[eagle8966]

for a guy that left the johnson county school system ,you sure troll are threads alot .

[Eagle84]

Two different show me's. Which is it?
Showed the first one and now the second:

[SIZE=1]LONGEST INT RETURNED FOR TD - (Min. 100 Yards)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]Player (School) Opponent, Year
[/SIZE][SIZE=1]100* Aaron Wilson (Warren East)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]vs. Allen County-Scottsville, 10-14-11
Ben Streeter (Highlands) vs. Harrison County, 9-30-11
Brandon Carter (Newport) vs. Cooper, 10-29-09
Dylon Smith (Harlan Co.) vs. Wayne County, 11-14-08
James Oden (Hazard) vs. Perry Co. Central, 9-21-07
Aaron Miller (Metcalfe Co.) vs. Edmonson Co., 9-14-07
Joe Gilland (Marshall County) vs. Lone Oak, 2006
Winston Hines (Pulaski Co.) vs. Russell Co., 10-13-06
Chris Tassin (DeSales) vs. Holy Cross (Louisville), 2006
Henry Hudson (George R. Clark) vs. Tates Creek, 8-19-05
Jordan Walters (Pulaski Southwestern)
vs. Pulaski County, 2004
Ryan Barnes (Madison Central) vs. Bryan Station, 8-20-04
Chaz Anderson (Carroll Co.) vs. Trimble County, 2003
Brandon Brock (Whitesburg) vs. Harlan, 2001
Dustin Hall (Ohio County) vs. Butler County, 2000
Travis Atwell (Hancock Co.) vs. Ballard Memorial, 1999
Brandon Devers (Lex. Catholic) vs. Montgomery Co., 1999
Tyree Hampton (Webster Co.) vs. Caldwell Co., 1998
Scott Monin (Bardstown) vs. Glasgow, 1997
Tremane Perkins (Somerset) vs. Estill County, 1997
Tyran Robertson (Elizabethtown) vs. Glasgow, 1997
Keith Minor (Holy Cross (Lou.)) vs. Carroll Co., 1997
Drew Ramey (Russell) vs. Mason Co., 1996
Chris Ledford (Breckinridge Co.) vs. Edmonson Co., 1995
Paul Little (Paris) vs. NA, 1995
Matt Cross (Russell) vs. Lewis County, 1994
Kinte Bess (Danville) vs. Whitesburg, 1994
Joe Tutt (Owensboro) vs. Warren Central, 1993
Jerry Jessup (Crittenden Co.) vs. Webster Co., 9-22-89
Chris Larkey (Rockcastle County) vs. Berea, 1987
Blair Herzog (Dayton) vs. Carroll County, 1981
Greg Ponzer (Simon Kenton) vs. Conner, 1980

[/SIZE][SIZE=1]* NFHS records of[/SIZE][SIZE=1]fi [/SIZE][SIZE=1]cially recognize returns up to 100 yards[/SIZE]

http://khsaa.org/records/football/individualrecords.pdf



^Nothing negative there. It's doing exactlly as I explained in my original post.







**Please...use a REAL dictionary:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/asterisk

Give up man. You're not gonna prove me wrong. I did NOT put the kid down.

OK Now I'm done. I promise...LOL.

The best you got is were the KHSAA only considers a interception of 100 yards. Thus any interception between 100 and 109 yards are consider the same by the KHSAA. Hence under this logic you are applying the * covers all field goal over 58 yards to be the same.

You continue to show your colors each time you post. You have Crash Davis as your back ground and did not mean for the * to be negative. However, the one of the greatest * every used was the HR record in 1961 involving Roger Maris. I guess your understanding of that situation waws the * was not used in a negative way either.

I use the Webster you suggested and the definition was very similar. Review for your self: the character * used in printing or writing as a reference mark, as an indication of the omission (omething that has not been included or done : something that has been omitted
: the act of not including or doing something: the state of being not included in something) of letters or words, to denote a hypothetical or unattested linguistic form, or for various arbitrary meanings

I guess the best way to put an end to this matter is to just take everyone of your future post regarding JC with and *. I

[MtnHSFootballFan]

The best you got is were the KHSAA only considers a interception of 100 yards. Thus any interception between 100 and 109 yards are consider the same by the KHSAA. Hence under this logic you are applying the * covers all field goal over 58 yards to be the same.

You continue to show your colors each time you post. You have Crash Davis as your back ground and did not mean for the * to be negative. However, the one of the greatest * every used was the HR record in 1961 involving Roger Maris. I guess your understanding of that situation waws the * was not used in a negative way either.

I use the Webster you suggested and the definition was very similar. Review for your self: the character * used in printing or writing as a reference mark, as an indication of the omission (omething that has not been included or done : something that has been omitted
: the act of not including or doing something: the state of being not included in something) of letters or words, to denote a hypothetical or unattested linguistic form, or for various arbitrary meanings

I guess the best way to put an end to this matter is to just take everyone of your future post regarding JC with and *. I

Speaking at the 1980 All-Star Game, Maris said, "They acted as though I was doing something wrong, poisoning the record books or something. Do you know what I have to show for 61 home runs? Nothing. Exactly nothing."

Hmmm!

[MonsterMan]

I do not post much here, but cannot believe the jokers on here. For them I have a few thoughts:

1) For thoses who think the free kick should be counted I would ask each one to post how far they have kicked a ball in a game since they are such experts.

2) If the free kick is not the same and not as hard, why has the record not been broke every week. If it is this easy you are saying this should happen all the time. Anyone got a record of a free kick in KY they can post here, or better yet, a record? If it is so easy why is it not tried more?

3) The rules say the free kick counts the same as a held kick, no arguments.

4) Some of the posters on here are saying rules do not count and should be bent to suit their needs. This group should run for the US Congress, they would fit right in!

[OffTheHook]

brian for a guy that left the johnson county school system ,you sure troll are threads alot .

Really, Dude if you are gonna use my name at least share yours. I may help at Paintsville. But, I also had one graduate from JCHS and I'm on lots of threads. See the difference between me an most is that I truelly LOVE High School sports. I have been to other venues besides JC and PHS watching other teams. The same thing happens even more in basketball when we aren't playing. Baseball season. We won't even go there.

This is why I really let most the crap posted on here just flow off my back. Because my true sports "friends" from BOTH schools are always texting me and asking scores and what's up. You know if more people would learn to be more supportive and proud of the two GREAT SCHOOLS that we have in this county. The better off we will all be!

Eagle84. Give it up......EVERYBODY ELSE on this thread knows exactly what I meant but you!

I will be in a Gym or on a field for many many more years to come. If you don't believe me. Ask some of these kids that have moved on to the next level if they haven't seen me around and talking to them and supporting them. I don't forget them when they graduate.

[OffTheHook]

brian for a guy that left the johnson county school system ,you sure troll are threads alot .

Bryan for a guy that left The Johnson County School System. You sure troll our threads a lot.

[Pulp Fiction]

Don't worry OTH.... I know what's up.

Your my big homie.

[footballfever]

It is a remarkable kick. I do think there is a big difference in the 2 kicks and should be listed as 2 different records.
A 99 yard TD pass and a 99 yard TD run all count as 6 points but they would be listed as 3 different records. 99 yard pass, 99 yard reception and a 99 yard run. They would not all 3 be listed a tie for a 99 yard TD.

[Pulp Fiction]

It is a remarkable kick. I do think there is a big difference in the 2 kicks and should be listed as 2 different records.
A 99 yard TD pass and a 99 yard TD run all count as 6 points but they would be listed as 3 different records. 99 yard pass, 99 yard reception and a 99 yard run. They would not all 3 be listed a tie for a 99 yard TD.

Good point.

[OffTheHook]

Good point.

Actually. ....BEST point of the thread! Nice one man!

[MtnHSFootballFan]

It is a remarkable kick. I do think there is a big difference in the 2 kicks and should be listed as 2 different records.
A 99 yard TD pass and a 99 yard TD run all count as 6 points but they would be listed as 3 different records. 99 yard pass, 99 yard reception and a 99 yard run. They would not all 3 be listed a tie for a 99 yard TD.

I don't think anyone would argue that there is not a difference in Pack's record tying 58 yard FG and his record setting 60 yard FG. Besides them being kicked differently, one was longer than the other. But it's not his fault that the present rules counts them both as just a FG. He had to play under the rules that were in existence at game time. Maybe after all the discussions the KHSAA will change the rulebook. I know this is the first time, this has come up, to my knowledge, but here it is or there it was. Those that have a problem with it should lobby the KHSAA to change the rules before Pack or someone else breaks the 60 yard record with the same kind of kick and the Civil (or Uncivil) War starts again.

But it still is a great accomplishment for the young man. Congrats again Tyler! :Thumbs:

[OffTheHook]

Some may not agree. But with well over 1000 views. This actually has been a pretty decent thread. I for one appreciate everyones honesty and opinions. we ALL agree at least that it was a great accomplishment for this kid!

[RunItUpTheGut]

i dont see whats wrong with putting them in two seperate categories.
One as a free kick and one as a field goal.
Both should be kept as records.

As i was saying before, the kid will probably break the traitional record anyways.

[Scotty_Bronson]

I firmly believehe will break the record a few times. I have seen the kid kickin person and if JC gets their blocking right(they havehad several kicks blocked but they havent been Packs fault), it wouldnt suprise me to see the kid belt one TRADITIONALLY from 65 or 70 yds. He is a big kid with good length to his legs. I will be shocked if he doesnt own 3 or 4 different fg records when all is said and done.

[cj2561]

I am all for scoring points in any way possible. If the circumstances present themselvs and a team can score, by using this ancient method, and the stars line up, the planets align, a free kick could potentially win a ball game. Personally though, I feel the records need to stand in their own category. I kicked some in HS and there is a massive difference in kicking the ball off and kicking with a snap, holder, and pressure. I also got the chance to watch and kick with Aaron Pettery, one of the best kickers/atheletes to come out of EKY and one of the best kickers to ever come out of the state. If all the circumstances were right, he could have set 80 yd records in hs. Ive seen him hit a 65, 70, 72 yd fg in practice. That was with a long snapper, holder, but no defense. The 58 yard record he set against Berea, would have been good from 60 easily. There was a kid from nky a few years back that had a good leg but i cant recall the name. He hit several from 50+ that year. There are many kickers year in and year out with the ability to kick the ball accurately through the uprights on kick offs. Ive seen Pettery do it from the 20. I feel like the free kick should stand on its own, not actually be considered a FG record bc you have to completely different circumstances.

in 1998 Middlesboro kicker, he kick a few from 60 yards out that year, he broke his own record 3 times that year. the only team that beat them that year was Bell Co.
that year if Middlesboro got to the 45 yard line, they will have 3 points. his record was 66 or 67 yards FG.
some one broke that boy from Middlesboro record in the early 2000's to mid 2000's with a 68 yard FG.

[Diogenes]

Wynn's record has been broken at least twice since then. The national record is 67, I believe.

[Hatz]

in 1998 Middlesboro kicker, he kick a few from 60 yards out that year, he broke his own record 3 times that year. the only team that beat them that year was Bell Co.
that year if Middlesboro got to the 45 yard line, they will have 3 points. his record was 66 or 67 yards FG.
some one broke that boy from Middlesboro record in the early 2000's to mid 2000's with a 68 yard FG.

Actually Wynn's longest was 57 yards.

The State Record was 58 set by This kid from Johnson Central and Aaron Pettrey.

It is now 60 yards. :Thumbs:

[2dog]

Common sense tells you that it's not the same. The rule is BS and I only hate politicians. Congrats to the kid and I hope he breaks the real record soon. Hope he kicks for UK some day.

[sportsguru4u]

The free kick is a rule through out the levels of football. Even in the NFL. So I guess the gold standard for football which is the NFL can have the rule and those who make and use the rarely attempted free kick can claim those records in the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE throughout history but high school:dudecomeon::dudecomeon::dudecomeon: kids from KY should be held to a higher standard lmao. What the hell is wrong with you people. The record books doesn't differentiate from which was a free kick or a normal FG kick. They are both a FG

[Orange Blaze]

Breaking a record with free kick is the equivalent if breaking the record in the 100 meter dash with the wind blowing in your back. I am not taking anything away from him, the kid had a leg and he should be proud of himself. As many have stated Pack is a sophomore and will likely break his own record with a "legit" field goal which will quiet all of the critics of the current record but until that happens this record will always have an unofficial asterisk beside it.

[Hurricane Storm]

:popcorn:

[2dog]

I feel bad for the kid who's record was broken. He did it under the strain of a real field goal situation. Opposition in his face trying their best to block the kick or pressure the kicker to miss. This one had none of that. Far to easy to be considered a record breaking FG. The kid who kicked the real field goal has been robbed. The rule stands, but it's a shameful way to get the record. There is a truth that you guys can scream and haller about!:yikes:

[Bob Seger]

I feel bad for the kid who's record was broken. He did it under the strain of a real field goal situation. Opposition in his face trying their best to block the kick or pressure the kicker to miss. This one had none of that. Far to easy to be considered a record breaking FG. The kid who kicked the real field goal has been robbed. The rule stands, but it's a shameful way to get the record. There is a truth that you guys can scream and haller about!:yikes:

Boy, you really are dumb as a stick, aren't you? But really, it's not that you have not proven that fact time and time again on here, sooooooo, I guess you feel that you have to just reinforce it one more time. Is that what it is? You just trying to make sure we all know you're a real ding a ling?..Are you just messing around with us?....If you had the first clue as to what you are talking about, you would know that he was already the holder of the record that he just broke.:eyeroll:

[RIPKIN]

[quote=2dog]I feel bad for the kid who's record was broken. He did it under the strain of a real field goal situation. Opposition in his face trying their best to block the kick or pressure the kicker to miss. This one had none of that. Far to easy to be considered a record breaking FG. The kid who kicked the real field goal has been robbed. The rule stands, but it's a shameful way to get the record. There is a truth that you guys can scream and haller about!:yikes:[/QUOTE. This is the kid who's record he broke.He was the one that had the record.He did it under "real" field goal situation. So you are saying he robbed himself. He had the previous record of 58 yards.Maybe you need to read up on it a little before you post.

[Bob Seger]

[quote=2dog]I feel bad for the kid who's record was broken. He did it under the strain of a real field goal situation. Opposition in his face trying their best to block the kick or pressure the kicker to miss. This one had none of that. Far to easy to be considered a record breaking FG. The kid who kicked the real field goal has been robbed. The rule stands, but it's a shameful way to get the record. There is a truth that you guys can scream and haller about!:yikes:[/QUOTE. This is the kid who's record he broke.He was the one that had the record.He did it under "real" field goal situation. So you are saying he robbed himself. He had the previous record of 58 yards.Maybe you need to read up on it a little before you post.

All you have to do RIPKIN is just go back and read this morons old posts and see that he is a real simpleton to begin with....This is just a typical post from him.

[WideRight05]

I feel bad for the kid who's record was broken. He did it under the strain of a real field goal situation. Opposition in his face trying their best to block the kick or pressure the kicker to miss. This one had none of that. Far to easy to be considered a record breaking FG. The kid who kicked the real field goal has been robbed. The rule stands, but it's a shameful way to get the record. There is a truth that you guys can scream and haller about!:yikes:

If I'm correct, the sophomore kicker for Johnson Central already tied his record. So, if this 60 yarder didn't count then the young man would still be sharing the record with somebody.

I'm sure now Matney will have him kick a 60 yarder just to shut everybody up lol. But for a kid that's a sophomore to be this good of a kicker, that's just insane. Hope he gets some good looks from colleges!

[pirateforlife00]

http://www.maxpreps.com/blogs/maxwire-na...d-goal.htm

Don't know if anyone has posted it but here was an article on maxpreps that talks about the kid's accomplishment. It also has the video of the kick with it.

[MtnHSFootballFan]

For you guys and gals that didn't appreciate Tyler Pack's record 60 yard FG, here's a video of his record tying 58 yard field goal:

http://video.berecruited.com/videos/hsco...9/81067525

Notice how easy that was for him. Piece of cake! :Clap:

[khsgamenight]

You lose sight of the football as it goes through the uprights. But from the trajectory, it may have cleared the cross bar by about 10 yards or so.

[MtnHSFootballFan]

You lose sight of the football as it goes through the uprights. But from the trajectory, it may have cleared the cross bar by about 10 yards or so.

It sure seemed easy for him. He makes tuning into JC games interesting. Now, if they can get there PAT problem corrected. They need to prevent the blocks.