[voice of reason]

TJ has skeletons in his closet as well, I don't give 2 shitz where you went to HS, when you are a grown man, you don't sell the kids on "family" etc and all this rah rah bs and turn your back. He isn't all that folks, regardless what McPeek's problems were, TJ isn't a real honest person either. Bottom line, it took him till this past season to win a watered down district. Year before last, losing after having blown the team out earlier speaks volumes on prep.

Someone some day will get the facts out on what really went down at Greenup folks.

[Panther Thunder]

Nobody knows anything about inside the programs unless you are actually part of the program so quit acting like you know what goes on.

Ahhhhh, but therein lies the humor of the situation.

[FootballGuy]

Ahhhhh, but therein lies the humor of the situation.

I think I would know what I'm talking about.. Considering I'm part of the program. Rumors are rumors and you can continue with them I suppose

[FootballGuy]

And please tell me when Shannon Johnson has housed kids... Please

[Allsports#1]

Russell football coach search continues


Staff report
The Independent


RUSSELL — According to Russell athletic director Sam Sparks, the search for the school’s next football coach should be over by the end of the month.

“Our goal is to have a coach in place by March 1 and we think we can make that happen,” Sparks wrote in an email.

Sparks also said that Russell has received several applicants and has conducted some interviews.

The job will be posted until Feb. 20.

Russell hasn’t hired a head football coach since 1976, when Ivan McGlone began his 38-year career.

McGlone was relieved of his duties in January.

[Lynch47]

It's so amazing when you get beat 3 out of 4 years and and can't make it to the carpet, why you feel the way you do Ramdad !!
Let's be completely honest here just about everyone in this area has players from other schools, this is not about that with you Ramdad it's about people didn't like the color of the kids skin!!!! When racial epitaphs are used on Internet and grown men wear Afro wigs to games and administration including the classless Principal and Head Coach let degrading signs be hung and turn their heads that's when people are in it for the wrong reasons.
How about a Dr. From Raceland taking pictures of Fairviews former Principal and posting them on internet Why? Because he is jealous that the kids he housed couldn't beat him!! How about the guy in the Raceland press box who acted like he had a gun and was following Garry McPeek on the field! You need to look in your own back yard!!
You see we could go on and on but the kids have settled it on the field! I seen Fairviews coaches hugging Racelands kids after this years game! That is class and Nate ran a class program!! One kids credits being enrolled wrong doesn't make Fairview or Nate or Garry bad people! The reason why their gone is their are people at Fairview like you that don't want those kids there!! This is what makes high school sports terrible when parents act like idiots!! I it's a complete shame because we need to help every kid we can make it in life but for some selfish reasons it comes to this bullCrap!!

I will try to go through this one by one. I'm not from that area, just an outsider looking in because a lot of the arguments are emotional ones. Technically, McPeek only beat Raceland in 2010 and 2011. Raceland has a 4-2 win loss record that is on the KHSAA's books. Moral victories don't count.

Secondly, when everyone is in an argument, if one has black, Asian, Hispanic, purple or green kids on the team someone has to throw the race card out. Heck we aren't playing rook here. Why does everything have to be racially charged? I don't see fire hydrants, German shepherds or billy club beatings happening every day. I drove down from Lex to see several of these games and have not seen one thing that you have mentioned. Don't let one or two morons represent the entire school for Raceland and vice versa. This also falls in line with the last statement that I have bolded. You say help every kid, but how many kids that didn't play football did they help out? Did they help out the black child that has no father, plays in the band and sits at the house every night because his mom works two jobs? Or did they help out the kid that has a dad locked up, mom on pills and he stays home taking care of his 5 brothers and sisters? No, they helped the ones that could help them.

Lastly, class program. Nothing says class more than a 72-0, 69-0, 63-6 victory. Now every once in a while I am sure most understand that it happens. They are kids after all playing the game. But this has been the norm in Fairview since 2008 when he took over. Also, having a schedule most years that the KYFBU middle school team could compete with doesn't help either.

TJ could be just as bad, I don't know, I live in Lexington. But no one on here is begging for TJ to get interviews or to get second chances. In time it will come for Nate but I don't think any school in the state would hire an individual to be a program's head coach the very next year after a program he headed received one of the stiffest penalties ever handed out by Julian and the KHSAA.

[voice of reason]

I could care less if football is abolished by a large concussion lawsuit against these schools...I just don't care enough. I agree with Lynch on the kids that were helped were the ones who helped win games, but doesn't things usually work that way? Also, Raceland is just as guilty, I know for a fact Raceland would deny GC kids.....but would make room for the ones who played sports at a high level.
Raceland would say classes are filled up and no room to a honor student, but "can always make room" for more who play.

[DevilWatcher]

And please tell me when Shannon Johnson has housed kids... Please

I could be 100% wrong (and I normally am) but the kid maybe in question played a few years ago. Father went to jail and Shannon was a very good friend of the father. Heard rumor of it then that Shannon took the son in or persuaded him to Raceland. If that is the case or player in question I find no fault in that. I would hope my friends would do the same for me. I may totally be incorrect though.

[Devil68]

I could care less if football is abolished by a large concussion lawsuit against these schools...I just don't care enough. I agree with Lynch on the kids that were helped were the ones who helped win games, but doesn't things usually work that way? Also, Raceland is just as guilty, I know for a fact Raceland would deny GC kids.....but would make room for the ones who played sports at a high level.
Raceland would say classes are filled up and no room to a honor student, but "can always make room" for more who play.

Just wondering why you would to say you could care less if football is abolished by a large concussion lawsuit against the schools. Is that the same as saying you could care less if a large number of kids get hurt by received concussions in order for the schools to get into a lawsuit over this sensative issue. Is it not the same as saying you could care less about kids getting hurt due to concussions? And you just don't care enough! The kids is what it is all about not the adults. I do not want to see one kid get hurt due to a concusssion or any other type of injury. The schools are spending about $300 for each helmet that these kids are wearing to minumize the risk of a concussion. At Russell we will have at least have 58 kids on th team. At $300 per child this cost is right about $17,400. just for healments for their I think that is a verygood example of the schools that want the best equipment on the market to protect what is the most important thing to this thread is the safety of the kids. Not winning and loosing, or who becomes the Head Football coach. Everyone wants the best coach, but we would not settle for enything but the Head Coach that is looking out for our the best coach, but we also want the Coach who is going to leak

[voice of reason]

Just wondering why you would to say you could care less if football is abolished by a large concussion lawsuit against the schools. Is that the same as saying you could care less if a large number of kids get hurt by received concussions in order for the schools to get into a lawsuit over this sensative issue. Is it not the same as saying you could care less about kids getting hurt due to concussions? And you just don't care enough! The kids is what it is all about not the adults. I do not want to see one kid get hurt due to a concusssion or any other type of injury. The schools are spending about $300 for each helmet that these kids are wearing to minumize the risk of a concussion. At Russell we will have at least have 58 kids on th team. At $300 per child this cost is right about $17,400. just for healments for their I think that is a verygood example of the schools that want the best equipment on the market to protect what is the most important thing to this thread is the safety of the kids. Not winning and loosing, or who becomes the Head Football coach. Everyone wants the best coach, but we would not settle for enything but the Head Coach that is looking out for our the best coach, but we also want the Coach who is going to leak

Not even close to the same thing. Of course no one wants to see a child hurt, but do you think over the years say the last 50? that kids have not have had concussions and without a doubt being left in or returned to quickly. Do you think no one....not 1 single player has sustained permanent damage? Because that is all it takes 1 to shut it all down or scare the hell out of the administrations.
My point to make was no f-ing dog in the hunt, but I get tired of the trashing of Fairview and mcPeek for recruiting players, when in fact what is the difference when Raceland was selective on what kids got into district. Before you assume again, I have not now, nor ever had any affiliation with Fairview in any way. Just don't like hypocrites. Get a clue

[DevilWatcher]

I know kids that go to Raceland that live in Russell and Greenup that don't play any sport at all? I really don't see what your getting at?

[RAMDAD50]

I have herd like 150 kids from Greenup?Dont know for sure,but I don't think that's being "selective".Last I checked there was 48 or something like that on the football team.The people in Greenup don't know how to fix the football program so the point fingers at other programs.Just like the did when the school feel below state guide lines,not interested in fixing the problem just blaming other people and schools.

[FBALL]

Man I can't wait until an announcement is made so this thread can die.

[Scotty_Bronson]

^^^agreed. One way or the other. Ive heard things, in the beginning I said i felt he would stay, then it seemed as if he were a gonner and headed to Evil Country, bc of information i recieved. Then, i get more information, that has sat me straddling the "rails"...28 hours w/o sleep brought on the RCB reference.

Imo, if he leaves, in his perfect world, he would take Grizzle with him, as well as Mike Francis. That leaves Salmons, but there are stipulations that may keep him from being able to take the program over.

Imo, however, I strongly believe Raceland will go outside of the system, IF, Salmons wouldnt/couldnt take the job. I dont thin anyone else on the staff has enough credentials, in every aspect of what a HC must do, to be the face of the program. Which is what BTR, HOOF, and MAYNARD, became.

This thread has been hi-jacked countless times. So i am trying to stay as close to topic as possible. There are alot of coaches, from successful, NKY, WKY, schools that i believe would be and some that i know are interested in both the Russell and Raceland jobs. I think that whom ever gets Maynard to sign/resign the dotted line, the other will and should go outside the system. Salmons, Evans, Smith, Fannin, Francis, and Lewis are all good football minds, motivators, and leaders of young men, but imo, none of which r ready for all that a Head football coach, at either school, are ready for. I think we should know something by the end of the week. I hope so for the most important factor. The players. Uncertainty and all of the changes that will be put in place by a new coach, must be addressed before spring football is even a thought. Thats why I think both ADs and SIs will make sure that this is taken care of by weeks end.

[Slic Ric]

I'm thinking a decision will be made by Monday , just not publicly.

[voice of reason]

^^^agreed. One way or the other. Ive heard things, in the beginning I said i felt he would stay, then it seemed as if he were a gonner and headed to Evil Country, bc of information i recieved. Then, i get more information, that has sat me straddling the "rails"...28 hours w/o sleep brought on the RCB reference.

Imo, if he leaves, in his perfect world, he would take Grizzle with him, as well as Mike Francis. That leaves Salmons, but there are stipulations that may keep him from being able to take the program over.

Imo, however, I strongly believe Raceland will go outside of the system, IF, Salmons wouldnt/couldnt take the job. I dont thin anyone else on the staff has enough credentials, in every aspect of what a HC must do, to be the face of the program. Which is what BTR, HOOF, and MAYNARD, became.

This thread has been hi-jacked countless times. So i am trying to stay as close to topic as possible. There are alot of coaches, from successful, NKY, WKY, schools that i believe would be and some that i know are interested in both the Russell and Raceland jobs. I think that whom ever gets Maynard to sign/resign the dotted line, the other will and should go outside the system. Salmons, Evans, Smith, Fannin, Francis, and Lewis are all good football minds, motivators, and leaders of young men, but imo, none of which r ready for all that a Head football coach, at either school, are ready for. I think we should know something by the end of the week. I hope so for the most important factor. The players. Uncertainty and all of the changes that will be put in place by a new coach, must be addressed before spring football is even a thought. Thats why I think both ADs and SIs will make sure that this is taken care of by weeks end.

I guess some will wonder if pushing Hoof out of the HC position turned out to be worth it if TJ leaves. I mean, 1 district championship in a watered down district? :biglmao:

[FootballGuy]

I guess some will wonder if pushing Hoof out of the HC position turned out to be worth it if TJ leaves. I mean, 1 district championship in a watered down district? :biglmao:

I think you forgot a regional championship too... But you would probably say the region is watered down too.

[Scotty_Bronson]

Hoof wasnt pushed out. He retired from the game of football to spend more time with his family. He missed alot of his older two daughters careers in basketball due to football, he didnt want to do the same with his 3rd. And that was straight from the horses mouth. No one ever tried to push Randy out. But again, shall we digress? Lets try to stay on topic. Or atleast pertaining to it.

[CoachfromtheStands]

I was told that TJ had an interview Tuesday and it went well for him. Also on another site it has him taking the job someone reported this morning. If this is true and Raceland needs a coach I would trust Lewis before anyone else on that staff but I would try and talk to Mason County coach(David Buchanan) first see if he would be interested in the job.

[DevilWatcher]

Off topic....that other site blows.....ok back on topic.... Lol

[Ramcat77]

If TJ has taken the job, then Raceland will probably get really creative and promote Sammons.

[Shoulderblock73]

What is the hang up with Sammons?

[RAMDAD50]

Kids don't like him,hard to coach with,to young,to arrogant,just not ready to run a program.If they do this it will be the beginning of the end.Raceland needs to look somewhere else than promoting from the staff.

[voice of reason]

If he interviewed he will be gone, need new blood in the area. Too many close ties and relatives etc mean too many bosses and not necessarily good decisions. Also he needs to man up,if he interviewed he should be fired either way..

[CoachfromtheStands]

Off topic....that other site blows.....ok back on topic.... Lol

I agree....:hilarious:

[CoachfromtheStands]

What is the hang up with Sammons?

IMO.....He still has a lot to learn, and I would have to agree with RAMDAD50.

[NoPicks]

Mike Salmons would do a tremendous job. Extremely intelligent guy both on and off the field, organized, never let's the small details slip by. For some reason the Raceland fan base seems to think he is arrogant and the kids don't like him. That couldn't be more inaccurate, if you know Mike, he is a top notch guy who cares deeply about his players and coaching staff. He will always put his team in a position to be successful. The current staff at Raceland has worked hard for 4 years implementing their culture, work ethic, and schemes, the program is coming off a final 4 appearance and heading in an extremely positive direction. Micky Dixon will work hard to keep this staff in place and he should. Salmons, Fannin, Lewis, and Grizzle all work well together and are excellent coaches.

[Scotty_Bronson]

Keeping Grizzle was a MAJOR victory. I the long run, if they can keep them as tenured teachers, having Grizzle and Francis on staff will make a HUGE difference. Which is what Raceland was able to do. He does a great job with the JV/FROSH. Raceland will be fine, no matter what direction they go. Mike cares a great deal about the kids and works his tail off. But he has a big decision to make. He has a administrative job. And at Raceland yoi can not coach and hold an administrative job.

[RAMDAD50]

Herd he was giving it up and taking TJ job

[Scotty_Bronson]

I had heard that as well, but from wht I have heard, it's not exactly what the administration wants to do. Not bc of coaching aspect, but bc of the job aspect. I think with the bringing in of Robby Logan, Grizzle, and a few others who have no Raceland ties, coming in, Raceland will be fine.