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What do we mean when we say Welfare?
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Beetle01 Wrote:TANF- which is cash for families - needs to go
Benefits for Immigrants - definitely needs to go
Medicaid for anyone other than the elderly needs to go
The Food Stamp program needs to go.
Education vouchers need to go


And before anyone jumps in asking about the kids, I left out the Child Support and Child nutrition programs.

Like I said I work in a ER, 90% of our patients are people in there on the govt dime looking for drugs. I do not exaggerate when I say 90%. Most are in there multiple times every week.

We had one guy the other night who had got Fentanyl patches, 90 pills of Roxicet 30mg, and Xanax 1mg 50 pills the day before. He was asking for pain meds. Of course he didnt get anything, and he tried to fight the doctor and got dragged out after signing out AMA.

Plus its not like these people come in complaining of simple things, most of the time is chest pain, abdomen and back pain, head pain (oh and dont say it may be a headache), they say its something different. So the Doctors and Nurses have no choice but to order up expensive tests, because we have to protect our licenses just in case this one guy does actually have a head bleed or is having a heart attack. Then a lot of times after they get their meds they are intent on staying so these massive bills are built up 10, 20, 50k bills. Then on top of all that BS, while they are taking time away from everyone who really is sick and needs care, they want everyone to be their maid and servant. And you wanna know the sick thing about it, due to Obama care, how these people rate the service will depend on how much money they govt is going to give the hospital that its owed for services. If they dont meet certain ratings the govt with withhold medicare and medicaid money. Not just measly bucks either, in a few years it will be millions that are at risk for each hospital. So a couple of bad years of bad rating can cost a lot of hard working people their jobs, not to mention the quality of healthcare will go down as the doctors, nurses, and other medical staff will be to understaffed to give the proper treatment. Which could be you, you child, or another family member.

I dont want this to turn into an Obamacare thread so lets steer away from that, it does have some good things in it, but they went way to far with others. I do believe our country can afford to help take care of the sick but their need to be limits, and mainly for emergent or chronic problems. I mean I dont even have insurance right now because I switched to a new job a few months ago and there is that dreaded waiting period. Luckily I dont have any immediate health issues so its okay, but if something were to happen and I ended up needing emergent and serious care I could be screwed unless I was treated at St. Mary's.

110% agree with this post.
Do away with those things, and our country gets better.

However as far as education vouchers go, i have no problem with kids who need financial help for going to college to get the money they need.
If a kid has enough aspiration to go to college and keep his head on straight i see no problem with PELL grants and other things the govt does to help kids whos parents simply cant, especially with the ridicolous cost of tuition these days.
Giving money to immigrants or like in CA, illegal immigrants, needs to be the first thing to go.
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What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by LWC - 02-02-2012, 12:01 PM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by nky - 02-02-2012, 12:17 PM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by LWC - 02-02-2012, 07:52 PM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by RunItUpTheGut - 02-03-2012, 03:23 AM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by nky - 02-03-2012, 11:41 AM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by nky - 02-03-2012, 11:49 AM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by LWC - 02-03-2012, 12:13 PM
What do we mean when we say Welfare? - by vundy33 - 02-04-2012, 01:12 AM

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