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Shelby Valley
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Belfry
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Belfry vs. Shelby Valley
#31
im gonna take belfry cause there on there way to rupp and theres no one that can stop them right now
#32
Belfry in a close win 68-67 ot
#33
Belfry is hungrier than anyone in the state right now to go to Rupp.. Its been 15 years since Belfry has been to the State Tournament.. 15 years of hunger, 15 years of watching someone else cut down the nets.. 15 years worth of settling with just going to region, or disrict.. This isn't just a hunger of 15 guys on a team, this is an hunger of a whole school, a hunger of community.. These boys are not just playing for themselves, they are playing for everyone who has ever put on a Belfry jersey, they are playing for everyone who has
worked toward this dream, and they are playing for this hungry community.. Its feeding time.. Boys, go do what you have to do.. Show the entire region what heart is.. I'm going with Belfry.. Don't be denied.. It's our turn.
#34
I'll take Belfry by 8..if valley wants to win they better keep belfry off the line cause they dont miss to many
#35
well here is how it works out...if valley shuts down Case its all over for Belfry...BUT if Case gets hot its lights out and see you next year Valley...Belfry by 5
#36
Ive yet to see Case shut down this year so that would be a good sign. I honestly believe Belfry is better. SV is good and quick and presses well but Belfry can handle the press, as long as they dont make bonehead turnovers. But Dustin May and Jamie Case will get the lane against Valley easier than they did against Paintsville. You dont beat Valley at their game you take it to them and Belfry is stronger at almost every position and can do that.
I dont think Case is the key to this game, he will get his you can makr that down. I think the big key is May. Also the other guys like Steele that had 12 points and Warren that got some nice rebounds. Players like that will be a key to this game for Belfry.
Valley is a heck of a team though and wouldn't be suprised either way but Im telling you I think Belfry will win it, biased maybe so but I honestly think Belfry is better. We will see Friday night.
#37
Belfry is going to have to take care of the ball.. They can't afford to turn the ball over as a result from the SV press.. One of the key players for a Belfry victory, will be the guard play of Farley.. He is definitely going to have to take care of the ball, not get ansy when pressured, and just be calm.. Also, Belfry can not make these stupid lazy passes.. Every possesion counts, and you can't afford to turn the ball over period.. Against Paintsville, Belfry made numerous lazy passes, where they don't pay attention, and try to just toss the ball right by a defender.. That can't happen against Valley.. Belfry needs quality minutes by everyone who steps on the floor, its going to take a team effort.. Warren needs to hit the glass hard, and take advantage of his size.. Belfry will definitely need him for freethrows.. Reed needs to crash the boards, and utilize his abilities.. Justin Steele is going to have to stay focused, and take care of the ball.. Hes going to have to knock down his shots when he has the oppurtunity.. Jamie is just going to have to be Jamie.. keep doing what hes been doing everynight, just being a little more careful about picking up stupid fouls.. Dustin May is going to have to be a bull.. Belfrys going to have to pound it in to him, and let him do the dirty work.. He has to maintain his focus, not get rattled by the pressure & the atmosphere, not let things get to him.. He is going to also have to hit the boards hard, and use his strength to have his way with this young SV team.. Like I have stated above, Belfry's main key is ball controll.. They can not become rattled, or fustrated at the SV press.. The key to breaking SV's press is getting to ball to the middle of the court.. They can't get isolated on the sides of the court.. I'm sure the coaching staff is going over this with the team, but they must understand, this is what has to be done, for Belfry to come out victorious.. Good Luck Belfry, you can do it..
#38
I'm not doubting Belfry one bit, but I do find it hard to believe that a 27-3 team is being picked to lose 21-3 because they had a bad game tonight.

The way it looks, if Shelby Valley wins we can call it one of the biggest upsets this year Smile Favored to lose almost by 90% of people.

How big are Belfry's starting 5?
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#39
alfus21 Wrote:I'm not doubting Belfry one bit, but I do find it hard to believe that a 27-3 team is being picked to lose 21-3 because they had a bad game tonight.

The way it looks, if Shelby Valley wins we can call it one of the biggest upsets this year Smile Favored to lose almost by 90% of people.


yep.. coz 24 people on Bluegrass Rivals are all the people... Riggggggggght...
21 people just picked an upset to happen friday night..


By the way.. Belfry should be 25-5 right now at least..
#40
mrfootball03 Wrote:yep.. coz 24 people on Bluegrass Rivals are all the people... Riggggggggght...
21 people just picked an upset to happen friday night..


By the way.. Belfry should be 25-5 right now at least..

I was just playing around. I just think it's pretty funny that Shelby Valley is so heavily favored to lose according to the people who have voted. :eek:

And I don't know enough about Belfry to assess their record, so I won't say if they should be a certain record or not. It could be easily said about any team in the region that their record "could" be something.
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#41
alfus21 Wrote:I was just playing around. I just think it's pretty funny that Shelby Valley is so heavily favored to lose according to the people who have voted. :eek:

And I don't know enough about Belfry to assess their record, so I won't say if they should be a certain record or not. It could be easily said about any team in the region that their record "could" be something.



yea, I agree...Go Valley, pull the upset lol
#42
mrfootball03 Wrote:By the way.. Belfry should be 25-5 right now at least..
Right, and SV should be 30-0...
Yeah SV played bad last night, big deal. That doesn't mean it will happen again Friday. Honestly I wasn't impressed with Belfry on Monday night, I just thought both Paintsville and Belfry looked bad. I am really glad that this many people feel that because SV played a bad game they are doomed. I'm sorry, but thats not the way it works, though many of you wish it was. As bad as everyone hates to admit it SV is still alive and that scares everyone remaining in the tournament. I mean this team has taken care of business night in and night out all year long. If they come to the Expo, Friday night and play their game there is now way Belfry beats them. SV played Warren Central to 3 points, that is without a doubt something no one else in this region can do. If both teams play well it will be Valley's game by 10-12. Am I saying Belfry can't win? Nope. But if they do its SV's fault because Shelby Valley is the better team.
#43
Well, imma say Belfry wins this by 10+. Valley is good, but they aren't good enough to stop Case and the Pirates. As long as they come ready to play, they'll have no problem getting the big W and going to the Championship Game. GOOD LUCK to both teams and GO PIRATES!!
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#44
Larry Legend Wrote:Right, and SV should be 30-0...
Yeah SV played bad last night, big deal. That doesn't mean it will happen again Friday. Honestly I wasn't impressed with Belfry on Monday night, I just thought both Paintsville and Belfry looked bad. I am really glad that this many people feel that because SV played a bad game they are doomed. I'm sorry, but thats not the way it works, though many of you wish it was. As bad as everyone hates to admit it SV is still alive and that scares everyone remaining in the tournament. I mean this team has taken care of business night in and night out all year long. If they come to the Expo, Friday night and play their game there is now way Belfry beats them. SV played Warren Central to 3 points, that is without a doubt something no one else in this region can do. If both teams play well it will be Valley's game by 10-12. Am I saying Belfry can't win? Nope. But if they do its SV's fault because Shelby Valley is the better team.

I really doubt Valley scares anyone remaining in the field.

And why are you guys still bragging about a close loss?? A loss is a loss, anyway you look at it. Did anyone else play Warren Central? No, so how can you imply that no one in this region could do that. Paintsville played teams just as good or better than Warren Central to closer games. Look where they are now.

Bottom line...We should see a good ballgame Friday night, and neither team is clearly at an advantage.
#45
BoondockSaint Wrote:I really doubt Valley scares anyone remaining in the field.

And why are you guys still bragging about a close loss?? A loss is a loss, anyway you look at it. Did anyone else play Warren Central? No, so how can you imply that no one in this region could do that. Paintsville played teams just as good or better than Warren Central to closer games. Look where they are now.

Bottom line...We should see a good ballgame Friday night, and neither team is clearly at an advantage.
Umm... Nobody that Paintsville has played is as good as Warren Central, I promise you that.
Everyone thinks that Belfry is a bunch of world beaters because they beat a Paintsville team that wasn't very good. I am the first to say that SV played terrible last night, but that was last night. I just don't understand why everyone is suddenly all about Belfry being the best team in the tourney.
#46
Larry Legend Wrote:Umm... Nobody that Paintsville has played is as good as Warren Central, I promise you that.
Everyone thinks that Belfry is a bunch of world beaters because they beat a Paintsville team that wasn't very good. I am the first to say that SV played terrible last night, but that was last night. I just don't understand why everyone is suddenly all about Belfry being the best team in the tourney.


I never said Belfry was a lock to win the toureny.

If you want to tell me South Laurel isn't as good as Warren Central go ahead...but I don't believe it at all.
#47
BoondockSaint Wrote:If you want to tell me South Laurel isn't as good as Warren Central go ahead...but I don't believe it at all.
Thats fine and a matter of opinion, but I mean Sv's resume is a pretty good one, that is all I am saying.
#48
It's not so much that they are the best team, or have the most talent. They are just playing well as a team right now, and they are the most physical team in the region. They are big and strong, and they can wear a team down.
#49
One more thing.

Polls are fun for everyone to argue over, but let's not take them out of context. The reason Belfry is so heavily favored in the polls are pretty simple.

#1 There are a lot of Belfry people on BGR.
#2 Nobody except people from Shelby Valley are going to vote for SV. Mainly because they've been the top dog for a while and people in the 15th want to see them lose.
#3 Belfry is as hot as anyone in the tournament and they are probably the only team left with a legitamate shot at beating them.

Basically, what I'm saying is that polls are deceiving and most of the time people vote for who they want to win, as opposed to who will win.

With that being said, I voted for Belfry because I really think they can and will win.Big Grin
#50
BoondockSaint Wrote:One more thing.

Polls are fun for everyone to argue over, but let's not take them out of context. The reason Belfry is so heavily favored in the polls are pretty simple.

#1 There are a lot of Belfry people on BGR.
#2 Nobody except people from Shelby Valley are going to vote for SV. Mainly because they've been the top dog for a while and people in the 15th want to see them lose.
#3 Belfry is as hot as anyone in the tournament and they are probably the only team left with a legitamate shot at beating them.

Basically, what I'm saying is that polls are deceiving and most of the time people vote for who they want to win, as opposed to who will win.
I agree and realize the reason for the discrepency in the poll, I just think that its kinda funny. I really doubt it would be different if SV had beaten Besty Layne by 20.
#51
Larry Legend Wrote:I agree and realize the reason for the discrepency in the poll, I just think that its kinda funny. I really doubt it would be different if SV had beaten Besty Layne by 20.

yeah, aint it funny they play WC to 3 points, an also barely beat teams like BL, an Jenkins?.. haha. yeah they're amazing.. Smile
#52
Larry Legend Wrote:I agree and realize the reason for the discrepency in the poll, I just think that its kinda funny. I really doubt it would be different if SV had beaten Besty Layne by 20.


I agree...probably wouldn't have effected the poll in the least.
#53
Larry Legend Wrote:Right, and SV should be 30-0...
Yeah SV played bad last night, big deal. That doesn't mean it will happen again Friday. Honestly I wasn't impressed with Belfry on Monday night, I just thought both Paintsville and Belfry looked bad. I am really glad that this many people feel that because SV played a bad game they are doomed. I'm sorry, but thats not the way it works, though many of you wish it was. As bad as everyone hates to admit it SV is still alive and that scares everyone remaining in the tournament. I mean this team has taken care of business night in and night out all year long. If they come to the Expo, Friday night and play their game there is now way Belfry beats them. SV played Warren Central to 3 points, that is without a doubt something no one else in this region can do. If both teams play well it will be Valley's game by 10-12. Am I saying Belfry can't win? Nope. But if they do its SV's fault because Shelby Valley is the better team.

i'm saying, Belfry would have not lost against Lawrence & Phelps if Case had played.. pretty simple... so with Case, they actually should have been 26-5..

Ooooooooo, SV is so scary *in best sarcastics voice*.. everyone remaining in the tournament is terrified.. haha...

ain't nobody scared.. you can guarantee that.. Belfry will be ready for a war..
#54
Larry Legend Wrote:Umm... Nobody that Paintsville has played is as good as Warren Central, I promise you that.
Everyone thinks that Belfry is a bunch of world beaters because they beat a Paintsville team that wasn't very good. I am the first to say that SV played terrible last night, but that was last night. I just don't understand why everyone is suddenly all about Belfry being the best team in the tourney.

Um.. I do recall Paintsville playing with Bryan Station, which is better than Warren Central..

Oh, and Station also beat Paul Dunbar twice... a team that beat SV's ass...
soooo .. now tell me Paintsville didn't play Bryan Station?..
#55
Larry Legend Wrote:Umm... Nobody that Paintsville has played is as good as Warren Central, I promise you that.
Everyone thinks that Belfry is a bunch of world beaters because they beat a Paintsville team that wasn't very good. I am the first to say that SV played terrible last night, but that was last night. I just don't understand why everyone is suddenly all about Belfry being the best team in the tourney.
I'm glad you are an expert. Paintsville is a dang good team. Belfry just completely took them out of their game Monday. I know here goes Landon Slone is better than anyone from SV and look what happened. It comes down to SV thinking they have it won before they play and Belfry spanking their ass just like they did P-Ville Monday night because they want it.
#56
Here is my thoughts on the game.

Shelby Valley first, they have to get their press the way it was during the regular season. I personally think that is harder to do than to say where the court is bigger and players can spread out farther. Shelby Valley does a lot of back tips, slapping at the ball, ect. It seems from watching the Shelby Valley/Betsy Layne game that they are being called for it which will get Shelby Valley in foul trouble and Belfry on the line. Belfry shots very good free throws for a team so that might be problems. Shelby Valley is very unselfish with the ball. They make the extra pass or even two to get a better look and shot at the goal.

Belfry is very strong with the ball. It takes a little more to slap it out of their hands. Rebounding, I would have to go with Belfry. I think they have more strength under the goal to box out better with. Not to mention more size and meat down there too. For Belfry to win, they cant turn the ball over. They have to handle the pressure defense that Shelby Valley plays. And they will have to bust their butts to get back on defense to keep the break from Valley from getting most of their points.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It is the size of the fight in the dog.
#57
mrfootball03 Wrote:Um.. I do recall Paintsville playing with Bryan Station, which is better than Warren Central..

Oh, and Station also beat Paul Dunbar twice... a team that beat SV's ass...
soooo .. now tell me Paintsville didn't play Bryan Station?..

Bryan Station is a good team, but they aren't necessarily better than Warren Central. I'd rank them right around even with each other. Warren Central is 25-4 and have a lot of big game experience from the last couple of years whereas Shelby Valley's inexperience hurt them in that game along with the Dunbar game.
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#58
Heres my take. Case best player in region hands down! Belfry playing better than anyone! Valley best team all year long, and odds on fav to win it. So until they get beat, regardless of who, how, or whom someone else hasn't played they are the favorites. As for everyone saying Slone, Case or whoever yea these guys are outstanding players. In their system!! They have to be! Valley has several players who can be of this caliber. Instead they work well as a unit, thats just our system. You are not going to see kids put up eyepopping #'s. You will see our teams put up wins, and like someone said in a early post A LOSS IS A LOSS! Yes it is! But A WIN IS WIN! Especially in MARCH! Good luck to all remaining team.
#59
alfus21 Wrote:Bryan Station is a good team, but they aren't necessarily better than Warren Central. I'd rank them right around even with each other. Warren Central is 25-4 and have a lot of big game experience from the last couple of years whereas Shelby Valley's inexperience hurt them in that game along with the Dunbar game.

Warren Central hasn't had as tough as schedule as B.S., I do think they are better than WC...
Still, this was about someone comment earlier, that Paintsville hasn't played anyone as good as WC.. and they have.. with Station.. which they only lost by 7
#60
mrfootball03 Wrote:Um.. I do recall Paintsville playing with Bryan Station, which is better than Warren Central..

Oh, and Station also beat Paul Dunbar twice... a team that beat SV's ass...
soooo .. now tell me Paintsville didn't play Bryan Station?..
Warren Central is ranked as high as 3rd in the state...
Dunbar is top 25, the way you say it Paintsville beat Bryan Station and that isn't the case. You're argument makes no sense.

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