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03-13-2016, 09:54 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:I will freely admit that Trump has incited the ire and the wrath of the establishment. It's the same old ploy, the Republican is going to take away your entitlements. Only this time, the collaborators are strange bedfellows, (Jorge Ramos and Rich Lowry?) and the victims are acting a lot more militant.I saw no need to "admit" the obvious. Organized protests are a part of presidential campaigns. Some candidates handle the protests well and maintain as much safety and security for their supporters as possible and some do not. Trump obviously strives to exploit conflict between his supporters and protesters for personal political gain.
Otherwise, one would have to believe that protestors are like a country or a people unto themselves. And thus when they see other protestors get a dose of their own medicine at a Trump rally somewhere, they naturally are going to as a group, organize a more forceful effort. From whence would this protestor esprit de corps emanate? You did not use the word spontaneous, I agree. But for your argument to hold water it would have been inferred, in my view, and any scenario other than that of being spontaneous would render the whole thing theatric, manufactured and illegitimate.
So, were others who resent Trump's language actually pulling the protestor's strings? Consequently then, were those protestors motivated out of personal dispute, or are they useful idiots? Trump's critics may very often have a point, or a legitimate ax to grind as far as decorum and Emily Post. That does not give them the right to crack open Saul Alinsky's playbook, in my book.
And thank you for admitting that these protestors, are very likely plants. Put there to create havoc in an historic attempt to interdict what has always been heretofore, a fair and orderly political process.
No disrespect intended Hoot, and this is no thinly veiled slam against you, but I see people hiding behind some pretty despicable straw men here.
The fact that Trump is the Republican front runner makes his events bigger targets than other candidates' events, but I do not believe that Trump does anything to avoid or diffuse conflicts with protesters. Trump has a Secret Service detail protecting him from the consequences of his actions, but he places attendees of his events in harm's way.
You will never see Cruz or Rubio encouraging their supporters to "knock the crap" out of a protester, nor will you ever hear them offering to pay the legal costs for anybody who physically attacks a protester. Those are the actions of a candidate who has no respect for his supporters and no concern for their safety. Trump loves his supporters the way that wealthy Romans loved their best gladiators.
This country has become a laughingstock under Obama and now we're looking at a potential choice between a reckless clown and a felon to succeed him. I am angry at the Republican establishment but not angry enough to choose either of those two very bad choices.
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Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-11-2016, 05:04 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-11-2016, 05:13 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-11-2016, 08:01 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-11-2016, 08:11 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-11-2016, 08:12 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-11-2016, 08:18 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-11-2016, 10:37 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 12:45 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 02:23 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-12-2016, 02:36 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 03:57 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by RunItUpTheGut - 03-12-2016, 05:50 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 01:40 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 01:59 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 05:31 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 05:52 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 06:30 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 07:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 07:22 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 07:25 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 07:26 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 07:42 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 07:49 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 08:05 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 08:15 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 08:25 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 08:42 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 08:48 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 08:56 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 08:58 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 09:32 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 10:12 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 10:23 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 10:26 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 10:30 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 10:46 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 10:48 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-12-2016, 10:51 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 11:05 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 11:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 11:28 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 12:38 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 03:10 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 03:18 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 03:24 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 03:36 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 03:46 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 04:13 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 04:56 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 05:18 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 05:37 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 06:18 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 06:51 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 09:25 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 03:06 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 06:00 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 06:43 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 07:34 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 08:34 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 08:46 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 09:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 09:30 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-13-2016, 09:48 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 09:54 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 10:43 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-14-2016, 12:21 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-14-2016, 01:48 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Motley - 03-14-2016, 08:36 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by The Urban Sombrero - 03-14-2016, 08:49 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-14-2016, 09:06 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-14-2016, 09:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by The Urban Sombrero - 03-14-2016, 09:23 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-15-2016, 03:17 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by RunItUpTheGut - 03-15-2016, 03:38 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-16-2016, 08:53 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-16-2016, 10:29 PM
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