[nemo]

Simon Kenton, who just lost to Cov Cath 12-50 is at Beechwood this week. Not a big fan of comparing scores

Let’s hope Covington Catholic loses to Dixie heights & Beechwood and get Boyle vs Corbin in state championship

There's "a" chance Cov Cath loses to Beechwood on the road, zero chance they lose to Dixie at home.

Come season's end they'll have wins vs. three 6A and two 5A teams in their pockets.

OSH is spot on predicting the Colonels hosting four playoff games, and that'll be a long bus ride for opponents after Round 2.

:)

What, too strong? lol

:) After doing some thinking about it, Covington Catholic just needs to beat Beechwood and then be studying film and getting ready to see who they end up playing round 3. I do think CC goes undefeated after I watched them in person. One thing I like about Covington Catholic is they have the big tight end that can hold his own.

Cov Cath is going to get a chance to scout Beechwood this week when the Tigers play Simon Kenton, the team they just beat 50-12. Not a huge fan of comparing scores but it might give us an idea where things stand

I think Beechwood is down a bit this year, but still dangerous. Good news/bad news for CC. Good - Yes they'll have time to watch film, stay healthy and work on opening up the offense more. Bad - they're not going to be challenged much for the last two months of the season.

Agree on Rodriguez. No Michael Mayer, but as talented a TE/LB as maybe any one in the state.

[Old School Hound]

^ I agree. The only reason Corbin is even in the conversation is their three senior transfers, two of whom were magically granted a fifth year of eligibility by the KHSAA. Covington Catholic and Boyle County are still the teams to beat in 4A.

The only reason that Boyle and the CC are the teams to beat is because Corbin and Boyle are likely to meet in Round 3, giving Cath all but a free trip to Kroger. If the Northern KY Catholics came to Corbin they would have a damn mudhole stomped in their asses and then devoured by a couple of grizzlies. Corbin would win by three scores.

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For those of you who are excited that you will likely get to see Corbin and Boyle play each other two weeks earlier than anticipated and possibly even at the new $9.3 million  playpen of the Corbin grizzlies, there might be a fly in the ointment.

That fly is the Ashland Tomcats. If Ashland takes care of business and beats Boyd(A), JC(A), and Simon Kenton(H) to close the season undefeated, it's very possible they could have the #2 RPI, especially if Corbin and Boyle falters against Douglass. CC would likely dispatch of JC in round 2 and Ashland would emerge . along with Cov Cath, Corbin, and Boyle to fight it out in Round 3. #1 CC would face #3 or #4 Corbin/Boyle and #2 Ashland would face #3 or #4 Corbin or Boyle.  That is a scenario that could possibly produce a Corbin-Boyle championship game at Kroger Field. 

So, if you are still holding out hope  for a Corbin-Boyle encore at Kroger ,  you need to become an Ashland Blazer cheerleader...

GO TOMCATS !!! 

[HighViz]

I don’t really understand why it matters. The object is to win a trophy for Corbin. Why does it matter if we beat Boyle along the way. Why does it matter if we play them week 3 or week 5.
If I’m for Corbin winning a championship eventually. I don’t want them to play Boyle. We don’t match up well against Boyle, unless we can get 2 more 4 star corners that play both ways. Even then we would be lacking in overall team speed. Also lacking in coaching. Haddix and Leffew are better than Tommy and Bart anyday.

[Hound05]

I could foresee what I’ve deemed the “Tommy factor” to Cov cath. When you go undefeated but your schedule is weak! Covs schedule isn’t bad, but def isn’t good! As their fans have said, beechwood isn’t the typical beechwood from the past years. They’re young apparently and that’s probably the hardest team on their schedule. Normally not a bad thing. I wasn’t sold on highlands. I know some disagree, and that’s fine. What does help them though like you stated, the higher class schools. Our weak schedule had some lower class on it and it hurt, and showed. But as much as people hate on RPI every year, it’s been pretty accurate thus far, or pretty dang close (maybe switching 1 and 2 or 3 and 4). But usually the best at the end are in the championship. Hopefully it holds true.

[Hatz]

Stick a fork in Johnson Central, because they're done. Corbin has obviously always had one of the best programs in the state.

The best programs in the state produce great players and win championships. Corbin has a second tier program, which is better than most.

Top programs start from little kids up through Middle School. Corbin wins consistently  at all levels, and always have. They have one of the best programs in the state.

Yet, for more than 40 years they have not won a state title with players that they have developed in their own program. Now, we will see if they can win a title with players developed by other programs. How many more transfers would be needed before this Corbin team would be considered the favorites in a match-up against Boyle County?

So you’re telling me that Boyle County produces all their own football players?  How many more
transfers does Boyle County need to stay on top?  They have a stranglehold on a five county area.

boyle has titles in 1999, 2000, 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23. 

I would say the majority of those titles were won with Boyle County players.

[Old School Hound]

Right now, Cov. Cath's WP, OWP and OOWP are ridiculously good. For those unfamiliar with RPI, that's the three components that are in the algorithm for calculating RPI. WP=winning Percentage; OWP=Opponents Winning Percentage ; OOWP=Opponents Opponents Winning Percentage. The first two are weighted 35% of the RPI score and OOWP is rated 30%. Here's how the five schools I've referenced compare, in terms of WP, OWP, and OOWP.

Team / WP/ OWP/OOWP

1. COV Cath / 1.265208 / .897396 /.946934

2. Ashland/ .936019/ .927847/.604854

3. Corbin/ .934858/.630217/.512502

4. Boyle/ .837560/.565089/.647247

5. J. Central / .440908/.436323/.380178


As you can see. Cov Cath's numbers in all three measures are extremely high. Their opponents and their opponents' opponents are all winning, Now, over time, their OWP and OOWP will come down some but barring a loss or two, it won't be enough to dislodge them from the #1 spot. Ashland is very interesting. If they go in to Johnson Central and win and go undefeated on the season, it's possible, and even likely, they would finish #2.

Btw, I made a slight error in Corbin's RPI. It is 0.70153 , NOT 0.72403.

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Current RPI for these five schools after three weeks:
After 3 weeks ----


School/ RPI/ Points Behind Leader
1. Covington Catholic /  1.04087 /  ____

2. Ashland  /  0.83381 /    0.20706

3. Corbin /  0.70153  /  .33934

4. Boyle County / 0.68517 /  .35570

5. Johnson Central  / 0.42108 /  .61979

[pjdoug]

The best programs in the state produce great players and win championships. Corbin has a second tier program, which is better than most.

Top programs start from little kids up through Middle School. Corbin wins consistently  at all levels, and always have. They have one of the best programs in the state.

Yet, for more than 40 years they have not won a state title with players that they have developed in their own program. Now, we will see if they can win a title with players developed by other programs. How many more transfers would be needed before this Corbin team would be considered the favorites in a match-up against Boyle County?

So you’re telling me that Boyle County produces all their own football players?  How many more
transfers does Boyle County need to stay on top?  They have a stranglehold on a five county area.

boyle has titles in 1999, 2000, 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23. 

I would say the majority of those titles were won with Boyle County players.

[CC117]

I don’t remember transfers being much of a factor before 2021. I don’t think Coach Smith’s first championships here were won by bringing in kids from surrounding areas. I remember those teams being kids from here. I didn’t follow Boyle as closely when they won in 2009/2010 when Larry French was coach. I don’t remember much talk of transfers winning the 2017 title. I know Reese Smith was a big part of that team and he was a BC kid. 2020 we weren’t expected to do much during Haddix’s first year here when we won. I don’t personally remember transfers being much of a factor at BC prior to 2021

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Boyle did have Jagger Gillis come in 2020 from Anderson. I remembered that as soon as I posted my previous post. So it really started in 2020…

[Hatz]

I don’t remember transfers being much of a factor before 2021.  I don’t think Coach Smith’s first championships here were won by bringing in kids from surrounding areas.  I remember those teams being kids from here.  I didn’t follow Boyle as closely when they won in 2009/2010 when Larry French was coach.  I don’t remember much talk of transfers winning the 2017 title.  I know Reese Smith was a big part of that team and he was a BC kid.  2020 we weren’t expected to do much during Haddix’s first year here when we won.  I don’t personally remember transfers being much of a factor at BC prior to 2021

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Boyle did have Jagger Gillis come in 2020 from Anderson.  I remembered that as soon as I posted my previous post.  So it really started in 2020…

Gillis came because his mother married a Boyle County grad and BC resident. Not sure how much recruiting was involved there.

[Jack Lambert]

The best programs in the state produce great players and win championships. Corbin has a second tier program, which is better than most.

Top programs start from little kids up through Middle School. Corbin wins consistently  at all levels, and always have. They have one of the best programs in the state.

Yet, for more than 40 years they have not won a state title with players that they have developed in their own program. Now, we will see if they can win a title with players developed by other programs. How many more transfers would be needed before this Corbin team would be considered the favorites in a match-up against Boyle County?

So you’re telling me that Boyle County produces all their own football players?  How many more
transfers does Boyle County need to stay on top?  They have a stranglehold on a five county area.

boyle has titles in 1999, 2000, 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23. 

I would say the majority of those titles were won with Boyle County players.

You’re absolutely right Hatz , the impactful transfers didn’t have any effect until last couple of years starting with Gillis but he had already transferred to Boyle before Haddix was hired!!

[Hatz]

Top programs start from little kids up through Middle School. Corbin wins consistently  at all levels, and always have. They have one of the best programs in the state.

Yet, for more than 40 years they have not won a state title with players that they have developed in their own program. Now, we will see if they can win a title with players developed by other programs. How many more transfers would be needed before this Corbin team would be considered the favorites in a match-up against Boyle County?

So you’re telling me that Boyle County produces all their own football players?  How many more
transfers does Boyle County need to stay on top?  They have a stranglehold on a five county area.

boyle has titles in 1999, 2000, 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23. 

I would say the majority of those titles were won with Boyle County players.

You’re absolutely right Hatz , the impactful transfers didn’t have any effect until last year!!!

I can be wrong but I think Sage Dawson lived in the County when he played his first year at Danville. Jack or BE would know if I’m wrong.

[CC117]

Sage has always lived in BC that’s correct

[Jack Lambert]

I believe that the RPI will look quite different by seasons end, I believe a lot of those 5 and 6A schools on Cov Cath’s schedule will lose a lot of ball games.

Right now, Cov. Cath's WP, OWP and OOWP are ridiculously good. For those unfamiliar with RPI, that's the three components that are in the algorithm for calculating RPI. WP=winning Percentage; OWP=Opponents Winning Percentage ; OOWP=Opponents Opponents Winning Percentage. The first two are weighted 35% of the RPI score and OOWP is rated 30%. Here's how the five schools I've referenced compare, in terms of WP, OWP, and OOWP.

Team / WP/ OWP/OOWP

1. COV Cath / 1.265208 / .897396 /.946934

2. Ashland/ .936019/ .927847/.604854

3. Corbin/ .934858/.630217/.512502

4. Boyle/ .837560/.565089/.647247

5. J. Central / .440908/.436323/.380178


As you can see. Cov Cath's numbers in all three measures are extremely high. Their opponents and their opponents' opponents are all winning, Now, over time, their OWP and OOWP will come down some but barring a loss or two, it won't be enough to dislodge them from the #1 spot. Ashland is very interesting. If they go in to Johnson Central and win and go undefeated on the season, it's possible, and even likely, they would finish #2.

Btw, I made a slight error in Corbin's RPI. It is 0.70153 , NOT 0.72403.

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Current RPI for these five schools after three weeks:
After 3 weeks ----


School/ RPI/ Points Behind Leader
1. Covington Catholic /  1.04087 /  ____

2. Ashland  /  0.83381 /    0.20706

3. Corbin /  0.70153  /  .33934

4. Boyle County / 0.68517 /  .35570

5. Johnson Central  / 0.42108 /  .61979

[CC117]

Yea I wasn’t saying Gillis was recruited just that 20 was the first year I could remember transfers coming here & having an impact. He certainly did. He was a great qb

[Jack Lambert]

If Boyle wins out there’ll be no question who the #1 seed is at seasons end.

[Rebel55]

I don’t remember transfers being much of a factor before 2021.  I don’t think Coach Smith’s first championships here were won by bringing in kids from surrounding areas.  I remember those teams being kids from here.  I didn’t follow Boyle as closely when they won in 2009/2010 when Larry French was coach.  I don’t remember much talk of transfers winning the 2017 title.  I know Reese Smith was a big part of that team and he was a BC kid.  2020 we weren’t expected to do much during Haddix’s first year here when we won.  I don’t personally remember transfers being much of a factor at BC prior to 2021

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Boyle did have Jagger Gillis come in 2020 from Anderson.  I remembered that as soon as I posted my previous post.  So it really started in 2020…

Gillis came because his mother married a Boyle County grad and BC resident. Not sure how much recruiting was involved there.

100% true.  Again spot on Hatz.

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Yet, for more than 40 years they have not won a state title with players that they have developed in their own program. Now, we will see if they can win a title with players developed by other programs. How many more transfers would be needed before this Corbin team would be considered the favorites in a match-up against Boyle County?

So you’re telling me that Boyle County produces all their own football players?  How many more
transfers does Boyle County need to stay on top?  They have a stranglehold on a five county area.

boyle has titles in 1999, 2000, 01, 02, 03, 09, 10, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23. 

I would say the majority of those titles were won with Boyle County players.

You’re absolutely right Hatz , the impactful transfers didn’t have any effect until last year!!!

I can be wrong but I think Sage Dawson lived in the County when he played his first year at Danville. Jack or BE would know if I’m wrong.

Sage lived in Shelby Green (Junction City-Boyle school district) while attending Danville.  if anything he is going where he should go.

[Cowboy42]

Anyone have the link for checking RPI

You don’t need a link, waltz into the fieldhouse office of the Greerend and get that lip service hot and fresh that only Tommy can provide. True corbinites don’t worry about RPI, we worry about scheduling good teams and RPI takes care of itself..

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If Boyle wins out there’ll be no question who the #1 seed is at seasons end.

If IF was a 5th then a lot of people be drunk. Boyle is the #1 seed hands down. Re-visit post come December.

[IAM22]

I don’t remember transfers being much of a factor before 2021.  I don’t think Coach Smith’s first championships here were won by bringing in kids from surrounding areas.  I remember those teams being kids from here.  I didn’t follow Boyle as closely when they won in 2009/2010 when Larry French was coach.  I don’t remember much talk of transfers winning the 2017 title.  I know Reese Smith was a big part of that team and he was a BC kid.  2020 we weren’t expected to do much during Haddix’s first year here when we won.  I don’t personally remember transfers being much of a factor at BC prior to 2021

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Boyle did have Jagger Gillis come in 2020 from Anderson.  I remembered that as soon as I posted my previous post.  So it really started in 2020…

Gillis came because his mother married a Boyle County grad and BC resident. Not sure how much recruiting was involved there.

That is going all in for recruiting.......Every team needs their Alumni to be that committed to their school!!

[Cowboy42]

I don’t really understand why it matters.  The object is to win a trophy for Corbin. Why does it matter if we beat Boyle along the way.  Why does it matter if we play them week 3 or week 5.
If I’m for Corbin winning a championship eventually. I don’t want them to play Boyle.  We don’t match up well against Boyle, unless we can get 2 more 4 star corners that play both ways. Even then we would be lacking in overall team speed. Also lacking in coaching. Haddix and Leffew are better than Tommy and Bart anyday.

To be the best you need to beat the best. Playing a watered down schedule every year hasn’t helped us beat Boyle has it? Understand this if you’re a true Corbin fan you want Boyle county in the final. I’d rather lose in final against Boyle County as to win against a Franklin County who barely beats North Laurel last Friday. You ain’t on Tommy’s scheduling committee are you?

[HighViz]

If I was on Tommy’s scheduling committee my first order of business would be to schedule him to be back to Bell to retire. About the “D”

[Old School Hound]

I believe that the RPI will look quite different by seasons end, I believe a lot of those 5 and 6A schools on Cov Cath’s schedule will lose a lot of ball games.

Right now,  Cov. Cath's WP, OWP and OOWP are ridiculously good. For those unfamiliar with RPI, that's the three components that are in the algorithm for calculating RPI.  WP=winning Percentage; OWP=Opponents Winning Percentage ; OOWP=Opponents Opponents Winning Percentage. The first two are weighted 35% of the RPI score and OOWP is rated 30%.  Here's how the five schools I've referenced compare, in terms of WP, OWP, and OOWP.

Team /  WP/ OWP/OOWP

1. COV Cath / 1.265208 / .897396 /.946934

2. Ashland/  .936019/ .927847/.604854

3. Corbin/ .934858/.630217/.512502

4. Boyle/ .837560/.565089/.647247

5. J. Central / .440908/.436323/.380178


As you can see. Cov Cath's numbers in all three measures are extremely high. Their opponents and their opponents' opponents are all winning, Now, over time, their OWP and OOWP  will come down some but barring a loss or two, it won't be enough to dislodge them from the #1 spot. Ashland is very interesting. If they go in to Johnson Central and win and go undefeated on the season, it's possible, and even likely,  they would finish #2.

Btw, I made a slight error in Corbin's RPI. It is 0.70153 , NOT 0.72403.

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Current RPI for these five schools after three weeks:
After 3 weeks ----


School/ RPI/ Points Behind Leader
1. Covington Catholic /  1.04087 /  ____

2. Ashland  /  0.83381 /    0.20706

3. Corbin /  0.70153  /  .33934

4. Boyle County / 0.68517 /  .35570

5. Johnson Central  / 0.42108 /  .61979

Yeah, Jack, CC's OWP and OOWP will definitely come down. Just about all of their opponents  and OO have won thus far. It's definitely skewed. Unless they lose a game, though, I don't know if it will come down enough to dislodge them from the top. Only time will tell. I hope Corbin and Boyle don't have to meet in round 3, though I fear it will happen. I'd like to see an encore from last season's great game at Kroger.

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Anyone have the link for checking RPI

You don’t need a link, waltz into the fieldhouse office of the Greerend and get that lip service hot and fresh that only Tommy can provide. True corbinites don’t worry about RPI, we worry about scheduling good teams and RPI takes care of itself..

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If Boyle wins out there’ll be no question who the #1 seed is at seasons end.

If IF was a 5th then a lot of people be drunk. Boyle is the #1 seed hands down. Re-visit post come December.

If Boyle wins out they will be the best team, imo. But they won't necessarily have the #1 RPI. Best team and best RPI do not always go together.

[jetpilot]

4A is the most interesting class this year by far IMO...hoping the Redhounds end the drought and they are more than capable...

[Jack Lambert]

I believe that the RPI will look quite different by seasons end, I believe a lot of those 5 and 6A schools on Cov Cath’s schedule will lose a lot of ball games.

Right now,  Cov. Cath's WP, OWP and OOWP are ridiculously good. For those unfamiliar with RPI, that's the three components that are in the algorithm for calculating RPI.  WP=winning Percentage; OWP=Opponents Winning Percentage ; OOWP=Opponents Opponents Winning Percentage. The first two are weighted 35% of the RPI score and OOWP is rated 30%.  Here's how the five schools I've referenced compare, in terms of WP, OWP, and OOWP.

Team /  WP/ OWP/OOWP

1. COV Cath / 1.265208 / .897396 /.946934

2. Ashland/  .936019/ .927847/.604854

3. Corbin/ .934858/.630217/.512502

4. Boyle/ .837560/.565089/.647247

5. J. Central / .440908/.436323/.380178


As you can see. Cov Cath's numbers in all three measures are extremely high. Their opponents and their opponents' opponents are all winning, Now, over time, their OWP and OOWP  will come down some but barring a loss or two, it won't be enough to dislodge them from the #1 spot. Ashland is very interesting. If they go in to Johnson Central and win and go undefeated on the season, it's possible, and even likely,  they would finish #2.

Btw, I made a slight error in Corbin's RPI. It is 0.70153 , NOT 0.72403.

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Current RPI for these five schools after three weeks:
After 3 weeks ----


School/ RPI/ Points Behind Leader
1. Covington Catholic /  1.04087 /  ____

2. Ashland  /  0.83381 /    0.20706

3. Corbin /  0.70153  /  .33934

4. Boyle County / 0.68517 /  .35570

5. Johnson Central  / 0.42108 /  .61979

Yeah, Jack, CC's OWP and OOWP will definitely come down. Just about all of their opponents  and OO have won thus far. It's definitely skewed. Unless they lose a game, though, I don't know if it will come down enough to dislodge them from the top. Only time will tell. I hope Corbin and Boyle don't have to meet in round 3, though I fear it will happen. I'd like to see an encore from last season's great game at Kroger.

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Anyone have the link for checking RPI

You don’t need a link, waltz into the fieldhouse office of the Greerend and get that lip service hot and fresh that only Tommy can provide. True corbinites don’t worry about RPI, we worry about scheduling good teams and RPI takes care of itself..

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If Boyle wins out there’ll be no question who the #1 seed is at seasons end.

If IF was a 5th then a lot of people be drunk. Boyle is the #1 seed hands down. Re-visit post come December.

If Boyle wins out they will be the best team, imo. But they won't necessarily have the #1 RPI. Best team and best RPI do not always go together.

We’ll have to agree to disagree, IMO Cov Cath’s schedule is definitely weaker than Boyle’s and Corbin’s Beechwood is definitely the best team that they will play in the regular season and they’re a 1A school I still believe that Boyle and Corbin will be the top seeds at seasons end.

[Old School Hound]

4A is the most interesting class this year by far IMO...hoping the Redhounds end the drought and they are more than capable...

Jet. last time my Hounds won a state title I looked like Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues:


[Image: https://sacharts.files.wordpress.com/202...ward-1.jpg]


Now I look like Leif Garrett after an all-night bender and w/o the Willy Nelson locks:


[Image: https://scontent.fosu2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...e=651E9335]

It's been a long, long drought.  GO HOUNDS !!! before I look like this :


[Image: https://media.gq.com/photos/565c619649ad...rds-sq.jpg]

[Cowboy42]

4A is the most interesting class this year by far IMO...hoping the Redhounds end the drought and they are more than capable...

Jet. last time my Hounds won a state title I looked like Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues:


[Image: https://sacharts.files.wordpress.com/202...ward-1.jpg]


Now I look like Leif Garrett after an all-night bender and w/o the Willy Nelson locks:


[Image: https://scontent.fosu2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...e=651E9335]

It's been a long, long drought.  GO HOUNDS !!! before I look like this :


[Image: https://media.gq.com/photos/565c619649ad...rds-sq.jpg]

Please remind us how you feel once Frederick Douglass departs the sacred grounds of Campbell Field on 9/15/23. Just finished breakfast with the wise men and a question was asked, will our stadium be done by 9/15 for FD? I said of course it’ll be done, guy rolls his eyes and said you sure about that? Not exactly sure what he was alluding to but I didn’t like the sound of it regardless.

[pjdoug]

In 1982 there was a long line of people on the sidewalk outside Lane Theater in Williamsburg, waiting to see E.T.

[Old School Hound]

In 1982 there was a long line of people on the sidewalk outside Lane Theater in Williamsburg, waiting to see E.T.

In '82  P J was standing in line to watch E.T. ;  I was in the E.R. trying to get rid of V.D. ; now I'm just sitting at home alone because of my E.D.

[Bull got out!]

In 1982 there was a long line of people on the sidewalk outside Lane Theater in Williamsburg, waiting to see E.T.

In '82  P J was standing in line to watch E.T. ;  I was in the E.R. trying to get rid of V.D. ; now I'm just sitting at home alone because of my E.D.

[pjdoug]

In 1982 there was a long line of people on the sidewalk outside Lane Theater in Williamsburg, waiting to see E.T.

In '82  P J was standing in line to watch E.T. ;  I was in the E.R. trying to get rid of V.D. ; now I'm just sitting at home alone because of my E.D.

I'm glad I chose E.T over Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

[pjdoug]

1982 was a great year for movies. An Officer and a Gentleman, Empire Strikes Back, First Blood, 48 Hours, Modern Problems. On Golden Pond, Poltergeist, Porky's, Rocky 3, The Toy and many others.