[BellCoBobcats09]

Just don't forget Bell has a large Oline. Carter, Burnette, Gray, and Marsee all return this year.

[BellCoBobcats09]

You have to remember Bell Co lost 15 seniors twice since 08 and didn't phase them. That's the part of reloading each year. This year is the most players we have had out in a LONG time with 63.

[Hatz]

You have to remember Bell Co lost 15 seniors twice since 08 and didn't phase them. That's the part of reloading each year. This year is the most players we have had out in a LONG time with 63.

No one is "downing" Bell. But the facts are just that simple that they lost a huge chunk of their offensive skill set and about 1/2 their defense.

Lex Cath returns 8 on one side of the ball and 9 on the other. Add to that they return almost all of their skill players.

It's not like the Knights haven't won state titles and been in the spot light in the last 10 years either. (2007 and 2005)

As to whether it phased them it must have. They won a title in '08 but did not return to the title game in the next 2 years.

[BellCoBobcats09]

State Semi in 2009 isn't to shabby after losing ALOT.

[Hatz]

State Semi in 2009 isn't to shabby after losing ALOT.

No one is saying it is but it was 1 step than the previous year. :Thumbs::Thumbs:

[Jack Lambert]

I'm still gonna go with Bell in this one,because they can and will run the ball and control the clock.It should be a close game,but I just can't see Lex Cath slowing Davenport down.Its been a while since Catholic has put a good defense on the field,and i dont see them having any better defense this year than in the past.I think in the end Bell will be way to physical for Lex Cath,and that will be the decideing factor in the game.

[BM82]

I'm still gonna go with Bell in this one,because they can and will run the ball and control the clock.It should be a close game,but I just can't see Lex Cath slowing Davenport down.Its been a while since Catholic has put a good defense on the field,and i dont see them having any better defense this year than in the past.I think in the end Bell will be way to physical for Lex Cath,and that will be the decideing factor in the game.

Man LCath could be going against anybody and you would pick that team. You are a nobody who needs to get a life. Get that hate out of your heart:dontthink

[RunItUpTheGut]

You have a lot of assumptions based into your analysis IMO.

1) Lex Cath saw Boyle's offense last year, twice. Trust me, they have seen a line execute, backs like Cook and Cox so these returning kids have seen a physical team.

2) Bell lost way more starters than the Knights but you seem to confuse last year's Bobcat team with what will be on the field to start this years.

3) Bell's pass defense has rarely seen a passing game like Lex Cath will bring. That is the X Factor many aren't factoring in.


I respect the Bobcat program and think it will hinge on ball control for the Bobcats. They have to keep the ball out of Bolin's hands and grind it out IMO to beat the Knights. I think they can do that but don't see it as a blowout at any point. :Thumbs:

Great Points. If Lex Cath does do damge it will have to be with the passing game.

[RunItUpTheGut]

IMO this years Lexington Catholic team will not be shell shocked to be playing on the road. With all the starters LC has returning They have already played plenty of big games on the road at Trinity, St. X, and Boyle. I can see Bell pulling this game out, but IMO it will not be easy. I would really like to come down and watch this game to see how LC looks.

Those are good points, but keep in mind, theyve never been to Bell. Its harder to win there for a lot more reasons than the obvious ones.

[Jack Lambert]

Man LCath could be going against anybody and you would pick that team. You are a nobody who needs to get a life. Get that hate out of your heart:dontthink

I'd rather be a nobody than be you,I'll guarantee you that.as far as the games go i call it like i see it.Lexington catholic has not had a good defense in several years they're a finess team.on the other hand Bell has one of the best running games year in,and year out in the state they return thier entire offensive line along with one of the best backs in the state,Bell is one of the most physical teams in the state year in and year out. so yes i think Bell is gonna run the ball down lex caths throat and make 'em like it,i also think they will control the clock,and keep Bolin off the field. as far as my life goes i have two awsome kids a wonderful wife a great job,and i'm happy as can be.as for you, you need to ease up with the personal attacks it dosen't look good on you.this site is made for opinions about sports.if some one picks against your team get over it thats life.:blabbermo

[Bobcat_Dad]

Unreal, a majority of the Boyle fan picking LEXCATH. I have seen it all.

BTW they will also be favored over Boyle this year. Boyle lost most of there defense, all of their OL, QB, leading rusher, and do everything Dawson.



But I will still pick Boyle.

[Hatz]

Unreal, a majority of the Boyle fan picking LEXCATH. I have seen it all.

BTW they will also be favored over Boyle this year. Boyle lost most of there defense, all of their OL, QB, leading rusher, and do everything Dawson.



But I will still pick Boyle.

Why take it personally?

I would say a slight majority of the few Boyle fans that have posted are taking Lex Cath, but it's based on the FACTS of who returns vs. what is replaced.

Boyle lost their whole OL, QB and 2nd leading rusher(Cox was actually the leading rusher).

They return the aforementioned leading rusher (Cox), Almost all their receiving corps, and 6 defenders who started at one time or another last year.

I think Lex Cath is the favorite based on Bolin. If you look at my pick in this thread you would see that I believe Bell can win and how I think they can win. It's no shame to find that some think Lex Cath is the favorite. :Thumbs:

[Hatz]

Those are good points, but keep in mind, theyve never been to Bell. Its harder to win there for a lot more reasons than the obvious ones.

Lex Cath has, but this group has not been to Bell.

I think "where" you play isn't that important but who you play against. I can assure you that the Knights have played other State Powers who have been even more successful than Bell's program has been. I don't see them intimidated by a football field just like I would expect Bell to be intimidated at another place.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Lex Cath has, but this group has not been to Bell.

I think "where" you play isn't that important but who you play against. I can assure you that the Knights have played other State Powers who have been even more successful than Bell's program has been. I don't see them intimidated by a football field just like I would expect Bell to be intimidated at another place.

I think you kind of misunderstood what i mean by "obvious" ones. And also that i meant this group hasnt been there i know lex cath as a program has been there before.
I know Lex Cath has played some of the best teams in the state and have done so on a consecutive basis.
What i am getting at is the fact that thye havent played a team that is going to rough them up like this. As i stated before i wouldnt besurprised if anybody pounded them like Whitley did and Whitley doesnt compare to the lines of Bell. This is where im getting my prediction at. I think in order for Lex Cath to win they have to rely on big plays and 100% on the passing game and as a finess team in the first game of the year, i wouldnt be surprised to see Bell run away with it in the second half.

[Rebel55]

I think you kind of misunderstood what i mean by "obvious" ones. And also that i meant this group hasnt been there i know lex cath as a program has been there before.
I know Lex Cath has played some of the best teams in the state and have done so on a consecutive basis.
What i am getting at is the fact that thye havent played a team that is going to rough them up like this. As i stated before i wouldnt besurprised if anybody pounded them like Whitley did and Whitley doesnt compare to the lines of Bell. This is where im getting my prediction at. I think in order for Lex Cath to win they have to rely on big plays and 100% on the passing game and as a finess team in the first game of the year, i wouldnt be surprised to see Bell run away with it in the second half.

There is nothing I would like more than see Bell spank Lex Cath., but you can not factor in the Whitley game. I beliveve that was the first game of last season with the Knight starting like 8 sophomores. Those 8 are now Juniors and have a full season of playing experience under their belt now. I will tell you that Bell hasn't play a team that will pass, pass, and pass.

It's going to be an interesting game and I'll be rooting for the Bobcats!

[RunItUpTheGut]

There is nothing I would like more than see Bell spank Lex Cath., but you can not factor in the Whitley game. I beliveve that was the first game of last season with the Knight starting like 8 sophomores. Those 8 are now Juniors and have a full season of playing experience under their belt now. I will tell you that Bell hasn't play a team that will pass, pass, and pass.

It's going to be an interesting game and I'll be rooting for the Bobcats!

Like you said, it was the first game of the year. But so is this one.
All i have is the Whitley games to go off of because its the only ones ive seen Lex Cath play. Just stating the facts from what ive saw from both teams.

[Paul Crewe]

Just wondering if you saw the second match-up with Boyle- Cath. last year? Bell will not be close to as physical as they have been in the past few years. Very good, but not near as physical.

[RebelPride12]

Unreal, a majority of the Boyle fan picking LEXCATH. I have seen it all.

BTW they will also be favored over Boyle this year. Boyle lost most of there defense, all of their OL, QB, leading rusher, and do everything Dawson.



But I will still pick Boyle.

Good for you. If you have been paying attention to anything that most Boyle fans are saying then you would know that we expect to be underdogs in our Highlands and LexCath games. I am picking LexCath over Bell based on the fact that I saw both teams last games and I am not convinced Bell would have beaten LexCath last year let alone this year with what they bring back. I can't imagine Bolin not being better today than what he was last November and I can't imagine their defense still being as bad as it was last year. Quite honestly, I hope Bell wins the game. Then I will feel even better about our chances against LexCath. As of now I am scared of LexCath and I think they will be scary good because it seems all everyone talks about is Highlands. I'll say this, if Bell beats LexCath then anything other than a state title in 3A is a complete and total disappointment and a wasted season for Bell. LexCath will be that good. This year and next year. Good luck.

[Jack Lambert]

I think Bell would have beat Lex Cath last year by a couple of tds,I also think Lex cath's passing game will be great this year,but i dont think thier running game or defense will be even close to good.its not just last year its been several years since they have had a good running game or defense.I'll have some numbers after while to back up my words about thier defense.

[LexCathKnight15]

I think Bell would have beat Lex Cath last year by a couple of tds,I also think Lex cath's passing game will be great this year,but i dont think thier running game or defense will be even close to good.its not just last year its been several years since they have had a good running game or defense.I'll have some numbers after while to back up my words about thier defense.

In 2009 Lexington Catholic's Greg Raglin had over 1,700 yards and over 20 tds. Last year Bolin, Kumengisa, Konnor Vasiliko, and James Maddox all had around 600 yards each. They have had good running games for a while. Especially for a pass first team

[RebelPride12]

I think Bell would have beat Lex Cath last year by a couple of tds,I also think Lex cath's passing game will be great this year,but i dont think thier running game or defense will be even close to good.its not just last year its been several years since they have had a good running game or defense.I'll have some numbers after while to back up my words about thier defense.

I hear you but the only thing that matters about last year is teams finished and who comes back. LexCath pretty much brings back the same team on both sides of the ball. Regardless of the numbers you find we have no idea other than speculation on who would have won state if LexCath would have beaten Boyle. It is one thing to defend the pass and it is a whole other ball game to defend the LexCath passing attack. Between their qb and rb LexCath ran the ball very effectively against us because we didn't know what was coming half of the time. We have no proof whatsoever that Bell County can defend what LexCath is doing on offense. After we got up 21-7 LexCath handled us fairly easily and had they opened up the playbook from the opening kickoff then they very well may have been the state champions last year. If our defense couldn't stop LexCath then why should I believe anyone else's defense can?

[LexCathKnight15]

I think Bell would have beat Lex Cath last year by a couple of tds,I also think Lexcath's passing game will be great this year,but i dont think thier running game or defense will be even close to good.its not just last year its been several years since they have had a good running game or defense.I'll have some numbers after while to back up my words about thier defense.

In 2007 LexCath's D held opponents to 11.5 points per game on the way to a state championship. That's pretty good.
In 2008 they gave up 20 points per game over 13 games which isn't that bad
In 2009 they game up 21 ppg over 13 games which again isn't terrible.
Last season it was 31 ppg which is terrible but they were starting 5 sophomores and 10 first time starters last year.
But honestly Catholic is an offensive team this year and that will be what wins them this game. I see Cath's defense making a couple more stops than Bells thus

[Rebel55]

In 2007 LexCath's D held opponents to 11.5 points per game on the way to a state championship. That's pretty good.
In 2008 they gave up 20 points per game over 13 games which isn't that bad
In 2009 they game up 21 ppg over 13 games which again isn't terrible.
Last season it was 31 ppg which is terrible but they were starting 5 sophomores and 10 first time starters last year.
But honestly Catholic is an offensive team this year and that will be what wins them this game. I see Cath's defense making a couple more stops than Bells thus

I agree. I just do not see too many teams that will outscore the Knights this season. With the likes of Trinity, St. X, and Lone Oak not on the schdule I see that 31 ppg dropping this year.

[RebelPride12]

I agree. I just do not see too many teams that will outscore the Knights this season. With the likes of Trinity, St. X, and Lone Oak not on the schdule I see that 31 ppg dropping this year.

That's another good point concerning LexCath's defense. They played the toughest schedule in the state last year with a boatload of sophomores.

[BellCoBobcats09]

Bell Co I heard got a transfer from Oklahoma who moved here. Pretty darn good athlete from what I've been hearing.

[wildcats fan]

bell by a touchdown

[Jack Lambert]

Over the last 4 games against Boyle Co. Lex Cath's defense has give up an averege of 456 yds per game on defense.342 yds per game rushing,114 yds per game passing.this is what i'm going by when i say thier defense isn't very good and hasn't been for a while.I haven't looked at what they have done against other teams they have played over the last couple of seasons.on the other hand looking at thier rushing stats against Boyle over the last 4 games thier running game has been poor.again this is what i base my opinions on,thier stats against Boyle co.i could care less what they do against anyone else.any old ball coach that knows the game will tell you DEFENSE wins championships,not offense.ill take a dominant defensive team over a dominant offenseive team anyday.i dont think Bell will blow Lex cath out,but i do believe they will win.

[RebelPride12]

Over the last 4 games against Boyle Co. Lex Cath's defense has give up an averege of 456 yds per game on defense.342 yds per game rushing,114 yds per game passing.this is what i'm going by when i say thier defense isn't very good and hasn't been for a while.I haven't looked at what they have done against other teams they have played over the last couple of seasons.on the other hand looking at thier rushing stats against Boyle over the last 4 games thier running game has been poor.again this is what i base my opinions on,thier stats against Boyle co.i could care less what they do against anyone else.any old ball coach that knows the game will tell you DEFENSE wins championships,not offense.ill take a dominant defensive team over a dominant offenseive team anyday.i dont think Bell will blow Lex cath out,but i do believe they will win.

Which was my previous point. Boyle has been better than LexCath for the last 3 years. We have no idea what LexCath would have done against Bell County because LexCath couldn't make it that far.:1: For all we know LexCath may have beaten Bell. I don't think LexCath will need a dominant defense to defeat Bell County this year. Bend....but don't break. LexCath will score when they have the ball. You know as well as I do, it doesn't matter how long Bell has the ball or how far they drive down the field if they aren't getting 7 points each time. We have seen Bell keep the ball away from Boyle and still not score.. LexCath will score. Will Bell?

[BellCoBobcats09]

Turnovers could be a huge factor is this game. I think we had 4 or 5 against Boyle Co last year that killed us.

[smashmouth]

Transfer from Oklahoma? Any truth to that and who is the kid?