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I probably misled you. His body was extended past the marker as he was going out. Like when you extend your arms and get a TD. Your feet are on the 3 but the ball breaks the plane.

I understood you I just think we may need a referee ruling. If the ball breaks the plane of the goal line at any point it is a TD at that point, nothing else matters. But in the field of play, if a player extends the ball past the 1st down marker, but his foot goes out of bounds behind the marker, I think he is out of bounds where his foot goes out and it isn't a first down. In the same way, you can run beyond the marker, then retreat behind it and if you are tackled or go out of bounds, you are considered short of the 1st down.