[Hoot Gibson]

Both you, and RIUTG are calling him a tax and spend President. I just want you to show how he is taxing and spending.

He has successfully negotiated higher taxes and more spending in a series of deals to avoid shutting down the federal government. Obama has consistently proposed higher taxes, cuts to defense spending, and no cuts to social welfare spending. Is that so hard for you to understand?

[TheRealVille]

He has successfully negotiated higher taxes and more spending in a series of deals to avoid shutting down the federal government. Obama has consistently proposed higher taxes, cuts to defense spending, and no cuts to social welfare spending. Is that so hard for you to understand?

He proposed cuts to Social Security and Medicare, as republicans wanted, and backed them right into a corner. They are turning tail and running now. Social welfare is a very small percentage of spending.



I told my wife the day he proposed his budget that he was playing their game to get them on record on those cuts.

[TheRealVille]

If the House is at his "mercy", as you say, how are they blocking so much he has tried to do in the last several years?

[Hoot Gibson]

He proposed cuts to Social Security and Medicare, as republicans wanted, and backed them right into a corner. They are turning tail and running now. Social welfare is a very small percentage of spending.



I told my wife the day he proposed his budget that he was playing their game to get them on record on those cuts.

All Obama does while he is in Washington is play political games and party at the taxpayers' expense. Neither side has proposed any real cuts. A "cut" here is a cut in the growth rate of spending. Obama has not even be able to get the Senate to vote on one of his budget proposals and Boehner is a fool to take his proposals seriously. Until Obama can submit a real budget that Senate Democrats are willing to support, Boehner should be refusing to negotiate with the White House - but he and Obama are golfing buddies.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

The problem TRV is that Obama is a pathetic excuse for a true leader using social issues to further his career at a time in our country that we need to strong leader.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Talk to the House, they are in charge of spending. Let us in the spending Obama is doing by himself.

Im not saying your wrong.
Look at ole Hal for example. Hes wasted more money than most lottery winners will ever see, and thats on a yearly basis.

By administration, i mean the entire political group as a whole.
We got to cut it off! Everything!

[TheRealVille]

Im not saying your wrong.
Look at ole Hal for example. Hes wasted more money than most lottery winners will ever see, and thats on a yearly basis.

By administration, i mean the entire political group as a whole.
We got to cut it off! Everything!

:Thumbs: I agree, but you didn't include everybody, just Obama. He can't spend by himself.


Speaking of Hal, did you vote for him?

[vundy33]

Understood, how about the liberals who push the agenda so that this kind of thing can happen without so much as peep out of government, the DOJ, or local law enforcement?

Ahh man, I'm not going to change their minds...

[RunItUpTheGut]

:Thumbs: I agree, but you didn't include everybody, just Obama. He can't spend by himself.


Speaking of Hal, did you vote for him?

Sure didnt.
I just didnt vote on the 5th congressional district race. To me there was no less evil between him and Stepp.
If i thought a democrat was a better choice for a seat, i would vote for him.
Im not strong holded to any party, although most of my beliefs follows conservatives thinkings.

Hal is just another big spending career politician that needs to go.
Obama is not innoncent in spending, but i agree its a bigger problem than just the whitehouse.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

Science has proven beyond doubt that a being has its own separate DNA from the moment of conception. Therefore, it can no longer be argued that the preborn child is not a separate being from the woman carrying it. Consequently all abortions are the willful and premeditated killing of another human being. That is fact.

Therefore, those who support "the woman's right to choose" are supporting the murder of innocent human beings. For those of you who support this abomination, you have a right to do so. However, you are supporting murder. That is fact.

If you insist on supporting the woman's "right to choose', I would recommend that that alleged "right" should encompass the right to keep her pants zipped. Once she does otherwise and another human being is conceived, she is imposing her alleged right on another human being. While she may have the right to do so as given by a liberal court, she does not have that right in the eyes of God.

For those of you who don't believe in a Supreme Being, that, of course, means nothing. However, to any of you who believe in a Supreme Being, I would hope that you stand up for the lives of our most vulnerable. You have the duty to do so- verbally and otherwise.

That is just fact. As I tell my fellow Catholic friends, if you don't like the sacred beliefs of the Catholic Church, go elsewhere. Absolutes don't change. The Church is not going to change. It cannot change. A separate life exists from the moment of conception. That cannot be legitimately argued by anyone- Christian or otherwise.

[Truth]

I watch MSNBC some mornings in order to hear the latest liberal spin. This morning, I was surprised to hear Scarborough and the other leftwingers discussing the murder trial in Philadelphia wherein an abortionist is accused of murdering seven children who were born alive and had their lives ended by the abortionist.

However, it didn't take long to ascertain that the MSNBC crowd was bemoaning the fact that the women felt forced to go to this dirty facility most likely because better equipped abortion parlors were being picketed and the women would feel threatened if they tried to enter them. So the theme of their argument was that all this was the fault of the prolifers and not the murdering women and abortionist. the victims were the women and not the babies who were slaughtered.

Amazing, disgusting, dangerous, and just the way Obama and the excrement who support such policies would want it played.

[outdoorsman43]

Because you all are the ones making the noise about it.

If "we" are making noise about it, then why the hell is there even an organization called "Planned Parenthood"?

[TheRealVille]

If "we" are making noise about it, then why the hell is there even an organization called "Planned Parenthood"?

You pro lifers(a misnomer, btw, since after birth you want nothing to do with helping them) are the ones making all the noise about abortion. If it should be overturned, you should have to adopt the unwanted kids. Planned Parenthood keeps pro lifers in check on woman's rights issues.

[TheRealVille]

Science has proven beyond doubt that a being has its own separate DNA from the moment of conception. Therefore, it can no longer be argued that the preborn child is not a separate being from the woman carrying it. Consequently all abortions are the willful and premeditated killing of another human being. That is fact.

Therefore, those who support "the woman's right to choose" are supporting the murder of innocent human beings. For those of you who support this abomination, you have a right to do so. However, you are supporting murder. That is fact.

If you insist on supporting the woman's "right to choose', I would recommend that that alleged "right" should encompass the right to keep her pants zipped. Once she does otherwise and another human being is conceived, she is imposing her alleged right on another human being. While she may have the right to do so as given by a liberal court, she does not have that right in the eyes of God.

For those of you who don't believe in a Supreme Being, that, of course, means nothing. However, to any of you who believe in a Supreme Being, I would hope that you stand up for the lives of our most vulnerable. You have the duty to do so- verbally and otherwise.

That is just fact. As I tell my fellow Catholic friends, if you don't like the sacred beliefs of the Catholic Church, go elsewhere. Absolutes don't change. The Church is not going to change. It cannot change. A separate life exists from the moment of conception. That cannot be legitimately argued by anyone- Christian or otherwise.

It doesn't matter if it's a separate person, until it's viable, and able to live without the womb. When the 3 week old fetus can live without the womb, you might have a case. Until then, nothing. What about the pre school child? Why don't you conservatives worry about taking care of kids that are born?

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

It doesn't matter if it's a separate person, until it's viable, and able to live without the womb. When the 3 week old fetus can live without the womb, you might have a case. Until then, nothing. What about the pre school child? Why don't you conservatives worry about taking care of kids that are born?

A two year old child can't live without someone to feed it so should a mother be able to kill it if she wants since it isn't viable?

[TheRealVille]

A two year old child can't live without someone to feed it so should a mother be able to kill it if she wants since it isn't viable?

You guys are the ones that say people are standing in line to adopt, so someone would feed it, right? It can live with help, so it's viable. A non-viable fetus can't live, even with help.

[TheRealVille]

Anything to get the seat. LOL

In a last gasp bit of desperation, Republicans are anonymously push-polling South Carolina District 1 to spread rumors that Elizabeth Colbert- Busch had an abortion.

Think Progress broke the story of the push-polls coming from hidden phone numbers to voters in South Carolina’s first congressional district.

Here are the questions that are being asked,



“What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if I told you she had had an abortion?”
“What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if I told you a judge held her in contempt of court at her divorce proceedings?
“What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if she had done jail time?”
“What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if I told you she was caught running up a charge account bill?”
“What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if she supported the failed stimulus plan?”
“What would you think of Elizabeth Colbert Busch if I told you unions contributed to her campaign?”

The bottom two questions are talking points that Mark Sanford repeated over and over again during their debate on Monday. The other four questions are baseless smears that Republicans are using to try to poison the well of potential moderate and conservative Colbert-Busch voters. Being that the national party is not funding Sanford, these calls are probably coming from supporters close to the Sanford campaign, or an outside group that is taking advantage of Citizens United to anonymously attack Colbert-Busch.

This isn’t the first time that push-polling has been used in this election. During the Republican primary in the district, someone was push-polling on behalf of the candidacy of state Rep. Chip Limehouse.

The push-poll is a favorite tactics of candidates with high negative approval ratings who think their only chance of winning is to decrease the positive feelings that voters may have for their opponent. Sanford has a 56% unfavorable rating, and his performance at Monday’s debate made it clear that he has no chance of winning if he has to depend on voters liking him. Instead, he has decided to drag Elizabeth Colbert-Busch through the mud.



This is the tactic of a desperate political party that knows they are losing a seat that they should easily be winning.

It seems that Republicans have found a new way to snatch defeat from the jaws of easy victory.

http://www.politicususa.com/mark-sanford...ricks.html

[TheRealThing]

[SKINNYPIG]

To all those on this site that support abortion...I wish your mothers had aborted you, at lets say 20 weeks. Any of you object? Am I a sicko for suggesting it? Hmmm.

[TheRealVille]

^Does anybody really care what you wish? Are you relevant in the scheme of things?

[SKINNYPIG]

^Does anybody really care what you wish? Are you relevant in the scheme of things?

Just as much as you are.

[TheRealVille]

Just as much as you are.

I don't make wishes, one way or the other. If a mother wants to have a baby, I'm fine with it. If a mother wants to have an abortion, I'm fine with it. I don't have a right to tell a woman what she can do with her body. That's the difference in you and me. You think you have that right.

[TheRealThing]

^ “Vive la difference!"

[TheRealVille]

To all those on this site that support abortion...I wish your mothers had aborted you, at lets say 20 weeks. Any of you object? Am I a sicko for suggesting it? Hmmm.

When a person holds another person responsible for actions that are socially or morally irresponsible, and makes negative statements about the person that have no basis in fact, their blame is nothing more than sheer vitriol with the intent to incite opposition against the blameless party.

:Thumbs:

[SKINNYPIG]

^ Did I make a negative comment about someone?

[TheRealVille]

^ Did I make a negative comment about someone?

To all those on this site that support abortion...I wish your mothers had aborted you, at lets say 20 weeks. Any of you object? Am I a sicko for suggesting it? Hmmm.

:eyeroll:

[TheRealVille]

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[outdoorsman43]

You pro lifers(a misnomer, btw, since after birth you want nothing to do with helping them) are the ones making all the noise about abortion. If it should be overturned, you should have to adopt the unwanted kids. Planned Parenthood keeps pro lifers in check on woman's rights issues.

Those "woman's rights issues" are equivalent to people not wanting to pay for their mistakes. I believe a man is just as much responsible as the woman (rape issues aside). America doesn't like when things get uncomfortable. When things get uncomfortable, America likes to just brush it aside, forget about it, and find any way to make "ethical (Liberals have created their own definition of this, especially you, RV. I know, I know. It's your right to believe a certain way.)". You have to admit though, I am right about that. Whether you believe in abortion or not, America does try to make this matter acceptable because they don't feel comfortable paying for their mistake. Why else would there be these useless groups and minority organizations out there?

[TheRealVille]

Those "woman's rights issues" are equivalent to people not wanting to pay for their mistakes. I believe a man is just as much responsible as the woman (rape issues aside). America doesn't like when things get uncomfortable. When things get uncomfortable, America likes to just brush it aside, forget about it, and find any way to make "ethical (Liberals have created their own definition of this, especially you, RV. I know, I know. It's your right to believe a certain way.)". You have to admit though, I am right about that. Whether you believe in abortion or not, America does try to make this matter acceptable because they don't feel comfortable paying for their mistake. Why else would there be these useless groups and minority organizations out there?

No, there is no mistake to pay for, unless you follow the bible. The last time I checked, the bible wasn't the rule of law for America. No man, including any here, have the right to tell a woman what decisions she can make concerning her body. And, that includes you and me. When that baby becomes viable, then we can step in and stop her from an abortion. That's fact.

[Panther Thunder]

Wanna be irresponsible and get pregnant? Sure, just kill it.

Want to be irresponsible and not work? Sure, your check will be in the mail on the 1st.

Want to be irresponsible and not find a way to get healthcare? No problem, taxpayers will foot the bill.

At no point in liberal America does a person ever have to be held accountable for anything. Unless of course, some other crazy person does something involving a gun. Then all gun-owners are accountable. All about saving the children in our schools, hell, if they are lucky enough to make it to school before being aborted.

There are plenty of hypocrisies of conservative logic, of that I am sure, but no one can act like the liberal counterparts are the standard of intelligence in the world.