Whats Wrong With Kentucky Boys?

happyface · 01-05-2007, 11:10 AM

When you ride by parks you don't see our kids playing pick up basketball anymore. Cars, cell phones, internet, and video games has destroyed the basketball foundation.

StrikeoutKing · 01-05-2007, 12:28 PM

Ty Proffit just signed a D1 scholarship to play for Notre Dame. So there's one out of a very talented 2007 class. It's not a major basketball school, but congrats to him nonetheless! Whatever happened to JuJuan Spillman? Didn't he win Mr. Basketball a few years ago? Last I heard, he had signed to play for Cincinnati, but I haven't heard anything since. Used to be, if you won Mr. Basketball, you were going somewhere. But now what?

**OffTheHook** · 01-05-2007, 01:14 PM

Another thing about KY compared to these so call "BIG CITY BOYS", as some call them. Is A VERY high majority of KY highschool coaches teach what is called TEAM ball. Because that what basketball is, a TEAM sport. That is why Pelphrey, Farmer and Feldhous "The Unforgetables" did so well. They were all TEAM players and knew that they had to play as a TEAM to win. Smart kids and graet TEAMmates, that's what you get when you recruit the top players outa KY! Pintino said that was he most favorite team of all time. Heart and Desire. NOT, "I just need a year or two to get to da NBA and get dat MONEY"

happyface · 01-05-2007, 05:55 PM

They were also great individual players at their high schools, thats why they ended up at Kentucky, not because of their team play. Not saying they were not team ball players, but make no mistake about it they were great individual ball players at the high school level and Pelphrey and Feldhaus were big guys who could handle the ball and Farmer was a big time scorer at Clay County, these were no ordinary high school players. Was Reggie Hanson part of that team with Farmer, Feldhaus and Pelphrey?

~~Survivor~~ · 01-05-2007, 06:03 PM

StrikeoutKing Wrote:Ty Proffit just signed a D1 scholarship to play for Notre Dame. So there's one out of a very talented 2007 class. It's not a major basketball school, but congrats to him nonetheless! Whatever happened to JuJuan Spillman? Didn't he win Mr. Basketball a few years ago? Last I heard, he had signed to play for Cincinnati, but I haven't heard anything since. Used to be, if you won Mr. Basketball, you were going somewhere. But now what?

Tubby did a good thing by not recruiting Ty Proffit. I think he is the most overated player in the state of KY. I will be surprised if ever plays any for Notre Dame.

twentythree · 01-05-2007, 06:35 PM

Yeah Farmer and all those boys were recruited not only for their TEAM leadership but they were lights out...you're not going to find many players around the state that can fill up like those men..

**OffTheHook** · 01-06-2007, 12:50 AM

twentythree Wrote:Yeah Farmer and all those boys were recruited not only for their TEAM leadership but they were lights out...you're not going to find many players around the state that can fill up like those men..

PLease. UK was on probation when those boys except Pelphrey, who redshirted, came to town. All these so called lights out players didn't want to come to a team that wasn't even eligible to make the post season tourney! Mashburn and so on showed up at the end of the probation.

01-06-2007, 12:52 AM

OffTheHook Wrote:PLease. UK was on probation when those boys except Pelphrey, who redshirted, came to town. All these so called lights out players didn't want to come to a team that wasn't even eligible to make the post season tourney! Mashburn and so on showed up at the end of the probation.

I have to say, hes right!

twentythree · 01-06-2007, 01:13 AM

Year in and year out you put Kentucky's best high school team against other states and just see if they win 30% of their games...face it

**OffTheHook** · 01-06-2007, 01:18 AM

twentythree Wrote:Year in and year out you put Kentucky's best high school team against other states and just see if they win 30% of their games...face it

No one is say to put nothing but KY's best on the court. All we are saying is just try and get a few of the Top ones. NOT, one state could do that and it DOES NOT happen now! We are just saying, RUPP and all the others did it and were successful. So what is Tubby's excuse for loosing???????

BigJ · 01-06-2007, 01:32 AM

just dont understand it

01-06-2007, 03:47 AM

BigJ Wrote:just dont understand it

What do ya mean by that?

**alfus21** · 01-06-2007, 05:48 AM

OffTheHook Wrote:No one is say to put nothing but KY's best on the court. All we are saying is just try and get a few of the Top ones. NOT, one state could do that and it DOES NOT happen now! We are just saying, RUPP and all the others did it and were successful. So what is Tubby's excuse for loosing???????

Call me crazy, but I think the game of basketball and it's players have changed since the days of Rupp.

**OffTheHook** · 01-06-2007, 09:42 AM

alfus21 Wrote:Call me crazy, but I think the game of basketball and it's players have changed since the days of Rupp.

Reading into it to much man. Just saying that pretty much ALL Coaches at KY have always had some KY boys on the team and be successful. Why can't Tubby do it?

happyface · 01-06-2007, 10:33 AM

Find a coach from the state of Kentucky and you will get Kentucky players.

**OffTheHook** · 01-06-2007, 11:09 AM

happyface Wrote:Find a coach from the state of Kentucky and you will get Kentucky players.

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

01-06-2007, 01:05 PM

All the players shouldnt be from KY but at least like 4 or 5...I mean come on

**alfus21** · 01-06-2007, 08:02 PM

happyface Wrote:Find a coach from the state of Kentucky and you will get Kentucky players.

And you will lose about every game too.

**Hamburger** · 01-06-2007, 08:19 PM

Well we could win the NIT instead of going out in the first or second round of the Ncaa

happyface · 01-06-2007, 11:40 PM

I'll say this about Tubby, if he can't recruit he must be a great coach to win 20 games a year. Check his resume out versus some of the so called great coaches now. Our kids as a whole do not love the game. And where I live no one plays except the kids. Whatever happen to the older guys that could play, they taught the younger guys how to play. Now they play against each other all the time and don't get the competition they need. Like I said in a earlier post, playstations, cell phones, internet and drugs has killed the game as we know it.

**Hamburger** · 01-06-2007, 11:44 PM

happyface Wrote:I'll say this about Tubby, if he can't recruit he must be a great coach to win 20 games a year. Check his resume out versus some of the so called great coaches now. Our kids as a whole do not love the game. And where I live no one plays except the kids. Whatever happen to the older guys that could play, they taught the younger guys how to play. Now they play against each other all the time and don't get the competition they need. Like I said in a earlier post, playstations, cell phones, internet and drugs has killed the game as we know it.

Ill agree with you..This is very true...Nobody plays ball anymore at the parks like they use to...Which all the Drugs in KY isnt helping either

Doc Holliday · 01-07-2007, 12:24 AM

alfus21 Wrote:Call me crazy, but I think the game of basketball and it's players have changed since the days of Rupp.

True

But I think you all need to look at some of the players that Rupp recruited, you may be surprised that he didnt just have boys from the bluegrass.
Alex Groza, Jim Line, Bill Spivey, Bob Burrow, Pat Riley, Cotton Nash, louis Dampier, Dan Issel, Mike Pratt, Kevin Greavy were all recruited by Rupp, and they were College All Americans.

The last 4 All Americans Rupp had, were all from somewhere other than Ky.

**Hamburger** · 01-07-2007, 12:29 AM

Honestly I know UK wouldnt win to much but I think every School should only be able to get players from there state...Thats what I think tho, What do u all think about that ?

allthewayhome · 01-07-2007, 01:20 AM

RivalsKing Wrote:Honestly I know UK wouldnt win to much but I think every School should only be able to get players from there state...Thats what I think tho, What do u all think about that ?

idk about that but i think each school should at least get their mr. basketball

happyface · 01-07-2007, 02:29 PM

I agree because we should at least recruit our Mr. Basketball and out top 5 to 10 players, but you still need the 6'5 to 6'8 athletes to compete against the top programs in the country and we don't have many of those. We have a lot of 6'3 guys that's forced to play in the post because of the lack of big guys, so those 6'3 guys never get to develop and outside game that might would get them a shot at a D1 school not just UK. EKU, WKU, Morehead, and Murray.

allthewayhome · 01-07-2007, 05:40 PM

yeah we do need taller and stronger players but that is what out of state recruiting is for to get the players you don't have

**Hamburger** · 01-08-2007, 04:38 AM

We seem to get the out of state players that cant play tho lol

**OffTheHook** · 01-08-2007, 10:03 AM

RivalsKing Wrote:We seem to get the out of state players that cant play tho lol

LOL! TRUE, So why even leave the state to get those guys. At least the in state boys have alittle pride about them.

**Hamburger** · 01-08-2007, 02:18 PM

OffTheHook Wrote:LOL! TRUE, So why even leave the state to get those guys. At least the in state boys have alittle pride about them.

Yea no kidding

happyface · 01-08-2007, 02:51 PM

Once again Tubby wins 20+ games a year with guys who can't play must be a great coach. He has dominated the SEC since he's been there. I'm not a big Tubby fan but I can't argue his sucess. To assume that his players don't have any pride is not fair. Bring any of those guys to play against your local high school star and you would see a huge difference. Get our boys to the gyms and parks during the off season and off the internet and playstations and we might have a chance with the next generation.