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Prestonsburg 2024
#91
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Whats the benefit of taking the first week after dead period off?
#92
(06-26-2024, 09:37 PM)Waitaminute Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Whats the benefit of taking the first week after dead period off?


3 teams that do it made it to state championship game last year.............
#93
(06-26-2024, 09:41 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:37 PM)Waitaminute Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Whats the benefit of taking the first week after dead period off?


3 teams that do it made it to state championship game last year.............

Who were they?
#94
(06-26-2024, 09:41 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:37 PM)Waitaminute Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Whats the benefit of taking the first week after dead period off?


3 teams that do it made it to state championship game last year.............
Belfry used to do the same. Not sure if they do it still. They’d start a week after the KHSAA allowed practices. Never hurt them. It’s nearly a 5 month season if you start on July 10 and make it to the state finals.
#95
(06-26-2024, 09:26 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:14 PM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 08:55 PM)TE#82 Wrote: It's going to be funny when these kids go to these other schools and their parents can't run the program.. Hager and his staff don't need the distractions from these parents and kids who think they are above the program.. whatever happened to challenging yourself and others on the team to get better. Be the new era of pburg football. But I guess it's easier when mommy and daddy just take them and go somewhere else. IMO they shouldn't be eligible
That generation of kids is gone. Why would you go through a 2-9, 3-8 season when you can go 15 mins down the road and compete for championships
Exactly what kind of championship are you talking about? Definitely not a state championship. District? Don’t really know the rosters of both but didn’t Betsy Layne graduate a special senior class? Are they expected to be able to compete for a region championship this year? Can they be a top 10 2A team this year? I don’t get why the kids are leaving? Brewer was the blame before but now he’s gone and kids are still leaving so maybe he wasn’t as big of a problem as they said. I wonder if they would be leaving if Pburg would have hired the coach from Pikeville.
With the additions to the roster, Betsy Layne should be considered the favorite in their district. They also have a strong chance of making the regional championship round with the sister district being down this year.
#96
(06-27-2024, 12:03 AM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:26 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:14 PM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 08:55 PM)TE#82 Wrote: It's going to be funny when these kids go to these other schools and their parents can't run the program.. Hager and his staff don't need the distractions from these parents and kids who think they are above the program.. whatever happened to challenging yourself and others on the team to get better. Be the new era of pburg football. But I guess it's easier when mommy and daddy just take them and go somewhere else. IMO they shouldn't be eligible
That generation of kids is gone. Why would you go through a 2-9, 3-8 season when you can go 15 mins down the road and compete for championships
Exactly what kind of championship are you talking about? Definitely not a state championship. District? Don’t really know the rosters of both but didn’t Betsy Layne graduate a special senior class? Are they expected to be able to compete for a region championship this year? Can they be a top 10 2A team this year? I don’t get why the kids are leaving? Brewer was the blame before but now he’s gone and kids are still leaving so maybe he wasn’t as big of a problem as they said. I wonder if they would be leaving if Pburg would have hired the coach from Pikeville.
With the additions to the roster, Betsy Layne should be considered the favorite in their district. They also have a strong chance of making the regional championship round with the sister district being down this year.
Are all the new additions transfers from Pburg?
#97
(06-27-2024, 12:03 AM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:26 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:14 PM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 08:55 PM)TE#82 Wrote: It's going to be funny when these kids go to these other schools and their parents can't run the program.. Hager and his staff don't need the distractions from these parents and kids who think they are above the program.. whatever happened to challenging yourself and others on the team to get better. Be the new era of pburg football. But I guess it's easier when mommy and daddy just take them and go somewhere else. IMO they shouldn't be eligible
That generation of kids is gone. Why would you go through a 2-9, 3-8 season when you can go 15 mins down the road and compete for championships
Exactly what kind of championship are you talking about? Definitely not a state championship. District? Don’t really know the rosters of both but didn’t Betsy Layne graduate a special senior class? Are they expected to be able to compete for a region championship this year? Can they be a top 10 2A team this year? I don’t get why the kids are leaving? Brewer was the blame before but now he’s gone and kids are still leaving so maybe he wasn’t as big of a problem as they said. I wonder if they would be leaving if Pburg would have hired the coach from Pikeville.
With the additions to the roster, Betsy Layne should be considered the favorite in their district. They also have a strong chance of making the regional championship round with the sister district being down this year.
If Betsy Layne can keep Parsons and McCutcheon healthy then they can win district and compete for region as well. Bobcats will have arguably the best offensive line in the region and 3 really good skill players. Again, key will be keeping the two I mentioned above healthy. There’s no backup QB and really no backup RB option either.

Prestonsburg is deeper than BL at the skill positions, but the complete opposite on the line.
#98
(06-27-2024, 12:51 PM)BlackcatAlum Wrote:
(06-27-2024, 12:03 AM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:26 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:14 PM)Concerned_Blackcat Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 08:55 PM)TE#82 Wrote: It's going to be funny when these kids go to these other schools and their parents can't run the program.. Hager and his staff don't need the distractions from these parents and kids who think they are above the program.. whatever happened to challenging yourself and others on the team to get better. Be the new era of pburg football. But I guess it's easier when mommy and daddy just take them and go somewhere else. IMO they shouldn't be eligible
That generation of kids is gone. Why would you go through a 2-9, 3-8 season when you can go 15 mins down the road and compete for championships
Exactly what kind of championship are you talking about? Definitely not a state championship. District? Don’t really know the rosters of both but didn’t Betsy Layne graduate a special senior class? Are they expected to be able to compete for a region championship this year? Can they be a top 10 2A team this year? I don’t get why the kids are leaving? Brewer was the blame before but now he’s gone and kids are still leaving so maybe he wasn’t as big of a problem as they said. I wonder if they would be leaving if Pburg would have hired the coach from Pikeville.
With the additions to the roster, Betsy Layne should be considered the favorite in their district. They also have a strong chance of making the regional championship round with the sister district being down this year.
If Betsy Layne can keep Parsons and McCutcheon healthy then they can win district and compete for region as well. Bobcats will have arguably the best offensive line in the region and 3 really good skill players. Again, key will be keeping the two I mentioned above healthy. There’s no backup QB and really no backup RB option either.

Prestonsburg is deeper than BL at the skill positions, but the complete opposite on the line.
If they want to win it they better do it this year cause the big red machine is going to be in that district next year.
#99
(06-23-2024, 11:53 AM)pirateforlife Wrote: As an outsider with no inside knowledge of any of the Floyd County programs it’s crazy for me to think that kids leave Pburg for football to play at Betsy Layne. To me it’s about like if a kid left Belfry to go over and play at Pike Central. Pburg used to be on the level that Belfry, Pikeville, and Johnson Central are now. But that was a while ago and none of the kids in school now can remember those days. To them all they know is Betsy Layne has been the top team in Floyd. County. Heck I’m sure most of them don’t remember South Floyd and Allen central being a school. And why are they leaving without ever giving the new coach a shot? Do they not like him and the staff?
Prestonsburg used to be very good. And had several years where they were outstanding and legit title contenders. But they have never ever been on the level of Belfry/Pikeville in point in their program/school history in football consistently (more than a couple years at a time here and there).
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It would only be like belfry kids leaving for pike central if pike central beat them twice in a year.
Every head coach had to have a start somewhere. And unfortunately for Prestonsburg in its current state, it’s a great place for a young new head coach to begin his career.

The past few years Prestonsburg hasn’t been that high profile job; if it was, then you would’ve had some high profile candidates…the job would’ve recruited a coach itself instead of DrJudge making phone calls begging to apply.

I would just say, sit back, relax and enjoy the show and quit blaming other people for in house mistakes and take responsibility for your own actions.

Let Hager build his own program and legacy…support the kid….if anyone on here thought they could do the job then you should apply. If not, then keep your fingers off the keyboard.
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(07-04-2024, 04:26 PM)papabear02 Wrote: Every head coach had to have a start somewhere. And unfortunately for Prestonsburg in its current state, it’s a great place for a young new head coach to begin his career. 

The past few years Prestonsburg hasn’t been that high profile job; if it was, then you would’ve had some high profile candidates…the job would’ve recruited a coach itself instead of DrJudge making phone calls begging to apply. 

I would just say, sit back, relax and enjoy the show and quit blaming other people for in house mistakes and take responsibility for your own actions. 

Let Hager build his own program and legacy…support the kid….if anyone on here thought they could do the job then you should apply.  If not, then keep your fingers off the keyboard.
Fingers will be off the keyboards now because most of those guys will be too busy coaching this fall.
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.
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(07-05-2024, 09:02 AM)Westside Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.


So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:02 AM)Westside Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.


So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTW, don't ever mention my mom on any post ever again.
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(07-05-2024, 11:00 AM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:02 AM)Westside Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.


So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTE, don't ever meant my mom on any post ever again.
 Another reason why pburg is the worst head coaching job in Eastern ky.. I truely feel for wesley
(07-05-2024, 11:00 AM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:02 AM)Westside Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 05:48 PM)Waitaminute Wrote: I mean if the HC is going on vacation during the month of June outside of dead period time, can you blame the kids for leaving? One of those things if it doesn’t look important to him why would they wanna stay?

you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.


So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTE, don't ever meant my mom on any post ever again.


I see the picture just fine, a coach that probably had a summer vacation planned before he even took the job, went on vacation after school got out and before the season started, assigned volunteer workout plans to an assistant coach while he was gone.  

God forbid he have a life out side of football, a family, any other thoughts but football.
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(07-05-2024, 11:56 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:00 AM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:02 AM)Westside Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 09:31 PM)plantmanky Wrote: you must think taking the first week after dead period off is program suicide right?

Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.


So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTE, don't ever meant my mom on any post ever again.


I see the picture just fine, a coach that probably had a summer vacation planned before he even took the job, went on vacation after school got out and before the season started, assigned volunteer workout plans to an assistant coach while he was gone.  

God forbid he have a life out side of football, a family, any other thoughts but football.

Like I said, you are not smart enough to see the big picture.   If he didn't want the responsibilities of being the head coach, he should not have taken the job.
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(07-05-2024, 12:10 PM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:56 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:00 AM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:02 AM)Westside Wrote: Are you really having a hard time seeing the big picture here?  I think you are more intelligent than that.  It  would not have been a big deal if the entire team had taken off, but for the coach to abandon the team, go on vacation, and expect his team to continue give their blood, sweat, and tears while he is laying on the beach somewhere???  What kind of message does that send to his team, especially he being a first year coach?  How can he now expect the team to go all in?  He obviously isn't all in.  How can he expect the players to have any respect for him now?  It's sad.


So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTE, don't ever meant my mom on any post ever again.


I see the picture just fine, a coach that probably had a summer vacation planned before he even took the job, went on vacation after school got out and before the season started, assigned volunteer workout plans to an assistant coach while he was gone.  

God forbid he have a life out side of football, a family, any other thoughts but football.

Like I said, you are not smart enough to see the big picture.   If he didn't want the responsibilities of being the head coach, he should not have taken the job.


Being a Head Coach = cant take a vacation, got it. 


 You going to go after other head coaches that missed practices in June too?  I mean like state championship winning coaches, who missed practice taking kids to college campus for unofficial visits? Do they get the big picture, they missed practice.
(07-05-2024, 12:43 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 12:10 PM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:56 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:00 AM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote: So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTE, don't ever meant my mom on any post ever again.


I see the picture just fine, a coach that probably had a summer vacation planned before he even took the job, went on vacation after school got out and before the season started, assigned volunteer workout plans to an assistant coach while he was gone.  

God forbid he have a life out side of football, a family, any other thoughts but football.

Like I said, you are not smart enough to see the big picture.   If he didn't want the responsibilities of being the head coach, he should not have taken the job.


Being a Head Coach = cant take a vacation, got it. 


 You going to go after other head coaches that missed practices in June too?  I mean like state championship winning coaches, who missed practice taking kids to college campus for unofficial visits? Do they get the big picture, they missed practice.
They didn’t miss for vacation.
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(07-05-2024, 12:43 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 12:10 PM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:56 AM)plantmanky Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 11:00 AM)Westside Wrote:
(07-05-2024, 09:21 AM)plantmanky Wrote: So what you are saying, is that the new coach, cant trust his players, to continue on doing what they should to get ready for the season without him present, while the asst coaches run things.


or does momma still have to wipe your butt for you too........

I guess I was wrong, you really aren't smart enough to see the picture.  BTE, don't ever meant my mom on any post ever again.


I see the picture just fine, a coach that probably had a summer vacation planned before he even took the job, went on vacation after school got out and before the season started, assigned volunteer workout plans to an assistant coach while he was gone.  

God forbid he have a life out side of football, a family, any other thoughts but football.

Like I said, you are not smart enough to see the big picture.   If he didn't want the responsibilities of being the head coach, he should not have taken the job.


Being a Head Coach = cant take a vacation, got it. 


 You going to go after other head coaches that missed practices in June too?  I mean like state championship winning coaches, who missed practice taking kids to college campus for unofficial visits? Do they get the big picture, they missed practice.
You said the same shit a couple weeks ago and when was asked who.... you went crickets.
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What’s your alls opinion on the coaches and programs that give kids the last week of June before dead period off?

Boyle does

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