[Wanna-be]

From The Reformed Sports Project
If you play D1 you're a stud
If you play D2 you're a stud
If you play D3 you're a stud
If you play NAIA you're a stud
If you play at a JUCO you're a stud.
ONLY 7% OF HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES
become college athletes, it doesn't matter
what level you're at. Be proud, BE GRATEFUL!!

Idk if you guys understand the percentage of athletes that play next level... programs ain't producing a bunch of college athletes because a bunch of athletes don't exist.

Don’t take backwater now that Medusa has laid the facts out for you and you’ve saw that Hoskins is no better than anyone you’ve mentioned and that he’s had all his talent bought and paid for.

[Ballstothewall]

From The Reformed Sports Project
If you play D1 you're a stud
If you play D2 you're a stud
If you play D3 you're a stud
If you play NAIA you're a stud
If you play at a JUCO you're a stud.
ONLY 7% OF HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES
become college athletes, it doesn't matter
what level you're at. Be proud, BE GRATEFUL!!

Idk if you guys understand the percentage of athletes that play next level... programs ain't producing a bunch of college athletes because a bunch of athletes don't exist.

Thats what I was trying to say its really hard for kids to get college offers to play ball especially after the covid year an transfer portal I've heard parents say d1 or bust if my grandson is fortunate enough to play college ball idc what division it is long as its paid for!

Absolutely! It's a huge accomplishment and not easy to achieve!!

[Medusa]

Night was a Perry kid or Buckhorn I think. How did he do at Ky Christian? I know he went there but haven’t heard any thing about him playing. For some odd reason, kids that come up threw certain competitive systems in the 14th cant and just can’t for nothing play a year or two of college ball, even when they get it paid for. What do the high school coaches prepare them for? It’s really like starting over again. Just don’t think the HS coaches here talk to the kids realistically and tell them it’s a gonna be a struggle and it will be hard. Quit way to easily. Maybe they don’t have to earn anything in HS and wait till college then it’s to late.

[Ballstothewall]

Unfortunately out of the 7% that actually make it to the next level even fewer can last. That's true nationally... not just in the 14th, or the mountains, or even KY. It's just really hard. Also why it's such a huge accomplishment to make it there to start with and be able to stay!

[Medusa]

I know and understand kids should play for the love of the game but isn’t getting a basketball scholarship the main goal of a serious player? It’s amazing the amount of time some of these kids and coaches put in. Nothing at all against ALC or any college. Why put in all that time to just drop it cold turkey when you graduate HS. Especially when you have a fully paid 4/5 years of college for playing basketball. And playing ball isn’t exactly work. Get a good chuckle when they say putting work in. Work isn’t playing ball.

[Ballstothewall]

I agree. Once a kid gets a scholarship, they should stay and get that free education. But a lot of these kids when they there, are getting outworked for playing time and they aren't the best player on the team like they were in high school maybe, and they can't handle that. So they just come home. But the competition at the college level, even in just practice, is extremely hard, and sometimes on a level that they might not be used to.

[Wanna-be]

I’d saw some players talked about earlier so this is in no means throwing shade at them but it’s to ask a question. Didn’t it get proven that while coaching at buckhorn that Cory Hoskins got caught padding stats for some players there?

[Ballstothewall]

Oh I don't know. I hadn't heard that?

[Wanna-be]

Oh I don't know.  I hadn't heard that?

Sure you hadn’t…..

[Medusa]

I couldn’t see Honest Corey doing such a thing honestly.

[Bluegrassbredbobcat]

PCC is loaded this year played them this summer and it was a rough one shooters everywhere and a guy in jacket that can get to rim 
Shannon has them running nice

[Wanna-be]

PCC is loaded this year played them this summer and it was a rough one shooters everywhere and a guy in jacket that can get to rim 
Shannon has them running nice

Breathitt is awful now that they’re having to live life after Sperry. I wouldn’t use a summer game against breathitt as a measuring stick for anything.

[4 Quarters]

Night was a Perry kid or Buckhorn I think.  How did he do at Ky Christian?  I know he went there but haven’t heard any thing about him playing.  For some odd reason, kids that come up threw certain competitive systems in the 14th cant and just can’t for nothing play a year or two of college ball, even when they get it paid for.  What do the high school coaches prepare them for?  It’s really like starting over again.  Just don’t think the HS coaches here talk to the kids realistically and tell them it’s a gonna be a struggle and it will be hard.  Quit way to easily.  Maybe they don’t have to earn anything in HS and wait till college then it’s to late.

Don't fault the coaches when Mommy and Daddy are in the other ear telling the kid how great he is.

[Wanna-be]

Night was a Perry kid or Buckhorn I think.  How did he do at Ky Christian?  I know he went there but haven’t heard any thing about him playing.  For some odd reason, kids that come up threw certain competitive systems in the 14th cant and just can’t for nothing play a year or two of college ball, even when they get it paid for.  What do the high school coaches prepare them for?  It’s really like starting over again.  Just don’t think the HS coaches here talk to the kids realistically and tell them it’s a gonna be a struggle and it will be hard.  Quit way to easily.  Maybe they don’t have to earn anything in HS and wait till college then it’s to late.

Don't fault the coaches when Mommy and Daddy are in the other ear telling the kid how great he is.

Coach was step dad I believe. You’re kind of contradicting yourself here.

[catsrule]

PCC is loaded this year played them this summer and it was a rough one shooters everywhere and a guy in jacket that can get to rim 
Shannon has them running nice

Breathitt is awful now that they’re having to live life after Sperry. I wouldn’t use a summer game against breathitt as a measuring stick for anything.

Speaking of Sperry, what happened with the school he signed with?    Did he ever sign with another?

[Medusa]

Perry could surprise me but I just don’t think there’s enough basketballs for this team. I think Hazard will be a little better just looking at personel. Time will tell.

[Ballstothewall]

Didn't look like an issue with Perry in the Summer, they were putting up 80 on GRC and all the kids were involved...the Pace Hoskins is gonna play they're all gonna get shots. No one else can really play that type of game with Perry. Hazard's advantage will be size and physicality so they'll have to try and slow it down and get all the boards, but that probably takes the ball out of their best 2 players' hands (which they're not gonna stand for). Perry just has more weapons and is a match-up problem. Unless you can get the game in the 40s??

Also losing Gibson hurts a lot.

[4 Quarters]

PCC is loaded this year played them this summer and it was a rough one shooters everywhere and a guy in jacket that can get to rim 
Shannon has them running nice

Breathitt is awful now that they’re having to live life after Sperry. I wouldn’t use a summer game against breathitt as a measuring stick for anything.

Speaking of Sperry, what happened with the school he signed with?    Did he ever sign with another?

He decommitted from IU Indy, because of a coaching change.  Looks to be still unsigned.

[Medusa]

Didn't look like an issue with Perry in the Summer, they were putting up 80 on GRC and all the kids were involved...the Pace Hoskins is gonna play they're all gonna get shots. No one else can really play that type of game with Perry.  Hazard's advantage will be size and physicality so they'll have to try and slow it down and get all the boards, but that probably takes the ball out of their best 2 players' hands (which they're not gonna stand for). Perry just has more weapons and is a match-up problem. Unless you can get the game in the 40s??

Also losing Gibson hurts a lot.

More weapons?  If you consider jacking up 3s and goal sucking then maybe yeah.  They are very small and from what I have saw don’t like physical play.   Have one physical kid on the team and he will have to survive football season injury free.  Perry has a good team I admit but not really a true favorite in my opinion.

[Varsityclub2004]

Hoskins is a hell of a coach.  He’s competitive every year no matter his talent level.  I’m curious to see  Hoskins, Honeycutt and Huff coach against each other this season dealing with new kids and/or in different environments.  A lot will be revealed about who can build and bond a team. The talent level is very close so the best coach will have a huge advantage this season.

100% facts

[Wanna-be]

Didn't look like an issue with Perry in the Summer, they were putting up 80 on GRC and all the kids were involved...the Pace Hoskins is gonna play they're all gonna get shots. No one else can really play that type of game with Perry.  Hazard's advantage will be size and physicality so they'll have to try and slow it down and get all the boards, but that probably takes the ball out of their best 2 players' hands (which they're not gonna stand for). Perry just has more weapons and is a match-up problem. Unless you can get the game in the 40s??

Also losing Gibson hurts a lot.

Making summer ball comparisons is ridiculous. Everyone knows it. Wait till they get the defense laid on them in the season and we’ll see how it looks. Until then enjoy your summer ball world championship.

[Ballstothewall]

Combs, Hacker, Prater are all 6"3... Josh Miller 6'4 Sumner 6'2... not sure I'd call that small??? Especially in the 14th region. Landon Miller is really the only smaller kid that'll play? Combs,Hacker,Sumner,J.Miller and Tyler Robinson are considered physical players in the region (by the coaches that is) and if anyone thinks they'll see better defense in the 14th region lol??? I really don't know how to respond to that one... Huff is gonna play that match up zone he's in love with and most of the other teams will also play some sort of zone. I mean it's what makes the 14th what it is ? but like you say only time will tell.

[Medusa]

Combs is 6’1
Miller 6’1
Sumner 6’0
Prater 6’2 
Robinson 5’9
Miller 5’8
Hacker 6’1

[WaterBoy15thregion]

Night was a Perry kid or Buckhorn I think.  How did he do at Ky Christian?  I know he went there but haven’t heard any thing about him playing.  For some odd reason, kids that come up threw certain competitive systems in the 14th cant and just can’t for nothing play a year or two of college ball, even when they get it paid for.  What do the high school coaches prepare them for?  It’s really like starting over again.  Just don’t think the HS coaches here talk to the kids realistically and tell them it’s a gonna be a struggle and it will be hard.  Quit way to easily.  Maybe they don’t have to earn anything in HS and wait till college then it’s to late.

How long did Noah Back play? And Knight? And McGuire from Knott? What about Sperry? He’s not even going anywhere as of now is he? What about Napier from Knott? I think he actually might still be playing. Noah Caudill at Alice Lloyd? Did he finish playing all 4 years? It seems none of the kids are finishing. But why?

[Ballstothewall]

Combs is 6’1
Miller 6’1
Sumner 6’0
Prater 6’2 
Robinson 5’9
Miller 5’8
Hacker 6’1

Is this your wish or your hope??? I'm sorry but that's just not true.  Add about 2 inches to every height u listed.

[Medusa]

No I don’t care at all. Size doesn’t mean a lot if you do things the right way. Those boys are all really good ball players but they are lucky to be as tall as I listed them.

[Bigbluewarehouse]

From the way its looking sperry aint going anywhere to play ball an if you are judging Hoskins based on his players not playing long in college or not going then what does this say about honeycutt! From what I've heard sperry has a lot of foolishness on his mind an none of it involves being committed to the amount of practice an work it takes at the college level an for a kid that barely showed up to school I doubt knowing he will have to actually attend an pass classes on his own not just be passed cause he sperry! I think that hurts a lot of athletes in all regions I know several schools that help the good players out to keep them eligible to play an they may be helping their schools win titles but they are doing a huge disservice to the kid!

[Ballstothewall]

No I don’t care at all.  Size doesn’t mean a lot if you do things the right way.  Those boys are all really good ball players but they are lucky to be as tall as I listed them.

Nah I agree with what you was saying originally about size.  In the world of basketball height is absolutely a big deal.  Having been around those kids this summer, and being 6'2" myself, the only kids that was shorter than me was Tyler Robinson and Landon Miller. Maybe Mason Sumner but it's close.  We're about the same size. But all those other kids had at least an inch on me.

[Wanna-be]

Combs, Hacker, Prater are all 6"3... Josh Miller 6'4 Sumner 6'2... not sure I'd call that small??? Especially in the 14th region. Landon Miller is really the only smaller kid that'll play? Combs,Hacker,Sumner,J.Miller and Tyler Robinson are considered physical players in the region (by the coaches that is) and if anyone thinks they'll see better defense in the 14th region lol??? I really don't know how to respond to that one... Huff is gonna play that match up zone he's in love with and most of the other teams will also play some sort of zone. I mean it's what makes the 14th what it is ? but like you say only time will tell.

Combs plays no defense. Hard to be called physical when that’s the case. Hacker is the same way. Those two are all offense and that’s all they want to play. Sumner is probably the best teammate on the team but is a touch slow on defense but he does make the attempt which is more than I can say for the first two. J. Miller has no high school experience to be considered anything. He’s no longer going to be that big kid amongst 6th grade 11 years olds so we’ll see how that translates. Robinson does play hard but gets himself in a lot of foul trouble. I’m not sure what coaches you talk to but I’d try to get me information from other ones. Just sayin. They’re all pretty good players but have alot to work on. The first being defense.

[MountainProud]

Can Hazard defend Perry’s speed, shooters and depth for 32 minutes?