[The Outsider]

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In addition to paying taxes, do you regularly give money to the Church to help the poor there Outsider?


I'll give you an example and I know this first hand. This town has government sponsored housing for the poor. The government sees to it that their dependents get stimulus checks and income tax returns and much more. When the stimulus comes the tenets of government housing go out and buy stuff like 70" big screens and new XBoxes and etc. Every once in awhile these transients just up and vanish because for whatever reason, they just walk off and leave it all sitting in their apartment. The rules are that everything they leave MUST go into the dumpster. No exceptions. Can't be used by the next tenet, and can't be sold, and can't go home with anybody. It's the dumpster only. Now that's my definition of tax dollar waste. You guys tell about 5 percent of the whole story.

The Outsider  
Yes, I believe in donating to the Church as well as several other charities of my choosing, but i will not judge anyone else who believes differently.

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So, you get what I'm saying then about those on the right who even though they pay taxes through the nose, still go above and beyond to give generously to help the poor. Still you line up with Cardfan and vector to insist more can be done even though God has said and you even quoted this, "the poor you shall ALWAYS have." Always means always but the reason we will always have the poor is because many many people just cannot be motivated to become self sufficient. The drive just is not there. But your contempt for Republicans then is based on what? Wardrobe? Most of them give far more money to the cause than your average Cardfan. I frankly don't get it. The country is strapped for cash to the point where it seems noble in the minds of the left to tax corporations. I mean if we can tax institutions what's next, a marriage tax?

One cannot be a liberal and not look down on or judge those who espouse our traditionally conservative values because liberals say those values are the example of greed. And the plight of the poor then it follows, is not that they are listless or otherwise unmotivated, they are victims of the rich. Does that not fly in the face of what the Lord said about work? Did He guarantee income equality, or did He say it would be hard?  Nor can liberals take the route Pilate took, and just wash their hands of responsibility when they all know their party pushes unfettered abortion and gay rights. We're not accountable to ourselves as Pilate supposed, we are accountable to God.

Not the first one of you will admit what God declared, that man is to work and earn his bread by the sweat of his face. That's not easy and that's not convenient. In fact working for our substance is so burdensome, that we barely get turned around it seems and our children are already gone and the next thing you know we're retiring and the aches and pains of working all those years now dominate our existence. And all too soon, we pass. Life as the Lord has characterized it is like a vapor. You poke your nose out the front door to check how cold it is as you're leaving for work in the morning and you watch that breath of vapor vanish in a second or two, and it's gone. Life is but a vapor.

In saying that,  not all work is particularly glamorous. There are all manner of menial jobs but the pursuit is still noble. Septic tanks have to be drained occasionally, we need mechanics, sanitation workers, the restaurant industry, the motel industry, the list is endless. But every able bodied man should do something. Sitting around waiting on government checks is not honorable for anyone who can work but somehow has decided that kind of thing is beneath him. And that means not everybody will be able to afford a bass boat and a tow vehicle.
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I agree with you on this.  There are way too many people getting a free ride who shouldn't be, and it's getting worse every day.  It's a very fine line trying to identify the people who actually need help and those who are just playing the system, but I believe that we can do better as a Country taking care of the people who do actually need the help.  The gap between the wealthy and the poor is growing day by day and the politicians who run this country for the most part, just don't really seem to care.