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Hazard, Kentucky
#91
TheRealThing Wrote:So, you admit then that you're party line and that's it? Not that I would have needed any validation about that. Party means nada to me. I put country ahead of party, and the common good ahead of special interests. I believe in moral governance according to the vision of the framers.

Like I said, the liberal threat was present even during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. Bowing to government is certainly no new idea. Very European in nature, and I reject it out of hand. Obama and his ilk insist government is there to help people. Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan disagree.
I vote union, I can only pull one lever in major elections. I vote for the middle class, I can only pull one lever in major elections. Where have I ever claimed that I don't vote for anyone other than democrats, except for local county/city elections? Democrats are the only ones that are for things that I'm for. I think I've made it pretty clear before, that I won't vote republican in state/national elections. Where the hell have you been?
#92
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:You are evading the subject again. I am still waiting for you, or anyone else, to name one accomplishment in life of Little Lundergan. She has none.

What are her positions on major state and federal issues? She has none.

What concrete goal does she espouse to help the people of the Commonwealth? None.

She is in over her head. She makes Ashley Judd look like a statesman.

The only thing I can see that she has gained from the campaign is about 20 pounds.
She knows law, and is currently holding state office. When you can tell me how you voted to send Paul to Washington, with much less experience than her, maybe we can discuss it. Why talk about her inexperience, when you were all for sending another with less experience?
#93
Where'd Mitch's campaign manager go? And, why did he go? Why will Mitch not answer questions, or give an interview? Did Jesse also run campaigns for the both Pauls?
#94
TheRealThing Wrote:Pig we agree on an awful lot but, it looks like we are miles apart on this one. Grimes will gleefully vote for everything Obama, Reid and Pelosi are pushing. That includes anything to do with the war on coal, ObamaCare, foreign policy appeasements, destructive global warming legislation, bigger national debt, bigger government and the furtherance of the liberal agenda en-toto. If she should be elected, Kentucky will have a muppet Senator for who knows how long.

http://www.presidentialdata.org

Again, knowing we have a conservative democrat at the highest office in KY, what makes you know Alison won't be a conservative democrat senator? Where's your inside info coming from, when she states exactly the opposite of what you say about her?
#95
TheRealVille Wrote:She knows law, and is currently holding state office. When you can tell me how you voted to send Paul to Washington, with much less experience than her, maybe we can discuss it. Why talk about her inexperience, when you were all for sending another with less experience?

She knows the law? Ridiculous. She graduated from law school. She did gopher work in a law firm (Wonder how she got the job?). As a graduate of law school, I can assure you that her credentials in regard to legal knowledge are elementary at best.

She currently holds a state office. So what. Anyone with a scintilla of knowledge knows that the office she "holds" runs itself. It has career merit employees. Whether Republican or Democrat, the secretary is no more than a figurehead. And, in truth, she is never on the job, is she?

I'm still waiting for someone to name one, just one, significant accomplishment of hers at anytime in her life. She refuses to answer questions from the media unless she can use her canned answers as supplied by daddy and her handlers. It is obvious from her pictures that she has "big sized" her orders at McDonald's on a regular basis. That, undoubtedly, is her only accomplishment.

And, has anyone located the whereabouts of Mr. Little Lundergan? Does he really exist?
#96
TheRealVille Wrote:http://www.presidentialdata.org

Again, knowing we have a conservative democrat at the highest office in KY, what makes you know Alison won't be a conservative democrat senator? Where's your inside info coming from, when she states exactly the opposite of what you say about her?



Inside information? I guess it might seem to be inside info if one believes everything DNC propagandists are putting out. It is common knowledge that rabid left ideologues from Hollywood and other big money string pullers for Dems are funding her campaign. She was 2nd in line of the hand picked "empty dresses" to get the call from the Obama camp, and to say she wouldn't vote accordingly is preposterous. Steven Beshear might be somewhat conservative when compared to someone like native American Elizabeth Warren. :please: But, buying into the fictional profiles of any present day Democrat would by definition eliminate thinking folks.
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#97
TheRealVille Wrote:I vote union, I can only pull one lever in major elections. I vote for the middle class, I can only pull one lever in major elections. Where have I ever claimed that I don't vote for anyone other than democrats, except for local county/city elections? Democrats are the only ones that are for things that I'm for. I think I've made it pretty clear before, that I won't vote republican in state/national elections. Where the hell have you been?



Ignoring you as much as possible.
[SIZE="3"]"You are no different than me, you vote party line, and that is it."[/SIZE] Did you just accuse me of being like you, voting party line or not?
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#98
TheRealVille Wrote:I vote union, I can only pull one lever in major elections. I vote for the middle class, I can only pull one lever in major elections. Where have I ever claimed that I don't vote for anyone other than democrats, except for local county/city elections? Democrats are the only ones that are for things that I'm for. I think I've made it pretty clear before, that I won't vote republican in state/national elections. Where the hell have you been?



I could never vote for a Democrat because of their party's unwavering stance on abortion and same sex marriage. The former is premeditated murder and the latter is an abomination to nature. Since you don't like the spiritual implications, though material, I'll leave them out.

Of course, I could well oppose Democrats because they are always scheming to take what I have in order to give it to someone who won't work. They want to use my money to buy their votes.

In the end, money is just money and it isn't particularly hard to accumulate for those willing to get off their butts to earn it. On the other hand, premeditated murder of an innocent and vulnerable human being by the woman carrying it and the despicable practice of homosexual marriage cannot be tolerated by any responsible person under any circumstances.
#99
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:I could never vote for a Democrat because of their party's unwavering stance on abortion and same sex marriage. The former is premeditated murder and the latter is an abomination to nature. Since you don't like the spiritual implications, though material, I'll leave them out.

Of course, I could well oppose Democrats because they are always scheming to take what I have in order to give it to someone who won't work. They want to use my money to buy their votes.

In the end, money is just money and it isn't particularly hard to accumulate for those willing to get off their butts to earn it. On the other hand, premeditated murder of an innocent and vulnerable human being by the woman carrying it and the despicable practice of homosexual marriage cannot be tolerated by any responsible person under any circumstances.


well you definitely are not going to get to heaven by voting republican
vector Wrote:well you definitely are not going to get to heaven by voting republican



So you're saying God expects His people to vote for candidates who openly campaign for the right to abortion on demand, and gay rights legislation then huh?
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vector Wrote:well you definitely are not going to get to heaven by voting republican

That is a strange statement from a Democrat. However, it isn't my right to judge you as to Heaven or Hell. Nonetheless, regardless of what I may have to answer for, murdering babies and defying natural science won't be among my transgressions.
TheRealThing Wrote:Ignoring you as much as possible.
[SIZE="3"]"You are no different than me, you vote party line, and that is it."[/SIZE] Did you just accuse me of being like you, voting party line or not?
One more time, show me anywhere where I have claimed that I don't vote straight democrat in any state or national race.
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:I could never vote for a Democrat because of their party's unwavering stance on abortion and same sex marriage. The former is premeditated murder and the latter is an abomination to nature. Since you don't like the spiritual implications, though material, I'll leave them out.

Of course, I could well oppose Democrats because they are always scheming to take what I have in order to give it to someone who won't work. They want to use my money to buy their votes.

In the end, money is just money and it isn't particularly hard to accumulate for those willing to get off their butts to earn it. On the other hand, premeditated murder of an innocent and vulnerable human being by the woman carrying it and the despicable practice of homosexual marriage cannot be tolerated by any responsible person under any circumstances.
Did god commit abortions? Do you take other abominations into your thinking on who to vote for? What part of the body do humans "breathe the breathe of life"?
Its looking worse for Grimes.
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Its looking worse for Grimes.
All 3 recent polls have her within the margin of error.
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She was neck and neck
^Every poll I've saw has always been within the margin of error, since the start.
FTR, the only debate date Mitch would agree to was a date he knew she was scheduled to be out of town. If anyone doesn't realize Mitch is scared, they aren't paying attention. The key is democrats getting out to vote. They can't stay home and hope.
A few weeks ago, (I don't remember which polls) had Grimes running 50/50 with McConnell, and there was one that had her a slight favorite.

Seems now every story I see on WKYT and CNN and Fox have Mitch as the favorite, and growing.

Grimes just doesn't have the horses to defeat him. Sad that this will be the most costly senate race in history and its not about the state at all. Its about the dems blocking the repubs from taking over and the repubs getting mitch as the majority leader.

Im not a fan of polls, but ill be honest, I don't think it will be close.
TheRealVille Wrote:FTR, the only debate date Mitch would agree to was a date he knew she was scheduled to be out of town. If anyone doesn't realize Mitch is scared, they aren't paying attention. The key is democrats getting out to vote. They can't stay home and hope.

Im not sure that's a bad move on Mitchs part.
He will without the debate, so why risk it. Voters aren't going to buy into the whole "hes scared" thing.
TheRealVille Wrote:Did god commit abortions? Do you take other abominations into your thinking on who to vote for? What part of the body do humans "breathe the breathe of life"?

Have you finally lost your mind? Your post is incoherent. Just what "abominations" do you have in mind? There is no abomination that remotely compares to the premeditated murder of an innocent human being by the woman who, by her own active participation, got pregnant and is carrying that baby. There are two abominations here- the premeditated murder of the baby and the piece of filth who commits that murder.

I'll be interested in reading about your alleged "abominations".
TheRealVille Wrote:FTR, the only debate date Mitch would agree to was a date he knew she was scheduled to be out of town. If anyone doesn't realize Mitch is scared, they aren't paying attention. The key is democrats getting out to vote. They can't stay home and hope.

What kind of "debate" did Little Lundergan want? You can be sure it was one in which she had advance knowledge of the questions or had people planted to ask pre-approved questions. She has no qualifications. She has no experience. She wouldn't know ISSA from ice cream. She is a puppet for her daddy. She isn't capable of answering questions without memorized answers. Look at her. Listen to her. She has no business running for the senate.

Put them both in a room and let them ask each other questions. That would quickly reveal her level of ignorance. Of course, daddy would never allow that.

And, I am still waiting for you or vector or someone else to name one accomplishment of Little Lundergan. You cannot do so because there are none. Apparently, she can't even point to her marriage because they keep Mr. Little Lundergan hid.
TheRealVille Wrote:FTR, the only debate date Mitch would agree to was a date he knew she was scheduled to be out of town. If anyone doesn't realize Mitch is scared, they aren't paying attention. The key is democrats getting out to vote. They can't stay home and hope.


They will come out to vote if the Medicaid buses and taxis run that day. I'm sure they will since they will bill it out to the taxpayers, another free trip.
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:Have you finally lost your mind? Your post is incoherent. Just what "abominations" do you have in mind? There is no abomination that remotely compares to the premeditated murder of an innocent human being by the woman who, by her own active participation, got pregnant and is carrying that baby. There are two abominations here- the premeditated murder of the baby and the piece of filth who commits that murder.

I'll be interested in reading about your alleged "abominations".
They were simple questions. There's other abominations in the bible. Do you consider those when voting. Does a shrimp eating candidate lose your vote? A sin is a sin in god's eyes. Again, did god do abortions on women in the bible? When does god consider a human alive? From where does a human "breath the breathe of life"?
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:What kind of "debate" did Little Lundergan want? You can be sure it was one in which she had advance knowledge of the questions or had people planted to ask pre-approved questions. She has no qualifications. She has no experience. She wouldn't know ISSA from ice cream. She is a puppet for her daddy. She isn't capable of answering questions without memorized answers. Look at her. Listen to her. She has no business running for the senate.

Put them both in a room and let them ask each other questions. That would quickly reveal her level of ignorance. Of course, daddy would never allow that.

And, I am still waiting for you or vector or someone else to name one accomplishment of Little Lundergan. You cannot do so because there are none. Apparently, she can't even point to her marriage because they keep Mr. Little Lundergan hid.
Most politicians that go to Washington have no experience before they go. Mitch didn't, and Paul didn't. You helped send Paul to Washington, with less experience that Alison. Hypocrite much? Just from the words from her website, she has done more for KY than Mitch.

Quote:Growing up in Central Kentucky, she learned the value of public service at an early age by volunteering with her family every year to distribute Thanksgiving dinners to the homeless. As a young adult, she continued to believe in the power to make a difference in the lives of others, working with the National Kidney Foundation. While working in the private sector, she provided free legal help to victims of domestic violence. Alison’s passion has always been increasing opportunity for every citizen of the Commonwealth.

As a successful business attorney in Lexington, Alison helped businesses open, expand and thrive in Kentucky, allowing them to create jobs and foster economic growth. She also worked with Kentucky institutions such as the Salvation Army, Cardinal Hill Rehabilitation Hospital and God’s Pantry Food Bank, where she serves on the Board of Directors.

As Kentucky’s Secretary of State, Alison has helped modernize and streamline government services to make sure Kentucky’s doors truly are open for small businesses. She works with industry leaders to promote Kentucky and embraces bipartisan cooperation to help expand our economy and create jobs. Her efforts, including establishing a one-stop business portal and a uniform business identification number, are helping businesses spend less time interacting with government and more time creating jobs and giving back to their communities.

Alison has also ushered in new laws that protect the voting rights of victims of domestic violence and absentee voters, maintain the integrity of the democratic process and save counties money in administering elections.

In September 2012, Alison traveled to the Middle East to meet with deployed soldiers to learn how to improve military voting procedures. Her recommendations received overwhelming bipartisan support and were signed into law in April 2013. The new law, Kentucky Heroes Voting Initiative, the first of its kind in the state, will allow military members and their families to register to vote and update their registration online, ensure that military voters have sufficient time to vote in special elections and extend existing protections to state and local elections and National Guard members.

Alison is a native of Maysville, Kentucky. She received a Bachelor of Arts in political science from Rhodes College in Memphis, Tennessee, where she served as a trustee to the Board of Directors. Alison obtained her law degree, graduating with honors, from American University, Washington College of Law, in Washington, DC.

Alison lives with her husband, Andrew, in Lexington.

http://www.alisonforky.com
Quote:Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes is Kentucky's 76th Secretary of State and only current female Constitutional Officer.

Secretary Grimes has a lifelong commitment to public service and, in particular, protecting the right to vote. She grew up canvassing Kentucky's precincts and counties to make sure all citizens had the right to vote on Election Day. Additionally, she has served as a precinct officer for the 75th Legislative District and a member of the 2008 DNC Rules Committee.

Secretary Grimes previously worked for the National Kidney Foundation, focusing on local and federal healthcare initiatives, such as the Organ and Bone Marrow Donor Leave Act. As a business attorney, Secretary Grimes has assisted companies in creating jobs in the Commonwealth. In 2010, the Fayette County Bar Association recognized Secretary Grimes as its Outstanding Young Lawyer for her demonstrated skill as an attorney and service to the court, her clients and the community.

Secretary Grimes’ professional involvement includes serving for two years as President of the Fayette County Bar Association’s Women Lawyers’ Association. Additionally, she volunteers her time and energy to such organizations as the Salvation Army, Cardinal Hill Rehabilitation Hospital and God’s Pantry Food Bank, where she serves on the Board of Directors.

In 2011, Secretary Grimes left her successful law practice to dedicate herself full time to serving the citizens of Kentucky. She visited every area of the Commonwealth, speaking with citizens in every facet of our state, including county clerks, business owners, educators, veterans and victims of domestic violence, learning about the issues that confront Kentuckians and listening to their ideas to improve our great Commonwealth. These conversations confirmed that Kentuckians share Secretary Grimes’ commitment to creating jobs, encouraging business growth, promoting civics education and increasing participation in elections. With Secretary Grimes’ tireless devotion to these common ideals and demonstrated professional skills, the Secretary of State’s office is ready to implement fresh ideas and sound solutions to help make a reality the citizens’ vision for Kentucky.

Secretary Grimes is a native of Maysville, Kentucky. She received a Bachelor of Arts in political science from Rhodes College in Memphis, Tennessee, where she served as a trustee to the Board of Directors. Secretary Grimes obtained her law degree, graduating with honors, from American University, Washington College of Law, in Washington, D.C.

Secretary Grimes currently lives with her husband, Andrew, in downtown Lexington.


http://www.sos.ky.gov/secdesk/Pages/Biography.aspx
That little self serving "biography" for Little Lundergan sounds like an application to participate in the Junior Miss competition. Everything is general. Distributed Thanksgiving baskets? What child didn't do this? Worked on behalf of the National Kidney Foundation? Who didn't do this for this and numerous other organizations? Successful attorney? She was a gopher.

Any high school student building up "brownie points" for admission to college (or the Junior Miss competition) has a similar, and probably better, resume.

And, although your boy, Obama, obviously entered the senate with no qualifications or accomplishments, that doesn't apply to most. Paul was and is a successful medical doctor. Being a law firm gopher pales in comparison.

Your post and the silly kiss up from the office of the secretary of state, if looked at by someone with knowledge of such matters, confirms that Little Lundergan is a neophyte who should be selling coat hangers at Target. She has no accomplishments. The resume of my daughter, an attorney in northern Kentucky and Cincinnati, is enormously more impressive and contains multitudes more in the way of public service and professional accomplishment and she is four years younger than Little Lundergan. Of course, my daughter doesn't go around "heralding" her accomplishments. She has no need to do so.

But, we did learn that her "husband" is named "Andy". But we still don't know of his whereabouts.
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:That little self serving "biography" for Little Lundergan sounds like an application to participate in the Junior Miss competition. Everything is general. Distributed Thanksgiving baskets? What child didn't do this? Worked on behalf of the National Kidney Foundation? Who didn't do this for this and numerous other organizations? Successful attorney? She was a gopher.

Any high school student building up "brownie points" for admission to college (or the Junior Miss competition) has a similar, and probably better, resume.

And, although your boy, Obama, obviously entered the senate with no qualifications or accomplishments, that doesn't apply to most. Paul was and is a successful medical doctor. Being a law firm gopher pales in comparison.

Your post and the silly kiss up from the office of the secretary of state, if looked at by someone with knowledge of such matters, confirms that Little Lundergan is a neophyte who should be selling coat hangers at Target.

But, we did learn that her "husband" is named "Andy". But we still don't know of his whereabouts.
How does being a medical doctor qualify him to make laws in Washington? FTR, he couldn't even pass the accepted board for his chosen profession, so him and a few more made their own board. Alison was more than a gopher, she was a lawyer, and successful at that. She worked with domestic abuse cases, among other things to help Kentuckians. She also is on the board of a christian, feeding the needy, program. She is very qualified in the voting process. She collaborated with with clerks across the state to get people to vote. And all the falsehoods you guys claim about her loyalty to Obama doesn't jive with what she says she is for. It sounds to me like Alison gets under your skin on a personal level. Tell us the real story between you two.

http://alisonforkentucky.com/issues/
Mitch votes to block anything that helps stop violence against women. Alison is a strong supporter of legislation to protect victims of domestic violence. Mitch voted against the violence against women act. He voted against the family medical leave act. He voted against equal pay for women doing the same job as a man. Mitch voted against raising the minimum wage, of which are more than just high school kids making that wage. There are many Kentuckians that live below the poverty line, mainly because of votes from Mitch, Paul, and the like.There are many families struggling, that make minimum wage, or just very little above. The list is endless on his votes against middle America, of which you apparently aren't in. All his votes that he cares about are for the rich, and corporations. I would rather have someone in Washington that favors the middle more than the rich, JMO. I understand where your thinking comes from though, you are a "have".
I guess Mitch would rather help the Chinese get jobs, and grow their economy


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Quote:LOUISVILLE – After Alison for Kentucky released a new ad earlier this week on Mitch McConnell’s telling ‘not my job’ comment, Mitch McConnell disturbingly turned to distortion when it comes to his real China record.

Today, the Grimes campaign continues on offense, releasing a new web ad highlighting Mitch McConnell’s own words when it comes to jobs. Instead of fighting for Kentucky jobs, McConnell would evidently rather work to create jobs in China. But don’t take our word for it.



Locked in the tightest re-election of his career, Mitch McConnell is disguising his real record of opposing closing the trade deficit and cracking down on currency manipulation, all the while refusing to offer a jobs plan for future. If McConnell is serious about Kentucky jobs, he should support through final passage the ‘Bring Jobs Home Act’ – much needed legislation that supports Kentucky jobs and will help grow the middle class.

Mitch McConnell is already on record saying the trade deficit with China is “not a huge problem.” And McConnell’s actual record is even worse: McConnell led a filibuster against cracking down on China’s currency manipulation, opposing members of his own party, and voted against a bipartisan bill to penalize China for devaluing its currency. In the meantime, he repeatedly voted to give special trade benefits to China.

Clearly, Mitch McConnell does not think that the growing trade deficit with China is a problem – Alison could not disagree more. Between 2001 and 2011, the U.S. trade deficit with China alone displaced or eliminated 35,700 Kentucky jobs. During the same period, this trade deficit cost the U.S. 2.1 million manufacturing jobs, more than half of all manufacturing jobs lost.

While a fair, productive relationship with China that is based on trust, respect and shared prosperity is necessary, there is a clear need for several changes to make the game fairer for Kentuckians and Americans.

If we are to level the playing field, Alison Lundergan Grimes believes that we must begin by curbing China’s currency manipulation. According to the Economic Policy Institute, addressing currency manipulation would create up to 4.7 million American jobs, add more than $470 billion to our GDP and reduce the deficit by $165 billion. Alison strongly supports – and will push aggressively for – measures to lower the threshold by which a country is in violation of currency rules and strengthen consequences for violations.
The Grimes campaign will share the below graphic today on social networks:
[Image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c56a871f4a...eee456.png]




http://alisonforkentucky.com/newsroom/pr...ord-china/
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