[TidesHoss32]

I think we are on the same page :biggrin:

I'm not questioning that the allegation is accurate, but I am seriously questioning Big Ben's descision making. I can't excuse him for being a <30 year-old for putting himself in these kid of predicaments. He just went through this same crap last year. He's not smart enough to learn from that.

TH32, if you see a pot of boiling water and you stick your hand in it, then you know you did something pretty stupid. Lesson is, you won't do that again. But if you are dumb enough to go back to the kitchen, see that pot of boiling water and put your hand in it again, even your brother will say you are stupid :biggrin:

Hey, guys make mistakes, but learn from the last one and avoid those incidents again. You have read all the corroborated facts. We know that he had a private party. We know that his posse was recruiting girls, no guys allowed is what the guard at the door was told, and we are going to say this was just a dumb 30 year-old mistake????? He's already put his hand in the boling water once, why put yourself in the situation to do it again?

Well, I DO wish he would stop going to those clubs. I agree, and I do see your point about him putting himself in these situations. The only thing Im saying is that I DONT think he raped either of these girls. The only difference is that this girl done her homework before she made her allegations..which will be proven false