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2015 Class 5A Pre-Season Top 10
#31
Lilly Wrote:Not talking about you Birdman. Have alot of great friends there in Highlands. Much respect for the birds. No respect for the trash talkers who have done nothing.

Im kinda drunk now though. and by the way ive posted drunk and it was d-baggish rant about how awesome highlands is.

I love the new No Ky 5a: Highlands, Cov Cath and Dixie. Will miss Lex Cath and Boyle, they were good "our side of the bracket" rivals but Pulaski and SW have gotten a lot better. the Cov Cath v SW or High vs Pulaski round will be good. I also like that Owensboro and BG are on the other side as possible state game matchups. probably a lot of teams leaving out but it will be some good football in 5A. Is Bryan Station 5A?
#32
Lilly Wrote:Not talking about you Birdman. Have alot of great friends there in Highlands. Much respect for the birds. No respect for the trash talkers who have done nothing.
Quit sucking Lily! I have no respect Highlands, as a matter of fact I hate them, and I hate anyone who likes them. I've been there for a few games, their fans are really big feeling, like everyone is beneath them. How hard is it to win with class? I hope they make it to semi-state next year, South Western will spank that tail.
#33
jim rome Wrote:Quit sucking Lily! I have no respect Highlands, as a matter of fact I hate them, and I hate anyone who likes them. I've been there for a few games, their fans are really big feeling, like everyone is beneath them. How hard is it to win with class? I hope they make it to semi-state next year, South Western will spank that tail.

So you get some weird vibe and an entire fan base is snobby? C'mon man
#34
Lilly Wrote:Not talking about you Birdman. Have alot of great friends there in Highlands. Much respect for the birds. No respect for the trash talkers who have done nothing.

get some respect for yourself :gtfo:
#35
pjdoug Wrote:get some respect for yourself :gtfo:

thank you pjdoug:rockon:
#36
Are there any Louisville schools in 5A?
#37
jim rome Wrote:thank you pjdoug:rockon:

you're welcome :biggrin:
#38
Kind of coming in on this one late but......

I respect Highlands because they showed respect to Whitley in 08 when they played the semifinals at WCHS. Whitley seniors where taking the "Final Lap" and the Highlands fans, or at least a large segment of them stood and clapped and showed respect for our team tradition. They could have left, booed, showed their tailends but they showed respect to the players and the program.

That being said I still want to beat their butts next time we have the opportunity to play them!!!
#39
Anything new for the preseason?
#40
Dietpepsidrinker Wrote:Kind of coming in on this one late but......

I respect Highlands because they showed respect to Whitley in 08 when they played the semifinals at WCHS. Whitley seniors where taking the "Final Lap" and the Highlands fans, or at least a large segment of them stood and clapped and showed respect for our team tradition. They could have left, booed, showed their tailends but they showed respect to the players and the program.

That being said I still want to beat their butts next time we have the opportunity to play them!!!

Whitley will never be good enough again in your lifetime to see a rematch.
#41
1) SW
2) highlands
3) Bowling green
4) graves county
5) north Laurel
6) pulaski co.
#42
pjdoug Wrote:get some respect for yourself :gtfo:

Thanks you pj I will lay off you know.
#43
I think we will see many highlands/bowling green final matchups, and don't see many other teams having much of a shot.
#44
Pulaski returns almost their entire team. They go as QB goes, he stays healthy they will be returning to the championship. Southwestern is a year away from their run. Anyone who thinks Highlands runs from anyone is nuts. Bowling Green will be good, but not dominating. 5A has an exciting class of football.
#45
Pulaski is a very good football team and I think 5A will be very competitive this year.
#46
3sportfan Wrote:Pulaski is a very good football team and I think 5A will be very competitive this year.

The team I seen in the finals last year was not a strong 5a champ. Graves was not that good, and Pulaski didn't impress. Heck graves got shut out by a 1a team. 5a was just bad last year.
#47
Kentucky needs to go to a 2 class system. Almost every class has a couple good teams, and that's it. Highlands, and Bowling green in this one no one else matters.
#48
jim rome Wrote:Quit sucking Lily! I have no respect Highlands, as a matter of fact I hate them, and I hate anyone who likes them. I've been there for a few games, their fans are really big feeling, like everyone is beneath them. How hard is it to win with class? I hope they make it to semi-state next year, South Western will spank that tail.

You are the minority! I hear more people say good things about the way they are treated by HHS fans than negative things being said. Any winning program in sports has its long list of haters, it comes with the territory. A Florida coach took the time after playing at HHS to write a letter thanking the HHS staff/parents/fans/players for the wonderful way they were treated. Every fan base has those who are an embarrassment to the school, but I find HHS fan base to be very respectful and classy. Now I would still expect every opposing team to want to kick their butts.

Now as for all the post here listing Highlands as the top team next season, I think it is a little premature and based on past success! HHS has a lot of questions to answer. I for one am not ready to put them on the top of the class. HHS will probably still be in top 10, but I feel a lot of teams will be on level playing field this year. I look for it to be difficult for HHS to get by Cov Cath this year (Sure hope I am wrong on this one!).
#49
Highlands
Cov Cath
Bowling Green
Pulaski Co

The Rest:
#50
sstack Wrote:You are the minority! I hear more people say good things about the way they are treated by HHS fans than negative things being said. Any winning program in sports has its long list of haters, it comes with the territory. A Florida coach took the time after playing at HHS to write a letter thanking the HHS staff/parents/fans/players for the wonderful way they were treated. Every fan base has those who are an embarrassment to the school, but I find HHS fan base to be very respectful and classy. Now I would still expect every opposing team to want to kick their butts.

Now as for all the post here listing Highlands as the top team next season, I think it is a little premature and based on past success! HHS has a lot of questions to answer. I for one am not ready to put them on the top of the class. HHS will probably still be in top 10, but I feel a lot of teams will be on level playing field this year. I look for it to be difficult for HHS to get by Cov Cath this year (Sure hope I am wrong on this one!).

Highlands has a lot of questions to answer? Please elaborate on that one. Thought last year was the year of the Blue Colonels? Does Highlands not return 3 starting offensive lineman from a state championship team along with a stable of running backs and receivers? Heard these same type things going into last year and what was the result? Lets hear about the questions because this ought to be really good.
#51
mantax Wrote:Highlands has a lot of questions to answer? Please elaborate on that one. Thought last year was the year of the Blue Colonels? Does Highlands not return 3 starting offensive lineman from a state championship team along with a stable of running backs and receivers? Heard these same type things going into last year and what was the result? Lets hear about the questions because this ought to be really good.

Stable of running backs? No proven RB, but several posible good ones (no studs). 3 starters back on O-line and a lot of questions on who steps in the other spots. D was far from good last year and they lose a lot from last year (lose a lot in the backfield). Lost stud WR and no stud to replace, this is a position that will probably be way down compared to last 5 years. Biggest question is QB, HHS has had great leaders at QB over last decade and it is not know who will even be starter next year. Hergott has the size and a good arm, but has not shown much in games so far as backup, not very accurate and not much of a runner, and can they keep him on the field? Rest of backup QB's from last year (3th,4th, and 5th stringers) were all very small. One had very good speed but do not know how he sees over the line. It is going to be interesting to see who winds up being starter. Over all quality of athletes is going to be down, good/fair athletes but not the stud athletes HHS has had. Having stud QB (Hoge) last year made the difference in winning state title, they do not have that type of player anywhere on the field this year. They did win last year, but the gap between them and other teams closed a lot and will continue this year.
#52
sstack Wrote:Stable of running backs? No proven RB, but several posible good ones (no studs). 3 starters back on O-line and a lot of questions on who steps in the other spots. D was far from good last year and they lose a lot from last year (lose a lot in the backfield). Lost stud WR and no stud to replace, this is a position that will probably be way down compared to last 5 years. Biggest question is QB, HHS has had great leaders at QB over last decade and it is not know who will even be starter next year. Hergott has the size and a good arm, but has not shown much in games so far as backup, not very accurate and not much of a runner, and can they keep him on the field? Rest of backup QB's from last year (3th,4th, and 5th stringers) were all very small. One had very good speed but do not know how he sees over the line. It is going to be interesting to see who winds up being starter. Over all quality of athletes is going to be down, good/fair athletes but not the stud athletes HHS has had. Having stud QB (Hoge) last year made the difference in winning state title, they do not have that type of player anywhere on the field this year. They did win last year, but the gap between them and other teams closed a lot and will continue this year.

All this use of the word 'stud' is rather comical to be honest. What exactly is a stud? Did you think Venemann would have the year he had based upon his two prior years? I say no to that one and it became pretty obvious to many that he was the first, second and third option on most pass plays. A good RB, Kendall has seen meaningful carries the last 2 years. Believe he had huge game against Ashland in playoffs. If you want to say 'studs', are Hebel and Richardson not that on the offensive line? In fact, I might argue that Robinson is that on the Defensive side of the ball. You talk about the defense not being good, yet they won 13 games and played the 8A Florida runner-up to less than a touchdown difference. No 'stud' receivers, yet have 4 or 5 guys returning that had many catches throughout the year in clutch situations. The starting QB will be Hergott, period end of story.

If they are so weak in the backfields and at wideout maybe it is time for some guys to play on both sides of the ball. This whole bit about talent being down and such is humorous because the prior 4 or 5 years of Highlands football were an abberation.
#53
mantax Wrote:All this use of the word 'stud' is rather comical to be honest. What exactly is a stud? Did you think Venemann would have the year he had based upon his two prior years? I say no to that one and it became pretty obvious to many that he was the first, second and third option on most pass plays. A good RB, Kendall has seen meaningful carries the last 2 years. Believe he had huge game against Ashland in playoffs. If you want to say 'studs', are Hebel and Richardson not that on the offensive line? In fact, I might argue that Robinson is that on the Defensive side of the ball. You talk about the defense not being good, yet they won 13 games and played the 8A Florida runner-up to less than a touchdown difference. No 'stud' receivers, yet have 4 or 5 guys returning that had many catches throughout the year in clutch situations. The starting QB will be Hergott, period end of story.

If they are so weak in the backfields and at wideout maybe it is time for some guys to play on both sides of the ball. This whole bit about talent being down and such is humorous because the prior 4 or 5 years of Highlands football were an abberation.

Funny how for past 10 years I have been posting how good HHS is and that they will win state champ. and got grief from other posters and told to take off the blue tinted glasses; Now I post that they are going to struggle and have many holes to fill and I still get posters giving me grief.
Do not know what is so funny about a "stud". It is an athlete that is a game changer, that other teams have to game plan around. HHS has had many over the last 10 years and yes Hoge was a "stud". And yes, I see no studs on this years team. Hebel, like you mentioned is closest one to being a stud.
EVERYONE! who follows HHS knew Venemann was going to be a very,very good WR; He had a great Jr year (a great athlete, baseball player, state champion in 200 meters, runner up in 100 meters), HE WAS NO SURPRISE! No other WR last year stood out, but that does not mean one will not step up and surprise us.
Yes the D was bad! Look at the stats. They had a very good offense putting up big points to allow them to win games.
At RB positiion there are several players that have shown good potential, but none have proved anything yet. And many are on the small side and you worry if they can stay healthy all year.
Are you so sure Hergott is the starter? I have heard it is not set in stone for several reasons.
And say what you want, Say it is humerous if you want, but it is no secret that the SR/JR classes for next year are down in the number of quality athletes. This has been seen since elementary school. Will some step up and play better? Will some new kids move in? Maybe but only time will tell. The classes behind these have much better numbers of athletic kids.
Just curious, are you a parent/fan/alummi of HHS?
#54
wiznut Wrote:1 Southwestern
2 Bowling green
3 highlands
4 north Laurel
5 cov. Cath
6 Iroqouis
7 whitley co.
8 graves county
9 cooper
10 pulaski co.

Ok to put anyone besides Highlands at number 1 makes the rest of your list invalid. Highlands has only lost to 1 Kentucky team since 2006. I think I'm right on that? To have north and whitley in the top 10 further demonstrates lack 5A understanding.
#55
sstack Wrote:Funny how for past 10 years I have been posting how good HHS is and that they will win state champ. and got grief from other posters and told to take off the blue tinted glasses; Now I post that they are going to struggle and have many holes to fill and I still get posters giving me grief.
Do not know what is so funny about a "stud". It is an athlete that is a game changer, that other teams have to game plan around. HHS has had many over the last 10 years and yes Hoge was a "stud". And yes, I see no studs on this years team. Hebel, like you mentioned is closest one to being a stud.
EVERYONE! who follows HHS knew Venemann was going to be a very,very good WR; He had a great Jr year (a great athlete, baseball player, state champion in 200 meters, runner up in 100 meters), HE WAS NO SURPRISE! No other WR last year stood out, but that does not mean one will not step up and surprise us.
Yes the D was bad! Look at the stats. They had a very good offense putting up big points to allow them to win games.
At RB positiion there are several players that have shown good potential, but none have proved anything yet. And many are on the small side and you worry if they can stay healthy all year.
Are you so sure Hergott is the starter? I have heard it is not set in stone for several reasons.
And say what you want, Say it is humerous if you want, but it is no secret that the SR/JR classes for next year are down in the number of quality athletes. This has been seen since elementary school. Will some step up and play better? Will some new kids move in? Maybe but only time will tell. The classes behind these have much better numbers of athletic kids.
Just curious, are you a parent/fan/alummi of HHS?

Does it matter what I am? Are you? So Vennaman was going to be good because he ran track? Please. Just because you run track does not make you a world beater. I will tell you that there are plenty of athletes in the two classes about whom you speak of. I will not name any names because I would be afraid to leave someone out.
#56
mantax Wrote:Does it matter what I am? Are you? So Vennaman was going to be good because he ran track? Please. Just because you run track does not make you a world beater. I will tell you that there are plenty of athletes in the two classes about whom you speak of. I will not name any names because I would be afraid to leave someone out.

It does matter in a way, because sometimes parents tend to exaggerate how good the team or their kids are. I was just curious, did not think you were a HHS fan. And no I have no kids on team, just love HS sports. Just pointing out that Vennaman is an all around good athlete. He was a good receiver partly due to being faster than any defender on him ( defenses either got burned on the long pass or would play off him and give up a ton of short passes. I remember one game HHS started off the game with 3 or 4 straight quick passes to him because the D was playing so far off him.). You do know what kind of season he had his JR year? He did not sneak up on anybody his SR year. Not saying there are not some good athletes in those classes, but the number of good athletes is way down.
Hey, I am the first one to say I hope I am wrong and HHS continues to dominate, but I just do not see that happening the next year or two.
#57
sstack Wrote:Stable of running backs? No proven RB, but several posible good ones (no studs). 3 starters back on O-line and a lot of questions on who steps in the other spots. D was far from good last year and they lose a lot from last year (lose a lot in the backfield). Lost stud WR and no stud to replace, this is a position that will probably be way down compared to last 5 years. Biggest question is QB, HHS has had great leaders at QB over last decade and it is not know who will even be starter next year. Hergott has the size and a good arm, but has not shown much in games so far as backup, not very accurate and not much of a runner, and can they keep him on the field? Rest of backup QB's from last year (3th,4th, and 5th stringers) were all very small. One had very good speed but do not know how he sees over the line. It is going to be interesting to see who winds up being starter. Over all quality of athletes is going to be down, good/fair athletes but not the stud athletes HHS has had. Having stud QB (Hoge) last year made the difference in winning state title, they do not have that type of player anywhere on the field this year. They did win last year, but the gap between them and other teams closed a lot and will continue this year.

Pretty accurate actually. There is no freak offensive weapon coming back. but there are guys that can hopefully blossom into great players like Kendall. Offensive line coming back is a lot more than you think usually there are only one at best coming back. Hergott will be better than all the haters think... the offense last year was set up for Beau. They will adjust the playbook to fit Hergott. I still think Highlands is at least a top 3 team. The Def is a question mark, the secondary will be strong lead by Beal. There are some good LBs coming back Def Line will be the factor. Pulaski, Cov Cath, BG and Highlands will be vying for the title. I am not sold on SW, cant really remember them making any noise last year. is Owenesboro in 5A? if so they would be in the mix too.
#58
birdman, SW beat Pulaski in the regular season then lost to Pulaski in the region championship by 8. They missed an extra point and were down 1 under 2 minutes before running out of timeouts and Pulaski converting on several third and 4th downs. They were pretty fairly matched with similar positions and number of starters coming back next year.
#59
DDP5 Wrote:birdman, SW beat Pulaski in the regular season then lost to Pulaski in the region championship by 8. They missed an extra point and were down 1 under 2 minutes before running out of timeouts and Pulaski converting on several third and 4th downs. They were pretty fairly matched with similar positions and number of starters coming back next year.

SW beat Pulaski 14-0 with PC's QB out due to injury, and PC had 6 turnovers. Lost 14-0. In the Region Title game, (with PC's QB back, but rusty) PC won 24-16. SW caught a TD pass on 4th down that bounced off PC's safety. And PC had two TDs called back by penalty. Also, PC had the ball inside SW 10 yard line and didn't score. Could have been much worse. Not as close a game as the score said.
#60
Santa Monica Wrote:SW beat Pulaski 14-0 with PC's QB out due to injury, and PC had 6 turnovers. Lost 14-0. In the Region Title game, (with PC's QB back, but rusty) PC won 24-16. SW caught a TD pass on 4th down that bounced off PC's safety. And PC had two TDs called back by penalty. Also, PC had the ball inside SW 10 yard line and didn't score. Could have been much worse. Not as close a game as the score said.

But it wasn't. One score game at the end and a one point game under two minutes. If you want to play that game I believe Southwestern played the second game without their leading rusher over (1,200 yards). It is what it is though, nobody blew anybody out in the total yardage, both games were a hard fought games by two fairly even matched teams. It is ok to have two good teams in the same county.:betterthanexpected:

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