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Wayne County 63 Corbin 49
#91
Danielbellcounty50 Wrote:I picked Wayne county to win 28-27, you can go back and look on the predictions thread, Wayne county has a heck of football team led by there running back. The better team won. Wayne county has built up a nice program, congrats to Wayne county on the win and congrats to Corbin on hard fought season!!

I have a young relative on the Corbin team. I think he'll be a dandy, especially in another couple of seasons. Corbin with a lot of talent loss has still done pretty well moving up to 4A. Last year they out physicalled what was supposed to be the much better team, Boyle County team and sent them home during BIG BOY football time. I still say they were the better team than Central, just made some very suspect coaching decisions at critical times, or at least me being an armchair coach (kick the ball!). Wayne has a solid team. Johnson Central has maybe the most physical style, along with Belfry, in the state. Next week the games really really start getting fun. But this week was some of the best 2nd round games I've seen, or heard of. I was at the Somerset game and that thing was a barn burner, and went right to the wire.
#92
smoke1015 Wrote:I have a young relative on the Corbin team. I think he'll be a dandy, especially in another couple of seasons. Corbin with a lot of talent loss has still done pretty well moving up to 4A. Last year they out physicalled what was supposed to be the much better team, Boyle County team and sent them home during BIG BOY football time. I still say they were the better team than Central, just made some very suspect coaching decisions at critical times, or at least me being an armchair coach (kick the ball!). Wayne has a solid team. Johnson Central has maybe the most physical style, along with Belfry, in the state. Next week the games really really start getting fun. But this week was some of the best 2nd round games I've seen, or heard of. I was at the Somerset game and that thing was a barn burner, and went right to the wire.

So Corbin was still "better than Central" at full strength but Boyle Co wasn't better than Corbin at no where near full strength? Got it.

Clueless. 😂
#93
smoke1015 Wrote:I have a young relative on the Corbin team. I think he'll be a dandy, especially in another couple of seasons. Corbin with a lot of talent loss has still done pretty well moving up to 4A. Last year they out physicalled what was supposed to be the much better team, Boyle County team and sent them home during BIG BOY football time. I still say they were the better team than Central, just made some very suspect coaching decisions at critical times, or at least me being an armchair coach (kick the ball!). Wayne has a solid team. Johnson Central has maybe the most physical style, along with Belfry, in the state. Next week the games really really start getting fun. But this week was some of the best 2nd round games I've seen, or heard of. I was at the Somerset game and that thing was a barn burner, and went right to the wire.

There isn’t any thinking about it. That kid WILL be special!! If he puts the work in. And knowing his fam I think he will. He’s always been a good, hard working kid. Not many freshman QBs could do what he did. It’s a big learning curve from middle school to HS, and he had his growing pains, all do. But he progressed great throughout the season. And he’s got one of the best QB coaches around in haddix to help him.
#94
FoSho Wrote:So Corbin was still "better than Central" at full strength but Boyle Co wasn't better than Corbin at no where near full strength? Got it.

Clueless. ��

I hope it's obvious by now my comments don't revolve around the Boyle county football team. BIG BOY time came, and went, and is back again. From one season to the next, it is gonna vary a bit who is ready to step up, who suffers a catastrophic key injury. I'm not sure what you mean about Corbin at full strength being better than Central. As far as I know both those teams, at BIG BOY time, were full strength and Corbin's kids out played Central most of the night, but a couple of "gutsy calls" cost those young men a state championship. For a subject you said you had dropped at least 15 comments ago...I'm thinking I'm not the one that is "clueless". Support your team and athletes, but don't get so emotional if someone has a differing opinion in specific teams and athletes. Especially when they aren't doing it in a disrespectful way. There's your advice, or clue, if you will.
#95
Hound05 Wrote:There isn’t any thinking about it. That kid WILL be special!! If he puts the work in. And knowing his fam I think he will. He’s always been a good, hard working kid. Not many freshman QBs could do what he did. It’s a big learning curve from middle school to HS, and he had his growing pains, all do. But he progressed great throughout the season. And he’s got one of the best QB coaches around in haddix to help him.

Crazy a freshman can start for a program as good as Corbin. I know it sometimes happens in smaller schools just due to numbers and not having someone for that role. Very impressive by the young man and coaching staff to help transition him into that starting spot. 4 years at the helm...good grief. And with another top prospect in the state in the Longmire kid, good grief...4A is crazy good the next...well, as long as you can see and as long as not much happens with the next realignment. Boyle won't have any true down years, Corbin is going to be back on the upswing, without much of a down year this year behind them, Wayne should be solid again next season, Johnson Central always strong, Louisville Central will definitely bring in some talent and you never know how they will do in the playoffs until they actually get started. Franklin Simpson probably won't stay down either. From top to bottom it's hard for me to pick a better Class.
#96
Has a Corbin team ever allowed this many points on D? Definitely no comparison to past few years. Head coach choices seem to be big issue. That being said Sloan was way ahead of anyone on the field. Where is this kid’s publicity? Impressive.
#97
smoke1015 Wrote:I hope it's obvious by now my comments don't revolve around the Boyle county football team. BIG BOY time came, and went, and is back again. From one season to the next, it is gonna vary a bit who is ready to step up, who suffers a catastrophic key injury. I'm not sure what you mean about Corbin at full strength being better than Central. As far as I know both those teams, at BIG BOY time, were full strength and Corbin's kids out played Central most of the night, but a couple of "gutsy calls" cost those young men a state championship. For a subject you said you had dropped at least 15 comments ago...I'm thinking I'm not the one that is "clueless". Support your team and athletes, but don't get so emotional if someone has a differing opinion in specific teams and athletes. Especially when they aren't doing it in a disrespectful way. There's your advice, or clue, if you will.

Oh I know, I can’t think of another freshman that has started QB for us in decades. And it wasn’t because we didn’t have other options. Combs was just better. His decision making this year was that of a freshman. He was a little quick to tuck and run with it, but heck most of the time it worked out. But that will get better, and it did get better week after week. You keep forgetting, we’ll maybe not forgetting, but one of the best if not the best underclassman WRs in the state. A 6”4 freshman that will also be very good and was good this year. If we can get some coaching things lined out, and I think we will, we’ll be right back in the hunt next year. I really think we have some of the most promising men coming up, especially after Boyle lost morman.
#98
Clint Cashen started as a freshman at Corbin.
#99
Boyle could take a slight step backwards after Smith retires which could happen very soon.
Corbin Wrote:Clint Cashen started as a freshman at Corbin.

Was he a fresh or sophomore? I remembered him but thought he was a sophomore.
He came in and started as a freshman after Brock was injured in a car wreck in the preseason if I am not mistaken.
Corbin always has a good QB, but none as good as the boy last year.. Gamer!!!!
Auburn starts a freshman
I wonder if he is a holdback, 16 age fresh?
Corbin Wrote:He came in and started as a freshman after Brock was injured in a car wreck in the preseason if I am not mistaken.

Nope you’re right. I knew he was our QB I just kept thinking he was a sophomore.

But yea did he did good. I tbink combs did a better job as a fresh. And that’s no shade towards cashen at all because he did very well and rose quickly to lead that team on the offensive end. I think it was a different style of ball back then. Actually it obviously was. Both QBs did very well with their respective offenses. I will say I think Combs has more upside, as he is more mobile and has better arm strength and accuracy. Cashen was a strong QB hard to bring down, almost like Sizemore 2 years ago. They have a lot of things in common.
Craze JACKET man Wrote:Corbin always has a good QB, but none as good as the boy last year.. Gamer!!!!
Auburn starts a freshman
I wonder if he is a holdback, 16 age fresh?

I don’t understand your last sentence?
Hound05 Wrote:I don’t understand your last sentence?

He wants to know if he’s a double hold back which sometimes allows freshman to be 16 years old and still be eligible but as far as I know Combs is still 15.
Back in the day, Corbin and Jackets use to hold kids back for athletics.
Nothing wrong with it and we need to start doing it again to compete at high level
Craze JACKET man Wrote:Nothing wrong with it and we need to start doing it again to compete at high level

Craze I’m not gonna lie, when I first read that I kinda interpreted it the wrong way and was sort of mad, but I see what you’re saying now.

But yes kids are still held back, and like you I have absolutely no problem with it. But it’s always the parents decision to do so. I’m actually for it. As long is its within the rules, I’m for anything that will give these kids an advantage and help their chances of making to the next level. To me it does just that, with very little downside. I don’t know if you check out the MS board, but there’s a post on there about the KHSAA basically regulating I guess is the word? The MS athletic programs. It’s a good topic for discussion
Hound05 Wrote:Craze I’m not gonna lie, when I first read that I kinda interpreted it the wrong way and was sort of mad, but I see what you’re saying now.

But yes kids are still held back, and like you I have absolutely no problem with it. But it’s always the parents decision to do so. I’m actually for it. As long is its within the rules, I’m for anything that will give these kids an advantage and help their chances of making to the next level. To me it does just that, with very little downside. I don’t know if you check out the MS board, but there’s a post on there about the KHSAA basically regulating I guess is the word? The MS athletic programs. It’s a good topic for discussion

It’s become so prevalent that if your not holding your kid back at least a year it puts them at a disadvantage...I’m like you it should be up to the parents but imo it doesn’t matter if you hold them back or not a true D1 talent is gonna show themselves on the field Sloan is a prime example...
single shot Wrote:It’s become so prevalent that if your not holding your kid back at least a year it puts them at a disadvantage...I’m like you it should be up to the parents but imo it doesn’t matter if you hold them back or not a true D1 talent is gonna show themselves on the field Sloan is a prime example...

Oh no I absolutely agree. But that extra year would help them, especially those on the verge. Extra year to Get stronger, mature, grow, work on skill sets, to me the list of utilities goes on and on with hardly any con’s. A majority of the time if you take a kid with the same skill and talent that another kid has that is a year older, the older will prevail. I’m all for it, and I’d say if nothing else all my kids will be held back for the maturity part of it
Completely off topic I know, but has anyone heard from Gut? Or have I just overlooked him? If not I’m hoping he’s ok. He use to be on corbin and Whitley threads all the time?
Hound05 Wrote:Completely off topic I know, but has anyone heard from Gut? Or have I just overlooked him? If not I’m hoping he’s ok. He use to be on corbin and Whitley threads all the time?

Soon it will be RunItUpTheGut one year anniversary getting caught cheating in the pick’em contest :biglmao:
Hound05 Wrote:Oh no I absolutely agree. But that extra year would help them, especially those on the verge. Extra year to Get stronger, mature, grow, work on skill sets, to me the list of utilities goes on and on with hardly any con’s. A majority of the time if you take a kid with the same skill and talent that another kid has that is a year older, the older will prevail. I’m all for it, and I’d say if nothing else all my kids will be held back for the maturity part of it

I understand what your saying and agree I’m actually all for holding back didn’t mean to come off as it was a bad thing just some people don’t understand that it doesn’t mean your kid is gonna end up playing D1 football and getting drafted shortly thereafter....
Running Back Wrote:Has a Corbin team ever allowed this many points on D? Definitely no comparison to past few years. Head coach choices seem to be big issue. That being said Sloan was way ahead of anyone on the field. Where is this kid’s publicity? Impressive.


I don’t think in all my years of watching Corbin I recall them allowing 63 points in a game. That should not happen in November to a team that we played once already.

We were unprepared.
single shot Wrote:I understand what your saying and agree I’m actually all for holding back didn’t mean to come off as it was a bad thing just some people don’t understand that it doesn’t mean your kid is gonna end up playing D1 football and getting drafted shortly thereafter....

No you didn’t come off that way at all. I just went into detail more about my position of why I believe it’s good
The Spread Wrote:I don’t think in all my years of watching Corbin I recall them allowing 63 points in a game. That should not happen in November to a team that we played once already.

We were unprepared.

I can’t either. And yes we were!

I love Lewallen. He’s a great guy and I tbink he’ll be good coordinator one day. But he’s not ready for this job. I understand you can’t turn a job like this down, and none of this is his fault. He was put in a bad spot, on a down year at that. I know it’s hard to go backwards, but I tbink we need to find someone for him to mentor under a little longer. If he would have stayed under Greer about 4 more years I think he would have benefited. But we didn’t have that option.
The Spread Wrote:I don’t think in all my years of watching Corbin I recall them allowing 63 points in a game. That should not happen in November to a team that we played once already.

We were unprepared.

They lost a State Final by 50 ormore one year to Haddix and Breathitt I believe. :Thumbs:
Hound05 Wrote:Nope you’re right. I knew he was our QB I just kept thinking he was a sophomore.

But yea did he did good. I tbink combs did a better job as a fresh. And that’s no shade towards cashen at all because he did very well and rose quickly to lead that team on the offensive end. I think it was a different style of ball back then. Actually it obviously was. Both QBs did very well with their respective offenses. I will say I think Combs has more upside, as he is more mobile and has better arm strength and accuracy. Cashen was a strong QB hard to bring down, almost like Sizemore 2 years ago. They have a lot of things in common.

Sizemore was a brute, and freakishly tough. Our 2 best linebackers, legit 3A linebackers hit that man in the thigh, the knee, the calf, belly, and everything in between. I only saw him get up, slow, twice, and within a few steps he was back to normal. Estep you just couldn't hit clean to begin with.
single shot Wrote:He wants to know if he’s a double hold back which sometimes allows freshman to be 16 years old and still be eligible but as far as I know Combs is still 15.

As long as that birthday when they hit their senior year, and their not 19 before August 1st, it's all fair game.
smoke1015 Wrote:Sizemore was a brute, and freakishly tough. Our 2 best linebackers, legit 3A linebackers hit that man in the thigh, the knee, the calf, belly, and everything in between. I only saw him get up, slow, twice, and within a few steps he was back to normal. Estep you just couldn't hit clean to begin with.

Oh boy he was a hoss cat. Baby lorenzen. The hefty lefty. Very few times did I ever see one person bring him down alone. His arm strength was somewhat of a weakness for him, but he made up for it with great vision passing and running. A very smart QB as well.

SUR either must have some good genes in his family, or he’s not claiming everyone. Every cousin he’s got is a star. Confusednicker:

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