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(11-16-2022, 10:57 PM)Fanman Wrote:That’s what I’m saying. It’s not entrapment by definition. Coach called, coached begged without parent asking! He just recorded. Now we can only speculate why he recorded it. Definitely not entrapment. Just by the fact. Nothing illegal about recording a two party call. We all know that(11-16-2022, 10:44 PM)16thregionballer Wrote:I mean, by Websters dictionary, the definition of entrapment is: the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it. So, by calling a coach back and recording it, you probably have an idea that he is about to say something pretty bad, and he will get in trouble for it.(11-16-2022, 10:35 PM)Fanman Wrote:I don’t think it is. I just have listened to the audio. I don’t see the entrapment. So if it was txt back and forth. Still entrapment? I don’t feel either is. If one is then I don’t see how they both are not? This is totally for debate sake.(11-16-2022, 10:24 PM)16thregionballer Wrote:(11-16-2022, 10:18 PM)Fanman Wrote: Was it entrapment? Yes. However, Coach Mays could've chosen to not engage in the conversation, and told him that if he was interested in moving his kid to Ashland, he needs to speak to the Athletic Director or Principal. I know for a fact that is how most schools tell their coaches to handle a phone call like that. He slipped up, and is paying for it. Does NOT make what the parent did right, by any means, but parents don't abide by KHSAA by-laws, coaches do.How was it entrapment? Coach called parent. Begged parent to bring kid to Ashland? I’m missing something.
The parent called him back and didn't have to. And had it recorded to get him in trouble. That's the definition of entrapment. BUT....the coach did EVERYTHING wrong after he answered the phone lol. All I'm saying is, If the coach had handled it correctly he would not be in trouble. Trust me this post isn't a defense of Coach Mays in any way lol.
(11-16-2022, 10:44 PM)16thregionballer Wrote:(11-16-2022, 10:35 PM)Fanman Wrote:I don’t think it is. I just have listened to the audio. I don’t see the entrapment. So if it was txt back and forth. Still entrapment? I don’t feel either is. If one is then I don’t see how they both are not? This is totally for debate sake. I don’t see how that caller lured him in. Especially how do you lure someone in when they called and asked for a kid and the parent never said anything about going or wanting to go? He imo willfully called, asked, offered, begged and was told no by the parent.(11-16-2022, 10:24 PM)16thregionballer Wrote: How was it entrapment? Coach called parent. Begged parent to bring kid to Ashland? I’m missing something.
The parent called him back and didn't have to. And had it recorded to get him in trouble. That's the definition of entrapment. BUT....the coach did EVERYTHING wrong after he answered the phone lol. All I'm saying is, If the coach had handled it correctly he would not be in trouble. Trust me this post isn't a defense of Coach Mays in any way lol.
(11-16-2022, 11:01 PM)16thregionballer Wrote:I do agree with his reputation of being a con(11-16-2022, 10:57 PM)Fanman Wrote:That’s what I’m saying. It’s not entrapment by definition. Coach called, coached begged without parent asking! He just recorded. Now we can only speculate why he recorded it. Definitely not entrapment. Just by the fact. Nothing illegal about recording a two party call. We all know that(11-16-2022, 10:44 PM)16thregionballer Wrote:I mean, by Websters dictionary, the definition of entrapment is: the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it. So, by calling a coach back and recording it, you probably have an idea that he is about to say something pretty bad, and he will get in trouble for it.(11-16-2022, 10:35 PM)Fanman Wrote:I don’t think it is. I just have listened to the audio. I don’t see the entrapment. So if it was txt back and forth. Still entrapment? I don’t feel either is. If one is then I don’t see how they both are not? This is totally for debate sake.(11-16-2022, 10:24 PM)16thregionballer Wrote: How was it entrapment? Coach called parent. Begged parent to bring kid to Ashland? I’m missing something.
The parent called him back and didn't have to. And had it recorded to get him in trouble. That's the definition of entrapment. BUT....the coach did EVERYTHING wrong after he answered the phone lol. All I'm saying is, If the coach had handled it correctly he would not be in trouble. Trust me this post isn't a defense of Coach Mays in any way lol.
(11-16-2022, 10:44 PM)16thregionballer Wrote:(11-16-2022, 10:35 PM)Fanman Wrote: The parent called him back and didn't have to. And had it recorded to get him in trouble. That's the definition of entrapment. BUT....the coach did EVERYTHING wrong after he answered the phone lol. All I'm saying is, If the coach had handled it correctly he would not be in trouble. Trust me this post isn't a defense of Coach Mays in any way lol.I don’t think it is. I just have listened to the audio. I don’t see the entrapment. So if it was txt back and forth. Still entrapment? I don’t feel either is. If one is then I don’t see how they both are not? This is totally for debate sake. I don’t see how that caller lured him in. Especially how do you lure someone in when they called and asked for a kid and the parent never said anything about going or wanting to go? He imo willfully called, asked, offered, begged and was told no by the parent.
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-15-2022, 05:23 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-15-2022, 08:52 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-15-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-15-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 02:18 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-15-2022, 11:49 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-15-2022, 10:01 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 08:33 AM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 11-16-2022, 10:01 AM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-16-2022, 11:20 AM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-17-2022, 06:55 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-17-2022, 01:07 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Ky1976 - 12-07-2022, 09:12 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregioner - 12-07-2022, 09:31 AM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 12-07-2022, 01:27 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Hoot Gibson - 11-16-2022, 06:13 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-16-2022, 06:28 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-16-2022, 06:43 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Vols0528 - 11-16-2022, 07:11 PM
RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by 16thregionballer - 11-16-2022, 08:03 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 10:18 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 10:35 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by Fanman - 11-16-2022, 10:57 PM
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RE: Mays fired from Ashland - by SocratesKy - 11-16-2022, 11:22 PM
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