[Coach_Owens87]

Apparently the reclaimation that you're looking at was either mined prior to 1977 when there was no reclaimation to speak of or a mine site that went into bond forfiture, but I'm sure with you knowledge of mining you know the difference.

If your as you want me so say anti-mtr and you want to stop the use of valley fills and sediment ponds, then my friend you are ANTI-COAL, because as you know underground mines cannot operate without valley fills or sediment ponds, but once again you probably allready know this.

Yes mining companies are concerned with soil erosion, as any environmentalist should be
and that is why we plant grass as soon as possible and also plant trees on a later date.

Yes Coal companies are out to make a profit just like any other business operating today, can you name any business that is not out to make a profit? But as we've debated before to say they don't care about anything but profit and what ever they have to destroy is fair game is just flat out ridiculous and you know it.

As far as me mentioning the same thing, why don't you get some new material.

P.S. FYI I named my mule "ole 87"

Sorry to bust into the fantasy world you live in where coal companies do such a great job reclaiming but this just isn't true. The mining sites I refer to are not sites created prior to 1977, as I stated many previous times one visit to google earth, or microsofts satellite image program called terra-server, which offer up to date, high quality satellite images, and you can get a up close view of all the mining sites going on at the moment, and you can see all the "reclaimed sites" you say are so great. Google is offering a program with up to date stats on the mass of land mined, the date the operation started, the company mining, and when the job is done they show images of the reclamation process, so everyone can now have an eyewitness view of reclamation. *Spoiler* Nothing is there, just grass.

The point I made about coal companies not caring what the cost is for thier profit is not ridiculous, here is one example. In Inman Virginia Jeremy Davidson, 3 years of age, was killed by a rock that came from a strip job above his home. A couple of dozers where working and pushed the rock over the hill, which tore through his home. The company called the accident a "act of god". They were fined $15,000, they later appealed the fine. If that isnt heartless I dont know what is. I can give you more of these stories that you wont hear at any coal convention, becuase those things are minor compared to the progress of man.

I know that you dont believe what I say, thats why I keep telling you to go look at google earth, maybe you just choose not becuase you know im right? just a thought.

Undergound mining Again you just feed me more crap from the mining companies, I read an article today stating the same thing, that undergound mining is not possible without SOME valley fills, I would rather have that going on while we search for new energy sources, than sit around and watch mountains being blown away. This may sound horrible, and is a little off subject, but a lot of people are probably going to get a little richer due to the accident in Utah, now than can use propaganda and say Underground mining is dangerous, we need to blast off mountains.

And I do offer new material, every time we debate I offer it, but all you can give is meaningless stats, on how much profit is made. I dont care about that, im not a pro-business person as you seem to be. I get my materail from studying both points of view, you only get your info from the people who line your wallet.

Horse Racing I feel honored to have a mule named after me. IF only it can give you as hard of a time as I do then it has lived a good life.