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12-28-2020, 01:10 AM
(12-27-2020, 08:31 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:To paraphrase a character from a popular movie, I don't think that word means what you think.(12-24-2020, 12:10 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(12-23-2020, 11:47 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:You are one of the most economically illiterate people that I have ever come across. Blue states have been hit hardest by the pandemic because they elected stupid liberal Democrat governors. People will only tolerate a certain amount of restraints on their liberty. That is why so many liberal politicians like Cuomo, Murphy, Witmer, Pelosi, and others have supported oppressive restrictions on American citizens, only to be caught violating their own rules.(12-23-2020, 11:25 PM)In Hoot Gibson Wrote:(12-23-2020, 11:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: You realize when these people move to these new areas with their wealth and drive up the real estate and everything else the same problem will happen. But let’s pity the people who have wealth and can leave because their taxes are too high.No, tax rates do not automatically soar to New York and California levels because real estate values rise. That is one of the most stupid things that you have posted. But then you posted an even more stupid sentence by suggesting that people should not be able to move when their taxes are too high.
When did Donald Trump do that? More comedy.
You are leaving the absolute king of obstruction. Mitch has held up any stimulus because he wants protections for businesses, so they can’t be held liable for any spread of COVID. When Trump said he wanted 2k for every citizen, the House went to work. McConnell and the Senate is the problem.
Strangely, we are saying the same thing about the bill. It’s disrespect and disregard of the American citizen.
No, we are not saying the same thing about the bill at all. First, there should be no bill. It is a bailout for poorly governed blue states and cities. Their governors have intentionally crippled their economies and are driving wealth to the relatively free red states. Their tax base is deserting those areas.
If there must be a COVID-19 relief bill, then it should ONLY include payments to individuals and small businesses that have been victimized by the pandemic. The bill should contain no foreign aid and no state and city government bailouts. All those bailouts do is reward and encourage further state and local government mismanagement.
Put Tesla outside of Austin and in less than a decade, Austin and Texas will be raising taxes in order to pay for services and infrastructure. Surely it’s not that hard to understand. Move more wealthy companies in and more of the same. I know you’re obtuse but come on.
It’s America...move where you damn well please, but I don’t feel sorry for people who have the concern of “keeping wealth” when we have as much poverty as we do in this nation.
More Conservative mush you have eaten...mmm good!!! Blue state bailout may be one the most ignorant statements in conservative mythology.
1. Blue state bailout is in turn a red state bail out because most Republican run states can’t pay their bills. So every year is a red state bailout.
2. Blue states have the major population centers that have been hit the hardest by Covid and safety measures they need more federal money than the dirt in Wyoming.
No city and state aid will essentially kill all the services that people depend on. What a brilliant plan for conservative yammerers...you have essentially defunded the police and closed the schools.
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Washington does not have a magic money tree. These so-called stimulus bills cannot stimulate growth while authoritarian liberal governors keep businesses closed. If Biden takes office next month, you will see first hand how fast a strong economy can be wrecked through truly irresponsible government policies.
The country should have learned its lesson after Johnson, Nixon, and Carter wrecked the economy and Reagan then oversaw the biggest economic turnaround in history. That was the best example of socialist fiscal policy versus capitalist fiscal policy that the world has ever seen. The lesson was lost on Democrats and most of the current generation of Republicans. I've lived through an era that had high interest, unemployment, and inflation rates, all at the same time. They even created a name for it - the misery index.
If you have the misfortune of living through a period where the misery index is regularly reported, and I strongly suspect that you will, you will not think that it is a laughing matter. Somebody needs to sit you down and explain how basic economics works in our country. You really do not seem to understand where wealth and money come from. Printed money has very little value in a very weak economy and when people start losing confidence in their own country's currency, it is only a matter of time before panic sets in.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/start-up-ci...1609093013
I feel telepathic.

Messages In This Thread
Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-17-2020, 03:04 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-17-2020, 03:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 01:47 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 01:52 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:02 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 02:55 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 05:17 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 06:57 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-22-2020, 02:28 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 07:29 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:12 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Van Hagar - 12-23-2020, 11:07 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 11:15 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:24 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 11:30 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:36 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Van Hagar - 12-23-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 02:19 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:18 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:23 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 06:53 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:59 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 07:30 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 08:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 08:56 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 09:11 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 09:24 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 09:49 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 10:10 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 11:15 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 11:47 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:10 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 12:54 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:56 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 01:17 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 01:32 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:38 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-24-2020, 02:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 03:07 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-26-2020, 12:47 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-26-2020, 04:34 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 10:45 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 06:54 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:05 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 07:10 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 07:16 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:28 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Van Hagar - 12-23-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 10:59 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 02:57 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by The Outsider - 12-25-2020, 07:13 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-26-2020, 12:58 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-25-2020, 07:56 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-26-2020, 01:46 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-26-2020, 05:37 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by The Outsider - 12-26-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2020, 08:31 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2020, 01:10 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2020, 09:58 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2020, 12:26 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-29-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-29-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-29-2020, 04:45 PM
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