[Cardfan1]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist?

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

[Hoot Gibson]

I am for anything that benefits our children and our elderly and average American families.  As much as I despised Trump,  if he had proposed the ones you mentioned, I would have been for their passage. The current president's proposals are pretty bold and almost Rooseveltian or Johnsonian in scope and will be paid for by the wealthiest of the wealthy. However, they are pretty common sense and needed as well. Average Americans, middle class Americans, regardless of political persuasion or political hatreds, should advocate for proposals that help Average American families and families that are hurting. To borrow from Miss Lindsey, if you can't get behind American families who are hurting, maybe you need to do some soul searching and self-evaluation. Maybe check your Christian moniker at the door . What Would Jesus Do? What Would Joe Do?  I think Jesus and Joe would be in one accord on these kind of proposals. Let's cast our hatreds aside and get behind a president who really does care about helping your family and mine. That's a nice change from the last few years.

None of these programs will be "paid for" - not by the wealthy, not by anybody. China Joe, the influence peddler and traitor, along with his accomplices in Congress are simply piling debt upon debt to buy the votes of simpletons. What Democrats are doing is playing Russian roulette with our nation's debt. The odds of our entire economy collapsing while a Democrat or a Republican is in the White House is probably about even. It is an extremely irresponsible and cynical agenda. Our national debt will reach a tipping point and both parties understand that fact. Democrats has simply decided to buy as many votes as possible with new give away programs before we reach that point.

As interest on the national debt soars as a percentage of federal expenditures, the inflation rate will soar and our government will no longer be able to borrow enough money to pay for all of the idiotic programs that Democrats seek to create.

Speaking of the national debt, Trump's tax cuts are expected to add 1.5 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

"I want to take a look at those tax cuts," Wallace told Cassidy during an interview on Fox News Sunday. "According to the Tax Policy Center, the average first year tax cut for a household making less than $25,000—the average tax cut was just $60. The average tax cut for a household making $3.4 million was $193,000. And contrary to talk that it will pay for itself, the Trump tax cuts are now projected to add $1.5 trillion to the deficit over 10 years," Wallace explained.

Socialists consistently overestimate the impact of tax cuts on budget deficits. They assume that tax cuts do nothing to grow the economy, a notion that has been disproved time and again throughout American history. Tax cuts have often resulted in increases in tax revenue because of economic expansion but leftists love to ignore this fact. Did you expect the Biden administration to provide an objective analysis of the Trump tax cuts?

Commrade Quooter Consumer spending what drives the economy not stock buy backs also government spending.

The world according to Twin Ticks. High corporate tax rates are good. Government spending fuels economic growth. It would be a waste of time for me to explain why Biden's proposed tax hikes, which would return American corporations to the top of the list of most heavily taxed on the planet, will place American manufacturers at a serious competitive disadvantage. I could also explain to you why consumer spending on Chinese products is much less beneficial to the American economy than spending on goods and services produced by American citizens with operations in this country. But such explanations are wasted on you, Twin Ticks. China Joe will tell you all you need or want to know about economics. As a lifetime career politician, you can be sure that China Joe and the CCP know what is best for you.

[vector#1]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

I would rather be a socialist than a Kool-Aid Drinking member of the Dear Leader's Flock

[Hoot Gibson]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

Twin Ticks asks himself to validate his opinion again. Ain't that precious?

[Cardfan1]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

Twin Ticks asks himself to validate his opinion again. Ain't that precious?

You’ve haven’t been on as much TRT has been answering for you. it’s been about the same. 

I told you.  My other account is a Trump bootlicker like you.  You guys are friends.

[TheRealThing]

Hoot Gibson

China Joe Biden just proposed trillions of dollars in new spending for new entitlement programs and the communists/nazis who frequent this forum are attacking Reagan over his deficit spending, which resulting in this nation winning the Cold War. I remember Jimmy Carter and I lived through his misery index. Ronald Reagan earned a spot (but there is no room left) on Mount Rushmore for relieving the suffering in this country following the worst U.S. president in American history up until that time. You guys are not content with lying about the current state of affairs, you are constantly repeating the lies of the past as if you can change history. The past is the past and no amount of your lies will change it. Try predicting the future based on the irresponsible actions of the politicians for whom you voted. It is not too late too change the future.
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Do you remember the once popular saying 'no wise cracks from the peanut gallery?'

These guys got nothing but wise cracks to offer to any topic because devoid of real world experience, they're basically clueless.

[vector#1]

None of these programs will be "paid for" - not by the wealthy, not by anybody. China Joe, the influence peddler and traitor, along with his accomplices in Congress are simply piling debt upon debt to buy the votes of simpletons. What Democrats are doing is playing Russian roulette with our nation's debt. The odds of our entire economy collapsing while a Democrat or a Republican is in the White House is probably about even. It is an extremely irresponsible and cynical agenda. Our national debt will reach a tipping point and both parties understand that fact. Democrats has simply decided to buy as many votes as possible with new give away programs before we reach that point.

As interest on the national debt soars as a percentage of federal expenditures, the inflation rate will soar and our government will no longer be able to borrow enough money to pay for all of the idiotic programs that Democrats seek to create.

Speaking of the national debt, Trump's tax cuts are expected to add 1.5 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

"I want to take a look at those tax cuts," Wallace told Cassidy during an interview on Fox News Sunday. "According to the Tax Policy Center, the average first year tax cut for a household making less than $25,000—the average tax cut was just $60. The average tax cut for a household making $3.4 million was $193,000. And contrary to talk that it will pay for itself, the Trump tax cuts are now projected to add $1.5 trillion to the deficit over 10 years," Wallace explained.

Socialists consistently overestimate the impact of tax cuts on budget deficits. They assume that tax cuts do nothing to grow the economy, a notion that has been disproved time and again throughout American history. Tax cuts have often resulted in increases in tax revenue because of economic expansion but leftists love to ignore this fact. Did you expect the Biden administration to provide an objective analysis of the Trump tax cuts?

Commrade Quooter Consumer spending what drives the economy not stock buy backs also government spending.

The world according to Twin Ticks. High corporate tax rates are good. Government spending fuels economic growth. It would be a waste of time for me to explain why Biden's proposed tax hikes, which would return American corporations to the top of the list of most heavily taxed on the planet, will place American manufacturers at a serious competitive disadvantage. I could also explain to you why consumer spending on Chinese products is much less beneficial to the American economy than spending on goods and services produced by American citizens with operations in this country. But such explanations are wasted on you, Twin Ticks. China Joe will tell you all you need or want to know about economics. As a lifetime career politician, you can be sure that China Joe and the CCP know what is best for you.

Commrade Quooter I seen you dodged the 1.2 trillion the GOVERNMENT spends for national defense every year that's a lot of jobs.
That's not counting all the state, county, and local government jobs.
And you still won't say the economy is driven by the consumer. Commrade Quooter I thought the Russians was slow but after listening to you and Commrade TRT I was giving you too much credit

[TheRealThing]

Hoot Gibson

China Joe Biden just proposed trillions of dollars in new spending for new entitlement programs and the communists/nazis who frequent this forum are attacking Reagan over his deficit spending, which resulting in this nation winning the Cold War. I remember Jimmy Carter and I lived through his misery index. Ronald Reagan earned a spot (but there is no room left) on Mount Rushmore for relieving the suffering in this country following the worst U.S. president in American history up until that time. You guys are not content with lying about the current state of affairs, you are constantly repeating the lies of the past as if you can change history. The past is the past and no amount of your lies will change it. Try predicting the future based on the irresponsible actions of the politicians for whom you voted. It is not too late too change the future.
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Do you remember the once popular saying 'no wise cracks from the peanut gallery?'These guys got nothing but wise cracks to offer to any topic because devoid of real world experience, they're basically clueless.  The past is the past, you nailed it. Their lies will catch up with them.

[Cardfan1]

None of these programs will be "paid for" - not by the wealthy, not by anybody. China Joe, the influence peddler and traitor, along with his accomplices in Congress are simply piling debt upon debt to buy the votes of simpletons. What Democrats are doing is playing Russian roulette with our nation's debt. The odds of our entire economy collapsing while a Democrat or a Republican is in the White House is probably about even. It is an extremely irresponsible and cynical agenda. Our national debt will reach a tipping point and both parties understand that fact. Democrats has simply decided to buy as many votes as possible with new give away programs before we reach that point.

As interest on the national debt soars as a percentage of federal expenditures, the inflation rate will soar and our government will no longer be able to borrow enough money to pay for all of the idiotic programs that Democrats seek to create.

Speaking of the national debt, Trump's tax cuts are expected to add 1.5 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

"I want to take a look at those tax cuts," Wallace told Cassidy during an interview on Fox News Sunday. "According to the Tax Policy Center, the average first year tax cut for a household making less than $25,000—the average tax cut was just $60. The average tax cut for a household making $3.4 million was $193,000. And contrary to talk that it will pay for itself, the Trump tax cuts are now projected to add $1.5 trillion to the deficit over 10 years," Wallace explained.

Socialists consistently overestimate the impact of tax cuts on budget deficits. They assume that tax cuts do nothing to grow the economy, a notion that has been disproved time and again throughout American history. Tax cuts have often resulted in increases in tax revenue because of economic expansion but leftists love to ignore this fact. Did you expect the Biden administration to provide an objective analysis of the Trump tax cuts?

Commrade Quooter Consumer spending what drives the economy not stock buy backs also government spending.

The world according to Twin Ticks. High corporate tax rates are good. Government spending fuels economic growth. It would be a waste of time for me to explain why Biden's proposed tax hikes, which would return American corporations to the top of the list of most heavily taxed on the planet, will place American manufacturers at a serious competitive disadvantage. I could also explain to you why consumer spending on Chinese products is much less beneficial to the American economy than spending on goods and services produced by American citizens with operations in this country. But such explanations are wasted on you, Twin Ticks. China Joe will tell you all you need or want to know about economics. As a lifetime career politician, you can be sure that China Joe and the CCP know what is best for you.

 
You spout what you were told. Mt Rustmore’s Reagan loved his govt spending as much as any liberal executive.   

oh goods and services like childcare, elder care, community college, etc. 

you can’t get out of your own way.

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Hoot Gibson

China Joe Biden just proposed trillions of dollars in new spending for new entitlement programs and the communists/nazis who frequent this forum are attacking Reagan over his deficit spending, which resulting in this nation winning the Cold War. I remember Jimmy Carter and I lived through his misery index. Ronald Reagan earned a spot (but there is no room left) on Mount Rushmore for relieving the suffering in this country following the worst U.S. president in American history up until that time. You guys are not content with lying about the current state of affairs, you are constantly repeating the lies of the past as if you can change history. The past is the past and no amount of your lies will change it. Try predicting the future based on the irresponsible actions of the politicians for whom you voted. It is not too late too change the future.
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Do you remember the once popular saying 'no wise cracks from the peanut gallery?'

These guys got nothing but wise cracks to offer to any topic because devoid of real world experience, they're basically clueless.

You got nothing.  You won’t answer which of the entitlements needs to go.  

or are you trying to figure out which one benefits you the most, TRT?  

typical.

[Hoot Gibson]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

Twin Ticks asks himself to validate his opinion again. Ain't that precious?

You’ve haven’t been on as much TRT has been answering for you. it’s been about the same. 

I told you.  My other account is a Trump bootlicker like you.  You guys are friends.

Twin Ticks, you seem to think that your opinions are worth repeating through multiple accounts. Nothing could be further from the truth.

[vector#1]

Hoot Gibson

China Joe Biden just proposed trillions of dollars in new spending for new entitlement programs and the communists/nazis who frequent this forum are attacking Reagan over his deficit spending, which resulting in this nation winning the Cold War. I remember Jimmy Carter and I lived through his misery index. Ronald Reagan earned a spot (but there is no room left) on Mount Rushmore for relieving the suffering in this country following the worst U.S. president in American history up until that time. You guys are not content with lying about the current state of affairs, you are constantly repeating the lies of the past as if you can change history. The past is the past and no amount of your lies will change it. Try predicting the future based on the irresponsible actions of the politicians for whom you voted. It is not too late too change the future.
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Do you remember the once popular saying 'no wise cracks from the peanut gallery?'These guys got nothing but wise cracks to offer to any topic because devoid of real world experience, they're basically clueless.  The past is the past, you nailed it. Their lies will catch up with them.

Commrade TRT you brought Reagan up or have you already forgot ?
So the best thing you Commrades need to do is start telling the truth

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@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

Twin Ticks asks himself to validate his opinion again. Ain't that precious?

You’ve haven’t been on as much TRT has been answering for you. it’s been about the same. 

I told you.  My other account is a Trump bootlicker like you.  You guys are friends.

Twin Ticks, you seem to think that your opinions are worth repeating through multiple accounts. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Commrade Quooter do you agree this is a consumer and government economy ?  It's a simple yes or no but more than likely it's went over your head

[Cardfan1]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

Twin Ticks asks himself to validate his opinion again. Ain't that precious?

You’ve haven’t been on as much TRT has been answering for you. it’s been about the same. 

I told you.  My other account is a Trump bootlicker like you.  You guys are friends.

Twin Ticks, you seem to think that your opinions are worth repeating through multiple accounts. Nothing could be further from the truth.

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

[Hoot Gibson]

@vector#1

How do you feel being a socialist/Nazi/communist? 

When you add those up wouldn’t that make us left leaning moderates ?

Twin Ticks asks himself to validate his opinion again. Ain't that precious?

You’ve haven’t been on as much TRT has been answering for you. it’s been about the same. 

I told you.  My other account is a Trump bootlicker like you.  You guys are friends.

Twin Ticks, you seem to think that your opinions are worth repeating through multiple accounts. Nothing could be further from the truth.

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Good night, Twin Ticks. I've had my daily fill of your idiocy. Thanks for making the rest of us look so smart by comparison. Now, pat yourself on the back and tell yourself how bright you are - because you are not going to hear such praise from anybody with a fully functioning brain.

[Cardfan1]

Weak

[TheRealThing]

Accurate

[Cardfan1]

Currently, all you look like is political shills; neither have the courage to support or disapprove of any of the proposals.

Biden says it so it's wrong. Gray-man bad

[TheRealThing]

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Benefits are earned or merited payments, goods and or services. You're doing what all libs do, renaming or mischaracterizing a concept we're all familiar with in order to make it seem different than it actually is, is. Like referring to the slaughter of the innocents at so-called abortion 'clinics', as women's health for example. And like renaming welfare handouts as entitlements or benefits.

Those who still do it the old fashion way by working to raise a family, look forward to the time in which they will be too old to work. With responsibility comes clear mindedness, thus people in this country who do work often participate in a retirement fund. They set back a portion of the money they make now, which is usually invested, so they have an ongoing income when they're old and unable to work. Those retirement payments are nonetheless still taxed to immoral extents by the government BTW, who then use those taxes to dole out payments to those who have not earned a thing except to make a deal with government. Votes for money. Benefits are earned. Handouts are welfare. The able bodied should work, end of story. Conflating moral laws with secular law is the argument of our day.

The responsibility for caring for and raising children for example, is not part of government. The responsibility is that of the parents of those children. Immorality ultimately is what has undone the vision of the founders. Many of the children who don't wind up murdered in an abortion clinic, are abandoned to become wards of the state or street people. You talk like it's okay to let the dam break as long as government is out making a good face by trying to catch some of the aftermath in buckets. Hello, the dam broke. But I digress.

These programs you speak of are not ever going to take the place of personal responsibility. And with the loss of personal responsibility so too comes the loss of our personal freedoms. You think Uncle Sam can just keep writing checks and it's all good. I say you're wrong. Meanwhile America's youth are what you see on the streets. Haves and have nots out there tearing up stuff and burning the rest down because nothing seems to make any sense. YOU blame Republicans for not caring enough, I blame Dems for insisting that we can handle society on our own without Godly guidance.

No, the day we 'moved the country forward' to the point we turned our backs on God, was the day we left the path.

[vector#1]

Accurate

A Russian Liar

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My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Benefits are earned or merited payments, goods and or services. You're doing what all libs do, renaming or mischaracterizing a concept we're all familiar with in order to make it seem different than it actually is, is. Like referring to the slaughter of the innocents at so-called abortion 'clinics', as women's health for example. And like renaming welfare handouts as entitlements or benefits.

Those who still do it the old fashion way by working to raise a family, look forward to the time in which they will be too old to work. With responsibility comes clear mindedness, thus people in this country who do work often participate in a retirement fund. They set back a portion of the money they make now, which is usually invested, so they have an ongoing income when they're old and unable to work. Those retirement payments are nonetheless still taxed to immoral extents by the government BTW, who then use those taxes to dole out payments to those who have not earned a thing except to make a deal with government. Votes for money. Benefits are earned. Handouts are welfare. The able bodied should work, end of story. Conflating moral laws with secular law is the argument of our day.

The responsibility for caring for and raising children for example, is not part of government. The responsibility is that of the parents of those children. Immorality ultimately is what has undone the vision of the founders. Many of the children who don't wind up murdered in an abortion clinic, are abandoned to become wards of the state or street people. You talk like it's okay to let the dam break as long as government is out making a good face by trying to catch some of the aftermath in buckets. Hello, the dam broke. But I digress.

These programs you speak of are not ever going to take the place of personal responsibility. And with the loss of personal responsibility so too comes the loss of our personal freedoms. You think Uncle Sam can just keep writing checks and it's all good. I say you're wrong. Meanwhile America's youth are what you see on the streets. Haves and have nots out there tearing up stuff and burning the rest down because nothing seems to make any sense. YOU blame Republicans for not caring enough, I blame Dems for insisting that we can handle society on our own without Godly guidance.

No, the day we 'moved the country forward' to the point we turned our backs on God, was the day we left the path.

Commrade so basically you are saying it's all right for Uncle Sam to spend as long as a Republican is in the white house but it's Bad when a democrat is in the white house
And Commrade we left the path when we brought other humans in this country and when we took the Indians land
So Commrade Americans was a lot more evil back then than what they are today would you agree ?

[Cardfan1]

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Benefits are earned or merited payments, goods and or services. You're doing what all libs do, renaming or mischaracterizing a concept we're all familiar with in order to make it seem different than it actually is, is. Like referring to the slaughter of the innocents at so-called abortion 'clinics', as women's health for example. And like renaming welfare handouts as entitlements or benefits.

Those who still do it the old fashion way by working to raise a family, look forward to the time in which they will be too old to work. With responsibility comes clear mindedness, thus people in this country who do work often participate in a retirement fund. They set back a portion of the money they make now, which is usually invested, so they have an ongoing income when they're old and unable to work. Those retirement payments are nonetheless still taxed to immoral extents by the government BTW, who then use those taxes to dole out payments to those who have not earned a thing except to make a deal with government. Votes for money. Benefits are earned. Handouts are welfare. The able bodied should work, end of story. Conflating moral laws with secular law is the argument of our day.

The responsibility for caring for and raising children for example, is not part of government. The responsibility is that of the parents of those children. Immorality ultimately is what has undone the vision of the founders. Many of the children who don't wind up murdered in an abortion clinic, are abandoned to become wards of the state or street people. You talk like it's okay to let the dam break as long as government is out making a good face by trying to catch some of the aftermath in buckets. Hello, the dam broke. But I digress.

These programs you speak of are not ever going to take the place of personal responsibility. And with the loss of personal responsibility so too comes the loss of our personal freedoms. You think Uncle Sam can just keep writing checks and it's all good. I say you're wrong. Meanwhile America's youth are what you see on the streets. Haves and have nots out there tearing up stuff and burning the rest down because nothing seems to make any sense. YOU blame Republicans for not caring enough, I blame Dems for insisting that we can handle society on our own without Godly guidance.

No, the day we 'moved the country forward' to the point we turned our backs on God, was the day we left the path.

YAY!!! You picked one!! 

I think you're saying you are against government-funded childcare?? I think.  Your diatribe isn't very focused.  

Wouldn't govt. funded childcare discourage some abortions?  Wouldn't it allow both parents to work and pay taxes?  both of these issues are high on your list of priorities, TRT.  

I know this for a fact; gone are the days granny can keep your kids because granny is still working herself.

[The Outsider]

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/201...l-welfare/

This study is very enlightening as to how the U.S. stacks up to other countries in social programs.  Is Biden wanting to go too far, too fast in implementing his policies?  Probably, but since their seems to be no chance of the two political sides working together, this is what it has come to, the Republican Party is moving very quickly to the extreme right while the Democrats are moving further left.

"There is a strong, direct relationship between public social spending and poverty reduction. This is even more impressive when you consider that “public social spending” does not automatically mean “progressive.”

We see then that public social spending does not just reduce poverty. It also creates a more equitable environment for society as a whole.

Conclusion
It follows fairly obviously from the above that the U.S. should be making large outlays on social welfare that it currently is not making. While other wealthy countries apparently view their inhabitants as part of a society with universal needs, the U.S. largely leaves its people to fend for themselves.
More social spending is not the solution to every problem the U.S. faces. But it would certainly help a significant portion of them.

[TheRealThing]

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Benefits are earned or merited payments, goods and or services. You're doing what all libs do, renaming or mischaracterizing a concept we're all familiar with in order to make it seem different than it actually is, is. Like referring to the slaughter of the innocents at so-called abortion 'clinics', as women's health for example. And like renaming welfare handouts as entitlements or benefits.

Those who still do it the old fashion way by working to raise a family, look forward to the time in which they will be too old to work. With responsibility comes clear mindedness, thus people in this country who do work often participate in a retirement fund. They set back a portion of the money they make now, which is usually invested, so they have an ongoing income when they're old and unable to work. Those retirement payments are nonetheless still taxed to immoral extents by the government BTW, who then use those taxes to dole out payments to those who have not earned a thing except to make a deal with government. Votes for money. Benefits are earned. Handouts are welfare. The able bodied should work, end of story. Conflating moral laws with secular law is the argument of our day.

The responsibility for caring for and raising children for example, is not part of government. The responsibility is that of the parents of those children. Immorality ultimately is what has undone the vision of the founders. Many of the children who don't wind up murdered in an abortion clinic, are abandoned to become wards of the state or street people. You talk like it's okay to let the dam break as long as government is out making a good face by trying to catch some of the aftermath in buckets. Hello, the dam broke. But I digress.

These programs you speak of are not ever going to take the place of personal responsibility. And with the loss of personal responsibility so too comes the loss of our personal freedoms. You think Uncle Sam can just keep writing checks and it's all good. I say you're wrong. Meanwhile America's youth are what you see on the streets. Haves and have nots out there tearing up stuff and burning the rest down because nothing seems to make any sense. YOU blame Republicans for not caring enough, I blame Dems for insisting that we can handle society on our own without Godly guidance.

No, the day we 'moved the country forward' to the point we turned our backs on God, was the day we left the path.

YAY!!! You picked one!! 

I think you're saying you are against government-funded childcare?? I think.  Your diatribe isn't very focused.  

Wouldn't govt. funded childcare discourage some abortions?  Wouldn't it allow both parents to work and pay taxes?  both of these issues are high on your list of priorities, TRT.  

I know this for a fact; gone are the days granny can keep your kids because granny is still working herself.

I did not pick one and in no way am I accountable to answer, nor am I automatically bound to discuss your shallow view of what ails us. Abortions happen because we live in sexually promiscuous society. Starting with LBJ, throwing money at the idea is what got us to the point of societal no-return as things stand, because obviously, the US checkbook is not the answer to moral problems.

But yeah I guess an unemployment office employee would be somewhat familiar with issues of employment. Granny works because Granny's income is taxed to immoral extremes. And why? Because America is burdened with raising the progeny of the sexually promiscuous and we need the tax dollars to pay the bill, cause as I've been saying, it's waay past due. Dems/libs think bad behavior is a matter of income inequality, and not a matter of moral deviance. That's what happens when mushrooms declare themselves to be wise.

Past that, don't try and sell me on the lie which says Daddy and Mommy though working, cannot afford to raise a family. And I agree  the problems of the liberal mindset are not limited to the US. Greece teeters on bankruptcy as do many other nations. Any doubt that the world financial system could crash suddenly ought to become negligible with even a cursory glance.

[Old School Hound]

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/201...l-welfare/

This study is very enlightening as to how the U.S. stacks up to other countries in social programs.  Is Biden wanting to go too far, too fast in implementing his policies?  Probably, but since their seems to be no chance of the two political sides working together, this is what it has come to, the Republican Party is moving very quickly to the extreme right while the Democrats are moving further left.

"There is a strong, direct relationship between public social spending and poverty reduction. This is even more impressive when you consider that “public social spending” does not automatically mean “progressive.”

We see then that public social spending does not just reduce poverty. It also creates a more equitable environment for society as a whole.

Conclusion
It follows fairly obviously from the above that the U.S. should be making large outlays on social welfare that it currently is not making. While other wealthy countries apparently view their inhabitants as part of a society with universal needs, the U.S. largely leaves its people to fend for themselves.
More social spending is not the solution to every problem the U.S. faces. But it would certainly help a significant portion of them.

Very interesting study, Outsider. As a math person, I love the regression and R^2 graphs.

[Cardfan1]

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Benefits are earned or merited payments, goods and or services. You're doing what all libs do, renaming or mischaracterizing a concept we're all familiar with in order to make it seem different than it actually is, is. Like referring to the slaughter of the innocents at so-called abortion 'clinics', as women's health for example. And like renaming welfare handouts as entitlements or benefits.

Those who still do it the old fashion way by working to raise a family, look forward to the time in which they will be too old to work. With responsibility comes clear mindedness, thus people in this country who do work often participate in a retirement fund. They set back a portion of the money they make now, which is usually invested, so they have an ongoing income when they're old and unable to work. Those retirement payments are nonetheless still taxed to immoral extents by the government BTW, who then use those taxes to dole out payments to those who have not earned a thing except to make a deal with government. Votes for money. Benefits are earned. Handouts are welfare. The able bodied should work, end of story. Conflating moral laws with secular law is the argument of our day.

The responsibility for caring for and raising children for example, is not part of government. The responsibility is that of the parents of those children. Immorality ultimately is what has undone the vision of the founders. Many of the children who don't wind up murdered in an abortion clinic, are abandoned to become wards of the state or street people. You talk like it's okay to let the dam break as long as government is out making a good face by trying to catch some of the aftermath in buckets. Hello, the dam broke. But I digress.

These programs you speak of are not ever going to take the place of personal responsibility. And with the loss of personal responsibility so too comes the loss of our personal freedoms. You think Uncle Sam can just keep writing checks and it's all good. I say you're wrong. Meanwhile America's youth are what you see on the streets. Haves and have nots out there tearing up stuff and burning the rest down because nothing seems to make any sense. YOU blame Republicans for not caring enough, I blame Dems for insisting that we can handle society on our own without Godly guidance.

No, the day we 'moved the country forward' to the point we turned our backs on God, was the day we left the path.

YAY!!! You picked one!! 

I think you're saying you are against government-funded childcare?? I think.  Your diatribe isn't very focused.  

Wouldn't govt. funded childcare discourage some abortions?  Wouldn't it allow both parents to work and pay taxes?  both of these issues are high on your list of priorities, TRT.  

I know this for a fact; gone are the days granny can keep your kids because granny is still working herself.

I did not pick one and in no way am I accountable to answer, nor am I automatically bound to discuss your shallow view of what ails us. Abortions happen because we live in sexually promiscuous society. Starting with LBJ, throwing money at the idea is what got us to the point of societal no-return as things stand, because obviously, the US checkbook is not the answer to moral problems.

But yeah I guess an unemployment office employee would be somewhat familiar with issues of employment. Granny works because Granny's income is taxed to immoral extremes. And why? Because America is burdened with raising the progeny of the sexually promiscuous and we need the tax dollars to pay the bill, cause as I've been saying, it's waay past due. Dems/libs think bad behavior is a matter of income inequality, and not a matter of moral deviance. That's what happens when mushrooms declare themselves to be wise.

Past that, don't try and sell me on the lie which says Daddy and Mommy though working, cannot afford to raise a family. And I agree  the problems of the liberal mindset are not limited to the US. Greece teeters on bankruptcy as do many other nations. Any doubt that the world financial system could crash suddenly ought to become negligible with even a cursory glance.

Aww man, I was hoping you were showing some guts today.   But another post filled with archaic philosophy, LBJ, and Greece...just silliness.  

Your general misconceptions are completely off on this subject.  Govt. funded childcare would be for working American families.  You don't want to encourage working families. 

If you hate welfare, wouldn't you support childcare that would get Americans into the workforce by keeping their children and with jobs of keeping children?  

Oh boy, I look forward to the day when Joe Biden eases the taxes on Social Security recipients.    

If I worked for the unemployment office, why would I be for a bill like this?  

Who keeps Mommy and Daddy's kids while both are working?  Since the 1950s the birthrate has gone down by half.  If we want Americans to have children, we have to make it possible.

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https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/201...l-welfare/

This study is very enlightening as to how the U.S. stacks up to other countries in social programs.  Is Biden wanting to go too far, too fast in implementing his policies?  Probably, but since their seems to be no chance of the two political sides working together, this is what it has come to, the Republican Party is moving very quickly to the extreme right while the Democrats are moving further left.

"There is a strong, direct relationship between public social spending and poverty reduction. This is even more impressive when you consider that “public social spending” does not automatically mean “progressive.”

We see then that public social spending does not just reduce poverty. It also creates a more equitable environment for society as a whole.

Conclusion
It follows fairly obviously from the above that the U.S. should be making large outlays on social welfare that it currently is not making. While other wealthy countries apparently view their inhabitants as part of a society with universal needs, the U.S. largely leaves its people to fend for themselves.
More social spending is not the solution to every problem the U.S. faces. But it would certainly help a significant portion of them.

I don't understand the aversion to spending money on Americans for basic needs: education, healthcare, food. etc.   It's not like people are getting wealthy on THESE govt. handouts...some are.

[The Outsider]

My questions are worth repeating.
This thread topic has you all Jacked up Hooter, but you can’t tell us which American benefitting program you hate.  I guess you just hate Americans.  

typical.

Benefits are earned or merited payments, goods and or services. You're doing what all libs do, renaming or mischaracterizing a concept we're all familiar with in order to make it seem different than it actually is, is. Like referring to the slaughter of the innocents at so-called abortion 'clinics', as women's health for example. And like renaming welfare handouts as entitlements or benefits.

Those who still do it the old fashion way by working to raise a family, look forward to the time in which they will be too old to work. With responsibility comes clear mindedness, thus people in this country who do work often participate in a retirement fund. They set back a portion of the money they make now, which is usually invested, so they have an ongoing income when they're old and unable to work. Those retirement payments are nonetheless still taxed to immoral extents by the government BTW, who then use those taxes to dole out payments to those who have not earned a thing except to make a deal with government. Votes for money. Benefits are earned. Handouts are welfare. The able bodied should work, end of story. Conflating moral laws with secular law is the argument of our day.

The responsibility for caring for and raising children for example, is not part of government. The responsibility is that of the parents of those children. Immorality ultimately is what has undone the vision of the founders. Many of the children who don't wind up murdered in an abortion clinic, are abandoned to become wards of the state or street people. You talk like it's okay to let the dam break as long as government is out making a good face by trying to catch some of the aftermath in buckets. Hello, the dam broke. But I digress.

These programs you speak of are not ever going to take the place of personal responsibility. And with the loss of personal responsibility so too comes the loss of our personal freedoms. You think Uncle Sam can just keep writing checks and it's all good. I say you're wrong. Meanwhile America's youth are what you see on the streets. Haves and have nots out there tearing up stuff and burning the rest down because nothing seems to make any sense. YOU blame Republicans for not caring enough, I blame Dems for insisting that we can handle society on our own without Godly guidance.

No, the day we 'moved the country forward' to the point we turned our backs on God, was the day we left the path.

YAY!!! You picked one!! 

I think you're saying you are against government-funded childcare?? I think.  Your diatribe isn't very focused.  

Wouldn't govt. funded childcare discourage some abortions?  Wouldn't it allow both parents to work and pay taxes?  both of these issues are high on your list of priorities, TRT.  

I know this for a fact; gone are the days granny can keep your kids because granny is still working herself.

I did not pick one and in no way am I accountable to answer, nor am I automatically bound to discuss your shallow view of what ails us. Abortions happen because we live in sexually promiscuous society. Starting with LBJ, throwing money at the idea is what got us to the point of societal no-return as things stand, because obviously, the US checkbook is not the answer to moral problems.

But yeah I guess an unemployment office employee would be somewhat familiar with issues of employment. Granny works because Granny's income is taxed to immoral extremes. And why? Because America is burdened with raising the progeny of the sexually promiscuous and we need the tax dollars to pay the bill, cause as I've been saying, it's waay past due. Dems/libs think bad behavior is a matter of income inequality, and not a matter of moral deviance. That's what happens when mushrooms declare themselves to be wise.

Past that, don't try and sell me on the lie which says Daddy and Mommy though working, cannot afford to raise a family. And I agree  the problems of the liberal mindset are not limited to the US. Greece teeters on bankruptcy as do many other nations. Any doubt that the world financial system could crash suddenly ought to become negligible with even a cursory glance.

Aww man, I was hoping you were showing some guts today.   But another post filled with archaic philosophy, LBJ, and Greece...just silliness.  

Your general misconceptions are completely off on this subject.  Govt. funded childcare would be for working American families.  You don't want to encourage working families. 

If you hate welfare, wouldn't you support childcare that would get Americans into the workforce by keeping their children and with jobs of keeping children?  

Oh boy, I look forward to the day when Joe Biden eases the taxes on Social Security recipients.    

If I worked for the unemployment office, why would I be for a bill like this?  

Who keeps Mommy and Daddy's kids while both are working?  Since the 1950s the birthrate has gone down by half.  If we want Americans to have children, we have to make it possible.

---

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/201...l-welfare/

This study is very enlightening as to how the U.S. stacks up to other countries in social programs.  Is Biden wanting to go too far, too fast in implementing his policies?  Probably, but since their seems to be no chance of the two political sides working together, this is what it has come to, the Republican Party is moving very quickly to the extreme right while the Democrats are moving further left.

"There is a strong, direct relationship between public social spending and poverty reduction. This is even more impressive when you consider that “public social spending” does not automatically mean “progressive.”

We see then that public social spending does not just reduce poverty. It also creates a more equitable environment for society as a whole.

Conclusion
It follows fairly obviously from the above that the U.S. should be making large outlays on social welfare that it currently is not making. While other wealthy countries apparently view their inhabitants as part of a society with universal needs, the U.S. largely leaves its people to fend for themselves.
More social spending is not the solution to every problem the U.S. faces. But it would certainly help a significant portion of them.

I don't understand the aversion to spending money on Americans for basic needs: education, healthcare, food. etc.   It's not like people are getting wealthy on THESE govt. handouts...some are.

You would think that someone who likes to quote Scripture all of the time would also believe in being more generous to the less fortunate.

1 John 3:17-18

But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

Matthew 6:1-4

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

Deuteronomy 15:7-8

“If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be

Deuteronomy 15:11

For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

[Cardfan1]

@TheRealThing

or should I say The WRONG Thing 

ben·e·fit | \ ˈbe-nə-ˌfit  \
Definition of benefit (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: something that produces good or helpful results or effects or that promotes well-being : ADVANTAGE
discounted prices and other benefits of a museum membership
The benefits outweigh the risks of taking the drug.
reaping the benefits of their hard work
changes that will be to your benefit
b: useful aid : HELP
without the benefit of a lawyer
2a: financial help in time of sickness, old age, or unemployment
is on unemployment benefit
a disability benefit
a family on benefits
b: a payment or service provided for under an annuity, pension plan, or insurance policy
collecting his retirement benefits
c: a service (such as health insurance) or right (as to take vacation time) provided by an employer in addition to wages or salary
The job doesn't pay much, but the benefits are good.
3: an entertainment or social event to raise funds for a person or cause
holding a benefit to raise money for the school
4archaic : an act of kindness : BENEFACTION
benefit verb
benefited\ ˈbe-nə-ˌfi-təd  \ also benefitted; benefiting also benefitting
Definition of benefit (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb

: to be useful or profitable to
tax cuts that primarily benefit the wealthy
held a fund-raiser to benefit her campaign
intransitive verb

: to receive help or an advantage : to receive benefit
patients who will benefit from the drug
has benefited from his experiences in the military

[vector#1]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...d=msedgntp

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...d=msedgntp

[Hoot Gibson]

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” - Margaret Thatcher

The money that the socialists, nazis, and/or communists want to transfer to other people as "benefits" does not belong to you. Nothing is stopping you from voluntarily donating every cent that you earn (or manage to suck away from those who work for a living) but you have no moral right to compel other people to give their money to causes that you deem worthy.

[The Outsider]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/04/us-is-wo...efits.html

The U.S. ranks last among industrialized countries relative to employee benefits like healthcare, paid leave, vacation days, unemployment and retirement, according to Zenefits.

The Czech Republic, Latvia, South Korea and Mexico joined the U.S. among the five least-generous countries. Denmark, the Netherlands, Finland, Sweden and Switzerland were the top nations for worker benefits.

There is no excuse for the U.S. to be ranked last.  

[vector#1]

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” - Margaret Thatcher

The money that the socialists, nazis, and/or communists want to transfer to other people as "benefits" does not belong to you. Nothing is stopping you from voluntarily donating every cent that you earn (or manage to suck away from those who work for a living) but you have no moral right to compel other people to give their money to causes that you deem worthy.

Commrade Quooter you should know first hand about socialism since your homeland runned out of money trying to keep up with us Americans

[Hoot Gibson]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/04/us-is-wo...efits.html

The U.S. ranks last among industrialized countries relative to employee benefits like healthcare, paid leave, vacation days, unemployment and retirement, according to Zenefits.

The Czech Republic, Latvia, South Korea and Mexico joined the U.S. among the five least-generous countries. Denmark, the Netherlands, Finland, Sweden and Switzerland were the top nations for worker benefits.

There is no excuse for the U.S. to be ranked last.  

There is no excuse for American corporations to be ranked first in combined state and federal tax rates but that is what China Joe is proposing, Mr. I am Not a Socialist but...

Cuba and Venezuela once had thriving economies. How has socialism worked out for them? This country is broke and our inflation rate has begun to soar. Even the Biden administration is now acknowledging that interest rates will need to be raised to keep inflation in check. Inflation and interest rates composed two thirds of the Carter misery index. As the rate of inflation and interest rates rise, the unemployment rate will follow. That is the trifecta that Jimmy Carter unleashed on this nation. (Nixon, Ford, and LBJ did their part in crippling our economy, but Carter came to own the misery index, which disappeared during the Reagan administration.)