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10-13-2019, 06:31 PM
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10-13-2019, 07:52 PM
I canât imagine caring about this right now. Things will definitely shake out as they are supposed to. More data input is needed for the system to function properly and they simply donât have the information needed yet. Not to mention...anything is better than alternating years. Muchado about nothing. Good teams will win....if they are good. Doesnât matter where they play.
10-13-2019, 08:59 PM
Next year, Male (the only top 25 6A team) and Trinity (45???) should simply schedule 1A teams, win by +60 points, and manage some respectability.
KCD has played the dregs of Jefferson County, and is #1 in the state? KCD is a short drive to Shelbyville Road and Trinity, so maybe they should stop by and help little Trinity out with their RPI.
DeSales beat PT, is significantly behind them; lost to Lexington Catholic, and is ahead of them; lost to St. X, is about 55 spots ahead of them.
The three teams to have beaten St.X, have lost a combined four games!
The three teams to have beaten Lexington Catholic have ONE loss, in totality.
Butler, ranked 106th, has four losses; their opponents have a combined three defeats.
KCD has played the dregs of Jefferson County, and is #1 in the state? KCD is a short drive to Shelbyville Road and Trinity, so maybe they should stop by and help little Trinity out with their RPI.
DeSales beat PT, is significantly behind them; lost to Lexington Catholic, and is ahead of them; lost to St. X, is about 55 spots ahead of them.
The three teams to have beaten St.X, have lost a combined four games!
The three teams to have beaten Lexington Catholic have ONE loss, in totality.
Butler, ranked 106th, has four losses; their opponents have a combined three defeats.
10-13-2019, 09:01 PM
mysonis55 Wrote:As suspected, the new rpi system is a joke. This is evidenced in 1a by KCD, which most likely isnât even a top 4 team and is now #1 in rpi. In 2a, is there really anyone that thinks Mayfield is #3. Then 3a, do you think Bell Co is #1, looking at what DeSales has played and their results.
What was so wrong with the old east comes west or west comes east?
Very flawed system.
10-13-2019, 09:09 PM
You guys worry to much at the end of regular season they will have them placed like they want them. No matter what you guys think that watch most of these teams play and pretty well know who should be playing. They will pick them by what numbers that put in to fit their agenda
10-13-2019, 09:17 PM
After 8 weeks, the RPI rankings make the old Litkenhous system look respectable, lol.
If itâs any consolation, even if the next 3 weeks donât improve the RPIâs accuracy, at least the moronic âletâs replay the districtâ approach to the first two playoff rounds might distract us for a bit.
Welcome to âSix-Class Football 2.0â.
If itâs any consolation, even if the next 3 weeks donât improve the RPIâs accuracy, at least the moronic âletâs replay the districtâ approach to the first two playoff rounds might distract us for a bit.
Welcome to âSix-Class Football 2.0â.
10-13-2019, 09:19 PM
mysonis55 Wrote:It is embarrassing seeing KCD ranked above Pikeville, Paintsville, Hazard or Williamsburg.
Agreed...oh, and also EVERY OTHER TEAM IN KY. What a joke.
10-13-2019, 10:15 PM
Woodsman Wrote:I canât imagine caring about this right now. Things will definitely shake out as they are supposed to. More data input is needed for the system to function properly and they simply donât have the information needed yet. Not to mention...anything is better than alternating years. Muchado about nothing. Good teams will win....if they are good. Doesnât matter where they play.Abso-freaking-lutely!!! People mad cause their team isnât number 1 half way through in an RPI system hahaha
10-13-2019, 10:49 PM
Hound05 Wrote:Abso-freaking-lutely!!! People mad cause their team isnât number 1 half way through in an RPI system hahaha
As a Middlesboro fan, I can assure you I donât expect my Jackets to be ranked #1...ever. Theyâre actually way over-ranked right now.
Rather, ANY system that has KCD, LCA, Somerset, etc., ranked above programs like Trinity, Male or Douglass is far, far beyond flawed...itâs ludicrous.
10-13-2019, 10:55 PM
barnabus_c2001 Wrote:RPI sucks for homefield because it was East turn to come west so Mayffield is getting screwed at least this year but we can deal with it bring em on.
And Boyle County traveled on the road consecutive years in the Semi-Finals because 2017 the number favored E'town and re-alignment of Class in 2018 sent them on the road for the second straight year, this time to Corbin.
I like the RPI a lot better than the old way. :Thumbs:
10-13-2019, 11:00 PM
You can only look at the RPI for each class, since you get premium points for playing up and penalty points for playing down in class. Class 1A and Class 2A has a great opportunity to schedule up than other classes, whereas 6A has no opportunities to schedule up.
Teams that can not get KY schools to play them (for example Johnson Central) or traditionally they play out of state schools (such as Trinity) the current RPI system is biased against playing out of state opponents (a WP of 0.500) and their out of state opponents opponents (give a WP of 0.500 vs actual). Plus no premium/penalty for playing up or down in class.
The Biggest Problem I see is that KHSAA put this RPI in place AFTER the majority of schools already had their schedules in place for 2019 and 2020 football seasons. This year and next year would have been good test years to see what needs to be tweaked, like addressing the out to state school WP.
If KHSAA is set with a RPI for seeding then they need to use RPI for seeding for the whole playoffs, not just the last 3 weeks.
Teams that can not get KY schools to play them (for example Johnson Central) or traditionally they play out of state schools (such as Trinity) the current RPI system is biased against playing out of state opponents (a WP of 0.500) and their out of state opponents opponents (give a WP of 0.500 vs actual). Plus no premium/penalty for playing up or down in class.
The Biggest Problem I see is that KHSAA put this RPI in place AFTER the majority of schools already had their schedules in place for 2019 and 2020 football seasons. This year and next year would have been good test years to see what needs to be tweaked, like addressing the out to state school WP.
If KHSAA is set with a RPI for seeding then they need to use RPI for seeding for the whole playoffs, not just the last 3 weeks.
10-13-2019, 11:24 PM
Hatz Wrote:And Boyle County traveled on the road consecutive years in the Semi-Finals because 2017 the number favored E'town and re-alignment of Class in 2018 sent them on the road for the second straight year, this time to Corbin.
I like the RPI a lot better than the old way. :Thumbs:
This was our season to host thru semi-state in the old system and it's looking like the RPI is lining up for that anyway.
10-13-2019, 11:42 PM
barnabus_c2001 Wrote:RPI sucks for homefield because it was East turn to come west so Mayffield is getting screwed at least this year but we can deal with it bring em on.
How is Mayfield getting screwed? They win and they will have a home game in semi's. The good news if you're a Mayfield fan or any team is If your one of the top two teams, you will get a semi game every year....I'll take my chances.
10-13-2019, 11:49 PM
Woodsman Wrote:I canât imagine caring about this right now. Things will definitely shake out as they are supposed to. More data input is needed for the system to function properly and they simply donât have the information needed yet. Not to mention...anything is better than alternating years. Muchado about nothing. Good teams will win....if they are good. Doesnât matter where they play.
Dude seriously???? How would it not shake out by week 7? It is obvious the teams that are playing the tougher schedules are getting blasted for scheduling that way. And, donât tell me that it donât matter. Imagine if you are Mayfield and play a solid schedule, you are ranked #3 by the rpi and you still have to play a top ten 2a team and a top ten 4a team. If you take a 1 point loss on the 4a game, you drop to #4 and have to drive 6 plus hours to Somerset to play in the semis when you should be at home.
Or as mentioned above, you beat the crap out of PT as DeSales has but, due to rankings you have to travel 3+ hours to play at PT in semis.
10-13-2019, 11:56 PM
Snakesnot Wrote:How is Mayfield getting screwed? They win and they will have a home game in semi's. The good news if you're a Mayfield fan or any team is If your one of the top two teams, you will get a semi game every year....I'll take my chances.
So you think it would be right if Mayfield loses to a top ten 4a school in the last regular season while Breathitt Co play the A team with no wins and beats that team like a drum and moves into the 3 spot? Now you have to travel to Somerset?
10-14-2019, 01:50 AM
FoSho Wrote:I think it should be weighted more heavily on w/l %. Isn't the w/l % weighted the same as opponent w/l %?
It's like:
w/l % - 35%
opp w/l % - 35%
opp opp w/l % - 30%
IMO it should be something like 50/30/20.
But what do I know?
See I think it's OWP that is being undervalued. Isn't that the true test of a strong schedule? How good the teams you're playing are? The WP being valued more would just give teams like KCD an even higher RPI because that's where all of their value is coming from anyways.
30/50/20 is how it should be valued IMO.
10-14-2019, 02:17 AM
mysonis55 Wrote:So you think it would be right if Mayfield loses to a top ten 4a school in the last regular season while Breathitt Co play the A team with no wins and beats that team like a drum and moves into the 3 spot? Now you have to travel to Somerset?If Mayfield can't beat the #6 ranked team in 4A, guess what?
No State Championship.
Like Al Davis says...."just win baby"
10-14-2019, 02:21 AM
Hatz Wrote:And Boyle County traveled on the road consecutive years in the Semi-Finals because 2017 the number favored E'town and re-alignment of Class in 2018 sent them on the road for the second straight year, this time to Corbin.
I like the RPI a lot better than the old way. :Thumbs:
I love it. I tbink it starts on an avenue to improve it for years to come and take in more data and improve it. Iâm curious if the RPI would have had you all coming to Corbin last year anyways? The four best teams were obvious in us, you, belfry and central. How it would have played out with RPI would have been interesting. I think without a doubt our schedule was stronger, but you guys played up in class some games that might have effected it.
10-14-2019, 02:42 AM
RoShamBo Wrote:See I think it's OWP that is being undervalued. Isn't that the true test of a strong schedule? How good the teams you're playing are? The WP being valued more would just give teams like KCD an even higher RPI because that's where all of their value is coming from anyways.
30/50/20 is how it should be valued IMO.
The OWP does effect the SOS. However, the most important aspect of a team is their w/l record so IMO that has to be the most important. So maybe...
50/40/10
?
10-14-2019, 03:24 AM
Hound05 Wrote:I love it. I tbink it starts on an avenue to improve it for years to come and take in more data and improve it. Iâm curious if the RPI would have had you all coming to Corbin last year anyways? The four best teams were obvious in us, you, belfry and central. How it would have played out with RPI would have been interesting. I think without a doubt our schedule was stronger, but you guys played up in class some games that might have effected it.
Boyle would have hosted. Hereâs the link of last years rpi.
https://khsaa.org/rpi_details/?event_id=1161
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