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08-03-2011, 08:19 PM
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08-07-2011, 08:01 PM
I think it is a very good idea. 20 or 30 bucks isn't a lot for kids to play a sport.
08-08-2011, 05:23 PM
UKisN1 Wrote:Public schools are to provide a free education. Is athletics a part of that? As a parent, I have paid for pictures, caps and gowns, 8th grade and senior trips, etc. is athletics any different?
A great question, and the answer is YES, athletics are different. As important as those things you mention are to many students, none has the power to keep a marginal student in school the way athletics does. Many policies done for other reasons, policies like transfer rules, grade restrictions, and athletic fees, work against the worthwhile goals of keeping the kid around to graduate, work towards goals, work with teammates, and develop confidence.
08-08-2011, 05:31 PM
An apropos article on the subject today from the Associated Press, by way of the WLEX-18 website:
New Nonprofit Helps Students Pay to Play Sports
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) - A nonprofit organization has formed in Franklin County that helps students pay fees to play sports at public schools.
We Wanna Play was organized last year with a mission "to make sure every student athlete who wishes to participate in middle or high school varsity sports has that opportunity and is not held back by the escalating costs."
Founder Rob Hecker told the Lexington Herald-Leader (http://bit.ly/qOfvoG ) that fees for playing sports at any of Franklin County's high schools or middle schools range between $35 and $300.
He says he is planning a 5K run called Beat the Heat on Aug. 13 as a fund-raiser.
Hecker says he'd like to see the idea expand beyond Franklin County, saying the program he has started could be a model for others.
Western Hills High School principal Rita Rector said as districts are pressured to reduce costs, athletic budgets have been cut. That means more expenses for booster organizations and fewer resources to help kids.
"We don't have a lot of flexibility in our funding," she said.
Hecker said some families can't afford even a small fee and he hopes the new program will help.
"We are saying we just want to ease the burden," he said.
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Information from: Lexington Herald-Leader, http://www.kentucky.com
(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Note: An expanded version of this is in the Herald-Leader, mentioning Mr. Hecker’s willingness to help people start similar programs in their communities!
New Nonprofit Helps Students Pay to Play Sports
FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) - A nonprofit organization has formed in Franklin County that helps students pay fees to play sports at public schools.
We Wanna Play was organized last year with a mission "to make sure every student athlete who wishes to participate in middle or high school varsity sports has that opportunity and is not held back by the escalating costs."
Founder Rob Hecker told the Lexington Herald-Leader (http://bit.ly/qOfvoG ) that fees for playing sports at any of Franklin County's high schools or middle schools range between $35 and $300.
He says he is planning a 5K run called Beat the Heat on Aug. 13 as a fund-raiser.
Hecker says he'd like to see the idea expand beyond Franklin County, saying the program he has started could be a model for others.
Western Hills High School principal Rita Rector said as districts are pressured to reduce costs, athletic budgets have been cut. That means more expenses for booster organizations and fewer resources to help kids.
"We don't have a lot of flexibility in our funding," she said.
Hecker said some families can't afford even a small fee and he hopes the new program will help.
"We are saying we just want to ease the burden," he said.
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Information from: Lexington Herald-Leader, http://www.kentucky.com
(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Note: An expanded version of this is in the Herald-Leader, mentioning Mr. Hecker’s willingness to help people start similar programs in their communities!
08-09-2011, 12:01 PM
I do know that the school that I'm currently coaching at charges an athletic fee and it's pretty expensive, I believe around $100 for each student athlete and $25 for each additional sport..
08-13-2011, 01:03 PM
The school I'm most familiar with charged $25 per sport. Upon payment, the athlete would receive a student sports pass that could be used at any home sporting event. It served several purposes. Parents weren't "nickeled and dimed" to death forking over money to attend weekly games. It helped boost attendance at the various sports contests. A lot of athletes would stick around after their practices to attend. Family sports passes were offered at discounted prices, also. While some grumbled, most of the community realized the school was trying to help offset some of the costs of kids participating.
08-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Jon419 Wrote:This is CRAZY!! Public Schools should not even be allowed to make students "Pay to Play"
So you are suggesting that the taxes in those areas should be increased? Again, I don't know of a school in NKY that does not charge a fee. So, if schools are not charging, then it means that they are either receiving that funding through taxes or state funding due to the average income of the families being so low! This notion that schools make all of their money through fundraising is rediculous? Does anyone know how much it costs to run just the football program? Think of every single sport that a school must fund! Their is no possible way that $500K comes from fundraising for every one of those schools!
08-14-2011, 05:23 PM
I don't agree with it, but in other states MI and FL, they charge a non-refundable fee to try out for a team.
08-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Stardust Wrote:So you are suggesting that the taxes in those areas should be increased? Again, I don't know of a school in NKY that does not charge a fee. So, if schools are not charging, then it means that they are either receiving that funding through taxes or state funding due to the average income of the families being so low! This notion that schools make all of their money through fundraising is rediculous? Does anyone know how much it costs to run just the football program? Think of every single sport that a school must fund! Their is no possible way that $500K comes from fundraising for every one of those schools!
Stardust you are basically calling me a liar. I know that you may feel like everyone in Eastern Kentucky is intellectually inferior and that we would not have anything if it wasn't for the tax payers from the "Golden Triangle" but you are wrong. I cannot speak for every school but no tax dollars are being used in Letcher County other than for facilities and salaries. Sounds like we may need to go north to the "Golden Ones" and give them some money management and fundraising training. I do understand the need for fees in Northern Kentucky due to lack of fundraising because of the close proximity of the schools. I also believe that many in Northern Kentucky do not know what real fundraising is and what it entails. It is not just concessions and the gate. You may want to pay a visit and we can show you some fundraising and innovative ways to make money to help support your programs. Stardust, I am sure you are far more knowledgeable about the functioning of Northern Kentucky athletic programs than I am and I KNOW I am more knowledgeable about what has happened in Letcher County over the past 20 years.
09-04-2011, 10:47 AM
I played varsity baseball from 7th grade until i graduated and varsity basketball from 8th grade until i graduated and i never had to pay a fee. We had some fund raisers to make money for warm up jerseys and stuff but never had to pay a fee for anything. Thats crazy that some schools make students pay to play. Some may not have the money to pay.
09-04-2011, 12:53 PM
Within the last three weeks alone, the Letcher Central girls basketball boosters has raised:
1. $2000.00 at a pancake breakfast in conjunction with Wendy's restaurant
2. $1500.00 at a play day for grade school girls basketball teams in the county
3. $2000.00 to $3000.00 at a local Isom Days Festival selling Pizza and Hot Fudge
Brownies
1. $2000.00 at a pancake breakfast in conjunction with Wendy's restaurant
2. $1500.00 at a play day for grade school girls basketball teams in the county
3. $2000.00 to $3000.00 at a local Isom Days Festival selling Pizza and Hot Fudge
Brownies
09-04-2011, 01:08 PM
It's retarded if a kid has to pay to play a high school sport
09-04-2011, 01:10 PM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:Stardust you are basically calling me a liar. I know that you may feel like everyone in Eastern Kentucky is intellectually inferior and that we would not have anything if it wasn't for the tax payers from the "Golden Triangle" but you are wrong. I cannot speak for every school but no tax dollars are being used in Letcher County other than for facilities and salaries. Sounds like we may need to go north to the "Golden Ones" and give them some money management and fundraising training. I do understand the need for fees in Northern Kentucky due to lack of fundraising because of the close proximity of the schools. I also believe that many in Northern Kentucky do not know what real fundraising is and what it entails. It is not just concessions and the gate. You may want to pay a visit and we can show you some fundraising and innovative ways to make money to help support your programs. Stardust, I am sure you are far more knowledgeable about the functioning of Northern Kentucky athletic programs than I am and I KNOW I am more knowledgeable about what has happened in Letcher County over the past 20 years.
What the hell is this?? Get over your inferiority complex! No one is calling you anything, nor is anyone taking the time to feel sorry or overly happy for you! Good for you and for LCC - yippee, let's have a parade and drink hot chocolate together. "Can't we all just get along"...........
You live in a one horse town. Try doing what you do with a school at every block! Is that what you have in your town? If so, then I commend you and yours! I know what I know and what I do as a part of the coaching ranks for my school as well as those schools that we compete against in our area! You obviously have it different from where you are from! Neither of us have to pay $600 player fees as they do in Cincinnati, so we are both lucky aren't we?Good luck and glad you can save a bit more money, might be needed for therapy, because no one is out to slight you partner!
09-04-2011, 01:33 PM
No inferiority complex here. Just correcting false assumptions and ignorant statements made by some of our Northern Kentucky brethren. If you have read some of my other posts, you will find that I agree with you on the problems of fundraising in Northern Kentucky and the advantage that "one horse towns" have in regards to that. Just correcting what you feel are 'ridiculous notions". As far as therapy, I think it would be of greater benefit to individuals living in the past who still have mancrushes on fat, obese wrestlers from yesteryear.
09-04-2011, 02:37 PM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:No inferiority complex here. Just correcting false assumptions and ignorant statements made by some of our Northern Kentucky brethren. If you have read some of my other posts, you will find that I agree with you on the problems of fundraising in Northern Kentucky and the advantage that "one horse towns" have in regards to that. Just correcting what you feel are 'ridiculous notions". As far as therapy, I think it would be of greater benefit to individuals living in the past who still have mancrushes on fat, obese wrestlers from yesteryear.
OMG, I have just been dissed! Wow, I will go back into my hole and cry to myself and feel sorry that I am looked down by others who think they are so much better than me! I'm devastated and my feelings have been shattered because I am made fun of for being a Professional Wrestling fan of yesteryear! BUT - I will go pout later!
Hmm, there's a little irony for you!
Get real, your rant about EKY and how everyone thinks down about you is plain ignorant! I'm proud of being from NKY, just as you are from EKY and our "brethren" are from CKY, WKY and if there is such a thing SKY! Take your battle up with the politicians, not the constinuants. Nobody cares about where you are from. The Romans have stopped killing Christians! Apartheid and the Holocaust are memories! Slavery is over! And no one says EKY residents are anything more than from the eastern part of Kentucky!
09-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Stardust Wrote:OMG, I have just been dissed! Wow, I will go back into my hole and cry to myself and feel sorry that I am looked down by others who think they are so much better than me! I'm devastated and my feelings have been shattered because I am made fun of for being a Professional Wrestling fan of yesteryear! BUT - I will go pout later!
Hmm, there's a little irony for you!
Get real, your rant about EKY and how everyone thinks down about you is plain ignorant! I'm proud of being from NKY, just as you are from EKY and our "brethren" are from CKY, WKY and if there is such a thing SKY! Take your battle up with the politicians, not the constinuants. Nobody cares about where you are from. The Romans have stopped killing Christians! Apartheid and the Holocaust are memories! Slavery is over! And no one says EKY residents are anything more than from the eastern part of Kentucky!
I guess I will ride my one horse to town for my therapy on Tuesday. LOL.
09-04-2011, 04:15 PM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:I cannot speak for every school but no tax dollars are being used in Letcher County other than for facilities and salaries.
does Jenkins have their own facilities, and if so, who pays for it?
09-04-2011, 04:22 PM
Stardust Wrote:The Romans have stopped killing Christians! Apartheid and the Holocaust are memories! Slavery is over!
:gtfo: this just made your post a classic :1:
09-04-2011, 07:18 PM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:I guess I will ride my one horse to town for my therapy on Tuesday. LOL.
How did you get a horse? I figured you to be an Ass-man.... Donkey that is:biggrin:
09-05-2011, 12:58 AM
Stardust Wrote:How did you get a horse? I figured you to be an Ass-man.... Donkey that is:biggrin:
Gonna ride that Donkey Donkey Gonna ride that Donkey Donkey. No maybe I will be a fat ass man and post pictures of Dusty Whodes "the American Dweam". I wined and dined with kings and queens and slept in alleys and dined on pork-n-beans.
09-05-2011, 12:59 AM
toussaints Wrote:does Jenkins have their own facilities, and if so, who pays for it?
Yes they do and what is your point.
09-05-2011, 01:14 AM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:Gonna ride that Donkey Donkey Gonna ride that Donkey Donkey. No maybe I will be a fat ass man and post pictures of Dusty Whodes "the American Dweam". I wined and dined with kings and queens and slept in alleys and dined on pork-n-beans.
You wanna-be Fat Wrestler from the 80's wrestling fan, stop hiding in the closet and being a pretender! I knew it was envy and jealousy that made you hate that I thought of it before you......
09-05-2011, 01:16 AM
Stardust Wrote:You wanna-be Fat Wrestler from the 80's wrestling fan, stop hiding in the closet and being a pretender! I knew it was envy and jealousy that made you hate that I thought of it before you......
:Thumbs: I am more into the Crusher Blackwell and Haystacks Calhoun type wrestlers. The TRUE fat wrestlers.
09-05-2011, 01:25 AM
OrangenowBlue Wrote::Thumbs: I am more into the Crusher Blackwell and Haystacks Calhoun type wrestlers. The TRUE fat wrestlers.
LOL, now those are FAT wrestlers. I can only imagine what guys must have felt who worked matches with them - the smell had to be terrible
uke:Give me King Kong Bundy, Bam Bam Bigelow or Vader - Fats guys who could work
09-05-2011, 01:42 AM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:Yes they do and what is your point.
how do they pay for their facilities? jenkins tax dollars? fund raisers?
09-05-2011, 02:07 AM
[quote=toussaints]how do they pay for their facilities? jenkins tax dollars? fund raisers?[/QUOTE
I would assume tax dollars same as ours. I never stated that fund raisers were ever used for facilities or salaries. I stated before that was the only thing that tax money was used for. Check out Post 23. This was also discussed in a similar thread on the football section.
I would assume tax dollars same as ours. I never stated that fund raisers were ever used for facilities or salaries. I stated before that was the only thing that tax money was used for. Check out Post 23. This was also discussed in a similar thread on the football section.
09-05-2011, 09:35 PM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:I would assume tax dollars same as ours. I never stated that fund raisers were ever used for facilities or salaries. I stated before that was the only thing that tax money was used for. Check out Post 23. This was also discussed in a similar thread on the football section.
I wasn't making an argument of any sort, really I was just curious.
09-06-2011, 02:39 PM
non sense!
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