12-23-2014, 05:53 AM
well from the record at Perry it doesn't look like any of the asst coaches cant be replaced and if asst coaches where going around the head coaches back talking smack they should be fired on the spot!!!!!
12-23-2014, 04:09 PM
There should be a place where people who know absolutely nothing but what they hear from someone else, who also knows nothing, can go and make statements about coaches and kids that are degrading to adults and hurtful to kids. Statements about coaches and what they did or didn't do by people who have no clue do no good. Kids are hurt when someone says they are only playing because their dad coaches or whatever. Kids read this stuff. I realize that you guys making these comments are ex NFL head coaches and have an excellent feel for press man coverage vs cover two and a stretch zone run game and I'm sure you are well paid to set us all straight but maybe you should tone down the rhetoric a little.
12-23-2014, 04:28 PM
redstone1127 Wrote:There should be a place where people who know absolutely nothing but what they hear from someone else, who also knows nothing, can go and make statements about coaches and kids that are degrading to adults and hurtful to kids. Statements about coaches and what they did or didn't do by people who have no clue do no good. Kids are hurt when someone says they are only playing because their dad coaches or whatever. Kids read this stuff. I realize that you guys making these comments are ex NFL head coaches and have an excellent feel for press man coverage vs cover two and a stretch zone run game and I'm sure you are well paid to set us all straight but maybe you should tone down the rhetoric a little.
:thatsfunn:Clap::Thumbs:
12-23-2014, 04:30 PM
i like that and you are right if Tim Couch's dad had been coaching him there would have been parents saying the only reason my boy is not playing QB is because his daddy is the coach.
12-23-2014, 05:23 PM
I looked back thru these posts....didn't see anyone talking about who was getting to play or why....all I seen was a bunch of comments made from one family trying to sling mud at a Coach just to try and make themselves look more appealing for a job hire. They really aren't fooling anybody. Typical of their history. Just a prime example of one of those people that think that they are so much smarter than everyone else that no one could ever figure out what they are doing....you know the type...all buddy buddy to your face and then stick it to you as soon as you're out of sight. Kids definitely do not need people like that trying to give them guidance.
12-23-2014, 05:30 PM
I have 2 good friends that are head football coaches and they tell me it don't matter what you do 90 percent of parents are going to cut your throat at some point. I would dare say more and more guys will not get into coaching because of how it is now. back in the day a coach would rip a kid and then the parents would rip him. heck now the parents rip the coach
12-23-2014, 05:38 PM
I agree. I've coached with many of the coaches being commented on here. They are all competent coaches, some of them are very good. What people say about them is most often dead wrong. When a program is in trouble in my experience the assistant coaches are not the problem but are the first ones jumped on. There have been some bad things said on here about some very good coaches.
12-23-2014, 09:28 PM
I agree 100% with the above post ^....... The parents should stay out of the programs........ The coaches are hired by a group of pple. Winning program fans do a LOT better job at staying out of the coaches business with the team, and respect them as "the coach"... Belfry, Breathitt, for example dont have too many parents that go toe to toe with the coaches. . The person who dedicates themselves to the programs, kids, sacifices their time with their own family to teach a kid how to win a game and gives them a few lessons in life about repect, pride, dedication, hard work. Talk is cheap, if you want your child to play, you want them to do their best and win. If not, go to a school where the parents or the boosters run the game and not the coach... My guess if you do that is........ They have never won a championship or not even a possibility, Your kids have a greater chance that they wont do whats expected after school in the real world, they will talk and sas you back, ect..... Bottom line is some parents need to get a grip, let the one person in their life that WILL motivate them do it.... Also, being talked down to is not so bad, but you dont have to like it... you have a choice, fix the problem or quit.... Chapman is one hell of a coach, but Chapman puts up with absolutely 0 bullcrap, he wants to win, he wants to make kids better than they are. Glad I got the opportunity to play and learn for him in the early-mid 90s. 6 years.........!
12-23-2014, 09:39 PM
bcpc Wrote:I agree 100% with the above post ^....... The parents should stay out of the programs........ The coaches are hired by a group of pple. Winning program fans do a LOT better job at staying out of the coaches business with the team, and respect them as "the coach"... Belfry, Breathitt, for example dont have too many parents that go toe to toe with the coaches. . The person who dedicates themselves to the programs, kids, sacifices their time with their own family to teach a kid how to win a game and gives them a few lessons in life about repect, pride, dedication, hard work. Talk is cheap, if you want your child to play, you want them to do their best and win. If not, go to a school where the parents or the boosters run the game and not the coach... My guess if you do that is........ They have never won a championship or not even a possibility, Your kids have a greater chance that they wont do whats expected after school in the real world, they will talk and sas you back, ect..... Bottom line is some parents need to get a grip, let the one person in their life that WILL motivate them do it.... Also, being talked down to is not so bad, but you dont have to like it... you have a choice, fix the problem or quit.... Chapman is one hell of a coach, but Chapman puts up with absolutely 0 bullcrap, he wants to win, he wants to make kids better than they are. Glad I got the opportunity to play and learn for him in the early-mid 90s. 6 years.........!
Why did you play for a high school football coach for 6 years?:popcorn:
12-24-2014, 12:46 AM
Because chapman coached the middle school for two years. That's what built breathitt football. You can't handle your high school baby taking chapmans mouth, imagine a middle schooler. Parents at Breathitt and along with me said push him no matter what you say. We wanted our kids to win titles not worry about their stats like most parents do these days. That's why Breathitts program skyrocketed in early to mid 90s. But he can't coach I guess!
12-24-2014, 01:36 AM
I absolutely agree redstone1127. There are kids on this site and it chaps my a** when stupid comments about lack of talent is put on here. That really boost their moral by putting them down. Secondly, I don't know who you are talking about clueless but I can assure you that I have no family that is up for hire or is currently coaching. Maybe everyone on this site needs to quit ASSuming things. Its all about the he said she said and trust me its a crock. Buddy buddy to your face. Yep that's hilarious. There was one person and one person only that stirred the stinky pot at KCC and I can assure you it was not who you think. Fact Jack. If you want FACTS, here they are: #1 I do not know Chapman. #2 KCC has some of the hardest working, dedicated football players around. #3 I am not related to any coach that applied for the position at KCC. #4 I am NOT a coach. #5 You cannot win a football game with a coach who doesn't believe in the team. #6 You play like you practice.
12-24-2014, 03:31 AM
Well said hadenough! When you as a coach don't believe in your players, you are not going to win. You have to give respect in order to get it too. I hope and pray that KCC chooses the right coach because the program is in need of a good respectable coach to turn the program around. They need to hire a coach that can stat more than a couple of years to build a program. I hope and pray for the kids sake they hire someone to do just that.
12-24-2014, 05:14 AM
hadenough Wrote:I absolutely agree redstone1127. There are kids on this site and it chaps my a** when stupid comments about lack of talent is put on here. That really boost their moral by putting them down. Secondly, I don't know who you are talking about clueless but I can assure you that I have no family that is up for hire or is currently coaching. Maybe everyone on this site needs to quit ASSuming things. Its all about the he said she said and trust me its a crock. Buddy buddy to your face. Yep that's hilarious. There was one person and one person only that stirred the stinky pot at KCC and I can assure you it was not who you think. Fact Jack. If you want FACTS, here they are: #1 I do not know Chapman. #2 KCC has some of the hardest working, dedicated football players around. #3 I am not related to any coach that applied for the position at KCC. #4 I am NOT a coach. #5 You cannot win a football game with a coach who doesn't believe in the team. #6 You play like you practice.
You have our curiosity, who stirred the pot? Incoming coaches may need to know.
12-24-2014, 05:35 AM
I wasn't talking about a coach at KCC or anyone else at KCC....I was talking about Coach Amos and what he had to deal with at PCC. I hadn't heard of any conflicts at Knott County. geez!
12-24-2014, 06:09 AM
hadenough Wrote:I absolutely agree redstone1127. There are kids on this site and it chaps my a** when stupid comments about lack of talent is put on here. That really boost their moral by putting them down. Secondly, I don't know who you are talking about clueless but I can assure you that I have no family that is up for hire or is currently coaching. Maybe everyone on this site needs to quit ASSuming things. Its all about the he said she said and trust me its a crock. Buddy buddy to your face. Yep that's hilarious. There was one person and one person only that stirred the stinky pot at KCC and I can assure you it was not who you think. Fact Jack. If you want FACTS, here they are: #1 I do not know Chapman. #2 KCC has some of the hardest working, dedicated football players around. #3 I am not related to any coach that applied for the position at KCC. #4 I am NOT a coach. #5 You cannot win a football game with a coach who doesn't believe in the team. #6 You play like you practice.
clueless Wrote:I wasn't talking about a coach at KCC or anyone else at KCC....I was talking about Coach Amos and what he had to deal with at PCC. I hadn't heard of any conflicts at Knott County. geez!
Excuse me; I thought this tread was about Knott Central topics not about Perry Central issues. Forgive me for my assumptions. My bad. So who did they hire? When will they announce? inglepar
12-24-2014, 07:35 AM
Did KCC hire Chapman or not? Heard they did.
12-24-2014, 06:01 PM
Redstone, dont think anyone could be talking about your son because he is a stud. Could start for anyone in KY. Heck of an athlete and a great kid.
12-25-2014, 04:32 AM
Merry Christmas to All
12-25-2014, 04:32 AM
Happy new year
12-25-2014, 07:01 AM
Nothing against Knott, but there is NO WAY JPC is going to even think about putting in for that job. Norman would be a good fit. He's going to run a ball control offense and try to control tempo. That's exactly what you should do at Knott. Running a spread type O would be doom. Control the tempo, control the clock, keep their offense off the field.
That's your only chance.
That's your only chance.
12-25-2014, 05:02 PM
F.N.L. Wrote:Nothing against Knott, but there is NO WAY JPC is going to even think about putting in for that job. Norman would be a good fit. He's going to run a ball control offense and try to control tempo. That's exactly what you should do at Knott. Running a spread type O would be doom. Control the tempo, control the clock, keep their offense off the field.
That's your only chance.
That is hilarious. From what Iâve read about Knott threads in the past, former coach Holland tried to implement a running style offense for the very same reasons and they crucified him for doing it. The football gurus at Knott thought he needed to throw the ball. They said he only ran 5 or 6 different plays; hilarious. For those of you that donât know football, there are only 5/6 different basic running plays in all of football; they are just ran from different formations. Happy New Year!!!:theman:
12-25-2014, 06:06 PM
Merry Christmas to all.
12-25-2014, 06:07 PM
Happy new Year.
12-25-2014, 06:51 PM
The Eagle has landed Wrote:you all had a coach who would not cuss or call kids names and he worked his butt off!! At least that is what I have heard about the guy over the years. So make up your mind what do you want? Hey lets not forget you are Knott Co. its not like you are Bowling Green when is the last time you all had a kid go play college ball on scholarship? I am not talking Union that's not scholarship I am talking EKU, UK etc.... My point is you have nothing there to entice a coach to come the there (athletes,bball hoopsters playing football, pay, facilities, asst coaches, tradition, support, should I go on) and now you want someone like Jesus to come coach football there. And let me remind you Jesus was the only man on earth to be perfect!!!!!!! So you all at Knott Co. take a look at yourself long and hard because from what I here you let a coach go that was as hard a worker as you will find and didn't call the kids names.
Please enlighten us on how much you know about the facilities, pay, support......let's see just how much you know....
12-26-2014, 03:37 AM
over the last 15 years what is knott co. record? how many head coaches have you had? how many of the hoopsters play football? should I go on and on and on?
12-26-2014, 03:39 AM
if you get divorced once maybe twice it might be her fault but if it happens 4,5,6 times it is probable your fault!!!!!
12-26-2014, 03:45 AM
how many asst coaches you have in the building? how many payed asst coaches? how much is the pay for asst? you are getting ready to make my point for me!!!
12-26-2014, 04:08 AM
The man above kind of has a point. Since 1998 there have been numerous coaches, ALL with losing records.
1998: Harold Wallace, 1-9
1999: Harold Wallace, 1-9
2000: Wes Halbert, 1-9
2001: JJ Everage, 1-9
2002: JJ Everage, 2-8
2003: Don Smith, 2-8
2004: Don Smith, 2-8
2005: Joe Beder, 3-7
2006: Joe Beder, 3-7
2007: Joe Beder, 2-9
2008: Joe Beder, 3-8
2009: Joe Beder, 1-10
2010: Tom Searcy, 0-11
2011: Tom Searcy, 0-10
2012: Tom Searcy, 2-9
2013: Steven Hollon, 4-6
2014: Steven Hollon, 1-9
2015: ?
I'm not sure what it is the people of Knott County really want...
1998: Harold Wallace, 1-9
1999: Harold Wallace, 1-9
2000: Wes Halbert, 1-9
2001: JJ Everage, 1-9
2002: JJ Everage, 2-8
2003: Don Smith, 2-8
2004: Don Smith, 2-8
2005: Joe Beder, 3-7
2006: Joe Beder, 3-7
2007: Joe Beder, 2-9
2008: Joe Beder, 3-8
2009: Joe Beder, 1-10
2010: Tom Searcy, 0-11
2011: Tom Searcy, 0-10
2012: Tom Searcy, 2-9
2013: Steven Hollon, 4-6
2014: Steven Hollon, 1-9
2015: ?
I'm not sure what it is the people of Knott County really want...
12-26-2014, 05:57 AM
Looks like they need to play an independent schedule the next few years and drop district play.
12-26-2014, 07:25 AM
LClion4life Wrote:Why did you play for a high school football coach for 6 years?:popcorn:
Because he was my middle school coach for 2 years........ SMS... Yea. We won there too
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