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Belfry 34 Lawrence County 19
bucslover68 Wrote:No. Case closed.
They were definitely driving the struggle bus on offense all night. Very unusual to see a Belfry backfield run into each other. Not typical play of any #1 team.
dawgbyte02 Wrote:They were definitely driving the struggle bus on offense all night. Very unusual to see a Belfry backfield run into each other. Not typical play of any #1 team.

And you do realize the reason why? Let's be fair and not pretend that was the true Belfry "A" team out there.
bucslover68 Wrote:And you do realize the reason why? Let's be fair and not pretend that was the true Belfry "A" team out there.
The question is about retaining the #1 ranking. Based on Belfry's play, not LC defense causing disruptions, one would think Belfry may lose some points from the pollsters. OF course rankings do not mean anything. LC is not even ranked and for 3-1/2 quarters they were either ahead, tied or down 1 point. But they will not get even single mention in any ranking. Belfry barely got a win that they were supposed to win by 6 TD's. They did not play anywhere close to a # 1 team for THAT game.
Depending on how the # 2 team did might determine if Belfry retains the #1 spot.
dawgbyte02 Wrote:The question is about retaining the #1 ranking. Based on Belfry's play, not LC defense causing disruptions, one would think Belfry may lose some points from the pollsters. OF course rankings do not mean anything. LC is not even ranked and for 3-1/2 quarters they were either ahead, tied or down 1 point. But they will not get even single mention in any ranking. Belfry barely got a win that they were supposed to win by 6 TD's. They did not play anywhere close to a # 1 team for THAT game.
Depending on how the # 2 team did might determine if Belfry retains the #1 spot.
According to this South Warren has already taken over the #1 spot. This was released earlier last week.

http://www.wsaz.com/sports/headlines/Ken...=phone&c=y
Belfry isn't even ranked number one. I am not sure I undestand the rant against Belfry.
Lc ran about 50 offensive plays and 12 1st downs, each time belfry turned the ball over lc scored the next play. Belfry fumble on their own 49, 49 yard pass to dalton, belfry fumble on their on 34, next play 34 yard run up the middle by dalton, belfry fumble on their own 15, kiser up the middle for 15 yards and a td. Take those 3 plays out lc ran around 47 plays with 12 first downs. If you just look at stats you would think lc could not move the ball on belfry which is simply not true. Belfry cost themself a few time as did lc with flags. Belfry had good players out for this game as did lc. The major difference in the game was the lines of belfry in the 4th quarter their size just wore us down. Belfrys qb made big plays when he had to keep drives alive. Lc has their program headed in the right direction, in 3a belfry is the measuring stick but lc is closing the gap.
oneijoe Wrote:Here's a question for you, EKU...

Should Belfry be penalized in the polls for winning by "only" 2 scores against a team the 3A #1 should have beaten by much more ??


Confusedhh:

Feel free to drop them wherever so you choose.

Winning by two TDs on the road with essentially a completely different backfield (save hatfield) than what you opened the season with and overcoming 3 lost fumbles on your side of the field is not a bad win though?

I don't see anyone claiming that the underdog in this case was just as good as the highly favorited team though do you?
Confusedhh:
I've never seen so many excuses to why a team didn't win by more. If these two teams play again I hope and pray all the 50 injured belfry players are healthy. I've lost my respect for the fans who simply just couldn't say it was a good game last night. This is why over half of this site hates the butt hurt pirates.
In the pound Wrote:I've never seen so many excuses to why a team didn't win by more. If these two teams play again I hope and pray all the 50 injured belfry players are healthy. I've lost my respect for the fans who simply just couldn't say it was a good game last night. This is why over half of this site hates the butt hurt pirates.
Sounds to me like someone from LC is butt hurt because their team couldn't beat the Pirates while they were down.
These Louisans will go through hell and high water for their moral victory.
This thread started out great with kindness and respect showed from both sides to complete an utter confusion and chaos.:Shaking:
^^
That's what we're here for!!
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As far as the ink pen incident, yes, one of the players got stuck with an ink pen and even picked it up off the ground and handed it the ref and told him he got stuck with a pen. But, he could have actually landed on pen that was already on field and never accused anyone of actually sticking him. This is straight from horses mouth so to speak. It was one pen and that was it. No mass sticking or things of that matter. Again, he could have landed on it while it was laying on the field. I'm sure the field is used for other things besides football and school supplies could very well been dropped on the field. My understanding is it was when the refs went to the Belfry sideline and had the little talk for awhile. Nothing come of it and I'm sure the refs where watching for any wrongdoing and none was seen.
Belfry0304 Wrote:These Louisans will go through hell and high water for their moral victory.
Well when you are a 7 TD underdog against an injury depleted opponent before the game and only lose by 2 TD's is the definition of a moral victory.
You keep adding TD to the underdog list. First it was 3, then 5, then 6....now it's 7!:Shaking::eyeroll:
Crossbones Wrote:As far as the ink pen incident, yes, one of the players got stuck with an ink pen and even picked it up off the ground and handed it the ref and told him he got stuck with a pen. But, he could have actually landed on pen that was already on field and never accused anyone of actually sticking him. This is straight from horses mouth so to speak. It was one pen and that was it. No mass sticking or things of that matter. Again, he could have landed on it while it was laying on the field. I'm sure the field is used for other things besides football and school supplies could very well been dropped on the field.
This is much different than being attacked with an ink pen and people at the "concession stand" talking about it. A very serious accusation was made against LC players and it is being taken very seriously.
Let's tell LC exactly what they want to hear.
1. It was a good game
2. Your talent has improved.
3. You have closed the gap with Belfry.
4. You are more athletic than you were.

Happy now???

1. You are nowhere good enough to beat Belfry at home. Mainly due to a severe lack of fundamentals, i.e. blocking and tackling.
2. Your overall team speed is lacking. Dalton, Lambert, and Kiser are pretty quick. Other than that you are slow.
3. You better get Belfry now if you can. Of all the players that played for BHS last night, all but 6 will be back next year and many of them for two or three years.
4. On a night when a lot bad happened to Belfry, reasons, not excuses, you still couldn't finish the deal. Btw, good defensive penetration up the middle by LC caused Belfry some trouble .
Hopefully both teams will get a rematch at the CAM. However, remember you get what you ask for sometimes and the results ain't always great.
Lemme say that LC has a good team. Small things and fundamentals keep them from being a premier 3A team at this point. IMO, they need to worry about their lack of blocking and their inability to put together a drive. BTW, as rusty as Belfry was with new personnel in the lineup, they still put up 34 points. A healthy BHS will hang 50 on the Dawgs if they don't get better.
I like Cecil. I like a Christian coach. I told him after the game we would see him in about a month.
A little critiquing of BHS.
The timing issues can be explained. The line penalties leave you scratching your head but can be ironed out.
Belfry potentially has a championship level D, IMO, but they can still get better.
The O cannot be totally judged right now, but they need to continue to improve and hopefully healthy bodies will be back. They have some good skill players and other pieces in place and a really good O line.
In the end, there is still a lot of football to be played, but if BHS can win Friday, they will be tough to beat at CAM IMO.
dawgbyte02 Wrote:This is much different than being attacked with an ink pen and people at the "concession stand" talking about it. A very serious accusation was made against LC players and it is being taken very seriously.

Maybe people at the concession stand was talking about it. I don't know, I didn't go to the "concession stand". If it was mentioned at the "concession stand" and stood true as it did, because a pen was found and a player was stuck, then it should be taken very seriously. Wouldn't you think.
Crossbones is not the person who said they heard it at the concession stand....
So 3/4 starting DB's doesn't make a difference in the outcome of a game? So being down to RB's number 7 and 8 on the depth chart doesn't make a difference? All that plus 100 yards in penalties and we still won by 15, bet you if we play again in the playoffs it will NOT be this close! Done with this fanbase once again aside from a few posters who seem knowledgable and reasonable the rest of you unfortunately have proven to be as idiotic as you always have been.
Granny Bear Wrote:Crossbones is not the person who said they heard it at the concession stand....

Correct! Dawgbyte02 keeps trying to turn it against the Belfry poster who said he heard it at the concession stand. Saying he/she was making very serious accusations with nothing to back it up basically. But, when a pen was found and given to the official, it is not an accusation, it is fact. I was simply trying to confirm what transpired. By having a pen found and a poster saying he/she heard it talked about at the concession stand, would lead you to believe it not being just an accusation but some very much truth to it. I'm not saying a player done it and even made a reason why it would or could have been there.
Crossbones Wrote:Correct! Dawgbyte02 keeps trying to turn it against the Belfry poster who said he heard it at the concession stand. Saying he/she was making very serious accusations with nothing to back it up basically. But, when a pen was found and given to the official, it is not an accusation, it is fact. I was simply trying to confirm what transpired. By having a pen found and a poster saying he/she heard it talked about at the concession stand, would lead you to believe it not being just an accusation but some very much truth to it. I'm not saying a player done it and even made a reason why it would or could have been there.
I posted that it was heard at the concession. It was my wife that said she heard it. I don't think she would lie about it either. Why would she?? Nothing toward you crossbones. I was just making my point that it wasn't you that posted it. The only reason I even posted she heard it was because it was posted by someone that the boys were being stuck with the pens.
I do apologize for saying butt hurt. Not a good choice of words. This thread got a little bad. Congrats to belfry and you guys! I agree belfry defense is nasty good at stopping the run. Pass defense needs a little work. I expect you to be in bowling green bringing home another title.
I don't vouch for too many folks, but I would believe mrs.skully over my own husband!!!
I hope the whole sticking with pens isnt true.
Crossbones Wrote:You keep adding TD to the underdog list. First it was 3, then 5, then 6....now it's 7!:Shaking::eyeroll:
Belfry should have put this game away by half time with any line up they had. LC or any team for that matter is not in the same class as Belfry. They are by far and away a dynasty and have been for many years. It is something that most likely will never be equaled by any team east of Lexington. They already hold every record for eastern ky teams in their class. When you play Belfry you are playing a PROFESSIONAL team. LC players for at least a few minutes of their career were in the game. If this is not a moral victory I do not know what is. I do not understand why people would try to deny kids a few moments of thinking they were overachieving. Is that not what sports are about? Endeavor to persevere. Hard work yields positive results. It's not whether you win or lose, but how YOU play. And then for Belfry fans to accuse LC players of assaulting them with ink pens is not only out of character for Belfry but may result in serious consequences. Regardless of what actually happened an accusation was made and that starts a process in todays society. If it is determined that it was a false accusation that will start another process.
skully03 Wrote:I hope the whole sticking with pens isnt true.

But it has to be true. It was heard by a Belfry fan at the concession. Right? :please:


I mean I would post RUMORS like that about HIGH SCHOOL kids on message boards every day, and then back it up with "well this person heard it from this person in line at the concession stand" as my reasoning. Sounds like a reasonable thing to do. Serves what purpose on here other than to taint the effort of the LC players and coaches and to add more excuses "or reasons" why the game was close when we weren't given a chance.


I'm sure if an LC fan posts in a few weeks that while waiting in line at the Belfry concession....well, you can figure out the rest....that nobody will delete the posts or say anything negative towards LC fans for posting that....right? Confusedhh:
bucslover68 Wrote:Let's tell LC exactly what they want to hear.
1. It was a good game
2. Your talent has improved.
3. You have closed the gap with Belfry.
4. You are more athletic than you were.

Happy now???
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1. You are nowhere good enough to beat Belfry at home. Mainly due to a severe lack of fundamentals, i.e. blocking and tackling.
2. Your overall team speed is lacking. Dalton, Lambert, and Kiser are pretty quick. Other than that you are slow.
3. You better get Belfry now if you can. Of all the players that played for BHS last night, all but 6 will be back next year and many of them for two or three years.
4. On a night when a lot bad happened to Belfry, reasons, not excuses, you still couldn't finish the deal. Btw, good defensive penetration up the middle by LC caused Belfry some trouble .
Hopefully both teams will get a rematch at the CAM. However, remember you get what you ask for sometimes and the results ain't always great.
Lemme say that LC has a good team. Small things and fundamentals keep them from being a premier 3A team at this point. IMO, they need to worry about their lack of blocking and their inability to put together a drive. BTW, as rusty as Belfry was with new personnel in the lineup, they still put up 34 points. A healthy BHS will hang 50 on the Dawgs if they don't get better.
I like Cecil. I like a Christian coach. I told him after the game we would see him in about a month.[/COLOR]
A little critiquing of BHS.
The timing issues can be explained. The line penalties leave you scratching your head but can be ironed out.
Belfry potentially has a championship level D, IMO, but they can still get better.
The O cannot be totally judged right now, but they need to continue to improve and hopefully healthy bodies will be back. They have some good skill players and other pieces in place and a really good O line.
In the end, there is still a lot of football to be played, but if BHS can win Friday, they will be tough to beat at CAM IMO.

The 4 biggest examples of hatred and bashing of kids I have ever seen. Get ready for the wrath from the faithful.:biggrin:
dawgeers Wrote:But it has to be true. It was heard by a Belfry fan at the concession. Right? :please:


I mean I would post RUMORS like that about HIGH SCHOOL kids on message boards every day, and then back it up with "well this person heard it from this person in line at the concession stand" as my reasoning. Sounds like a reasonable thing to do. Serves what purpose on here other than to taint the effort of the LC players and coaches and to add more excuses "or reasons" why the game was close when we weren't given a chance.


I'm sure if an LC fan posts in a few weeks that while waiting in line at the Belfry concession....well, you can figure out the rest....that nobody will delete the posts or say anything negative towards LC fans for posting that....right? Confusedhh:
Alright, go back and look. I didn't say that it happened. All I said was my wife. Mrs. Skully overheard fans saying the same thing. LC fans as a matter of fact. Im guessing you will shortly hear from her. I did not say it was true. Don't put words in my mouth.
irishcard16 Wrote:So 3/4 starting DB's doesn't make a difference in the outcome of a game? So being down to RB's number 7 and 8 on the depth chart doesn't make a difference? All that plus 100 yards in penalties and we still won by 15, bet you if we play again in the playoffs it will NOT be this close! Done with this fanbase once again aside from a few posters who seem knowledgable and reasonable the rest of you unfortunately have proven to be as idiotic as you always have been.

Hmmmmm.........You hater you.Confusedhh:
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