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Bardo out for the season "RUMOR"
#31
POCO HISTORY #70 Wrote:its an amazing achievment if they have already had an MRI and scheduled a surgery.....i beleive this is word of mouth...maybe the trainer believes he will need tommy john surgery and that he will be out for the season....but i seriously doubt they have already had an MRI and scheduled tommy john surgery

I questioned it myself and even closed the thread because I wanted to see more evidence. I trust the source who corroborated, thus opened the thread back up for comment.
#32
Out for Dixie. Back after the bye-week. That's the latest.:dontthink
Time will tell.:eyeroll:
#33
Given that all this has happened over one weekend and the injury is not an urgent issue medically, I suspect that nothing has actually been determined regarding Bardo's status until he meets with an orthopedist on Monday.

Stardust, you had better hope that your source is correct because allowing this kind of story about a kid who's playing for a college scholarship to continue is dangerous business... if college scouts are reading this story and it ends up not being correct, then you may have just unfairly hurt the kid's chances of playing college football.

Hope you have a good attorney. His family may not easily let this go if it proves untrue and the kid can still play.
#34
Yeah I agree. I hope the info put on here is correct. If he is indeed coming back in two weeks, that's some pretty irresponsible posting on here.
#35
lol, any college coach who bases his decision on a player based of a message board full of the people I know consume this and other boards are fools anyways. Stardust has nothing to be worried about, no legal action can be taken all because of speculation. If that were true than everyone who has said anything about the injury is really in for it! On top of it, Bardo and his family don't seem like the type.

As for all of you doubting how quickly knowledge of this type of injury can occur, you're wrong. Specialists can meet on weekends, take a look at the injury, do the MRI (which is a gruesome needle into the elbow) and tell you that day whether you'll need the surgery.) I know this all first hand, and it all stemmed from hyperextension. Now, I'm not saying that this means it is true, especially knowing that Bardo apparently was at UK for the FL game, but it is definitely possible to know if surgery is needed, or if the arm is damaged to the point where he is unable to throw and use the full range of motion. Some people choose not to have Tommy John Surgery because you still can use your arm and it feels normal in daily activity, but just in certain situations such as football or particularly in pitchers it affects them. If they choose not to have the surgery..they hang up their cleats.

Without a doubt it seems like the injury is more serious than just a day off, or else there would not be as much word and "hush hush" as there is.

I'd also assume we'll see Collinsworth is some semblance of the wildcat. If not..Towles will be fine, but this definitely makes their road to the state championship more difficult. Bardo is hard to replace. Get well soon...
#36
drizzy Wrote:lol, any college coach who bases his decision on a player based of a message board full of the people I know consume this and other boards are fools anyways. Stardust has nothing to be worried about, no legal action can be taken all because of speculation. If that were true than everyone who has said anything about the injury is really in for it! On top of it, Bardo and his family don't seem like the type.

As for all of you doubting how quickly knowledge of this type of injury can occur, you're wrong. Specialists can meet on weekends, take a look at the injury, do the MRI (which is a gruesome needle into the elbow) and tell you that day whether you'll need the surgery.) I know this all first hand, and it all stemmed from hyperextension. Now, I'm not saying that this means it is true, especially knowing that Bardo apparently was at UK for the FL game, but it is definitely possible to know if surgery is needed, or if the arm is damaged to the point where he is unable to throw and use the full range of motion. Some people choose not to have Tommy John Surgery because you still can use your arm and it feels normal in daily activity, but just in certain situations such as football or particularly in pitchers it affects them. If they choose not to have the surgery..they hang up their cleats.

Without a doubt it seems like the injury is more serious than just a day off, or else there would not be as much word and "hush hush" as there is.

I'd also assume we'll see Collinsworth is some semblance of the wildcat. If not..Towles will be fine, but this definitely makes their road to the state championship more difficult. Bardo is hard to replace. Get well soon...

Good post Drizzy. I do believe college coaches do read boards but they certainly do not base their decisions on them. To say that someone can get sued for posting information on a message board is absolutely absurd. Good luck figuring out who everyone is and where they live and having it hold up in court. :lmao:

I agree that something shouldnt be posted without it being a fact but I have confidence in knowing atleast one of the posters in this situation and I am 100% confident this is accurate information. Like you said DRizzy....it doesnt mean he has to have the surgery so we will just have to wait and see.
#37
qryche11 Wrote:Good post Drizzy. I do believe college coaches do read boards but they certainly do not base their decisions on them. To say that someone can get sued for posting information on a message board is absolutely absurd. Good luck figuring out who everyone is and where they live and having it hold up in court. :lmao:

I agree that something shouldnt be posted without it being a fact but I have confidence in knowing atleast one of the posters in this situation and I am 100% confident this is accurate information. Like you said DRizzy....it doesnt mean he has to have the surgery so we will just have to wait and see.

qryche, it's very easy for the courts to determine the identity of posters on this and every other message board: they get an injunction compelling the site owners to disclose the true identity of a poster.


Bardo will return to action this year. It may not be at qb, but he'll be back after a couple of weeks rehab and recovery. Towles will do a great job filling in at the qb spot. Once he gets some reps with the starting receivers and running backs, he'll be fine; actually better than fine. I've spoke to some of th other starters and they feel very confident that Towles will be able to get the job done filling in for Bardo.
#38
jbwill2 Wrote:Given that all this has happened over one weekend and the injury is not an urgent issue medically, I suspect that nothing has actually been determined regarding Bardo's status until he meets with an orthopedist on Monday.

Stardust, you had better hope that your source is correct because allowing this kind of story about a kid who's playing for a college scholarship to continue is dangerous business... if college scouts are reading this story and it ends up not being correct, then you may have just unfairly hurt the kid's chances of playing college football.

Hope you have a good attorney. His family may not easily let this go if it proves untrue and the kid can still play.

I'm hardly worried my friend.
#39
qryche11 Wrote:Good post Drizzy. To say that someone can get sued for posting information on a message board is absolutely absurd. Good luck figuring out who everyone is and where they live and having it hold up in court.
What??? The person I directed my comment at is not some random poster but a BGR moderator... are you trying to tell me that the operators of this site are not responsible for the content posted???

And as far as the scouting issue goes, there are thousands of kids trying to get noticed by college scouts, and I think it's fair to say that if there are unsubstantiated reports about a player being lost for the rest of the season posted on a reputable website such as BGR, it's not going to help the kid's prospects.

Perhaps all the Highlands fans on this site and other sites should not be speculating on Bardo's health status until either Will Bardo, his family or Coach Mueller comes out and says something... reports from any other sources or "off the record" stuff are not helpful to anyone, especially to Will Bardo!

The title of this thread is "Bardo out for the season." It will be interesting to see what BGR and/or the involved posters will have to say about the situation if Bardo does in fact return this season.
#40
charlie22 Wrote:qryche, it's very easy for the courts to determine the identity of posters on this and every other message board: they get an injunction compelling the site owners to disclose the true identity of a poster.


Bardo will return to action this year. It may not be at qb, but he'll be back after a couple of weeks rehab and recovery. Towles will do a great job filling in at the qb spot. Once he gets some reps with the starting receivers and running backs, he'll be fine; actually better than fine. I've spoke to some of th other starters and they feel very confident that Towles will be able to get the job done filling in for Bardo.

I guess man, but anybody can sign up for a site like this and put ficticious information in regards to who they are and such. Show me a law that states its a violation to post speculative information. If you can show it to me I will believe it.

Like I said, I dont agree with posting inaccurate information because these are just kids. I think many Highlands fans are on the edge of their seat and anxious to find out because we are all concerned. Bardo is a phenomenal athlete and we are all hoping he returns in some fashion.
#41
jbwill2 Wrote:What??? The person I directed my comment at is not some random poster but a BGR moderator... are you trying to tell me that the operators of this site are not responsible for the content posted???

And as far as the scouting issue goes, there are thousands of kids trying to get noticed by college scouts, and I think it's fair to say that if there are unsubstantiated reports about a player being lost for the rest of the season posted on a reputable website such as BGR, it's not going to help the kid's prospects.

Perhaps all the Highlands fans on this site and other sites should not be speculating on Bardo's health status until either Will Bardo, his family or Coach Mueller comes out and says something... reports from any other sources or "off the record" stuff are not helpful to anyone, especially to Will Bardo!

The title of this thread is "Bardo out for the season." It will be interesting to see what BGR and/or the involved posters will have to say about the situation if Bardo does in fact return this season.

BTW I am not the one who started the thread and only responded to it and gave my two cents on how I feel if he is out for the season. I hope this is all wasted typing to be quite honest.

As far as college coaches, they certainly might read the information on boards but if they are interested in a kid and read something like this I am sure they would pick up the phone and call to confirm if its a legit school.

As far as what we will say, I can go ahead and tell you right now.

We are very very very excited to learn that he is back in the lineup on some fashion because he is a very very very good football player. :rockon:
#42
qryche11 Wrote:I guess man, but anybody can sign up for a site like this and put ficticious information in regards to who they are and such. Show me a law that states its a violation to post speculative information. If you can show it to me I will believe it.

Like I said, I dont agree with posting inaccurate information because these are just kids. I think many Highlands fans are on the edge of their seat and anxious to find out because we are all concerned. Bardo is a phenomenal athlete and we are all hoping he returns in some fashion.

The law is called defamation. The fact is you can't just go around stating or publishing false information about people. Since you are helping out with that N. Ky sports blog, you may want to do a little googling of defamation, libel and slander. Good info to know.

Not that I think any thing is going to happen legally because of this thread. It won't. Not sure any thing here is quite actionable, but even if it was, the Bardos are that type of people. jbwill's point was that people should not speculate on what they think may happen and unless they heard if from John or Carolyn and were given permission by them to post it on here, they should keep the information to themselves. If you're concerned about Will, pick up the phone and call John.
#43
charlie22 Wrote:The law is called defamation. The fact is you can't just go around stating or publishing false information about people. Since you are helping out with that N. Ky sports blog, you may want to do a little googling of defamation, libel and slander. Good info to know.

Not that I think any thing is going to happen legally because of this thread. It won't. Not sure any thing here is quite actionable, but even if it was, the Bardos are that type of people. jbwill's point was that people should not speculate on what they think may happen and unless they heard if from John or Carolyn and were given permission by them to post it on here, they should keep the information to themselves. If you're concerned about Will, pick up the phone and call John.

The bolded sentence was supposed to read: Not sure any thing here is quite actionable, but even if it was, the Bardos are not that type of people.
#44
POCO HISTORY #70 Wrote:its an amazing achievment if they have already had an MRI and scheduled a surgery.....i beleive this is word of mouth...maybe the trainer believes he will need tommy john surgery and that he will be out for the season....but i seriously doubt they have already had an MRI and scheduled tommy john surgery

I have a son that is a college pitcher, and we were able to find out for sure his status after an injury in a little less than 4 hours. This included a visit to Dr. Ireland's office, getting an MRI performed, and a return visit to Dr. Irelands office with a subsequent review of the MRI and her determination. It's very possible.
#45
So what is the news? Is he playing or not?
#46
WildCard Wrote:So what is the news? Is he playing or not?

My guess is that the answer to that question will be definitively known the night of the game and not before then. There are all kinds of good reasons not to disclose who is going to be playing qb any early than is absolutely necessary. Patience is a virtue. :biggrin:
#47
Bardo injury update … Posted by rernst September 28th, 2009, 3:56 pm Read Comments(1)RecommendThere still is no timetable for the return of Highlands senior quarterback Will Bardo, who left Friday’s win over St. Xavier with a hyperextended elbow, according to his father John Bardo.

Bardo, who left the game in the fourth quarter after leading the Bluebirds in rushing, should have a better idea sometime tonight John said via e-mail.

The injury is in his left (throwing) elbow.

Highlands sophomore Patrick Towles played quarterback in Bardo’s absence.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/preps/2009/0...ry-update/
#48
This isn't the NFL. Teams do not have to post injury information or advise the other team who will be playing and what position. HHS will make the other teams prepare for all sorts of possibilities and keep them guessing. That's just good football at the high school level.
#49
:football: Main thing is I wish this young man & his team mates the very best!
#50
charlie22 Wrote:The law is called defamation. The fact is you can't just go around stating or publishing false information about people. Since you are helping out with that N. Ky sports blog, you may want to do a little googling of defamation, libel and slander. Good info to know.

Not that I think any thing is going to happen legally because of this thread. It won't. Not sure any thing here is quite actionable, but even if it was, the Bardos are that type of people. jbwill's point was that people should not speculate on what they think may happen and unless they heard if from John or Carolyn and were given permission by them to post it on here, they should keep the information to themselves. If you're concerned about Will, pick up the phone and call John.

I know what defamation is but I just dont think this thread warrants anything like that and like I said before, I didnt start the thread or post anything I know nothing about.

I certainly havent published anything on the sportsblog either and nothing gets posted on there unless it is factual and interviews have been conducted.

These message boards are just a bunch of emotional banter for the most part but I do agree that speculation is not good.
#51
Mr.Kimball Wrote:I have a son that is a college pitcher, and we were able to find out for sure his status after an injury in a little less than 4 hours. This included a visit to Dr. Ireland's office, getting an MRI performed, and a return visit to Dr. Irelands office with a subsequent review of the MRI and her determination. It's very possible.

You are very right, sir. This is almost exactly how it went down with my situation.
#52
qryche11 Wrote:I know what defamation is but I just dont think this thread warrants anything like that and like I said before, I didnt start the thread or post anything I know nothing about.

I certainly havent published anything on the sportsblog either and nothing gets posted on there unless it is factual and interviews have been conducted.

These message boards are just a bunch of emotional banter for the most part but I do agree that speculation is not good.

Lol riiiiight... Like all the coach interviews that were on there.:blabbermo
#53
qryche11 Wrote:Good post Drizzy. I do believe college coaches do read boards but they certainly do not base their decisions on them. To say that someone can get sued for posting information on a message board is absolutely absurd. Good luck figuring out who everyone is and where they live and having it hold up in court. :lmao:

I agree that something shouldnt be posted without it being a fact but I have confidence in knowing atleast one of the posters in this situation and I am 100% confident this is accurate information. Like you said DRizzy....it doesnt mean he has to have the surgery so we will just have to wait and see.

Lol you can NOT be serious... You think it's hard to figure out who you are and where you live? Goldust can do that this very second. Any Admin on any site can see your IP address. How do you think we know when people are posting under multiple names?!
#54
My source is legit. Having been told the status of Bardo, I assumed it was public knowledge. No harm intended.... No apologies either!
#55
nkysportsblog Wrote:Lol you can NOT be serious... You think it's hard to figure out who you are and where you live? Goldust can do that this very second. Any Admin on any site can see your IP address. How do you think we know when people are posting under multiple names?!

I guess I am not a technical guru like you NKYsportsblog.

As far as anything I have posted on the blog, it is all factual. We can discuss that if you would like...I would be glad to give you my address. :biggrin:
#56
qryche11 Wrote:I guess I am not a technical guru like you NKYsportsblog.

As far as anything I have posted on the blog, it is all factual. We can discuss that if you would like...I would be glad to give you my address. :biggrin:

I don't think he is talking about your contributions.
#57
I was talking about the blog as a whole. I don't know who's posting because it's tough to keep all the online identities straight, but there's no reason to discuss them. They've been discussed before.
#58
Regardless of whether or not they can track who you are on here or not, which they can (although you can always just give a false name, sign up from the library, etc), it is still just silly for people to threaten to watch out lol. All the hush hush and secret crap just makes it clear there is something they don't want people to know, which means its likely this is a very true scenario, or something similiar to it. I get all the mind games and not wanting your opponent to know what you have in your pocket...but c'mon.
#59
nkysportsblog Wrote:I was talking about the blog as a whole. I don't know who's posting because it's tough to keep all the online identities straight, but there's no reason to discuss them. They've been discussed before.

drizzy Wrote:Regardless of whether or not they can track who you are on here or not, which they can (although you can always just give a false name, sign up from the library, etc), it is still just silly for people to threaten to watch out lol. All the hush hush and secret crap just makes it clear there is something they don't want people to know, which means its likely this is a very true scenario, or something similiar to it. I get all the mind games and not wanting your opponent to know what you have in your pocket...but c'mon.

Guy's, keep it on the focus of the thread. This has gone way astray, no one is concerned about anything other than the point of the thread! Let's Move On!
#60
So what's the latest, is Bardo out for the season?

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