[MayfieldCardinal]

Don there is a world of difference when our freshmen are still able to score on a helpless Fulton team vs leaving a starter in to get a record. That in and of its self is difference enough. But to go even further, JC appears to have allowed a score to get more yards but even if not it is still wrong on the coach to leave a kid in a game just to chase records. Fulton was so bad that a Cards RB could have shattered this record but they didnt rather instead we let the freshmen run up the middle ever play and still scored. I saw both games, I guessing you did too??? Didn't think so

[MayfieldCardinal]

Don, why do you defend this guys actions anyway when you clearly know that no matter how you spin it he was classless to do this to a undermanned WC

[eaglefan98]

If you don't like what did or didn't happen against Woodford County, that's your business. Just remember some of you on here are badmouthing a 17 or 18 year old kid for setting a state record, and I am sure that most of these comments are coming from adults. I doubt that any of you would like it if this was your kid being slammed, so please stop doing it to someonelses kid. Love or hate Matney, I am sure he doesn't lose any sleep over it. Time to move on and worry about the next game and playoffs.

[Matman]

Because this kid is nowhere to be found on the D1 recruiting scene so if he was that great of a talent, he'd already have several offers and everyone in the state would know who he is. Do it in a close game and I'll take my hat off to the kid. If it's a matter of running for over 500 yards, he could also join the cross country team and do that every weekend!

This just minimizes what the record stands for as it doesn't appear to be achieved in the spririt of competion, rather in a contrived situation!

I'll be much more impressed if he can gain over 100 yards if his team gets to play Highlands in the playoffs!

Point is, the kid is not at fault as he only did his job and we'll never know if others could replicate this because their head coaches won't allow them to humiliate an obviously beaten opponent!

JJ is a junior and this has been his break out season. He has another season to prove himself to d1 schools. He has already done it to VTech's wrestling coach. I think he has proven himself against quality teams as well. Boyle was impressed.

[BlackcatAlum]

If you don't like what did or didn't happen against Woodford County, that's your business. Just remember some of you on here are badmouthing a 17 or 18 year old kid for setting a state record, and I am sure that most of these comments are coming from adults. I doubt that any of you would like it if this was your kid being slammed, so please stop doing it to someonelses kid. Love or hate Matney, I am sure he doesn't lose any sleep over it. Time to move on and worry about the next game and playoffs.

Who's badmouthing JJ?

That's right no one.

[Matman]

Not everyone see's things the way you do.

I do think if coaches wanted their players to break records on lesser opponents, then they could probably do it. Everyone has a cupcake game on their schedule, whether that be a district opponent or a non-district opponent.

Then what do you think records are for? Do you think records are being set in the Trinity/St X game? Only the attendance record. The record he broke was already set during a blow out game. Lets remember its not like Matney left his varsity in the set the record. He left JJ in to do something he wanted to do. I do not believe game records are that important. I think season records are better. However i believe this is a great gift for the young man and a way to get his name out there.

[Wideleft01]

Is this the same coach who stood up today at the Khsaa meeting and asked to be moved to 5A because the roads were bad to the 4A schools?

[wildcats fan]

why was jude even playing in the second half. when bell county is up and there is no way the other team cant catch up the sub in the freshman and jv team and they let them get better. i would suggest that johnson central does the same thing.

[MayfieldCardinal]

I guess a few are going to defend their coach to the end and that is their right to wear JC colored glasses but it is hard to give this record the credit it should have given the circumstances created by this coach who has a history of doing this sort of crap. The kid did a great job and I hope it is somthing he relishes forever but the coach is getting the state wide bashing he deserves. Have at it boys there is nothing else left to say about this that has not already been hashed out several times

[Stardust]

I guess a few are going to defend their coach to the end and that is their right to wear JC colored glasses but it is hard to give this record the credit it should have given the circumstances created by this coach who has a history of doing this sort of crap. The kid did a great job and I hope it is somthing he relishes forever but the coach is getting the state wide bashing he deserves. Have at it boys there is nothing else left to say about this that has not already been hashed out several times

I'm glad you hit on the main crux of this discussion. Great job by JJ Rude. He did what was asked of him and he did it at a level that has never been duplicated. JJ deserves all the credit from every poster on this site. Whether you support what the coach did, how can anyone not appreciate the accomplishment of JJ. People are so lost in the "how", versus the "what" that was accomplished. Whether you like it or not, JJ set a record that will be challenged again some day. The record holder that was previous to JJ - I AM POSSITIVE CAME AS THE SAME RESULT OF HURTING SOMEONE'S FEELINGS!


Congrats to JJ, You did your job!

[Bob Seger]

I guess a few are going to defend their coach to the end and that is their right to wear JC colored glasses but it is hard to give this record the credit it should have given the circumstances created by this coach who has a history of doing this sort of crap. The kid did a great job and I hope it is somthing he relishes forever but the coach is getting the state wide bashing he deserves. Have at it boys there is nothing else left to say about this that has not already been hashed out several times

I hope you hurry and get some relief from this whole situation. You have absolutely worried yourself to death on at least two seperate websites for days now. I know this has to be a traumatic situation for you. Prayers from Johnson Co. go out to you, and we ask all out there in computerland to join hands with us while thinking of you in your most dire time of need.:blondnurs

[livewire220]

Is this the same coach who stood up today at the Khsaa meeting and asked to be moved to 5A because the roads were bad to the 4A schools?

So what if it is! I know that JC was scheduled to present down there at the most political organization in the state of KY. The hypocrisy of the KHSAA is amazing. I hope Matney fought for his school. We sure would like to have him fighting for ours. Did anyone notice that Letcher Central was moved without even appealing but guess what they have OZ JACKSON on the BOC. Bell has to travel to Paducah, what a joke. Everyone should look at these districts, regions, and classes and you will see that they were drawn up by a couple of Good Ole Boys in some back room in order to benefit a few specific schools. The Wizard called OZ had his hands all over it. This organization is a joke and I'm puttin my money behind any State Rep. or Senator who can clean house at the mighty KHSAA.

[THOMCAT]

Thank you to all the people that are blasting Johnson Central, Coach Matney, the administration and anyone else involved with our program. I can remember a time when we had less fans in the stands than post on this thread. I can remember teams that had trouble winning half their games in a good season. I can remember better athletes walking the halls than playing football. Now we have a winning program. Now we have a state of the art facility. Now we have the premier athletes playing. Now we have an excellent feeder program. Now we have individuals from different schools, and I do not mean just the people on this site, critical of everything that we do and years ago they could not have found us on a map. Statements were made earlier that implied that we should not consider records that are set against weaker competition to be legit. If we go on the K.H.S.A.A. website and eliminate records that were set against lesser competition, most would be erased. When it comes down to it Johnson Central has the state single game rushing record, J.J. Jude has the individual single game rushing record, we will continue to win and I could care less what others think of our program.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

great LINE is what breaks records a running back just finds the hole and runs...
without a doubt have more respect for my O-LINE then ever they layed it out there, there was on play that made it great though.. when lackey almost beat me down the field on a 70 yrd td and made the go ahead blok on the five! thanks o-line

That was JJ's Facebook status about the record. No matter what the coach did the boy is a class act.

[flavor-splash]

great job jude but why leave him in the game up that much with playoffs around the corner

[Diogenes]

Thank you to all the people that are blasting Johnson Central, Coach Matney, the administration and anyone else involved with our program. I can remember a time when we had less fans in the stands than post on this thread. I can remember teams that had trouble winning half their games in a good season. I can remember better athletes walking the halls than playing football. Now we have a winning program. Now we have a state of the art facility. Now we have the premier athletes playing. Now we have an excellent feeder program. Now we have individuals from different schools, and I do not mean just the people on this site, critical of everything that we do and years ago they could not have found us on a map. Statements were made earlier that implied that we should not consider records that are set against weaker competition to be legit. If we go on the K.H.S.A.A. website and eliminate records that were set against lesser competition, most would be erased. When it comes down to it Johnson Central has the state single game rushing record, J.J. Jude has the individual single game rushing record, we will continue to win and I could care less what others think of our program.

Hallelujah, brother. Let the haters hate. It's what they do best. This horse is so dead, it's been beaten into glue. We got some Indians to scalp now. GO EAGLES.

[joejoe]

What a performance! JJ may be in line for his third KHS GameNight Player of the Week Award. As a side note (I guess it is actually a question) does this vault Jude into the rushing leader spot in the state? I would think he would have to be close.

Also, has anyone seen or heard the official rushing stats for the game? We went with the stats from the radio (usually very accurate) but with the margin being so slim (9 yds) it is possible that the official stats could be slightly differt.

Thomas of East Jessamine has a little over 1600 right now. Thomas coach has class, Thomas has been pulled at the half in 3 games. Jude is only a Jr. and a record for the coach is more inportant than his kid.

[joejoe]

I'm glad you hit on the main crux of this discussion. Great job by JJ Rude. He did what was asked of him and he did it at a level that has never been duplicated. JJ deserves all the credit from every poster on this site. Whether you support what the coach did, how can anyone not appreciate the accomplishment of JJ. People are so lost in the "how", versus the "what" that was accomplished. Whether you like it or not, JJ set a record that will be challenged again some day. The record holder that was previous to JJ - I AM POSSITIVE CAME AS THE SAME RESULT OF HURTING SOMEONE'S FEELINGS!


Congrats to JJ, You did your job!

If he had went out there and not broke the record and snapped his knee. Who gets the blame. He said he wanted to be out on the field, even though they were up that big, so he doesn't have class or has never been shown what a player with class has.

[Stardust]

We must have had a lot of wannabe's who never played the game before, (or were no good themselves) because I know of NO player who does not want to be on the field, no matter the score, no matter the situation to do what he has trained countless hours for. This is a teenager and people are too blind to see that this was an accomplishment of a teenage boy, one who was directed to do so by an adult, only to now be crticized by other adults. Those who take shots at a TEENAGER are gutless have ZERO Class!

[Hoot Gibson]

We must have had a lot of wannabe's who never played the game before, (or were no good themselves) because I know of NO player who does not want to be on the field, no matter the score, no matter the situation to do what he has trained countless hours for. This is a teenager and people are too blind to see that this was an accomplishment of a teenage boy, one who was directed to do so by an adult, only to now be crticized by other adults. Those who take shots at a TEENAGER are gutless have ZERO Class!

:Thumbs: JJ Jude did exactly what his coaches asked him to do. This is not the place to criticize a high school junior for doing everything right. There is no appropriate forum to publicly criticize a high school student by name for anything that happens on a football field.

[wiseguy85]

After reading all of this, I can see 2 things standing out to me. 1st - JJ Jude should be applauded for running his but off all night. I am sure he felt the next day, had to be exhausted! This is something he will remember forever! 2nd- and probably the most important piece to all this. Coach Matney did not let this record be broke in the natural course of the game. I did not see the game, only going by accounts recalled on here. But I think it is obvious that JC was the dominate team. Someone had said the score was 49-7 at half- I am assuming this is correct? And I am also assuming that JC did not allow a running clock. This is the main problem. I have no problem in leaving Jude in the game until the final whistle- it was WoodfordCo. job to stop him not Coach Matney, but to not allow a running clock- again I am assuming by allowing score that wouldn't other wise have happened, well there is something wrong with that. Again I am just basing this on what was said on here since I did not see the game in person.

[Stardust]

:Thumbs: JJ Jude did exactly what his coaches asked him to do. This is not the place to criticize a high school junior for doing everything right. There is no appropriate forum to publicly criticize a high school student by name for anything that happens on a football field.

After reading all of this, I can see 2 things standing out to me. 1st - JJ Jude should be applauded for running his but off all night. I am sure he felt the next day, had to be exhausted! This is something he will remember forever! 2nd- and probably the most important piece to all this. Coach Matney did not let this record be broke in the natural course of the game. I did not see the game, only going by accounts recalled on here. But I think it is obvious that JC was the dominate team. Someone had said the score was 49-7 at half- I am assuming this is correct? And I am also assuming that JC did not allow a running clock. This is the main problem. I have no problem in leaving Jude in the game until the final whistle- it was WoodfordCo. job to stop him not Coach Matney, but to not allow a running clock- again I am assuming by allowing score that wouldn't other wise have happened, well there is something wrong with that. Again I am just basing this on what was said on here since I did not see the game in person.

Two excellent posts. The young man did his job, plain and simple. In the real world, we are all asked to do our job, may not be what we want to do, or we may not even feel comforatable doing the job that we are asked, but bottom-line we are expected to do it at the best of our ability.

If someone wants to knock the coach, then start a new string, but the intent of this thread is to applaud the young man who accomplished what no other player in the history of Kentucky football has done.

For those who don't like it, then records is not your cup of tea. Records can only be accomplished by doing something extroidinary, and usually at the expense of others. Class, sportsmanship, that's another topic for another day and not the intent of this thread.

[Prototype]

Congratulations to Mr. JJ Jude. JJ is blessed with a great talent. I hope he uses it someday to reach others to lead them to GOD. It is hard at times to give recognition where it is due. We all have our reasons why? Everyone can speak their own mind and it is rightfully their right. I think if we all would just step back and examine our words we might see things in another light. Paul said to examine ourself daily. This is just football. Jealousy is of the devil things won't always go our way. Mr Jude if you do get a chance to read this post put GOD first in your life. You have the attention of a lot of people right now. Let JESUS shine in your life and you will be rewarded for your work. IF I have offended anyone please for give me. I only want my brothers and sisters to be as one family. I love to talk football just like the next guy and I hope I can do it in a GODLY manner. I have made the same mistakes on here as well. This is just as much for me as it is for everyone else. GOD Bless us all.

[GRIFFIN]

Good job jj

[swagcaptain]

Congrats JJ!!!!

[Matman]

After reading all of this, I can see 2 things standing out to me. 1st - JJ Jude should be applauded for running his but off all night. I am sure he felt the next day, had to be exhausted! This is something he will remember forever! 2nd- and probably the most important piece to all this. Coach Matney did not let this record be broke in the natural course of the game. I did not see the game, only going by accounts recalled on here. But I think it is obvious that JC was the dominate team. Someone had said the score was 49-7 at half- I am assuming this is correct? And I am also assuming that JC did not allow a running clock. This is the main problem. I have no problem in leaving Jude in the game until the final whistle- it was WoodfordCo. job to stop him not Coach Matney, but to not allow a running clock- again I am assuming by allowing score that wouldn't other wise have happened, well there is something wrong with that. Again I am just basing this on what was said on here since I did not see the game in person.

So should JC have left their varsity D in to keep them from scoring?

[Hatz]

So should JC have left their varsity D in to keep them from scoring?

Question (for information purposes only): Was that the first string offensive line playing for JC in the 4th quarter. Not familiar with all the starters so I was curious. Thanks. :Thumbs:

[Southeast Bluegrass]

Hey guys if any coach that has a kid that can get a State Record he will let him! Matney was subing in the third series with 5 min to go in the first quarter. Woodford is a 5A school. Woodford was keying on Jude and he earned every yard.


Let's congraulate JJ on on super job.

Congrats to JJ first off.

You don't think Coach Hilton could set some records against Madison Southern or McCreary if he wanted to. I disagree with your statement. I don't think he even played the Davenport running back against Madison Southern.

[MonsterMan]

Everyone on here thinks their school or back could break the state record. But they did not.

JJ has the record and you guy have two choices:

1) Let your back go for the record
2) Shut up and get over it!

If you guys are such good two shoes idealist why do you slam a kid who earned every yard and a coach that let him earn it. I think you all are just jelous!

[Hatz]

Everyone on here thinks their school or back could break the state record. But they did not.

JJ has the record and you guy have two choices:

1) Let your back go for the record
2) Shut up and get over it!

If you guys are such good two shoes idealist why do you slam a kid who earned every yard and a coach that let him earn it. I think you all are just jelous!

If it was easy, everyone would do it.

Jude deserves praise for his efforts and he ran the ball like a warrior even when fatigued beyond belief.

However I think that Matney is the definition of narcissm.
1) He could have easily subbed his limping QB to have the 2nd string one hand off to Jude.
2) He could have subbed Jude after the record instead of leaving him in for a long run that was negated by penalty and sent the kid to the ground in exhaustion in the corner.
3) I think Jude and JC could have gotten the ball back without the "kick off" conspiracy.

Everything the players did for the record is worthy of honor. Everything the staff did is debatable IMO. :Thumbs: