovation by those in leadership. By this time next week we'll know what the future of Clay County Basketball holds.

[BUFFALO]

Nothing will change at Clay until changes are made and it's going to need to be a whole lot more than a gym renovation, it's got to be an attitude and outlook renovation by those in leadership.  By this time next week we'll know what the future of Clay County Basketball holds.

Is this the worst loss in the history of Clay County BB ?

[Spoozer12]

I'm sure, I mean to loose by 20 is one thing, 30 another, 47 no words, no excuses, zero, one would think they could have played stall ball and at least held the gap under 40. In the 3 combined meetings North Laurel beat Clay 107 points. Now the question is can anyone in the 13th play within 20 points of NL?

Scores
1-6-23. 94-64
1-20-23. 94-64. (Same Score WOW)
2-24-23. 102-55

[Old School Hound]

I'm sure, I mean to loose by 20 is one thing, 30 another, 47 no words, no excuses, zero, one would think they could have played stall ball and at least held the gap under 40.  In the 3 combined meetings North Laurel beat Clay 107 points.  Now the question is can anyone in the 13th play within 20 points of NL?

Scores
1-6-23. 94-64
1-20-23.  94-64. (Same Score WOW)
2-24-23.  102-55

20... yes .  But I don't know how much closer. South, with their style of play, could play North within 12 or 15.  Maybe HC or Corbin on a really good night s well. North should roll at the Arena.  Rupp...another story, altogether.


As you said, no excuse to lose by 47, though.

[Cactus Jack]

Bobby Keith would be recruiting some players after he rolled over.

Bobby Keith was also one of the best strategists/tacticians and motivators to ever coach in Kentucky. Lets give him a little credit.

I don't know of any significant transfers during his dominant runs during the 70's and 80's. He went to back to back finals with a team of entirely local kids at a school that didn't have a huge student population. If there was an impact transfer before 1989, I'm unsure of who it'd have been.

There were some players in the 90's who found their way there (I'll give you a hint: most actually had family in the community and/or very deep ties to the area), but it isn't as if it's unheard of that a program that's reached the level he'd gotten the program to would have families coming to them in hopes of giving their children opportunities and exposure that they might not have gotten otherwise. I don't know that this is that unique for any program-- if it were your kid you might see it differently.

[HCS]

Bobby Keith would be recruiting some players after he rolled over.

Bobby Keith was also one of the best strategists/tacticians and motivators to ever coach in Kentucky. Lets give him a little credit.

I don't know of any significant transfers during his dominant runs during the 70's and 80's. He went to back to back finals with a team of entirely local kids at a school that didn't have a huge student population. If there was an impact transfer before 1989, I'm unsure of who it'd have been.

There were some players in the 90's who found their way there (I'll give you a hint: most actually had family in the community and/or very deep ties to the area), but it isn't as if it's unheard of that a program that's reached the level he'd gotten the program to would have families coming to them in hopes of giving their children opportunities and exposure that they might not have gotten otherwise. I don't know that this is that unique for any program-- if it were your kid you might see it differently.

Keith was a great coach - one of the best all-time. Clay wasn't exactly a small school then though. I think they had something like 1,200 at one point.
I think Woody Asher played at Red Bird before helping Clay win the region in 85 and 86. My guess is Cumberland and Cawood would have won those two years if not for adding Asher. Both games came down to the last minute.

[Cactus Jack]

Bobby Keith would be recruiting some players after he rolled over.

Bobby Keith was also one of the best strategists/tacticians and motivators to ever coach in Kentucky. Lets give him a little credit.

I don't know of any significant transfers during his dominant runs during the 70's and 80's. He went to back to back finals with a team of entirely local kids at a school that didn't have a huge student population. If there was an impact transfer before 1989, I'm unsure of who it'd have been.

There were some players in the 90's who found their way there (I'll give you a hint: most actually had family in the community and/or very deep ties to the area), but it isn't as if it's unheard of that a program that's reached the level he'd gotten the program to would have families coming to them in hopes of giving their children opportunities and exposure that they might not have gotten otherwise. I don't know that this is that unique for any program-- if it were your kid you might see it differently.

Keith was a great coach - one of the best all-time. Clay wasn't exactly a small school then though. I think they had something like 1,200 at one point.
I think Woody Asher played at Red Bird before helping Clay win the region in 85 and 86. My guess is Cumberland and Cawood would have won those two years if not for adding Asher. Both games came down to the last minute.

Good point. I think the ~1,200 was in the late 90s. Might have been a similar enrollment at other times too though, but I was thinking that they were 3A forever and the jump to 4A came later on and didn't last very long. Clay County is definitely one of the bigger schools in the 13th and the reference to student population was more of an allusion to the teams out in the state that they were able to compete with. Know what your saying about Woody Asher, but Asher isn't exactly an uncommon last name in Clay or Bell County and Redbird is in Clay. Technically a transfer that I'd forgotten about and I won't dispute that, but don't really think of it any differently than a kid going from Harlan Independent to Cawood or from Barbourville to Knox Central. The games you mentioned do most likely have very different results without him.

[nedreader]

Must have been a bad enough loss for the Clay coach to tap out. Did he quit after the game?

[Bull got out!]

Must have been a bad enough loss for the Clay coach to tap out.  Did he quit after the game?

It’s awful quiet in Manchester.

[jamesclay]

Did Clay County's coach walk off the court and leave his team out there?

[Old School Hound]

Must have been a bad enough loss for the Clay coach to tap out.  Did he quit after the game?

It’s awful quiet in Manchester.

I think Glenn Gray must be too sexy for Manchester. Lot of folks seem to be jealous of that guy.

[Bull got out!]

Must have been a bad enough loss for the Clay coach to tap out.  Did he quit after the game?

It’s awful quiet in Manchester.

I think Glenn Gray must be too sexy for Manchester. Lot of folks seem to be jealous of that guy.

Glenn is a nice guy! I have known him for years. He is kinda like Dick Clark, he hasn't changed in years. Looks the same ever since I first met him.

[nedreader]

He is a “popular” guy in surrounding counties too. That’s why people are wondering if he might be taking his talents on the road to another 49th district team. NL? What about Jackson Co??

[Old School Hound]

Must have been a bad enough loss for the Clay coach to tap out.  Did he quit after the game?

It’s awful quiet in Manchester.

I think Glenn Gray must be too sexy for Manchester. Lot of folks seem to be jealous of that guy.

Glenn is a nice guy! I have known him for years. He is kinda like Dick Clark, he hasn't changed in years. Looks the same ever since I first met him.

I don't know him but he seems like a quality human being. I like the way he carries himself on the sidelines . Glenn & his kids represent their school very well, imo.

[nedreader]

He appears very calm on the sidelines I agree. Kind of like he’s trying to figure out what’s going on and is lost in the moment ?

[Diablo]

Glen Gray is a great coach. Just don’t have the talent the other schools have right now.

[Old School Hound]

Glen Gray is a great coach.  Just don’t have the talent the other schools have right now.

Agree .  That's the bottom line.  I don't think that there are five better coaches in the 13th than Gray.

[Grannyshot]

Question: Can Coach Gray salvage this season with a win over Barbourville to advance the Region Semi's?

[Old School Hound]

Question: Can Coach Gray salvage this season with a win over Barbourville to advance the Region Semi's?

I think it would pretty much exceed expectations if they advance to the semis.  They have a good shot.

[nedreader]

Rumor is he quit/walked out on the team last week after district championship. Maybe it’ll be twisted into he did it as motivation for the team…LOL. Clown show in Manchester

[Old School Hound]

Rumor is he quit/walked out on the team last week after district championship.  Maybe it’ll be twisted into he did it as motivation for the team…LOL.  Clown show in Manchester

Maybe it will work. Maybe the kids needed something to get their attention.  Back in the early 60's , Corbin football coach, Walt Green, did the following. He was talking to his team in the locker room prior to a huge game with powerful Louisville Manual. Someone walked in and handed Walt what appeared to be a telegram. Walt read it. looked shaken, dropped the telegram on the floor and walked out of the locker room.  Someone went over and picked up the telegram and then informed the players of the sad news that Coach Green's mother had passed away. The kids were extra fired up to win the big game for their coach who was absent from the sidelines on the day. However the telegram was a fake. It was all a ruse by the coach to light a fire under his kids. It worked. Corbin defeated the Louisville powerhouse 46-34. Unbeknownst to his players, Coach Green watched the game from the press box.

Maybe Coach Gray is a master psychologist like Walt Green.

No one has substantiated the claim that Coach Gray walked out. Sounds like just rumors(or lies). I'm sure Coach has the best interest of his kids in mind in whatever he does. I don't know him but he seems like that kind of guy.

[nedreader]

Man, talk about taking the thread off topic. Geez…Go Redhounds, hope Bert King or Frank Selvie win MVP of the 13th region tournament this year

[Old School Hound]

Man, talk about taking the thread off topic.  Geez…Go Redhounds, hope Bert King or Frank Selvie win MVP of the 13th region tournament this year

Ah, a Bert King reference.  Transferred to Corbin from Middlesboro  and played for the Hounds in the late '80's  Never thought I'd hear his name on here.  You get  a "like" from me for that one.

[nedreader]

If all it takes is beating B’Ville in the quarter finals to “salvage” the season the Manchester faithful are in way worse shape than people thought.