[Patriot1]

Uh ok. I’m all for the new guy getting a shot but as long as Raceland and Paintsville remain at or near their current levels, which it looks like they will, they are 1 and 2 in the region every year.

I disagree that this will be their easiest path. The east is the best side of the state with the above 2 are ready mentioned along with Hazard and Pikeville.

[tebow]

I’m glad Betsy Layne moved down to 1A. Playing against district 5 is a lot easier than playing Danville, LCA, and Somerset.

[KYHSFB]

I’m glad Betsy Layne moved down to 1A. Playing against district 5 is a lot easier than playing Danville, LCA, and Somerset.

They’d be in the EKY districts. Stupid move

[WILDCAT NATION]

They’d be in the EKY districts. Stupid move

They will be with Fairview, Raceland, and Paintsville. They can possibly compete with Fairview some years.

[64black&gold]

I don't think anyone got hosed as bad a Garrard County. Really don't understand their grouping at all.

[Cat Daddy]

With Breathitt dropping to 2A, they will have a much easier road to the finals. I understand the bobcats have been down for the past four or five years, but things are looking up in the future. The Lumberjack/feeder program has been running well for the past four years and the bobcat program will see a major turn around in about three or four years when these kids are sophomores and juniors. Also, Prestonsburg seems to be on the decline and Leslie County seems to be an average team, year in and year out. So, making it to a regional championship, and state semi final shouldn't be out of reach. I personally would rather play Prestonsburg than Corbin in the regional final, and I would much rather play Beechwood in the state semi final, than Belfry.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

With Breathitt dropping to 2A, they will have a much easier road to the finals. I understand the bobcats have been down for the past four or five years, but things are looking up in the future. The Lumberjack/feeder program has been running well for the past four years and the bobcat program will see a major turn around in about three or four years when these kids are sophomores and juniors. Also, Prestonsburg seems to be on the decline and Leslie County seems to be an average team, year in and year out. So, making it to a regional championship, and state semi final shouldn't be out of reach. I personally would rather play Prestonsburg than Corbin in the regional final, and I would much rather play Beechwood in the state semi final, than Belfry.

CatDaddy....how is the peewee program in Breathitt doing?

[HADDIXHOUNDS]

You are going to have to Beat good teams to win a Championship in any Class!
I think teams should have to play in the class, the numbers put them in.
No playing up or playing down!

[PRIDE101]

Nobody plays down, and you do have to beat good teams to win, but 4A has a ton of them in it. Maybe this is Haddix reasoning for looking at BG.

[HADDIXHOUNDS]

Yes teams do get an option to play down a class if another team plays up a class.
East Jessamine, Highlands played up. So the 2 lowest 5A teams got the option to play DOWN. Johnson Central was one of those teams.

[PRIDE101]

Yes teams do get an option to play down a class if another team plays up a class.
East Jessamine, Highlands played up. So the 2 lowest 5A teams got the option to play DOWN. Johnson Central was one of those teams.

It is not an option to play down when you are put there. The option is to go up. Word game but it get what you are saying.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Personally....if the enrollment is close...and the geography creates a financial burden...I really don't have an issue. Especially if it's involving a school/schools in Eastern part of the state. The economy is in such flux that it's very possible that enrollment numbers could drop even further by 2019. Sheldon Clark is just one example of a school district completely imploding due to the economic turmoil the area is experiencing.

[thecoacher]

Ashland has to be happy. Moved down a class, lost Johnson Central as district game, kept East Carter and Greenup.

Mason Co. has a pretty good path to district title each year.

West Carter got hosed. Should be in 2a Distrct 8.

I don't know what Betsy Lane situation was before, but I'm gonna guess it was a lot easier than Paintsville, Raceland, Fairview as their district.

2a Districts 7 and 8 are extremely weak.

District 7- Breathitt County, Knott County Central, Leslie County, Middlesboro
District 8- Bath County, East Ridge, Morgan County, Prestonsburg, Shelby Valley, Sheldon Clark

I agree with you about West Carter and I think they will petition to get that fixed.

I think Fleming County came out better than Mason, to be honest. They are losing Russell from the district and they have been on a roll vs Mason as of late.

[Explorer]

I agree with you about West Carter and I think they will petition to get that fixed.

I think Fleming County came out better than Mason, to be honest. They are losing Russell from the district and they have been on a roll vs Mason as of late.

How does petitioning work? If they won, would another team be moved back up to 3a?

[OutlawJoseyWales]

3A will remain very competitive despite Boyle, Corbin and a few others moving to 4A.

Dist 1: Tilghman will probably be the favorite
Dist 2: Look for Glasgow to be the team to beat
Dist 3: E-town will be rebuilding to an extent...but should be the favorite
Dist 4: District will be a brawl. Garrard got hammered in my opinion
Dist 5: Bell or Rockcastle....the rest will be fighting to stay out of the bottom
Dist 6: IMO, the easiest district in 3A. Not a good team in it.
Dist 7: After some initial shuffling....I think Blazer will be the favorite
Dist 8: Belfry

4A will be interesting....
Dist 1: Hop-town
Dist 2: As long as Preston is at the helm, Franklin Simpson should control this district
Dist 3: John Hardin
Dist 4: I don't see anyone challenging Louisville Central
Dist 5: Tough District. Boyle will be the favorite. Bourbon Co is toast
Dist 6: Wide open. simply not a lot of good teams. no favorite. may be worst district
in 4A
Dist 7: If Haddix stays in Corbin...they'll be the prohibitive favorite
Dist 8: Johnson Central

[thecoacher]

How does petitioning work? If they won, would another team be moved back up to 3a?

Really not sure. I just heard they were suppose to be 2A and were misled about what district they would be in. I also heard Morgan was asking to be moved to a different district, so that would open a spot for West Carter in that district.

[Explorer]

Really not sure. I just heard they were suppose to be 2A and were misled about what district they would be in. I also heard Morgan was asking to be moved to a different district, so that would open a spot for West Carter in that district.

It was "implied" that if West was 2a, they would be in a district with Beechwood.

[Orange Blaze]

Even though they waxed us in the state title game this past year, I think losing Beechwood is a bad loss for 1A. Granted other teams will have a better opportunity to win but it waters down the competition and imo cheapens the championship when you take away strong teams.

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

They didn't mind winning It after Mayfield went to 2a

[Orange Blaze]

They didn't mind winning It after Mayfield went to 2a

This may be true but I still stand by what I said. Winning a trophy is nice but if you are only winning because the team that you couldn't beat left can you honestly say that you were the best?

[TheHotSnakes]

This may be true but I still stand by what I said. Winning a trophy is nice but if you are only winning because the team that you couldn't beat left can you honestly say that you were the best?

If you win your class, then you can say you're the best in that class. So, yeah. That's a pretty weak argument. If you beat everyone you have to beat, you're the best. If you don't, you aren't.

[Single Wing 77]

It is not an option to play down when you are put there. The option is to go up. Word game but it get what you are saying.

When a team decides to play up a class, the bottom three teams in said class are given the opportunity to play down in ascending order. First the smallest team is offered. If they pass, the second smallest team is offered. So it is an option. They are not forced to play in the lower class.

[TheHotSnakes]

When a team decides to play up a class, the bottom three teams in said class are given the opportunity to play down in ascending order. First the smallest team is offered. If they pass, the second smallest team is offered. So it is an option. They are not forced to play in the lower class.

But it's not really in the hands of the team wanting to play down. If no one requests to play up, then it's not an option. Have teams played down? Yes. But, teams don't just get to play down because they want to.

[Orange Blaze]

If you win your class, then you can say you're the best in that class. So, yeah. That's a pretty weak argument. If you beat everyone you have to beat, you're the best. If you don't, you aren't.

That doesn't change that fact that there are teams that will win by default because the better teams aren't there anymore. Sure you can say you are the best in that class but you if you are only winning because the better teams aren't there anymore does it really make you a strong team? You are the best because you beat the best not because the system helped you out. And yes I would say the same thing if my team (Raceland) were to win at title after Beechwood leaves.

[TheHotSnakes]

That doesn't change that fact that there are teams that will win by default because the better teams aren't there anymore. Sure you can say you are the best in that class but you if you are only winning because the better teams aren't there anymore does it really make you a strong team? You are the best because you beat the best not because the system helped you out. And yes I would say the same thing if my team (Raceland) were to win at title after Beechwood leaves.

If you're crowning a 1A champion, your goal is to beat every 1A team you play. Period. If you don't, you won't win a championship. The teams have zero control over who is or isn't in their class. In the post Beechwood era, will there be an asterisk on the trophy that says *Didn't have to play Beechwood, so it means less?



You're right, that you are the best because that's who you have beaten, but we aren't crowning overall champions in this state. So, as long as you beat the best teams in your class, you're the best.

[Hatz]

That doesn't change that fact that there are teams that will win by default because the better teams aren't there anymore. Sure you can say you are the best in that class but you if you are only winning because the better teams aren't there anymore does it really make you a strong team? You are the best because you beat the best not because the system helped you out. And yes I would say the same thing if my team (Raceland) were to win at title after Beechwood leaves.

Do you feel that way about Beechwood when Mayfield moved up?

What about Mayfield when Danville moved up?

What about Boyle when Danville moved down? (1999 and following)

[Snakesnot]

Do you feel that way about Beechwood when Mayfield moved up?

What about Mayfield when Danville moved up?

What about Boyle when Danville moved down? (1999 and following)

Not sure Danville would have been a factor in that time period.

If you beat the teams in your class and you got the Gold Ball...you're the champ

[TheHotSnakes]

Not sure Danville would have been a factor in that time period.

If you beat the teams in your class and you got the Gold Ball...you're the champ

But, what about the Golden Ticket?

[Snakesnot]

But, what about the Golden Ticket?

What do you mean?

[Big Daddy Bull]

Scott County, imo came out the best of anyone, dropping down a class, and will have open enrollment so will lose very little if any players off of there rosters- McKee and his staff have a hold on the whole county- A Coach would be nuts in my opinion to try to come in and take the new school job with open enrollment- I think Lafayette is the only non-catholic school to beat them in like the last 3 years, and yes they played and beat Covingon Catholic in '15 and '16- Covington for some reason decided not to renew the contract for '17 and '18, that's why they picked up Moeller