[Creeker]

^ That's my understanding as well... Heard they even have to practice at the sportsplex, which seems crazy to me.

[Sports72]

Super Region it will be!!

[Blacksmith]

and here it is.......
http://www.wymt.com/content/sports/New-1...ml?refresh
District 57 – Johnson Central, Magoffin County, Paintsville, Sheldon Clark
District 58 – Betsy Layne, Floyd Central, Lawrence County, Prestonsburg
District 59 – East Ridge, Jenkins, Pikeville, Shelby Valley
District 60 – Belfry, Phelps, Pike County Central, Piarist

[Hornet dad]

and here it is.......
http://www.wymt.com/content/sports/New-1...ml?refresh
District 57 – Johnson Central, Magoffin County, Paintsville, Sheldon Clark
District 58 – Betsy Layne, Floyd Central, Lawrence County, Prestonsburg
District 59 – East Ridge, Jenkins, Pikeville, Shelby Valley
District 60 – Belfry, Phelps, Pike County Central, Piarist

How do you put Lawrence in the 58th and piarist in the 60th. Makes no sense.

[Big Don]

The best Lawrence Co. Bball days are behind them unless they raid the Tolsia & Huntington again soon.

[LCHSbulldogsalum]

The best Lawrence Co. Bball days are behind them unless they raid the Tolsia & Huntington again soon.

Funny. Keep hating. :lame:

JC, Paintsville, Pikeville, PCC, Belfry....none of those teams have ever had a transfer or two.....:eyeroll:

[Pulp Fiction]

and here it is.......
http://www.wymt.com/content/sports/New-1...ml?refresh
District 57 – Johnson Central, Magoffin County, Paintsville, Sheldon Clark
District 58 – Betsy Layne, Floyd Central, Lawrence County, Prestonsburg
District 59 – East Ridge, Jenkins, Pikeville, Shelby Valley
District 60 – Belfry, Phelps, Pike County Central, Piarist

The 15th region is probably one of most spread-out regions in the state.... I know some other regions can say they are the 'largest', but I would say the 15th has to be in the Top 2 or 3 of being the largest land area.

With that said, unless some teams get moved out (Lawrence County to the 16th) or something along those lines.... this might be the best we get for awhile.

I am surprised to see Jenkins moved to the 15th.

[Big Don]

ER. SV, Pikeville, Pike Central, Belfry, are pretty close, little over an hour to Phelps is why they went to 15th.

[FrozenColonel]

This makes the most sense but we know common sense does not prevail. LCC, Jenkins, SV, and ER in a district. Pikeville, Belfry, PCC, and Phelps. FCC, P'burg, BL, and Magoffin. JC, Paintsville, Piarist, and SC. There's the 15th region.

The issue then becomes where does Lawrence fit back into the 16th? Without any restructure you would have a 5 team district of Ashland, Boyd Co, Fairview, Rose Hill, and Lawrence Co. OR LC, East and West Carter, Elliott Co, and Morgan Co. If the persistant rumors of Fairview consolidating with Boyd Co ever come true then problem solved. Until then your unbalancing a balanced region to balance another.

The whole state needs to be re-drawn...or do 5 or 6 team districts like football. Top 4 go to the playoffs. Everyone below that does not.

This is the best alignment i have seen. I have thought this makes the most swnse for a while now. I am glad i am not the only one that thought this. But as somone else has already said comkon sense is pretty rare nowadays.

[LCHSbulldogsalum]

This is the best alignment i have seen. I have thought this makes the most swnse for a while now. I am glad i am not the only one that thought this. But as somone else has already said comkon sense is pretty rare nowadays.

Have any of you looked at the travel for LC if they were to return to the 16th? The total miles would be MORE than if they were in the 15th region. I don't see where so many people think LC to the 16th is the "best".....it's not for travel purposes. But, nobody cares about LC......:Thumbs:

Here's the numbers:

Travel (in miles) to the 16 teams in the 16th Region = 950 Miles (avg. 59 miles per team)

Travel (in miles) to the 15 teams in the 15th Region = 863 Miles (avg. 57.5 miles per team)

Amazing how some don't know this........or don't care to find it out. nicker:

[Conductor]

How do you put Lawrence in the 58th and piarist in the 60th. Makes no sense.

Does anyone up there really know what's going on with this bizzare alignment ? I'm just curious given I'm not from the area .. Why is Lawrence Co " shipped out" across the Johnson co district ? Is there something going on politically ? And if so , why ?

[Big Don]

Does anyone up there really know what's going on with this bizzare alignment ? I'm just curious given I'm not from the area .. Why is Lawrence Co " shipped out" across the Johnson co district ? Is there something going on politically ? And if so , why ?

Yes, they do not want them due to baseball

[Conductor]

So.. the Johnson Co schools don't want the competition in baseball ? And all the shifting and and moving is simply because of that ? I didn't think any decisions were made in the mountains based on baseball ?

[kids03]

Does anyone up there really know what's going on with this bizzare alignment ? I'm just curious given I'm not from the area .. Why is Lawrence Co " shipped out" across the Johnson co district ? Is there something going on politically ? And if so , why ?

The previous alignment had them driving 100 miles one way to Phelps in the 60th just so they could avoid the 57th District

[Conductor]

All because LC was so strong in baseball ? Is that the reason? I see the ridiculous alignments , both old and new. I was just curious if anyone knew the true reason it was so twisted or if folks were just speculating

[jammin' jamey]

Does anyone up there really know what's going on with this bizzare alignment ? I'm just curious given I'm not from the area .. Why is Lawrence Co " shipped out" across the Johnson co district ? Is there something going on politically ? And if so , why ?

Maybe a deal was made for some schools to 'go along' with the super regional proposal in exchange for the 58th district to accept Lawrence County? In the long run, if the super regional pans out, they'll be no need for districts thus making it a mute point. The larger point is there was a push to get the super regional implemented and I don't think anyone was going to stop it. Matter of fact, there were plenty of dissenting voices against this move, yet there's always resistance to change.

I hope the super regional is seeded properly, yet scheduling will be a nightmare. In a perfect world, all teams would play each other once with resulting regional records determining seeds. No polls, votes, rankings, opinions. Results only. That's what this boils down to, win games against your competition in your region. Move along.

That being said, I feel bad for Piarist being moved again, yet as the Commissioner stated in the release, some schools don't field a team for all varsity sports, thus a major factor in why a proposal like this is being raised.

Read his full quote and more here:http://www.ekbtv.com/news/tackett-approv...l-proposal

One more thought...this plan isn't for everyone. I think we can agree that ALL districts should seed instead of draw, yet if that can't happen, how would you ever be bold enough to try tinkering with the regional tournament? In talking to friends today, they reminded me that winning district tournament is still important. It still matters because there are still districts with natural, traditional rivalries. Yet in the 15th, most of those rivalries are now gone. I'm a tradition guy, but hanging on to tradition with no real reason besides resisting change is only limited yourself.

Another factor is that two of the last three Sweet 16 winners have been district runner's up. Eliminating districts takes away the advantage of having one poor night in the postseason.

[Big Don]

All because LC was so strong in baseball ? Is that the reason? I see the ridiculous alignments , both old and new. I was just curious if anyone knew the true reason it was so twisted or if folks were just speculating

LC didn't complain when they joined the 60th back then. Seems now it's a $ issue and the talent level is gone and not worth the trip!

[K40]

Sigh.

[LCHSbulldogsalum]

LC didn't complain when they joined the 60th back then. Seems now it's a $ issue and the talent level is gone and not worth the trip!

Wrong, again. From what I've been told, by people outside Lawrence, is that LC was asked to move to the 60th after another 57th team refused it FIRST. Then LC was told they were leaving the 60th because two schools didn't like not having an easier road to the regional tourney in basketball and baseball. That's the truth.....

But it's "not fair" for the kids to travel. :please: But it would be fair to make the LC kids travel by shipping them to the 16th where they would rack up more miles than in the 15th. Geez. :lame:

[Paparazzi]

The super regional is the dumbest idea ever. This would end up just like football with far too many teams in the playoffs. We have a great March setting and greedy adults can't help but want to screw it up.

[Paparazzi]

I don't understand how anyone could consider moving Lether and Jenkins to the 15th. Who would Knott and cordia play then. Are you forgetting that.

[Paparazzi]

I forgot about JBS in the 55th but still you could just take one team out of there and that would be Jenkins since they are closest to Pikeville.

[Creeker]

Maybe a deal was made for some schools to 'go along' with the super regional proposal in exchange for the 58th district to accept Lawrence County? In the long run, if the super regional pans out, they'll be no need for districts thus making it a mute point. The larger point is there was a push to get the super regional implemented and I don't think anyone was going to stop it. Matter of fact, there were plenty of dissenting voices against this move, yet there's always resistance to change.

This was my understanding right here... School in the 57th refused to go to the 58th, school in the 60th was willing to make a deal to push LC to the 58th and bring Piarist in to the 60th. My thought is, why wouldn't the 58th push to have piarist in with them instead?

[Hornet dad]

Have any of you looked at the travel for LC if they were to return to the 16th? The total miles would be MORE than if they were in the 15th region. I don't see where so many people think LC to the 16th is the "best".....it's not for travel purposes. But, nobody cares about LC......:Thumbs:

Here's the numbers:

Travel (in miles) to the 16 teams in the 16th Region = 950 Miles (avg. 59 miles per team)

Travel (in miles) to the 15 teams in the 15th Region = 863 Miles (avg. 57.5 miles per team)

Amazing how some don't know this........or don't care to find it out. nicker:

Wow, 1.5 miles different per game. That's a lot more driving. Get real.

[UpYours]

and here it is.......
http://www.wymt.com/content/sports/New-1...ml?refresh
District 57 – Johnson Central, Magoffin County, Paintsville, Sheldon Clark
District 58 – Betsy Layne, Floyd Central, Lawrence County, Prestonsburg
District 59 – East Ridge, Jenkins, Pikeville, Shelby Valley
District 60 – Belfry, Phelps, Pike County Central, Piarist

This really sucks for Lawrence Co. The Floyd County teams are terrible in baseball, softball and after JR Tackette graduates next season basketball. The district games for Lawrence will be of no value.

Oh and football also because Floyd Central will be 3A and in Lawrence district.

[theprez]

cry cry cry just lace them up and play to be the best you got to beat the best:HitWall:

[Broken Play18]

This really sucks for Lawrence Co. The Floyd County teams are terrible in baseball, softball and after JR Tackette graduates next season basketball. The district games for Lawrence will be of no value.

Oh and football also because Floyd Central will be 3A and in Lawrence district.

Plenty of talent in the 58th in every sport. Who is LC gong to have after Dalton is gone?

[UpYours]

Plenty of talent in the 58th in every sport. Who is LC gong to have after Dalton is gone?

Dude you are on crack if you think baseball or softball in the 58th will compete with LC. I'd bet 50% of the time LC will mercy a 58th team in baseball and 100% of the time in softball. And things will have to get really bad in basketball for LC not to compete with the 58th.

[Baseball Man]

Everybody gets a trophy theory!!

Everyone gets to play in the regional tournament. However, not everyone has to earn it!
I at first thought it a good ideal, but in reality it cheapens the games much like the first couple of rounds in football. The revenue from the 1st round won't make any difference because they will be poor competition. Should just leave it alone and be done with it. It has worked for fine for 100 years.

In 2 years it will be:

57th-Johnson Central Paintsville Sheldon Clark Magoffin Co & Lawrence Co
58th-Prestonsburg Betsy Layne Floyd Central Piarist (David School will join next year)
59th-East Ridge Shelby Valley Jenkins Letcher Central
60th-Belfry Phelps Pike Central & Pikeville

[Broken Play18]

Dude you are on crack if you think baseball or softball in the 58th will compete with LC. I'd bet 50% of the time LC will mercy a 58th team in baseball and 100% of the time in softball. And things will have to get really bad in basketball for LC not to compete with the 58th.

You never answered my question.... dude. Nice to see your enthusiasm though, dude.