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12-23-2020, 11:25 PM
(12-23-2020, 11:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:No, tax rates do not automatically soar to New York and California levels because real estate values rise. That is one of the most stupid things that you have posted. But then you posted an even more stupid sentence by suggesting that people should not be able to move when their taxes are too high.(12-23-2020, 10:10 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(12-23-2020, 09:49 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:People are fleeing oppression before what wealth they have left is redistributed. You really cannot put a coherent argument together. Donald Trump begged Congress to send him a clean COVID-19 bill targeted at individuals and small businesses.(12-23-2020, 09:24 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:(12-23-2020, 09:11 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: What a horrible take...I have found the evidence and you choose to ignore it. People are fleeing states like California, New York, and New Jersey in huge numbers. People cannot thrive in this country without jobs. Democrats are aggressively killing jobs. Deaths by suicide and drug overdoses have soared. Socialism spreads misery.
I always felt conservatives were largely heartless, and you didn’t disappoint with a despicable post
that is fast and loose with facts.
I know it’s hard to understand. (Slowly talking) When people are around other people they can spread the virus.
The evidence you’re looking for is
common sense.
This is the deadliest year ever for Americans. We have been running at about 60% and will lose 400k more lives than we ever have. Your figures ,like you, didn’t prove your point.
People are fleeing the population centers during a pandemic. Be careful what you wish for though Hoot. All this cheering for the blue state exodus will flip some of these Republican safe havens like Texas, Florida, and Georgia.
These people would have overdosed or committed suicide anyway.
*see how that works.
I agree. It is misery when that socialism is sucked up by the rich in tax breaks and subsidies. In turn it drives up inflation making it damn near impossible for citizens to live.
What Congress passed was a bill filled with pork barrel spending and foreign aid and a measly $600 payment to individuals. Trump said that he will veto it. You criticized him. Now you whine that "socialism is sucked up by the rich" when Democrats insisted on inserting that spending into the bill, not Trump, Pelosi. I am beginning to think that you just really enjoy whining
You realize when these people move to these new areas with their wealth and drive up the real estate and everything else the same problem will happen. But let’s pity the people who have wealth and can leave because their taxes are too high.
When did Donald Trump do that? More comedy.
You are leaving the absolute king of obstruction. Mitch has held up any stimulus because he wants protections for businesses, so they can’t be held liable for any spread of COVID. When Trump said he wanted 2k for every citizen, the House went to work. McConnell and the Senate is the problem.
Strangely, we are saying the same thing about the bill. It’s disrespect and disregard of the American citizen.
No, we are not saying the same thing about the bill at all. First, there should be no bill. It is a bailout for poorly governed blue states and cities. Their governors have intentionally crippled their economies and are driving wealth to the relatively free red states. Their tax base is deserting those areas.
If there must be a COVID-19 relief bill, then it should ONLY include payments to individuals and small businesses that have been victimized by the pandemic. The bill should contain no foreign aid and no state and city government bailouts. All those bailouts do is reward and encourage further state and local government mismanagement.
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Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-17-2020, 03:04 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-17-2020, 03:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 01:47 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 01:52 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:02 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 02:55 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 05:17 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 06:57 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-22-2020, 02:28 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-22-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-22-2020, 07:29 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:12 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Van Hagar - 12-23-2020, 11:07 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 11:15 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:24 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 11:30 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:36 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Van Hagar - 12-23-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 02:19 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:18 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:23 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 06:53 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 06:59 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 07:30 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 08:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 08:56 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 09:11 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 09:24 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 09:49 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 10:10 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 11:15 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 11:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-23-2020, 11:47 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:10 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 12:54 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:56 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 01:17 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 01:32 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 12:38 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-24-2020, 02:25 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-24-2020, 03:07 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-26-2020, 12:47 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-26-2020, 04:34 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by TheRealThing - 12-23-2020, 10:45 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 06:54 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:05 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 07:10 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-23-2020, 07:16 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 07:28 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Van Hagar - 12-23-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-23-2020, 10:59 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-24-2020, 02:57 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by The Outsider - 12-25-2020, 07:13 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-26-2020, 12:58 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-25-2020, 07:56 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-26-2020, 01:46 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-26-2020, 05:37 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by The Outsider - 12-26-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-27-2020, 08:31 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2020, 01:10 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-28-2020, 09:58 AM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Hoot Gibson - 12-28-2020, 12:26 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-29-2020, 04:05 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by vector#1 - 12-29-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Stimulus #2 - by Cardfan1 - 12-29-2020, 04:45 PM
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