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03-29-2025, 04:34 PM
(03-27-2025, 01:04 PM)ThShogun Wrote:Thank You and Hoot for your continued service to our country, not sure either of you hear that as much as you should…(03-27-2025, 12:48 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(03-27-2025, 11:26 AM)jetpilot Wrote:(03-27-2025, 11:20 AM)Shogun Wrote:(03-27-2025, 10:39 AM)jetpilot Wrote: It's now gone from war plans to not war plans but classified, from classified to not classified but sensitive, now to controlled unclassified whatever the hell that is. It's not a nothing burger but it is time to learn from it and move on. But of course the Dems won't because it's all they got; they can't talk about their policies because the vast majority of the population hates them.
What was discussed was definitely "war plans" and should have been classified, probably to a secret level. Controlled Unclassified Information is just information that has not been classified but still must be protected. The fact that senior officials in our government use the Signal app for communication would technically be Controlled Unclassified Information because adversaries could use that information to infiltrate state discussions. "War plans" is just what the media is throwing out because that's basically what they were and I guess it sounds sexier than operations briefings. Classified is what they should have been, and then there are levels to classification based on the potential for damage caused to equipment, personnel, or operations. The fact that senior US officials use the signal app for communication is, in my opinion, not a big deal, but it all comes down to the information being shared on there. Yes it is encrypted and the messages on it are not stored anywhere and eventually deleted (which is a completely separate, potential FOIA issue), but it is not US government controlled and as we have seen over the past few days can easily be compromised by simply adding an approved user to a group.
I stopped reading after that, now we're all the way down to "should have" and "probably to" lol...
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So, let’s me get this straight. The Atlantic released the so-called “war plans” and those “plans” include: No names. No targets. No locations. No units. No routes. No sources. No methods. And no classified information.
Those are some really shitty war plans.
This only proves one thing: Jeff Goldberg has never seen a war plan or an “attack plan” (as he now calls it). Not even close.
As I type this, my team and I are traveling the INDOPACOM region, meeting w/ Commanders (the guys who make REAL “war plans”) and talking to troops.
We will continue to do our job, while the media does what it does best: peddle hoaxes.
(03-27-2025, 11:49 AM)jetpilot Wrote: Also, there has to be a better way to control who is in the chat than "Hey, somebody tag JG."There is a better way. In Teams, you can create a team, and then select its members. Nobody who is not a member can access the chats or documents that the team uploads to the server. As long as you do not discuss classified information or upload classified documents, there is no security issue. Everything is encrypted.
If there is "spillage" of classified material onto devices or servers connected to the NIPR network, then those devices are usually wiped clean and reimaged. The rules are simple, don't open classified documents, don't delete them, and don't copy them. Report the spillage and let someone else deal with with the issue.
I've had spillage reported to me a couple of times and I was very careful to report the incidents up through the chain of command and avoid opening any files containing classified material. It's no fun to lose all your data from your laptop as part of a spillage cleanup.
Yeah I've been in a few briefings where some poor bastard will walk into the SCIF forgetting that their cellphone is in their pocket. By the time they realize, it's too late and their phone gets destroyed. Also had to deal with a troop who thought it was a good idea to plug his cellphone into his NIPR computer's USB port to charge it. 5 minutes later Cyber is calling and everyone in the office's day is ruined.
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Should Hegseth resign? - by SEKYFAN - 03-25-2025, 09:19 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-25-2025, 11:24 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-25-2025, 12:29 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-25-2025, 12:39 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-25-2025, 12:44 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-25-2025, 12:48 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by SEKYFAN - 03-25-2025, 05:14 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Old School Hound - 03-25-2025, 06:04 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 12:26 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by SEKYFAN - 03-26-2025, 03:43 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by plantmanky - 03-25-2025, 07:32 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 01:20 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 01:22 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-26-2025, 10:14 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 07:57 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 09:14 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Old School Hound - 03-26-2025, 04:10 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Old School Hound - 03-26-2025, 07:30 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-26-2025, 07:44 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 08:07 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 08:37 PM
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RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-26-2025, 09:06 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-27-2025, 05:09 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-27-2025, 10:39 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TD Hounds - 03-27-2025, 11:19 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-27-2025, 11:20 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-27-2025, 11:26 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-27-2025, 12:46 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-27-2025, 11:41 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-27-2025, 11:49 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-27-2025, 12:48 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-27-2025, 01:04 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TD Hounds - 03-29-2025, 04:34 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-29-2025, 05:47 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TheRealThing - 03-30-2025, 11:53 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-31-2025, 12:29 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TheRealThing - 03-31-2025, 11:17 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-31-2025, 11:32 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by SEKYFAN - 04-02-2025, 06:07 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TD Hounds - 04-02-2025, 07:25 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-31-2025, 02:58 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-31-2025, 03:51 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-31-2025, 04:58 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-31-2025, 05:50 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-31-2025, 05:56 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 03-31-2025, 06:00 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 03-31-2025, 11:08 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by SEKYFAN - 04-01-2025, 04:55 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 04-01-2025, 05:18 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Shogun - 04-02-2025, 09:42 AM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Old School Hound - 04-01-2025, 05:22 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TheRealThing - 04-01-2025, 10:07 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by SEKYFAN - 04-02-2025, 03:40 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by jetpilot - 04-02-2025, 04:13 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TheRealThing - 5 hours ago
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - 04-02-2025, 07:52 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by TD Hounds - 04-02-2025, 09:25 PM
RE: Should Hegseth resign? - by Hoot Gibson - Yesterday, 07:59 AM
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