[BlackcatAlum]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

Emotions were VERY high when this all went down. Keathley shouldn’t have done that, but Howard shouldn’t have barked back at the parent over the PA either when leading the prayer circle. You have consider Keathley & Allen were just flipped off at the scores table, lost an emotional game, some guy was being escorted out, Pburg folks were FUMING over the foul situation, and then it all lead to this. 

It was a series of unfortunate events. 

BL admin and staff should’ve read the room a little better with all that was going on and just had the teams go to their locker rooms and call it a night.

[Red and Black]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

If someone used a microphone to publicly disrespect your mother, how would you handle it? I don’t necessarily agree with Keithley’s decision to rush him, but I don’t disagree either. I understand it and I deeply respect it. I think it shows a deep sense of his character, honestly. Call me old school, but no man should allow someone to disrespect their mother. I don’t care who you are. I 100% would have done the exact same thing as a 16 year old. Shoot, I can’t promise that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing right now as a 40 year old! Also, you should not compare a parent speaking without a microphone after a high emotion game to a coach speaking with a microphone after the same game. Coaches should be held to higher standards than fans and parents. As representatives of their schools and communities they should model better behavior for their players than using a microphone to tell opposing fans to shut up. How many younger kids in attendance saw the bookkeeper flip Keithley off? How many heard Howard tell a Pburg parent to shut up over the PA? Are we ok with that for our kids? IMO, Howard failed the coaching standards test in multiple ways on multiple levels last night. If he had any honor he would be totally ashamed of using his public platform as a role model to his players and his community in that way, especially right before leading them in a public prayer! Not only did he make Betsy Layne look bad he also made all other disciples of Jesus look bad in that moment, and honestly I don’t know which is worse.

No other coaches or school officials in the 15th act like Betsy Layne’s do. Their coaches and officials model bad behavior and the kids don’t know any better than to emulate it. I don’t blame the kids, they are kids. I blame the administrators who continue to hire and allow their coaches to model bad behavior in front of their kids even after it’s been brought to their attention time after time after time after time just so they can have a better chance to win ball games. It’s shameful how they are teaching and impacting those kids. Some of the best people I know live in Betsy Layne, some of my best friends, but if this problem is going to be corrected then they’re going to have to be the ones that stand up to the administration and say enough is enough. Because crap like this keeps happening again and again and again.

Yes, they are district champs and they should be very proud of that. Congratulations to those kids. Those kids played a heck of a game and they deserved to win, but people in Betsy Layne need to look themselves in the mirror this week and ask themselves if winning is really more important than honor and decency? Is it more important than getting people involved with the program who will teach these kids the right way to act moving forward?Because that’s the shape that at least two of their athletic programs are in right now, and everybody in the mountains knows it.

[BCF4L]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

Emotions were VERY high when this all went down. Keathley shouldn’t have done that, but Howard shouldn’t have barked back at the parent over the PA either when leading the prayer circle. You have consider Keathley & Allen were just flipped off at the scores table, lost an emotional game, some guy was being escorted out, Pburg folks were FUMING over the foul situation, and then it all lead to this. 

It was a series of unfortunate events. 

BL admin and staff should’ve read the room a little better with all that was going on and just had the teams go to their locker rooms and call it a night.

This is what we know is NEVER going to happen at Betsy Layne. If this was a one off occasion, sure. But when your teams and fans require police nearly every single event, it’s called a pattern.

[kai]

Only question I have is did PBurg score keeper go to official book at half time or any point to make sure books were the same, like they are suppose to by rule to avoid a mess like this. In 57 I know they did this and mistakes were caught and corrected.

[P. Fanning]

Mike Howard didn't turn the other cheek last night and that was unfortunate.

[Westside]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

Emotions were VERY high when this all went down. Keathley shouldn’t have done that, but Howard shouldn’t have barked back at the parent over the PA either when leading the prayer circle. You have consider Keathley & Allen were just flipped off at the scores table, lost an emotional game, some guy was being escorted out, Pburg folks were FUMING over the foul situation, and then it all lead to this. 

It was a series of unfortunate events. 

BL admin and staff should’ve read the room a little better with all that was going on and just had the teams go to their locker rooms and call it a night.

I agree 100%.  You also have to consider the fact that these are kids.  They may not make the best decisions.  As a result, adults need to act like adults and not giving the finger to kids regardless.  As Blackcat said, with how high emotions were running, A prayer circle may have not been the best idea at the time.

[jetpilot]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

If someone used a microphone to publicly disrespect your mother, how would you handle it? I don’t necessarily agree with Keithley’s decision to rush him, but I don’t disagree either. I understand it and I deeply respect it. I think it shows a deep sense of his character, honestly. Call me old school, but no man should allow someone to disrespect their mother. I don’t care who you are. I 100% would have done the exact same thing as a 16 year old. Shoot, I can’t promise that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing right now as a 40 year old! Also, you should not compare a parent speaking without a microphone after a high emotion game to a coach speaking with a microphone after the same game. Coaches should be held to higher standards than fans and parents. As representatives of their schools and communities they should model better behavior for their players than using a microphone to tell opposing fans to shut up. How many younger kids in attendance saw the bookkeeper flip Keithley off? How many heard Howard tell a Pburg parent to shut up over the PA? Are we ok with that for our kids? IMO, Howard failed the coaching standards test in multiple ways on multiple levels last night. If he had any honor he would be totally ashamed of using his public platform as a role model to his players and his community in that way, especially right before leading them in a public prayer! Not only did he make Betsy Layne look bad he also made all other disciples of Jesus look bad in that moment, and honestly I don’t know which is worse.

No other coaches or school officials in the 15th act like Betsy Layne’s do. Their coaches and officials model bad behavior and the kids don’t know any better than to emulate it. I don’t blame the kids, they are kids. I blame the administrators who continue to hire and allow their coaches to model bad behavior in front of their kids even after it’s been brought to their attention time after time after time after time just so they can have a better chance to win ball games. It’s shameful how they are teaching and impacting those kids. Some of the best people I know live in Betsy Layne, some of my best friends, but if this problem is going to be corrected then they’re going to have to be the ones that stand up to the administration and say enough is enough. Because crap like this keeps happening again and again and again.

Yes, they are district champs and they should be very proud of that. Congratulations to those kids. Those kids played a heck of a game and they deserved to win, but people in Betsy Layne need to look themselves in the mirror this week and ask themselves if winning is really more important than honor and decency? Is it more important than getting people involved with the program who will teach these kids the right way to act moving forward?Because that’s the shape that at least two of their athletic programs are in right now, and everybody in the mountains knows it.

If your mother is screaming insults at people on the floor (who are trying to pray no less) from the stands she is going to get plenty of disrespect. No sympathy for her. No excuse for charging at the coach either, under any circumstances. I watched the game and there is plenty of blame to go around. The "this is all BL's fault" narrative doesn't fly. Again, I have zero problem whatsoever with someone yelling back at someone in the stands screaming insults at them.

[Westside]

Betsy Layne is not 100% to blame for this. Toward the end of the game, Prestonsburg made a very hard foul on a Betsy Layne player. At that time, the WPRG announcers made the comment that it was going to be a very interesting trophy presentation after the game. After the game, when things had cooled off some, it was a Pburg fan that yelled at the Betsy Layne coach that escalated things again. When the coach responded, it was a Pburg player who tried to physically attack him. Pburg has some blame in what happened as well. It isn't 100% on Betsy Layne.

[Khalisimo]

i was gonna keep quiet but i have tried to root for betsy layne over the years and they make it nearly impssobile. emotions were high and the individual felt the need to chirp back at an upset parent...... if braxton would have knocked him out id have gotten prestonsburg to sell keathley jerseys and bought two......

[jetpilot]

i was gonna keep quiet but i have tried to root for betsy layne over the years and they make it nearly impssobile. emotions were high and the individual felt the need to chirp back at an upset parent...... if braxton would have knocked him out id have gotten prestonsburg to sell keathley jerseys and bought two......

I can't get on board with the kid is so cool for almost starting a riot where a lot of people would have got hurt crowd...

Let me get this straight:

Crazy woman screaming insults from the stands: victim, 0% blame
Guy with mic responds: low-class a-hole, 100% blame
Player charges guy with mic, nearly causes riot: cool, hero, 0% blame

Give me a break.

[Red and Black]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

If someone used a microphone to publicly disrespect your mother, how would you handle it? I don’t necessarily agree with Keithley’s decision to rush him, but I don’t disagree either. I understand it and I deeply respect it. I think it shows a deep sense of his character, honestly. Call me old school, but no man should allow someone to disrespect their mother. I don’t care who you are. I 100% would have done the exact same thing as a 16 year old. Shoot, I can’t promise that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing right now as a 40 year old! Also, you should not compare a parent speaking without a microphone after a high emotion game to a coach speaking with a microphone after the same game. Coaches should be held to higher standards than fans and parents. As representatives of their schools and communities they should model better behavior for their players than using a microphone to tell opposing fans to shut up. How many younger kids in attendance saw the bookkeeper flip Keithley off? How many heard Howard tell a Pburg parent to shut up over the PA? Are we ok with that for our kids? IMO, Howard failed the coaching standards test in multiple ways on multiple levels last night. If he had any honor he would be totally ashamed of using his public platform as a role model to his players and his community in that way, especially right before leading them in a public prayer! Not only did he make Betsy Layne look bad he also made all other disciples of Jesus look bad in that moment, and honestly I don’t know which is worse.

No other coaches or school officials in the 15th act like Betsy Layne’s do. Their coaches and officials model bad behavior and the kids don’t know any better than to emulate it. I don’t blame the kids, they are kids. I blame the administrators who continue to hire and allow their coaches to model bad behavior in front of their kids even after it’s been brought to their attention time after time after time after time just so they can have a better chance to win ball games. It’s shameful how they are teaching and impacting those kids. Some of the best people I know live in Betsy Layne, some of my best friends, but if this problem is going to be corrected then they’re going to have to be the ones that stand up to the administration and say enough is enough. Because crap like this keeps happening again and again and again.

Yes, they are district champs and they should be very proud of that. Congratulations to those kids. Those kids played a heck of a game and they deserved to win, but people in Betsy Layne need to look themselves in the mirror this week and ask themselves if winning is really more important than honor and decency? Is it more important than getting people involved with the program who will teach these kids the right way to act moving forward?Because that’s the shape that at least two of their athletic programs are in right now, and everybody in the mountains knows it.

If your mother is screaming insults at people on the floor (who are trying to pray no less) from the stands she is going to get plenty of disrespect. No sympathy for her. No excuse for charging at the coach either, under any circumstances. I watched the game and there is plenty of blame to go around. The "this is all BL's fault" narrative doesn't fly. Again, I have zero problem whatsoever with someone yelling back at someone in the stands screaming insults at them.

Again, what if she was your mother being disrespected? What would you have done? If you think it's ok to not defend your mother in public then you and I were raised differently.

Tell us more about all the blame to go around. Keithley charging the coach can be blamed, sure, but what else would you blame anybody at Pburg for? Anything?

Put that side by side with the actions of the BL coach using the microphone after the game, the book keeper cheating the number of fouls and then flipping off and saying something to a player, BL players and cheerleaders rushing to the Pburg student section to cuss and taunt them immediately after the game, which was all captured on video. Not even to mention the similar manner that they behaved in the playoff football game. 

I outright reject the claim that there's plenty of blame to go around. The problem lies squarely with the Betsy Layne administration allowing this kind of nonsense to occur time after time, game after game, sport after sport and do absolutely nothing about it.

[Khalisimo]

i was gonna keep quiet but i have tried to root for betsy layne over the years and they make it nearly impssobile. emotions were high and the individual felt the need to chirp back at an upset parent...... if braxton would have knocked him out id have gotten prestonsburg to sell keathley jerseys and bought two......

I can't get on board with the kid is so cool for almost starting a riot where a lot of people would have got hurt crowd...

hell of a leap there jp lol

[Red and Black]

Betsy Layne is not 100% to blame for this.  Toward the end of the game, Prestonsburg made a very hard foul on a Betsy Layne player.  At that time, the WPRG announcers made the comment that it was going to be a very interesting trophy presentation after the game.  After the game, when things had cooled off some, it was a Pburg fan that yelled at the Betsy Layne coach that escalated things again.  When the coach responded, it was a Pburg player who tried to physically attack him. Pburg has some blame in what happened as well.  It isn't 100% on Betsy Layne.

A very hard foul? Are you serious???

THE BOOK KEEPER CHEATED AND FLIPPED A PLAYER OFF DURING THE GAME

THE COACH USED A MICROPHONE TO TELL PBURG PPL TO SHUT UP

ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS

[jetpilot]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

If someone used a microphone to publicly disrespect your mother, how would you handle it? I don’t necessarily agree with Keithley’s decision to rush him, but I don’t disagree either. I understand it and I deeply respect it. I think it shows a deep sense of his character, honestly. Call me old school, but no man should allow someone to disrespect their mother. I don’t care who you are. I 100% would have done the exact same thing as a 16 year old. Shoot, I can’t promise that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing right now as a 40 year old! Also, you should not compare a parent speaking without a microphone after a high emotion game to a coach speaking with a microphone after the same game. Coaches should be held to higher standards than fans and parents. As representatives of their schools and communities they should model better behavior for their players than using a microphone to tell opposing fans to shut up. How many younger kids in attendance saw the bookkeeper flip Keithley off? How many heard Howard tell a Pburg parent to shut up over the PA? Are we ok with that for our kids? IMO, Howard failed the coaching standards test in multiple ways on multiple levels last night. If he had any honor he would be totally ashamed of using his public platform as a role model to his players and his community in that way, especially right before leading them in a public prayer! Not only did he make Betsy Layne look bad he also made all other disciples of Jesus look bad in that moment, and honestly I don’t know which is worse.

No other coaches or school officials in the 15th act like Betsy Layne’s do. Their coaches and officials model bad behavior and the kids don’t know any better than to emulate it. I don’t blame the kids, they are kids. I blame the administrators who continue to hire and allow their coaches to model bad behavior in front of their kids even after it’s been brought to their attention time after time after time after time just so they can have a better chance to win ball games. It’s shameful how they are teaching and impacting those kids. Some of the best people I know live in Betsy Layne, some of my best friends, but if this problem is going to be corrected then they’re going to have to be the ones that stand up to the administration and say enough is enough. Because crap like this keeps happening again and again and again.

Yes, they are district champs and they should be very proud of that. Congratulations to those kids. Those kids played a heck of a game and they deserved to win, but people in Betsy Layne need to look themselves in the mirror this week and ask themselves if winning is really more important than honor and decency? Is it more important than getting people involved with the program who will teach these kids the right way to act moving forward?Because that’s the shape that at least two of their athletic programs are in right now, and everybody in the mountains knows it.

If your mother is screaming insults at people on the floor (who are trying to pray no less) from the stands she is going to get plenty of disrespect. No sympathy for her. No excuse for charging at the coach either, under any circumstances. I watched the game and there is plenty of blame to go around. The "this is all BL's fault" narrative doesn't fly. Again, I have zero problem whatsoever with someone yelling back at someone in the stands screaming insults at them.

Again, what if she was your mother being disrespected? What would you have done? If you think it's ok to not defend your mother in public then you and I were raised differently.

Tell us more about all the blame to go around. Keithley charging the coach can be blamed, sure, but what else would you blame anybody at Pburg for? Anything?

Put that side by side with the actions of the BL coach using the microphone after the game, the book keeper cheating the number of fouls and then flipping off and saying something to a player, BL players and cheerleaders rushing to the Pburg student section to cuss and taunt them immediately after the game, which was all captured on video. Not even to mention the similar manner that they behaved in the playoff football game. 

I outright reject the claim that there's plenty of blame to go around. The problem lies squarely with the Betsy Layne administration allowing this kind of nonsense to occur time after time, game after game, sport after sport and do absolutely nothing about it.

I wouldn't have charged the coach which almost certainly would have started a riot if I got to him. I'm an impartial observer here. Plenty of blame to go around and 95% of people who aren't BL or Prestonsburg fans would see it the same way.

Takes away from one of the best games I have seen in 20 years. The Prestonsburg kid got cheated whether it was intentional or an honest mistake and I hate that. Glad everyone gets to cool off and play on...

[Westside]

Betsy Layne is not 100% to blame for this.  Toward the end of the game, Prestonsburg made a very hard foul on a Betsy Layne player.  At that time, the WPRG announcers made the comment that it was going to be a very interesting trophy presentation after the game.  After the game, when things had cooled off some, it was a Pburg fan that yelled at the Betsy Layne coach that escalated things again.  When the coach responded, it was a Pburg player who tried to physically attack him. Pburg has some blame in what happened as well.  It isn't 100% on Betsy Layne.

A very hard foul? Are you serious???

THE BOOK KEEPER CHEATED AND FLIPPED A PLAYER OFF DURING THE GAME

THE COACH USED A MICROPHONE TO TELL PBURG PPL TO SHUT UP

ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS

Yes, I am serious. I have stated why everything was not Betsy Wayne's fault.

[Quincy]

This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

If someone used a microphone to publicly disrespect your mother, how would you handle it? I don’t necessarily agree with Keithley’s decision to rush him, but I don’t disagree either. I understand it and I deeply respect it. I think it shows a deep sense of his character, honestly. Call me old school, but no man should allow someone to disrespect their mother. I don’t care who you are. I 100% would have done the exact same thing as a 16 year old. Shoot, I can’t promise that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing right now as a 40 year old! Also, you should not compare a parent speaking without a microphone after a high emotion game to a coach speaking with a microphone after the same game. Coaches should be held to higher standards than fans and parents. As representatives of their schools and communities they should model better behavior for their players than using a microphone to tell opposing fans to shut up. How many younger kids in attendance saw the bookkeeper flip Keithley off? How many heard Howard tell a Pburg parent to shut up over the PA? Are we ok with that for our kids? IMO, Howard failed the coaching standards test in multiple ways on multiple levels last night. If he had any honor he would be totally ashamed of using his public platform as a role model to his players and his community in that way, especially right before leading them in a public prayer! Not only did he make Betsy Layne look bad he also made all other disciples of Jesus look bad in that moment, and honestly I don’t know which is worse.

No other coaches or school officials in the 15th act like Betsy Layne’s do. Their coaches and officials model bad behavior and the kids don’t know any better than to emulate it. I don’t blame the kids, they are kids. I blame the administrators who continue to hire and allow their coaches to model bad behavior in front of their kids even after it’s been brought to their attention time after time after time after time just so they can have a better chance to win ball games. It’s shameful how they are teaching and impacting those kids. Some of the best people I know live in Betsy Layne, some of my best friends, but if this problem is going to be corrected then they’re going to have to be the ones that stand up to the administration and say enough is enough. Because crap like this keeps happening again and again and again.

Yes, they are district champs and they should be very proud of that. Congratulations to those kids. Those kids played a heck of a game and they deserved to win, but people in Betsy Layne need to look themselves in the mirror this week and ask themselves if winning is really more important than honor and decency? Is it more important than getting people involved with the program who will teach these kids the right way to act moving forward?Because that’s the shape that at least two of their athletic programs are in right now, and everybody in the mountains knows it.

If your mother is screaming insults at people on the floor (who are trying to pray no less) from the stands she is going to get plenty of disrespect. No sympathy for her. No excuse for charging at the coach either, under any circumstances. I watched the game and there is plenty of blame to go around. The "this is all BL's fault" narrative doesn't fly. Again, I have zero problem whatsoever with someone yelling back at someone in the stands screaming insults at them.

Was about to say the same thing. If you can’t take it don’t dish it. Nothing personally against any of the BL coaches or the parent or player who were involved but in all fairness the parent wanted to say something first in a moment of respect then I think the betsy layne coach had every right to say something back. Just because he’s a coach doesn’t mean he’s not a human who isn’t gonna take any disrespect. And again I will defend my mother I’m almost every occasion but it isn’t my job to fight a grown adult for responding to her disrespectful actions.

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And to address the book keeper situation, in no world ever should a grown adult flip off a high school kid. Completely classless by him. What a fool.

[-STAT-]

Look, the Pburg fan shouldn't have said anything to begin with, emotions were already high, and it just added to it. Secondly, the BL coach as a public figure shouldn't have replied back either, as a public figure like he is, he should've just turned the other cheek and continued with his prayer or whatever, then the way the Pburg player reacted? I mean I understand if it were my mom I'd be pretty pissed off about it too, again emotions were at an all-time high and just have to try and keep em in check in that situation, but it was just a bad look overall on every account. All of this drama, nonsense and ignorance took away from what was the best game in the history of the 58th.

[Red and Black]

Only question I have is did PBurg score keeper go to official book at half time or any point to make sure books were the same, like they are suppose to by rule to avoid a mess like this.  In 57 I know they did this and mistakes were caught and corrected.

This is a good question. I know the lady that always keeps the book for Pburg was sitting up at the media table on the 2nd level across the floor from the score table, but I’m not sure if that was a voluntary decision on her part or if she was told to sit up there. I assume it was voluntary on her part.

My question though is whether or not all the books recorded the same number of total fouls. WMDJ announced that all 4 media book keepers had Allen with 4 fouls, so did the official book keeper mistakenly mark down a foul that was supposed to be on another kid to Allen or did he simply just add another foul on Allen? This should be reflected by the number of total fouls across all 5 books. I think that’s the big story. A mistake is one thing, but adding a foul out of thin air in overtime is another thing entirely.

[Pikecoballer]

I’ve not been at every BL game the past two seasons, but I’m going to say that this is the first big fiasco that I remember in the past two. To say that it’s always BL and they have to have police every game and they are constantly in trouble is a stretch now.

The few years before that seemed like they were looking for a fight every game, but the past two season seem relatively tame without any issues.

If I’m wrong, please tell me which game and where it was. I may very well be wrong. I mainly go to home and district games.

[UK Fan14]

Only question I have is did PBurg score keeper go to official book at half time or any point to make sure books were the same, like they are suppose to by rule to avoid a mess like this.  In 57 I know they did this and mistakes were caught and corrected.

yes the Pburg book compared at halftime and everything matched up, she is the best in the business and always lets the bench know the critical info needed. The bench knew Allen had 3 and Waller had 4 when it occured.

[Blackcat 4 Life]

I don't have the energy, nor am I in the mood to say what I really want to say. I will be blunt and to the point and as G rated as possible. Betsy Layne is trash, and until something is done, it will continue to get worse!

[Stan]

Best District game in many years. The players on both sides played a helluva game. Now Russell Kidd flipping off the players and cheating Allen out of his senior district game is what caused everything to spiral. And following the game immediately girls from BL came over to the prestonsburg side flipping off the fans. Tensions were high enough they needed to clear out and go straight to awards. The mom said we don’t want to hear you and head coach responses with we don’t want to hear you either. Can’t say I blame the mom after her son was flipped off by an official in front of the ref and nothing was done. Then taking out Allen on a bogus lie Russell Kidd should have been thrown out. Keathley goes to middle of circle telling him to apologize. I would do the same and worst if it was my mom. The whole scenario was under control bc BL guy had Keathley but a 21 year old man came from the scores table area and began shoving keathley an underage minor with force then prestonsburg got him away. Nothing major happened. I would like to think everyone regrets what happened. My view is no one from prestonsburg was cussing flipping people off or antagonizing anyone. If Russell kidd never cheated or flipped off the players then nothing would have taken place. None of that kind of behavior came from Prestonsburg it came from BL.

[SouthEast18]

I don't have the energy, nor am I in the mood to say what I really want to say. I will be blunt and to the point and as G rated as possible. Betsy Layne is trash, and until something is done, it will continue to get worse!

Just like in football they dont think they did anything wrong. Theres no accountability. Ever. It was WMDJs fault or it was the refs fault. It was that mean 16 year olds fault for losing his emotions. 

Same adults.

Same "Leaders" I almost throw up at calling the BL admin leaders, its quite funny.

Same results.


Its a shame that there is a lot of great people with wonderful character there, but no one sees that because the monkeys run the Zoo.

Dont tell them that though, pbrug is just jealous they lost .

[Yetty]

No matter what one thing is for certain both teams played great I’ve never seen a 4 over time game. Coach Howard should had walk his players off the court and prayed in the locker room unless he got no sense he knew that emotions where at a level that prayers should had been held in a private area. Second Russell Kidd made a mistake, we all do but he is a good person who made an awful mistake and should not be allowed to keep book for doing so or keep him from coming to a certain amount of games. If someone to blame, blame the refs for not throwing him out or the superintendent who was there or the police.

[MixedBatch]

I don't have the energy, nor am I in the mood to say what I really want to say. I will be blunt and to the point and as G rated as possible. Betsy Layne is trash, and until something is done, it will continue to get worse!

Just like in football they dont think they did anything wrong. Theres no accountability. Ever. It was WMDJs fault or it was the refs fault. It was that mean 16 year olds fault for losing his emotions. 

Same adults.

Same "Leaders" I almost throw up at calling the BL admin leaders, its quite funny.

Same results.


Its a shame that there is a lot of great people with wonderful character there, but no one sees that because the monkeys run the Zoo.

Dont tell them that though, pbrug is just jealous they lost .

Pburg fans aren’t “jealous they lost”; Pburg fans are mad about the events that happened before the loss. Now are the 2 BL fan bookkeepers cheating Allen out the only reason they lost? No, it was still a tie game after Allen went out. But I will say it was a huge momentum killer for Pburg and a really crappy situation for the senior. Then I think we can all agree about how Russell handled his situation

[Blue_Bird96]

Horrible look again for the bobcats but I’m sure like every other incident nothing will get corrected on the hill. One thing for a parent or fan to make a comment but a coach is out into a headship position and has to act like it. Very poor move on his part.

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Idk, but that scorekeeper for BL would have needed help getting out of that gym if that would have been my kid he screwed over then FLIPPED HIM OFF. Screwing him over is one thing, I would have let that slide, but you, as a grown ass man flip him the bird (which there is video proof and the commentators even seen it and brought it up on the live broadcast), one of us would have got an ass whooping.

Ol Scorekeeper is a lucky guy that Mr Justin Allen was in a different state or they would’ve been an ass whooping on the hill.

Lol no idea who Justin Allen is, but Russell is a big boy his self so talk is a little cheap here ?

Yea and so is “being big”. All that means is their big”. Learned that many years ago.

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Does Betsy Layne do prayer after every game win or lose?

Yes win or lose

See and that’s even more embarrassing. What’s the point of doing prayer after every game if that’s how you act during the game. Seems they need to be focusing on discipline. Spare the rod. Thats in there too.

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Tried every way in the world to keep from traveling for work so I could attend this game. God had other plans. I’d been in jail tonight.

Have you went back and watched the game to confirm if 4 fouls or 5 fouls? And if just 4 where did they give him his 5th? How many team fouls did they have and did they give another player's foul to Allen?

Waller fouled once and they gave it to Allen is what WMDJ said.

Yea but that wasn’t true. They were guessing. If you go back and watch Allen ends regulation with 2 fouls. They announce it every time and had it correct. Committed his 4th right after announcing “his 3rd” and suddenly it became his 5th

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This was one of if not the best game of the year. Both teams hard fought and played great. Also loves the sportsmanship from both teams throughout the game. However i think it is completely immature for a parent to yell at the opposing teams coach in the middle of the prayer circle. Whether you agree or disagree at what is going on there are better ways to handle it. As for Keathley rushing the coach it is completely classless. For someone who wants to play d1 basketball he has a bad attitude.

If someone used a microphone to publicly disrespect your mother, how would you handle it? I don’t necessarily agree with Keithley’s decision to rush him, but I don’t disagree either. I understand it and I deeply respect it. I think it shows a deep sense of his character, honestly. Call me old school, but no man should allow someone to disrespect their mother. I don’t care who you are. I 100% would have done the exact same thing as a 16 year old. Shoot, I can’t promise that I wouldn’t do the exact same thing right now as a 40 year old! Also, you should not compare a parent speaking without a microphone after a high emotion game to a coach speaking with a microphone after the same game. Coaches should be held to higher standards than fans and parents. As representatives of their schools and communities they should model better behavior for their players than using a microphone to tell opposing fans to shut up. How many younger kids in attendance saw the bookkeeper flip Keithley off? How many heard Howard tell a Pburg parent to shut up over the PA? Are we ok with that for our kids? IMO, Howard failed the coaching standards test in multiple ways on multiple levels last night. If he had any honor he would be totally ashamed of using his public platform as a role model to his players and his community in that way, especially right before leading them in a public prayer! Not only did he make Betsy Layne look bad he also made all other disciples of Jesus look bad in that moment, and honestly I don’t know which is worse.

No other coaches or school officials in the 15th act like Betsy Layne’s do. Their coaches and officials model bad behavior and the kids don’t know any better than to emulate it. I don’t blame the kids, they are kids. I blame the administrators who continue to hire and allow their coaches to model bad behavior in front of their kids even after it’s been brought to their attention time after time after time after time just so they can have a better chance to win ball games. It’s shameful how they are teaching and impacting those kids. Some of the best people I know live in Betsy Layne, some of my best friends, but if this problem is going to be corrected then they’re going to have to be the ones that stand up to the administration and say enough is enough. Because crap like this keeps happening again and again and again.

Yes, they are district champs and they should be very proud of that. Congratulations to those kids. Those kids played a heck of a game and they deserved to win, but people in Betsy Layne need to look themselves in the mirror this week and ask themselves if winning is really more important than honor and decency? Is it more important than getting people involved with the program who will teach these kids the right way to act moving forward?Because that’s the shape that at least two of their athletic programs are in right now, and everybody in the mountains knows it.

If your mother is screaming insults at people on the floor (who are trying to pray no less) from the stands she is going to get plenty of disrespect. No sympathy for her. No excuse for charging at the coach either, under any circumstances. I watched the game and there is plenty of blame to go around. The "this is all BL's fault" narrative doesn't fly. Again, I have zero problem whatsoever with someone yelling back at someone in the stands screaming insults at them.

Yea let’s lesson the blame of how BL acts at EVERY sporting event. Great idea maybe if we do that things will never get fixed in the hill.

[4 Quarters]

Wow, I have no dog in this fight.  Seems as if the stripes should have stepped in and reached a decision on this matter at time of occurrence, this is when all the BS started.

Mother has no business calling out anyone, the son should have approached her and gotten her under control, as opposed to approaching the coach.  We have all seen coaches take the mic to try to clam down rowdy crowds.

[SouthEast18]

I don't have the energy, nor am I in the mood to say what I really want to say. I will be blunt and to the point and as G rated as possible. Betsy Layne is trash, and until something is done, it will continue to get worse!

Just like in football they dont think they did anything wrong. Theres no accountability. Ever. It was WMDJs fault or it was the refs fault. It was that mean 16 year olds fault for losing his emotions. 

Same adults.

Same "Leaders" I almost throw up at calling the BL admin leaders, its quite funny.

Same results.


Its a shame that there is a lot of great people with wonderful character there, but no one sees that because the monkeys run the Zoo.

Dont tell them that though, pbrug is just jealous they lost .

Pburg fans aren’t “jealous they lost”; Pburg fans are mad about the events that happened before the loss. Now are the 2 BL fan bookkeepers cheating Allen out the only reason they lost? No, it was still a tie game after Allen went out. But I will say it was a huge momentum killer for Pburg and a really crappy situation for the senior. Then I think we can all agree about how Russell handled his situation

yea that was sarcasm.

[Sportscritic79]

Congratulations Bobcats on a great win! On to the next one.

[GooseOPikeville]

imagine being a senior playing in your last district game ever, and you foul out with 4 fouls......