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03-11-2021, 04:31 PM
(03-11-2021, 04:18 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You must of kept it to yourself you didn't complain out in the open if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have already put us in Bankruptcy and it wouldn't be his First(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Actually, I never supported any of the spending. I understand why it was probably a politically necessary thing for Trump to do, but none of the "stimulus" spending was justified then or now. The problem for Trump was big spenders like McConnell would probably have conspired with Democrats to impeach and convict him if he had not signed the spending bills.(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
03-11-2021, 07:09 PM
(03-11-2021, 04:31 PM)vector#1 Wrote:No, I am pretty sure that I explained my position before. Trump was in a no-win situation and signed spending bills that he had to in order to remain in office, IMO. I wish that Republicans were fiscally responsible as a party but fiscal conservatives are a minority and could not have saved Trump if he had vetoed the COVID spending bills.(03-11-2021, 04:18 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You must of kept it to yourself you didn't complain out in the open if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have already put us in Bankruptcy and it wouldn't be his First(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Actually, I never supported any of the spending. I understand why it was probably a politically necessary thing for Trump to do, but none of the "stimulus" spending was justified then or now. The problem for Trump was big spenders like McConnell would probably have conspired with Democrats to impeach and convict him if he had not signed the spending bills.(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
As I have already made clear, I will not be backing Trump in the primaries if he runs in 2024 and there are conservatives in the field of candidates. If Trump runs and wins the nomination again, then he will have my full support against any of the liberal Democrats that win the nomination.
03-11-2021, 07:30 PM
(03-11-2021, 07:09 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Must of been a dream IMO Trump would Bankrupt the country he don't care never did Trump is all about Trump if you haven't figure that out by now there's no help(03-11-2021, 04:31 PM)vector#1 Wrote:No, I am pretty sure that I explained my position before. Trump was in a no-win situation and signed spending bills that he had to in order to remain in office, IMO. I wish that Republicans were fiscally responsible as a party but fiscal conservatives are a minority and could not have saved Trump if he had vetoed the COVID spending bills.(03-11-2021, 04:18 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You must of kept it to yourself you didn't complain out in the open if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have already put us in Bankruptcy and it wouldn't be his First(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Actually, I never supported any of the spending. I understand why it was probably a politically necessary thing for Trump to do, but none of the "stimulus" spending was justified then or now. The problem for Trump was big spenders like McConnell would probably have conspired with Democrats to impeach and convict him if he had not signed the spending bills.(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: You guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it
As I have already made clear, I will not be backing Trump in the primaries if he runs in 2024 and there are conservatives in the field of candidates. If Trump runs and wins the nomination again, then he will have my full support against any of the liberal Democrats that win the nomination.
03-11-2021, 07:32 PM
(03-11-2021, 07:30 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are entitled to your own delusions but you take more than your fair share.(03-11-2021, 07:09 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Must of been a dream IMO Trump would Bankrupt the country he don't care never did Trump is all about Trump if you haven't figure that out by now there's no help(03-11-2021, 04:31 PM)vector#1 Wrote:No, I am pretty sure that I explained my position before. Trump was in a no-win situation and signed spending bills that he had to in order to remain in office, IMO. I wish that Republicans were fiscally responsible as a party but fiscal conservatives are a minority and could not have saved Trump if he had vetoed the COVID spending bills.(03-11-2021, 04:18 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You must of kept it to yourself you didn't complain out in the open if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have already put us in Bankruptcy and it wouldn't be his First(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote: You supported the spending only when a republican is doing itActually, I never supported any of the spending. I understand why it was probably a politically necessary thing for Trump to do, but none of the "stimulus" spending was justified then or now. The problem for Trump was big spenders like McConnell would probably have conspired with Democrats to impeach and convict him if he had not signed the spending bills.
As I have already made clear, I will not be backing Trump in the primaries if he runs in 2024 and there are conservatives in the field of candidates. If Trump runs and wins the nomination again, then he will have my full support against any of the liberal Democrats that win the nomination.
03-11-2021, 08:42 PM
(03-11-2021, 07:32 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:It's not delusions 8 trillion in new debt in 4 years that's not delusions that's a lot of peso if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have Bankrupt us if he thought he could get a vote(03-11-2021, 07:30 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are entitled to your own delusions but you take more than your fair share.(03-11-2021, 07:09 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Must of been a dream IMO Trump would Bankrupt the country he don't care never did Trump is all about Trump if you haven't figure that out by now there's no help(03-11-2021, 04:31 PM)vector#1 Wrote:No, I am pretty sure that I explained my position before. Trump was in a no-win situation and signed spending bills that he had to in order to remain in office, IMO. I wish that Republicans were fiscally responsible as a party but fiscal conservatives are a minority and could not have saved Trump if he had vetoed the COVID spending bills.(03-11-2021, 04:18 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Actually, I never supported any of the spending. I understand why it was probably a politically necessary thing for Trump to do, but none of the "stimulus" spending was justified then or now. The problem for Trump was big spenders like McConnell would probably have conspired with Democrats to impeach and convict him if he had not signed the spending bills.You must of kept it to yourself you didn't complain out in the open if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have already put us in Bankruptcy and it wouldn't be his First
As I have already made clear, I will not be backing Trump in the primaries if he runs in 2024 and there are conservatives in the field of candidates. If Trump runs and wins the nomination again, then he will have my full support against any of the liberal Democrats that win the nomination.
03-11-2021, 08:49 PM
(03-11-2021, 08:42 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Yet you supported every COVID-19 bogus spending bill and now you are supporting the one that Pelosi delayed since October. You do understand that supporting big spending Democrats and then blaming Trump for increasing the national debt makes you a huge hypocrite, right? I mean, that's okay but you should understand how hypocritical you are being for bashing Trump over the deficit that contained hundreds of billions of dollars of spending for Democrat pet projects. Pelosi could have agreed to a strictly COVID-19 bill at any time but she was not really interested in helping suffering people. After all, poor suffering people are more likely to vote for Democrats, regardless of which party is responsible for their suffering.(03-11-2021, 07:32 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:It's not delusions 8 trillion in new debt in 4 years that's not delusions that's a lot of peso if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have Bankrupt us if he thought he could get a vote(03-11-2021, 07:30 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are entitled to your own delusions but you take more than your fair share.(03-11-2021, 07:09 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Must of been a dream IMO Trump would Bankrupt the country he don't care never did Trump is all about Trump if you haven't figure that out by now there's no help(03-11-2021, 04:31 PM)vector#1 Wrote: You must of kept it to yourself you didn't complain out in the open if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have already put us in Bankruptcy and it wouldn't be his FirstNo, I am pretty sure that I explained my position before. Trump was in a no-win situation and signed spending bills that he had to in order to remain in office, IMO. I wish that Republicans were fiscally responsible as a party but fiscal conservatives are a minority and could not have saved Trump if he had vetoed the COVID spending bills.
As I have already made clear, I will not be backing Trump in the primaries if he runs in 2024 and there are conservatives in the field of candidates. If Trump runs and wins the nomination again, then he will have my full support against any of the liberal Democrats that win the nomination.
03-11-2021, 09:11 PM
(03-11-2021, 08:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:I have never said i supported any of the Covid Bills and i have never supported the tax cuts Dear Leader added to the debt(03-11-2021, 08:42 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Yet you supported every COVID-19 bogus spending bill and now you are supporting the one that Pelosi delayed since October. You do understand that supporting big spending Democrats and then blaming Trump for increasing the national debt makes you a huge hypocrite, right? I mean, that's okay but you should understand how hypocritical you are being for bashing Trump over the deficit that contained hundreds of billions of dollars of spending for Democrat pet projects. Pelosi could have agreed to a strictly COVID-19 bill at any time but she was not really interested in helping suffering people. After all, poor suffering people are more likely to vote for Democrats, regardless of which party is responsible for their suffering.(03-11-2021, 07:32 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:It's not delusions 8 trillion in new debt in 4 years that's not delusions that's a lot of peso if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have Bankrupt us if he thought he could get a vote(03-11-2021, 07:30 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are entitled to your own delusions but you take more than your fair share.(03-11-2021, 07:09 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: No, I am pretty sure that I explained my position before. Trump was in a no-win situation and signed spending bills that he had to in order to remain in office, IMO. I wish that Republicans were fiscally responsible as a party but fiscal conservatives are a minority and could not have saved Trump if he had vetoed the COVID spending bills.Must of been a dream IMO Trump would Bankrupt the country he don't care never did Trump is all about Trump if you haven't figure that out by now there's no help
As I have already made clear, I will not be backing Trump in the primaries if he runs in 2024 and there are conservatives in the field of candidates. If Trump runs and wins the nomination again, then he will have my full support against any of the liberal Democrats that win the nomination.
But if you are going to add to the debt do it in a way that will add jobs or keep jobs
Tax Cuts don't work we have done it for 40 years the average pay for a CEO in late 70's was 35 times of average worker now it's 400 times it's not working in 1980 the corporate tax revenue was 30% 2019 it is 6%
But don't get on hear and tell me Dear Leader is concerned about Debt it's not in his DNA
But you and the Republican Party have been silent the last 4 years of all the money you have printed and all of a sudden there's a democrat in charge you got your panties in a a wad
I know why they went BIG after 2009 again with no republican support they went small took to long to get out of the ditch
03-11-2021, 09:23 PM
(03-11-2021, 09:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Tax cuts do work. The Kennedy tax cuts worked. The Reagan tax cuts worked. And the Trump tax cuts worked. I know that you liberals have absolutely no clue about how our economy works but high corporate taxes and high regulatory compliance costs drive companies to offshore production. It is basic economics. You can look at the graph of gasoline prices since election day and it should be crystal clear to you that attacking companies with unreasonable regulations, high taxes, and unpredictable government interference always makes this countries job providers less competitive than those in other, more business friendly countries. Profits made by corporations are already taxed once, even without a corporate tax. Employees pay income taxes and shareholders pay taxes on stock dividends.(03-11-2021, 08:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:I have never said i supported any of the Covid Bills and i have never supported the tax cuts Dear Leader added to the debt(03-11-2021, 08:42 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Yet you supported every COVID-19 bogus spending bill and now you are supporting the one that Pelosi delayed since October. You do understand that supporting big spending Democrats and then blaming Trump for increasing the national debt makes you a huge hypocrite, right? I mean, that's okay but you should understand how hypocritical you are being for bashing Trump over the deficit that contained hundreds of billions of dollars of spending for Democrat pet projects. Pelosi could have agreed to a strictly COVID-19 bill at any time but she was not really interested in helping suffering people. After all, poor suffering people are more likely to vote for Democrats, regardless of which party is responsible for their suffering.(03-11-2021, 07:32 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:It's not delusions 8 trillion in new debt in 4 years that's not delusions that's a lot of peso if not for Mitch Dear Leader would have Bankrupt us if he thought he could get a vote(03-11-2021, 07:30 PM)vector#1 Wrote: Must of been a dream IMO Trump would Bankrupt the country he don't care never did Trump is all about Trump if you haven't figure that out by now there's no helpYou are entitled to your own delusions but you take more than your fair share.
But if you are going to add to the debt do it in a way that will add jobs or keep jobs
Tax Cuts don't work we have done it for 40 years the average pay for a CEO in late 70's was 35 times of average worker now it's 400 times it's not working in 1980 the corporate tax revenue was 30% 2019 it is 6%
But don't get on hear and tell me Dear Leader is concerned about Debt it's not in his DNA
But you and the Republican Party have been silent the last 4 years of all the money you have printed and all of a sudden there's a democrat in charge you got your panties in a a wad
I know why they went BIG after 2009 again with no republican support they went small took to long to get out of the ditch
When the U.S. jobless rate drops to the point that our workforce is considered to be fully employed, as was the case before the pandemic, you cannot honestly claim that government policies, including tax policy failed to work. You can make dishonest claims if you want but you lose all credibility when you refuse to give people credit for successes.
03-24-2021, 11:06 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...t-n1261431
An NBC News analysis of campaign finance filings found that in the five weeks after the election, those charged in the Capitol riot increased their political donations by about 75 percent compared to the five weeks leading up to the election. Many had made very few or no donations at all in previous years, but they began escalating their numbers of contributions as Trump was trying to overturn Joe Biden's victory.
Trump and his aligned groups, including the Republican National Committee, raised $207.5 million in the 19 days after the election.
Wilson, the Republican digital strategist, chalked up the riot to people who were gullible.
"I don't know that there's a bigger story to tell other than there are a lot of dumb people in the world," he said. "And a lot of them stormed the Capitol on January 6th."
An NBC News analysis of campaign finance filings found that in the five weeks after the election, those charged in the Capitol riot increased their political donations by about 75 percent compared to the five weeks leading up to the election. Many had made very few or no donations at all in previous years, but they began escalating their numbers of contributions as Trump was trying to overturn Joe Biden's victory.
Trump and his aligned groups, including the Republican National Committee, raised $207.5 million in the 19 days after the election.
Wilson, the Republican digital strategist, chalked up the riot to people who were gullible.
"I don't know that there's a bigger story to tell other than there are a lot of dumb people in the world," he said. "And a lot of them stormed the Capitol on January 6th."
03-24-2021, 11:12 AM
Socialists' obsession with former President Trump continues, as current Resident China Joe Biden, a traitor, continues to hollow out our country from within.
03-24-2021, 05:23 PM
(03-24-2021, 11:06 AM)The Outsider Wrote: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...t-n1261431
An NBC News analysis of campaign finance filings found that in the five weeks after the election, those charged in the Capitol riot increased their political donations by about 75 percent compared to the five weeks leading up to the election. Many had made very few or no donations at all in previous years, but they began escalating their numbers of contributions as Trump was trying to overturn Joe Biden's victory.
Trump and his aligned groups, including the Republican National Committee, raised $207.5 million in the 19 days after the election.
Wilson, the Republican digital strategist, chalked up the riot to people who were gullible.
"I don't know that there's a bigger story to tell other than there are a lot of dumb people in the world," he said. "And a lot of them stormed the Capitol on January 6th."
Oh I don't know. I think Dems prosecuting a lockstep war of lies and resistance from within the US Congress for 4 years, is a fairly big story myself. And let's face it, now that the left feel they have sufficiently destroyed Trump, the next target would be those who refuse to join the lynch mob. Hence the story of your sourcing.
And excuse me there Outsider but in general, quoting from stories written by the same media that carried the water and gave said resistance cover for the whole period not to mention the before and after, seems a bit less than credible to boot. Do I really need to put up the list of issues (like the Bret Kanvaugh confirmation hearings) that the Dems used to raise money on?
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03-24-2021, 07:56 PM
The real money grab, with more spending and higher taxes on the way.
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03-25-2021, 09:16 AM
(03-24-2021, 05:23 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:(03-24-2021, 11:06 AM)The Outsider Wrote: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...t-n1261431
An NBC News analysis of campaign finance filings found that in the five weeks after the election, those charged in the Capitol riot increased their political donations by about 75 percent compared to the five weeks leading up to the election. Many had made very few or no donations at all in previous years, but they began escalating their numbers of contributions as Trump was trying to overturn Joe Biden's victory.
Trump and his aligned groups, including the Republican National Committee, raised $207.5 million in the 19 days after the election.
Wilson, the Republican digital strategist, chalked up the riot to people who were gullible.
"I don't know that there's a bigger story to tell other than there are a lot of dumb people in the world," he said. "And a lot of them stormed the Capitol on January 6th."
Oh I don't know. I think Dems prosecuting a lockstep war of lies and resistance from within the US Congress for 4 years, is a fairly big story myself. And let's face it, now that the left feel they have sufficiently destroyed Trump, the next target would be those who refuse to join the lynch mob. Hence the story of your sourcing.
And excuse me there Outsider but in general, quoting from stories written by the same media that carried the water and gave said resistance cover for the whole period not to mention the before and after, seems a bit less than credible to boot. Do I really need to put up the list of issues (like the Bret Kanvaugh confirmation hearings) that the Dems used to raise money on?
You make a good point, the Dems have been guilty of this over and over as well.
03-25-2021, 11:34 AM
(03-24-2021, 07:56 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: The real money grab, with more spending and higher taxes on the way.Quooter not only your are a Liar but also a hypocrite
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Dear Leader added 8 trillion to the debt(and the final tally has not come in yet) how much has every taxpayer lost ?
03-25-2021, 12:55 PM
(03-25-2021, 11:34 AM)vector#1 Wrote:Dear, Comrade vector, former President Trump is no longer president. I know that you don't like looking forward any further than your next government check, but I expect that you will never stop blaming Trump for current and future Democrat failures.(03-24-2021, 07:56 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: The real money grab, with more spending and higher taxes on the way.Quooter not only your are a Liar but also a hypocrite
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Dear Leader added 8 trillion to the debt(and the final tally has not come in yet) how much has every taxpayer lost ?
As a net consumer of government services, I know that you could not care less about the burden our federal government places on those of us who foot the bill for your laziness, but can you not find some way to contribute more to our society than sitting around in your pajamas all day typing out the same hatred of your country day after day? The least you could do is show some gratitude for the Americans who are pulling the cart in which you are riding.
03-25-2021, 01:25 PM
(03-25-2021, 12:55 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Dear Quooter after 4 years of silence of all the debt your Dear Leader has left now all of a sudden you are concerned why ?(03-25-2021, 11:34 AM)vector#1 Wrote:Dear, Comrade vector, former President Trump is no longer president. I know that you don't like looking forward any further than your next government check, but I expect that you will never stop blaming Trump for current and future Democrat failures.(03-24-2021, 07:56 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: The real money grab, with more spending and higher taxes on the way.Quooter not only your are a Liar but also a hypocrite
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Dear Leader added 8 trillion to the debt(and the final tally has not come in yet) how much has every taxpayer lost ?
As a net consumer of government services, I know that you could not care less about the burden our federal government places on those of us who foot the bill for your laziness, but can you not find some way to contribute more to our society than sitting around in your pajamas all day typing out the same hatred of your country day after day? The least you could do is show some gratitude for the Americans who are pulling the cart in which you are riding.
03-25-2021, 03:33 PM
(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
Cardfan made that point a bunch of times on here, and all you did was repeat it. Which is all you've ever got as I have pointed out before. Chirp chirp chirp, from the guy whose never had the first original thought. Note: not that Cardfan didn't pick the idea up himself from Mother Jones.

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Quooter your President gave his news conference hope you watched
That's what a real Leader look's like. This has been missing the last 4 years
Now all of a sudden you and Quooter have your panties in a wade we just want a explanation after having your lips glued together
last 4 years
That's what a real Leader look's like. This has been missing the last 4 years
(03-25-2021, 03:33 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:TRT you have been quit last 4 years of all the debt your Dear Leader has added(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
Cardfan made that point a bunch of times on here, and all you did was repeat it. Which is all you've ever got as I have pointed out before. Chirp chirp chirp, from the guy whose never had the first original thought. Note: not that Cardfan didn't pick the idea up himself from Mother Jones. :)
Now all of a sudden you and Quooter have your panties in a wade we just want a explanation after having your lips glued together
last 4 years
03-25-2021, 04:27 PM
https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
Trump had the third-biggest primary deficit growth, 5.2% of GDP, behind only George W. Bush (11.7%) and Abraham Lincoln (9.4%). Bush, of course, not only passed a big tax cut, as Trump has, but also launched two wars, which greatly inflated the defense budget. Lincoln had to pay for the Civil War. By contrast, Trump’s wars have been almost entirely of the political variety.
Trump is only behind Obama as far as total dollars added to the deficit, but I guess he can brag that he was able to do it in half the time as Obama.
Trump's biggest contribution to the deficit is probably when he lowered the Corporate tax rate by 40%. I really do not feel like that benefited the average American very much.
Trump had the third-biggest primary deficit growth, 5.2% of GDP, behind only George W. Bush (11.7%) and Abraham Lincoln (9.4%). Bush, of course, not only passed a big tax cut, as Trump has, but also launched two wars, which greatly inflated the defense budget. Lincoln had to pay for the Civil War. By contrast, Trump’s wars have been almost entirely of the political variety.
Trump is only behind Obama as far as total dollars added to the deficit, but I guess he can brag that he was able to do it in half the time as Obama.

03-25-2021, 05:42 PM
(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are a liar, but you know that better than anybody. I understood the spending but I did not support the spending. I am a conservative. Trump is a populist - far more conservative than the most conservative Democrat in Washington, but he is still not a conservative, IMO. I will support the most conservative Republican with a chance to win the presidency in 2024 and that will likely not be Trump.(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
So, keep cashing those welfare checks as you blame Trump for plunging this nation deeper into debt. At least Trump worked hard over the past four years and made some positive contributions to this country. You? Not so much. Loser.
(03-25-2021, 05:42 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Why didn't you tell us how much the 8 trillion debt your Dear Leader added to the taxpayer.(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are a liar, but you know that better than anybody. I understood the spending but I did not support the spending. I am a conservative. Trump is a populist - far more conservative than the most conservative Democrat in Washington, but he is still not a conservative, IMO. I will support the most conservative Republican with a chance to win the presidency in 2024 and that will likely not be Trump.(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
So, keep cashing those welfare checks as you blame Trump for plunging this nation deeper into debt. At least Trump worked hard over the past four years and made some positive contributions to this country. You? Not so much. Loser.
Instead you and TRT kept your mouths shut why ?
If that's not the definition of a Hypocrite then prove me wrong Quooter
And by the way i didn't blame Dear Leader for plunging this nation deeper in debt the numbers are what they are
So that would make you a Liar and a Hypocrite
P.S. Just what positive contributions you claim the Dear Leader done ?
Sh!t he tried to burn it down before he left Hate to see what you claim is a negative contributions is Quooter
03-25-2021, 07:43 PM
(03-25-2021, 06:46 PM)vector#1 Wrote:Welfare loafers like you don't care about the deficit. Stop pretending that you do. If you did care, you would stop trying to defect attention away from the most recent so-called stimulus package and the imbecile who is responsible for signing it into law. Get a job and start looking toward the future.(03-25-2021, 05:42 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:Why didn't you tell us how much the 8 trillion debt your Dear Leader added to the taxpayer.(03-11-2021, 03:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote:You are a liar, but you know that better than anybody. I understood the spending but I did not support the spending. I am a conservative. Trump is a populist - far more conservative than the most conservative Democrat in Washington, but he is still not a conservative, IMO. I will support the most conservative Republican with a chance to win the presidency in 2024 and that will likely not be Trump.(03-10-2021, 09:02 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:You supported the spending only when a republican is doing it(03-10-2021, 08:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote: We have finally got us a real Attorney GeneralYou guys are really too much. You support all of the stimulus spending, including all of the non-pandemic related pork that Pelosi demanded as part of the deal and not the deficit is all Trump's fault. It makes no sense but it is par for the course for you two. I would call you frauds but that would be too strong an insult for mere fraudsters.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-b...r-5-months
Another big mess the Dear Leader has left us
So, keep cashing those welfare checks as you blame Trump for plunging this nation deeper into debt. At least Trump worked hard over the past four years and made some positive contributions to this country. You? Not so much. Loser.
Instead you and TRT kept your mouths shut why ?
If that's not the definition of a Hypocrite then prove me wrong Quooter
And by the way i didn't blame Dear Leader for plunging this nation deeper in debt the numbers are what they are
So that would make you a Liar and a Hypocrite
P.S. Just what positive contributions you claim the Dear Leader done ?
Sh!t he tried to burn it down before he left Hate to see what you claim is a negative contributions is Quooter
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03-26-2021, 12:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2021, 12:37 AM by TheRealThing.)
(03-25-2021, 04:27 PM)The Outsider Wrote: https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
Trump had the third-biggest primary deficit growth, 5.2% of GDP, behind only George W. Bush (11.7%) and Abraham Lincoln (9.4%). Bush, of course, not only passed a big tax cut, as Trump has, but also launched two wars, which greatly inflated the defense budget. Lincoln had to pay for the Civil War. By contrast, Trump’s wars have been almost entirely of the political variety.
Trump is only behind Obama as far as total dollars added to the deficit, but I guess he can brag that he was able to do it in half the time as Obama.Trump's biggest contribution to the deficit is probably when he lowered the Corporate tax rate by 40%. I really do not feel like that benefited the average American very much.
I didn't say a lot about the deficit during the Trump era. Economists said the growth we saw associated with his policies would more than offset the increase in spending for that time period. As of March of 2020 and by all indications that did look to be the case. We did see the best employment numbers for sure since Reagan and maybe ever. Best ever employment for minorities and women. Home values went up substantially, we became energy independent, manufacturing was looking up as was the banking sector. One of the biggest drivers of the borrowing we did was due to a military which compared to it's former glory, looked like a bunch of hobos with sharp sticks. That situation had to be rectified.
There is only one reason America did not get to see all of the things promised come to pass. Covid-19. What started to be 15 days to slow the spread has since become 15 months to slow the economy dead. Trump screamed his head off about it but states are sovereign in this union, and governors did their thing. An aside on that... Where it came to defying the President's wishes on opening back up Dem governors all of a sudden, were all about the Founder's view regarding state's sovereignty. But now they're back to doing whatever the 'guidance' to put it politely, is coming out of the Oval. Funny thing how that works for Dems is it not?
At any rate, the average American likely was not benefited all that much, but I would have been very interested to see where we all stood on that point by 2024. Notwithstanding, the stock market did do well, many floundering pension programs were restored, 401k's and savings were up as well. But now the blue states awash in mismanaged budget crisis to include Kentucky, even if it does always go red for presidents, did get bailed out by the 2 trillion stimulus. And every taxpayer has a 14 thousand dollar note to pay off as the result. Borrowing for the US military is one thing (and I know that one issue does not account for the entirety of the borrowing) but borrowing for the sake of handing it out to poorly run state government is a travesty. Taxpayers are not to be treated like piñatas.
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04-03-2021, 08:38 PM
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/...05593.html
Ken Burns weighs in on the Big Lie.
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns, known for expansive movies on quintessential American subjects like "Jazz" and "Baseball," said in a new interview that former President Donald Trump and his allies have damaged the country by promoting the "big lie" of widespread election fraud — and worse yet, they've made money off of it.
Ken Burns weighs in on the Big Lie.
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns, known for expansive movies on quintessential American subjects like "Jazz" and "Baseball," said in a new interview that former President Donald Trump and his allies have damaged the country by promoting the "big lie" of widespread election fraud — and worse yet, they've made money off of it.
04-04-2021, 01:17 AM
(04-03-2021, 08:38 PM)The Outsider Wrote: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/...05593.html
Ken Burns weighs in on the Big Lie.
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns, known for expansive movies on quintessential American subjects like "Jazz" and "Baseball," said in a new interview that former President Donald Trump and his allies have damaged the country by promoting the "big lie" of widespread election fraud — and worse yet, they've made money off of it.
And Trump and his cronies and sycophants couldn't care less about damaging the country.
ME: " I have always enjoyed Burns' unique and thoughtful perspective on Americana.
REPUBLICANS: "Who needs Burns' perspective when we have catturd ?"
04-04-2021, 10:24 AM
04-04-2021, 05:24 PM
(04-04-2021, 10:24 AM)vector#1 Wrote: More from the Con Man
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...d=msedgntp
Wow, what a scam.
04-04-2021, 08:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-04-2021, 08:31 PM by TheRealThing.)
(04-03-2021, 08:38 PM)The Outsider Wrote: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/...05593.html
Ken Burns weighs in on the Big Lie.
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns, known for expansive movies on quintessential American subjects like "Jazz" and "Baseball," said in a new interview that former President Donald Trump and his allies have damaged the country by promoting the "big lie" of widespread election fraud — and worse yet, they've made money off of it.
Oh, see I get confused. I see the left out burning down towns and committing all manner of property destruction and I start to think, the price tag for all the anarchy is in the trillions and counting. Not to mention the small businesses and lives destroyed by the loss of a life's work invested in building those businesses; or personal injury, even death. Autonomy zones declared on the people's property and etc. I thought that was damaging the country.
Then you guys explain it all to me and now I realize it was really Trump out doing this stuff all along. Whew! Who knew after declining to accept a pay check for the past 4 years he was secretly planning to make money off a big lie.
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04-04-2021, 08:42 PM
(04-04-2021, 08:24 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:(04-03-2021, 08:38 PM)The Outsider Wrote: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/...05593.html
Ken Burns weighs in on the Big Lie.
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns, known for expansive movies on quintessential American subjects like "Jazz" and "Baseball," said in a new interview that former President Donald Trump and his allies have damaged the country by promoting the "big lie" of widespread election fraud — and worse yet, they've made money off of it.
Oh, see I get confused. I see the left out burning down towns and committing all manner of property destruction and I start to think, the price tag for all the anarchy is in the trillions and counting. Not to mention the small businesses and lives destroyed by the loss of a life's work invested in building those businesses; or personal injury, even death. Autonomy zones declared on the people's property and etc. I thought that was damaging the country.
Then you guys explain it all to me and now I realize it was really Trump out doing this stuff all along. Whew! Who knew after declining to accept a pay check for the past 4 years he was secretly planning to make money off a big lie.
Trump was President and should be held to a much higher standard than the one he set. He's always been a flim flam man and always will be. He has profited more while in office from his position that arguably any prior President. Now whether he will profit more than the others after leaving office is doubtful at this time, so that is why is is scheming to get every dollar he can to try and escape his financial house of cards falling down around him.
04-04-2021, 09:06 PM
(04-03-2021, 08:38 PM)The Outsider Wrote: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/...05593.htmlA 3rd grader knows better than this idiotic post. "Hey guys, look what Ken Burns said."
Ken Burns weighs in on the Big Lie.
Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns, known for expansive movies on quintessential American subjects like "Jazz" and "Baseball," said in a new interview that former President Donald Trump and his allies have damaged the country by promoting the "big lie" of widespread election fraud — and worse yet, they've made money off of it.
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