[smoke1015]

After about 16 seasons. Nice stuff doesn’t help you when Friday night. Hardwork helps you win. A sled or equipment for training helps. A coach to guide them would be the start to getting kids out they leave because of the poor coaching. The coach 2010-2012 couldn’t coach a shoe box. The coach 16-18 had a load of talent and couldn’t control it and hasn’t resulted well anywhere else 3 schools and hasn’t done anything well. Then going to the current coach the principals husband of the high school. No high school coaching experience and hasn’t done Jack in four years with 17 running clocks put on his teams.

First would be to buy into a coach that knows how to coach high schoolers.
No one cares about cool uniforms until you win. Win games and show dedication with a coach who knows what they are doing mccreary would improve. Then would support should be there. The wrestling team had a solid coach who won region coach of the year and produced nice results plenty of trophy’s and wins. The wrestling room is embarrassing in size maybe the size of a classroom. The coaching was there and the kids followed in. Same results would happen for football. Not expecting world beaters but those kids should be competitive with other 3A teams

McCreary in 16-17 had enough talent to end up in a regional final type of matchup against Corbin or someone, or Bell maybe. They would not have beat those 2 teams, but they had the talent to be just a notch below those type of teams, but the talent they had they should have been at the top of the mid tier teams, and tons above the bottom teams. They had talent that was in the "very good" category those years. Their offense was almost unstoppable on certain nights unless  you were a true contender. I remember those teams, the kid called "Porky". Dude was a huge middle linebacker.

I agree team came out and played Perry central great and they were up 40-26 I think with around 8 mins or less and after that the team just fell apart besides a come back win against 6A PLD. But we couldn’t stop anyone Casey scored 70 and bell scored 75. Not to mention Jackson. I really feel mccreary should have made a decent run that season with a playoff victory but that season fell apart about as soon as it started

Yes sir, I did film on that Casey game, my son was the right tackle for Casey. But we couldn't stop you guys from scoring. Yeah we scored a ton as well, but our coach told us it's a good thing because he couldn't stop McCreary from scoring. I think you guys put up nearly 40 in that same game. I just know Coach STonebraker said it was harder to stop McCreary offense than Bell that year. We defeated Bell at their place something like 45 to 35 or something like that. You guys put up more points that a dang Dudley coached Bell team.

[GreyStoke]

This thread is either being directed by a sophomore who is 5’8”; 275; runs a 5.7 forty yard dash….who could be a dynamic QB/RB if the coaches would just give him a chance like his LL coaches did when he was the same size in fifth grade; HIS DAD; or that youth coach who wants the job!

Get involved; be a voice that brings answers and solutions; not problems to the discussion.  And if a new coach is in order- be respectful to the kids and team in general and wait til the season is over to PUBLICLY bash your program, school, and coaches.

Every program where this BS happens is the same cookie cutter of under performance; makes me laugh.

^ 
Say it louder for the people in the back.

[pjdoug]

When you lift weights two or three days a week during off season it’s a coach problem. When you take off practices to play powder puff it’s a coach problem. When the team doesn’t have sleds but purchase a golf cart it’s a admin/ coach problem. When your team has a ton of personal fouls it’s a coach problem and it has been that way for the last two coaches no control.  Plus both games they won didn’t hardly try to work on depth they ran up the score throwing the ball all the way to end of the game again coaching problem. The one coach that was showing promise and improvement is hated by the principal and I listened to a conversation between him and the principal and she was not very professional been a little over ten years is fact .  Then that same coach took over the defense in 2018 and mccreary almost pulled a huge upset against breathitt. Point is first issue at hand is COACHING needs fixed then followed by support. Need to  win a game here and there to get any support.

ALMOST pulled a huge upset against a mediocre team? lol

Yes againist a  decent breathitt team which would have been a huge upset for mccreary central considering they started 1-9 that season and it would have been huge to get a win like that for the raider program

They weren't decent. They got blown out in the following game.

I agree with you on that they got blown out  by bell county .. the same bell county that blew out a Whitley county team by running clock that year.

Whitley County has nothing to do with it. They dont brag about almost beating a mediocre team. Nice attempt.

[pjdoug]

Whitley is no Breathitt- historically!  So, beating Whitley is no accomplishment- right?

We don't go on historically. Breathitt County hasn't done anything in decades.

[ROTC]

No, Breathitt hasn’t won a state title since 2002. Do, that is in fact-“decades” They have had some good teams since and made some playoff runs, but no hardware in decades. When was Whitley’s last state title? I can’t remember.

Anyway, this thread is bad. Wait a couple weeks before starting these threads is my belief.

[pjdoug]

Fire Privett!  Not beaten a team that is ranked above 0.1.    Let him , take his golf cart with him!

Soon , you will be wanting to fire the next coach. lol

[pjdoug]

No, Breathitt hasn’t won a state title since 2002.  Do, that is in fact-“decades”  They have had some good teams since and made some playoff runs, but no hardware in decades.  When was Whitley’s last state title?  I can’t remember.

Anyway, this thread is bad.  Wait a couple weeks before starting these threads is my belief.

Whitley County has as many championships and has had better teams in the last 20 years. Come back to the future. lol

[ROTC]

Only if you come with me and we get to ride in a Delorean

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No, Breathitt hasn’t won a state title since 2002.  Do, that is in fact-“decades”  They have had some good teams since and made some playoff runs, but no hardware in decades.  When was Whitley’s last state title?  I can’t remember.

Anyway, this thread is bad.  Wait a couple weeks before starting these threads is my belief.

Whitley County has as many championships and has had better teams in the last 20 years. Come back to the future. lol

I just reviewed the list of state champions in Ky football.  Help me out, because I couldn’t find Whitley’s three…. LOL

[DukeBoy]

McCreary needs a total revamp. Entire school system Id say. If you are going to offer sports programs, you MUST try to be competitive and try to win. Pay coaches what they deserve and reward them for winning. I think this should be at every school. The more a coach wins, the more money he or she makes.

[ROTC]

Preach it louder!

Slap the pulpit!

Wipe sweat for your brow and squall out right loud and preach or some more!!!

[pjdoug]

Only if you come with me and we get to ride in a Delorean

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No, Breathitt hasn’t won a state title since 2002.  Do, that is in fact-“decades”  They have had some good teams since and made some playoff runs, but no hardware in decades.  When was Whitley’s last state title?  I can’t remember.

Anyway, this thread is bad.  Wait a couple weeks before starting these threads is my belief.

Whitley County has as many championships and has had better teams in the last 20 years. Come back to the future. lol

I just reviewed the list of state champions in Ky football.  Help me out, because I couldn’t find Whitley’s three…. LOL

You're still hanging on to the 90's. Come back to reality. You're in the 2020's now.

[ROTC]

I’m not hanging on to anything. Like I said Breathitt’s last title was in 2002. I am very well aware of that. YOU were the one who said Whitley had as many championships as Breathitt. I was just having trouble remembering when they were. LOL

HANGING ON IS FOR POSSUMS AND MONKEYS! Forward is better!

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Also, though- let me be very clear. The ONLY time I ever saw Whitley play in person; they could have beaten the team I was rooting for by 100. BUT- they were coached by a very classy gentleman and DID NOT, and the folks from Whitley were super nice. So, I ain’t hating on Whitley!

I do hate “fire the coach” threads before the season even ends!!!

[Unbeaten55]

Hate all you want.. why wait til tomorrow to fix the problem if a leader is not doing their job. Fix it then. If they are the problem there is someone else to do their job. That is fact.

[ROTC]

No, it’s an opinion. Facts are measurable proofs. I don’t know their coach from Adam; but I’d wager the problems there are deeper than JUST the head coach. HS is not college or pro. Threads like this hurt the kids more than they help anything. If you feel this strongly about it go to the man himself and have this conversation. Don’t hide on this site which is meant to be fun and for us trolls to be silly. Just my opinion; nothing factual is contained herein.

[64SUR]

This thread pops up every year by the same person. With that said get behind the program!!!

[Unbeaten55]

No, it’s an opinion.  Facts are measurable proofs.  I don’t know their coach from Adam; but I’d wager the problems there are deeper than JUST the head coach.  HS is not college or pro.  Threads like this hurt the kids more than they help anything.  If you feel this strongly about it  go to the man himself and have this conversation.  Don’t hide on this site which is meant to be fun and for us trolls to be silly.  Just my opinion; nothing factual is contained herein.

I have spoke my opinion I don’t hide they all know who I am. Because I have spoke to the other coaches who worked for the dude or with him. Glad you have your little opinion with zero leadership experience. Or knowledge of the program. So please correct someone else when get some experience. You have been wrong at your guessing game the whole way lol

[ROTC]

I don’t remember correcting anyone. Just sharing my little opinions. I have enough leadership experience to know there is a sure fire cookie cutter path to mediocrity or loserville, and most programs that find themselves there, do the same things. It’s usually a community mentality rather than the product of any one person’s efforts or failures.

[Unbeaten55]

I don’t remember correcting anyone.  Just sharing my little opinions.  I have enough leadership experience to know there is a sure fire cookie cutter path to mediocrity or loserville, and most programs that find themselves there, do the same things.  It’s usually a community mentality rather than the product of any one person’s efforts or failures.

One person can change the whole group it’s contagious and I that is for sure. Not a few hundreds of people can be affected by one person and their mentality. I can say it trough fact of an organization that is much larger and requires it. But it takes actual experience to know that and bring real life experience to those kids and that community. But don’t mind me I’m sure I don’t have the experience of leading others lol

[ROTC]

Honestly, I don’t think we disagree as much as you think we do. OBVIOUSLY, one man can be great and create a culture. Like say Heywood at Belfry. But what if Belfry had said- years ago- we don’t care about winning; you can’t let these kids that wanna come here enroll; you can’t have in school weight lifting; we aren’t gonna hire you any good assistants; you’re gonna coach for a $1,500 stipend; or someone else will. I’ve seen those BELFRY CRAZIES at state championships wearing those: FAITH, FAMILY, FOOTBALL hoodies. Yes, Heywood built that, but the community wanted it and embraced it and allowed that culture to grow.

[OldBallCoach1]

This will not be the only job opening in the 12th Region it looks like. I can see as many as 5 open. Question though, who goes for these jobs?

[Walt Longmire]

This will not be the only job opening in the 12th Region it looks like. I can see as many as 5 open. Question though, who goes for these jobs?

(Possibly) McCreary Co, Danville, East Jessamine and ???

[papagrit]

This thread pops up every year by the same person.  With that said get behind the program!!!

Though I hate to agree with a person who's avatar is able to hold out his arm ONLY because he is on a Viagra fix ....I agree with SUR....Same guy about every year starts something on here about McCreary's coaching staff unless it's his kinfolk/buddy coaching at the time.  Been doing it for over a decade now going back to the Coach Gay and Watts era at McCreary in 2009/2010.  Too much politics in a rural area and about like the Game of Thrones situation for coaching/superintendent/principal/teacher jobs at McCreary.  "Get behind the kids" was said back in 2010.  Only the kids suffer threads like this when the coach is dogged during the season.  Doesn't help at all.

[Unbeaten55]

This thread pops up every year by the same person.  With that said get behind the program!!!

Though I hate to agree with a person who's avatar is able to hold out his arm ONLY because he is on a Viagra fix ....I agree with SUR....Same guy about every year starts something on here about McCreary's coaching staff unless it's his kinfolk/buddy coaching at the time.  Been doing it for over a decade now going back to the Coach Gay and Watts era at McCreary in 2009/2010.  Too much politics in a rural area and about like the Game of Thrones situation for coaching/superintendent/principal/teacher jobs at McCreary.  "Get behind the kids" was said back in 2010.  Only the kids suffer threads like this when the coach is dogged during the season.  Doesn't help at all.

I want say it’s been around 3 or 4 years since there has been a thread on this. It is about politics there to even get a job above poverty. So is the coaching for the football team always family. Never a solid outside hire. It doesn’t take a thread you know when you coach/leader isn’t getting it done. Maybe the coach will step down and ride his golf cart into the sunset

[pjdoug]

I’m not hanging on to anything.  Like I said Breathitt’s last title was in 2002.  I am very well aware of that.  YOU were the one who said Whitley had as many championships as Breathitt.  I was just having trouble remembering when they were.  LOL

HANGING ON IS FOR POSSUMS AND MONKEYS!  Forward is better!

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Also, though- let me be very clear.  The ONLY time I ever saw Whitley play in person; they could have beaten the team I was rooting for by 100.  BUT- they were coached by a very classy gentleman and DID NOT, and the folks from Whitley were super nice.  So, I ain’t hating on Whitley!

I do hate “fire the coach” threads before the season even ends!!!

I said Whitley County has as many championships as Breathitt County does in the last twenty years. Try to pay attention  . Sometimes coaches need fired, but at least give them a couple years. lol. I agree that usually politics is the problem instead of the coach.

[pjdoug]

If McCreary County gets a new coach, Who will it be? A person that you've never heard of ,and will want to fire next year?

[pjdoug]

This thread pops up every year by the same person.  With that said get behind the program!!!

Can you get them a good coach and some All-State players? lol

[pjdoug]

Hate all you want.. why wait til tomorrow to fix the problem if a leader is not doing their job. Fix it then. If they are the problem there is someone else to do their job. That is fact.

I think You are their main problem

[pjdoug]

I don’t remember correcting anyone.  Just sharing my little opinions.  I have enough leadership experience to know there is a sure fire cookie cutter path to mediocrity or loserville, and most programs that find themselves there, do the same things.  It’s usually a community mentality rather than the product of any one person’s efforts or failures.

I know what it takes to build a winning program, but the politics at most schools around here, including mine have never allowed it what it takes.

[pjdoug]

This thread pops up every year by the same person.  With that said get behind the program!!!

Though I hate to agree with a person who's avatar is able to hold out his arm ONLY because he is on a Viagra fix ....I agree with SUR....Same guy about every year starts something on here about McCreary's coaching staff unless it's his kinfolk/buddy coaching at the time.  Been doing it for over a decade now going back to the Coach Gay and Watts era at McCreary in 2009/2010.  Too much politics in a rural area and about like the Game of Thrones situation for coaching/superintendent/principal/teacher jobs at McCreary.  "Get behind the kids" was said back in 2010.  Only the kids suffer threads like this when the coach is dogged during the season.  Doesn't help at all.

I want say it’s been around 3 or 4 years since there has been a thread on this. It is about politics there to even get a job above poverty. So is the coaching for the football team always family. Never a solid outside hire. It doesn’t take a thread you know when you coach/leader isn’t getting it done. Maybe the coach will step down and ride his golf cart into the sunset

Do you think the rural area with no incorporated citiesprevent A good coach from the outside from coming in? That and all the politics? Some people like convenience more than others I guess.

[pjdoug]

This thread pops up every year by the same person.  With that said get behind the program!!!

Though I hate to agree with a person who's avatar is able to hold out his arm ONLY because he is on a Viagra fix ....I agree with SUR....Same guy about every year starts something on here about McCreary's coaching staff unless it's his kinfolk/buddy coaching at the time.  Been doing it for over a decade now going back to the Coach Gay and Watts era at McCreary in 2009/2010.  Too much politics in a rural area and about like the Game of Thrones situation for coaching/superintendent/principal/teacher jobs at McCreary.  "Get behind the kids" was said back in 2010.  Only the kids suffer threads like this when the coach is dogged during the season.  Doesn't help at all.

I want say it’s been around 3 or 4 years since there has been a thread on this. It is about politics there to even get a job above poverty. So is the coaching for the football team always family. Never a solid outside hire. It doesn’t take a thread you know when you coach/leader isn’t getting it done. Maybe the coach will step down and ride his golf cart into the sunset

Let me know if the golf cart comes up for sale