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07-15-2016, 09:31 PM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Just an example: Ford Motor did a cost-benefit analysis and decided it was cheaper to settle lawsuits than recall the Pinto and fix a little problem (when rear ended, it had a tendency to blow up). That is a form of economic injustice, in that silver and gold is counted more dear than flesh and blood.
"Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
"Blessed are you who hunger now, for you will be satisfied." Before spiritualizing these words...
"Woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort.
"Woe to you who are well fed now, for you will grow hungry."
I do not believe, actually, the Great Reversal will take place in this temporality, though in Acts 2: 42-45, a certain reversal of attitude has already taken place.
In sum, I am not suggesting that a hard working person who is successful should be taxed at 40% so that those who won't work can have big screen tv's, or that hard work and financial success are to be frowned upon. That is ridiculous. I am suggesting the power elite on Wall Street and in board rooms should tread carefully, as the God who spared not for flesh and blood will not spare those who honor silver and gold above flesh and blood.
Once again, there is no doctrine of economic injustice in Scripture. Men covet money in just the same way they do all their possessions. Heck, some guy's whole lives are tied up in a boat, or even a really nice lawnmower for than matter.
I don't know what the Great Reversal is supposed to be, it isn't to be seen anywhere in Scripture. But I'm not going to keep arguing with you on this. You're conclusions about the rich are all wrong, as are yet again, the Scripture verses you misapply in your attempts to validate the tenets of the liberal/progressive viewpoint under which you have evidently been subjected. God does not hate the rich, most of them come by their riches honestly. As I told you, this world's system of finance was conceived centuries ago. Money is a blessing when it comes time to pay the electric bill. It is in the 'LOVE' of money, that we find the root of all evil, not the possession of it. Are there movers and shakers on Wall Street? I hope so, it wouldn't do them or the US a lot of good if they worked digging a ditch somewhere.
The evil of this world is not just the misuse of money, it is in all sin. Sin is attractive. Wine, women and song which we call partying these days, possessions too. Every one of the Trillions of souls ever born on the face of this planet had/have a choice to make. Most, like Satan, just cannot give up control of their own life, they are instead hopelessly compelled to judge what is right in their own eyes. Men deciding they know better than God what is right. Cain did it when he slew Able. And America does it when they pass laws which legalize homosexuality and other sin.
Isaiah 14:12-14 (KJV)
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Satan couldn't bow before God and he actually, at one point before being cast out, lived in heaven and saw reality of it with his own eyes. Men are the same, they either surrender to the call of the Lord, or they play it their way, telling themselves all the while that they're just as good as anybody else. They're right about that but then, 'all have fallen and come short of the glory of God.' No, the question men must face is not that of money, it is whether or not they will bow before Him in repentance, or, if they will 'reject so great a salvation.'
And BTW, the tests in which the Ford Pinto exploded during rear impacts and the resultant decisions made by Ford executives may well have shown a disgusting disregard for human life, I agree. However, like a typical lib, you're continually up on that soap box about some abstraction you have named economic injustice, which as it turns out in the case you cited involved 27 unfortunate people. While at the same time, you luxuriate in the comfort of a warm fuzzy blanket afforded by Roe v Wade, feeling good about 60 million slaughtered innocents just because that version of the Supremely misguided Court ruled women could legally get abortions. Forgive me but I find that to be incredible.
Satan was tossed out of heaven for doing that which he already wanted to do in his heart. Then he used guile to talk Eve into doing something he perceived she already wanted to do in her heart. Car salesmen talk people into buying cars they already want to buy, in fact, men always do what they want and let's be honest, women want to get rid of their mistakes (children) because they already want to do it in their heart. So you see, it is a question of the heart, which in the case of man's heart according to God, 'is desperately wicked.' Money is just one of the baubles out there on planet earth to dazzle the eye, as it (the world) provides a reasonable alternative to God, for those to make who cannot choose to live in humility before the Him. In other words, we were put here to make a choice, for or against God. And that applies equally to the rich and the poor.
The whole notion of economic injustice flies in the face of the pronounced curse which God placed on the earth back in Genesis. Genesis 3:13-19 (KJV)
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
There is no way around this, God cursed the ground, what you call economic injustice, Romans 8:22 calls part of the curse;
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
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