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Is Cordia still in question for next year 2018-19
#61
cj2561 Wrote:I am going to us Perry Co. Central. the kids from Leatherwood have to get on the bus at 4 AM to make it to school on time. you take these same kids, how many of them played sport, not many, I would say a lot more of them want to played sports. the few that does played sports, they spin around 16 hours a day away from home. but on the other side of the county there is Buckhorn High School, with about 240 kids from K-12 in it. with all the talk that perry co schools don't have any money, I have never heard them said they are going to close Buckhorn down.

The bus could take them to Lexington if they got on it that early.
You can look it up - it's 19.2 miles from Cordia to Knott Central and 9 miles from Cordia to Perry Central (where 100 of the 230 kids live). There are kids in Harlan County traveling 25 to 30 miles to high school and probably about the same in Perry and a few others, and our mountains are a whole lot taller than Knott County.
I've heard quite a bit a talk about Buckhorn closing at some point, even from Buckhorn people, and they have 140 kids in high school, not 88, so probably closer to 400 in K-12.
#62
zaga_fan Wrote:My wife is from Leatherwood and got on the bus at 6:45 when she was in school. There are some places closer to the county lines where the kids would get on earlier, but no one is getting on the bus at 4am. Buckhorn's enrollment is closer to double what cj2561 quoted than 240. Basically everything in his post is wrong and he has some kind of vendetta against Perry County Schools. Please overlook him.

i just going by what some of the kids is saying about what time they have to get on the bus. and buckhorn ok I was off by 100... https://high-schools.com/directory/ky/cities/buckhorn/........
#63
cj2561 Wrote:i just going by what some of the kids is saying about what time they have to get on the bus. and buckhorn ok I was off by 100... https://high-schools.com/directory/ky/cities/buckhorn/........

You're not going off anything anyone said. You're making stuff up to complain.
#64
zaga_fan Wrote:You're not going off anything anyone said. You're making stuff up to complain.

you see right though me. I made everything I have every said up on here. but let look back at the last thing I said on here. someone said on here that Hazard hire Larry as the new girl coach. (if that is true), I post I heard that Larry was going to be the new girl coach over a month ago. so I guess I am making stuff up to complain about. but the thing is, every when I went to PCC. I could care less about PCC. that is way I always have call it Perry Co Central Commowhore…… I just can't believe that no one else, have not though of it. I come up with that name, my 7th grade years, about 4 or 5 mins after they name the mascot.
#65
cj2561 Wrote:you see right though me. I made everything I have every said up on here. but let look back at the last thing I said on here. someone said on here that Hazard hire Larry as the new girl coach. (if that is true), I post I heard that Larry was going to be the new girl coach over a month ago. so I guess I am making stuff up to complain about. but the thing is, every when I went to PCC. I could care less about PCC. that is way I always have call it Perry Co Central Commowhore…… I just can't believe that no one else, have not though of it. I come up with that name, my 7th grade years, about 4 or 5 mins after they name the mascot.

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#66
I have really been out of the loop lately on this issue. Is Cordia going to field a team in 2018? If not, are players transferring, and if so, where? Sorry for questions as I sure they have already been answered. Just did not feel like going back though a hundred posts. With the number of kids from out of state and such that Cordia has on a consistent basis if they transfer it will impact the balance of power in the 14th in the next couple seasons at least as I suppose they will transfer to either Knott, PCC, or Hazard, if they stay in state.
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#67
TheBrahmaBull Wrote:I have really been out of the loop lately on this issue. Is Cordia going to field a team in 2018? If not, are players transferring, and if so, where? Sorry for questions as I sure they have already been answered. Just did not feel like going back though a hundred posts. With the number of kids from out of state and such that Cordia has on a consistent basis if they transfer it will impact the balance of power in the 14th in the next couple seasons at least as I suppose they will transfer to either Knott, PCC, or Hazard, if they stay in state.

I don't think Cordia was ever NOT going to field a team.
They were going to terminate the lease with the Lotts Creek Community School and move the high school to Hindman, right next to the gym.

This may have changed the look of the team drastically, because I don't know if the kids in the dorms would still be around or not. But they were going to have a school and a team in a different building.
#68
Thank you for the reply.
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#69
I don't think moving the high school to Hindman was an option - that was knocked out last year. Either the school was going to close or stay open another year - the court ruled the Knott board had to keep it open, at least for one more year.
#70
I wish the best for the kids regardless of if they play sports or not. They deserve to get an education in a "clean" , "safe" environment. Of course both clean and safe are both relative to who you ask.
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#71
Hey Zaga....did you feel unsafe or dirty when you was up a here a few weeks ago?
#72
Willie_Mays_Hayes Wrote:Hey Zaga....did you feel unsafe or dirty when you was up a here a few weeks ago?

Everything looked like fine.
Admittedly, the auditorium/cafeteria was blocked off and I know the roof above that room was the biggest concern.

I just went back and looked at the order and it stated, "the roof of the auditorium was about to collapse; poor water pressure; electrical safety violations; food-safety violations such as leaking canned goods; and rodent “fecal matter” above a suspended ceiling in the kitchen."

Those issues definitely need to be addressed, although I would wager it would be hard to find a school in Kentucky where there isn't mouse droppings in the ceiling.

The water pressure and electrical issues can probably (and may already) be swiftly addressed.
#73
[Image: https://i.imgflip.com/2f7y72.jpg] Baby CT sent new inspector over to check the building out agian! SMH. Cafeteria blocked off troubles ole Fatpat cause the cafeteria ought to be wide freaking open brutha! Ole Fatpat walked on the roof few months back and that mutha started snapping like ole Fatapat on a corncob! Dont know if was the big guy on da roof or the roof ready to pop baby! #foodprobelmsandroofsdontmix More mash taters please!!!
#74
Just to keep everyone in the loop that hasn't followed this one in the news...

Yesterday, jobs were posted online to staff the school. That came after an order from the state at another hearing.

Evidently the school doesn't have a staff.
#75
WYMT reported an appeal has been filed. How many students were actually enrolled for the 2019 school year?
#76
Knott County is scheduled to start school on the 15th. So there are several decisions that have to made quickly so that students will not be impacted.
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#77
HCS Wrote:WYMT reported an appeal has been filed. How many students were actually enrolled for the 2019 school year?
And from what I have learned most decisions involving many people made hastily usually have unintended consequences.
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#78
If 100 of the 235 students actually live in Perry, all they have to do is catch a bus. What is the closest elementary school?
#79
HCS Wrote:If 100 of the 235 students actually live in Perry, all they have to do is catch a bus. What is the closest elementary school?

I'd say 30 minutes to Emmalena in a car.
#80
That's for the ones who live in Knott. What about the 45 percent who live in Perry?
#81
zaga_fan Wrote:I'd say 30 minutes to Emmalena in a car.

Carr Creek would be closer in Knott County, about 15 to 20 minutes from the Cordia school. RW Combs Elementary would be the school in Peery, but not sure if that school is open now that east and west Perry operate.
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#82
A little less than 12 miles from Cordia to both East Perry and R.W. Combs, according to Google. Of course, if they already live in Perry it would be more like 5 miles or less.
It said 10 miles to Emmalea and 15 to Carr Creek - I guess it depends on what side of Cordia they live.
#83
HCS Wrote:A little less than 12 miles from Cordia to both East Perry and R.W. Combs, according to Google. Of course, if they already live in Perry it would be more like 5 miles or less.
It said 10 miles to Emmalea and 15 to Carr Creek - I guess it depends on what side of Cordia they live.
Good work HCS
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#84
23 minutes to Emmalena
24 minutes to Carr Creek
20 minutes to RW
19 minutes to Hazard Middle School
22 minutes to Hazard High School
22 minutes to East Perry

There is the google drive times from Cordia to the nearest schools.
I'm sure there would be a bus ride available for any kid regardless of what county they're located it. They would just have to go to the school for their district.

But unless I'm mistaken here, this is all just an exercise in futility talking about bus rides and drive times because the courts say this school has to remain open.
#85
(WYMT) - Update August 3, 2018
The plan to fully staff Cordia by the first day of school was supposed to be presented in court next Wednesday, August 8.

Attorneys said the Knott County Board of Education filed an emergency motion in the Kentucky Court of Appeals to overturn the ruling keeping Cordia open.

Officials working to keep the school open must respond by next Tuesday, August 7.
#86
I'm aware of the appeal that was filed.

I've not followed this as closely as I would have in years past since I'm not working at WYMT anymore, but I would say the likelihood of this getting successfully appealed before school starts is less likely than a judge charging the entire Knott County Board of Education with contempt or violating the restraining order.
#87
Here's the burning question everyone wants to know...

Since (as of now) the state is forcing Knott BOE to extend this contract with Lotts Creek Community School, do they still get their dollar?
#88
Well, it's not the state, it's the Franklin court, but it is a strange situation. The state department of education has never blocked a school closing (that I can remember) and has generally encouraged them.
I'm guessing Knott would argue it's not up to the Franklin Circuit Court to tell a school district in eastern Kentucky how to spend its money. Every other public county school district high school the size of Cordia was closed years ago. Cordia is the 16th smallest high school in the state - all the others are private, except Silver Grove, which is independent.
#89
HCS Wrote:Well, it's not the state, it's the Franklin court, but it is a strange situation. The state department of education has never blocked a school closing (that I can remember) and has generally encouraged them.
I'm guessing Knott would argue it's not up to the Franklin Circuit Court to tell a school district in eastern Kentucky how to spend its money. Every other public county school district high school the size of Cordia was closed years ago. Cordia is the 16th smallest high school in the state - all the others are private, except Silver Grove, which is independent.

I screwed up the verbiage there, the state wanted them out of the building to begin with.

Cordia has been granted restraining orders against the KHSAA in Franklin Circuit Court and they've never failed. They've been appealed all the way to federal court and the lawyers know what they're doing.
#90
Cordia did have to forfeit all of its games in 2014 and didn't play in tournament competition in 2015 and 2016, so the KHSAA must have won something there.
Pillersdorf must be pretty good though, I will agree with that. I've seen many supporters of closing schools use the "it will hurt our community and will be rough on the kids argument" and they always lose.

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