[TheRealThing]

I don't have a link and I'm not in the mood to search for one. I have posted many well documented arguments against Trump in their own thread and I doubt that you have read all of those posts. Just Google "Trump torture water boarding kill terrorist families."

If you want to confirm the facts for yourself and trust that the videos have not been manipulated, then you should be able to find video clips of Trump making these statements on Youtube.

The torture to which I refer is not water boarding, which I support in limited situations. Trump was vague and did not use the word "torture," but made it clear that waterboarding was just the minimum that should be used in questioning terrorists. He was either unaware or unconcerned that waterboarding and "far worse" is currently illegal.

Trump was very clear about killing the families of terrorists. The statement was also made during a debate, as was his response to the question about the possibility that members of the military might disobey his orders. Like many of Trump's outrageous. poorly conceived positions, he walked them back within a day or so, undoubtedly after his lawyers and political advisers had some serious discussions with him.

Members of our military cannot commit crimes against humanity and then use the "just following orders" excuse. Following unlawful orders is covered by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Members of the U.S. military are obligated to disobey unlawful orders. Unfortunately, that presently includes orders to waterboard a prisoner.

One would think that Trump would not need to have these facts explained to him by a lawyer but one would be wrong.

Okay great, and thank you for answering. Just as in the case of John Kasich's treachery today, Trump's critics have taken liberties and stretched some points in order to make the case that he is going to torture people. I was in the Armed Services and though I'm no expert, I have a reasonable grasp of the UCMJ.

Trump is no polished politician, and he speaks off the cuff. A trait that I am quite comfortable with, especially in view of the guile filled verbosity of the past 7 plus years. I've just had it with the lying.

The families of terrorists would as soon cut your head off as would the Daddies. I understand what Trump meant when he spoke of extended family units that worked together to hide the terror activities of their criminal kinsmen. They are just as guilty and that argument is supported by San Bernardino. While terroristic monsters use the benefits of our law's protection as an umbrella under which to operate in a safe environment, we have become slave to the letter of the law. They can do any heinous crime imaginable, but we are very limited in how we can respond, under the law. I'm one of those who would like to think that the law should work to benefit the law abiding, not the criminals among us. Trump's statement reflected that frustration and I saw through it immediately.

Where you see dishonesty in Trump, I see honesty. I know when I'm being lied to and I know when Cruz has stretched the truth to suit his political fortunes. For example, Trump certainly did not intentionally and purposefully fund the gang of eight. Five politicians who wound up being part of the gang of eight had received donations from him in the past. That is a significant distinction in my book, but Cruz says it anyway. And BTW, Trump doesn't go around bribing politicians with money, they come to him asking for money. Again, big difference. Poisoning the well one shares with his neighbor because he is mad at him, is what this election cycle looks like to me.